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Title: Bernie Sanders and AOC basically want to ban credit cards
Post by: mountaineer on May 31, 2019, 01:41:04 pm
Bernie Sanders and AOC basically want to ban credit cards
by Tim Worstall
 | May 28, 2019 01:57 PM

Rep. Alexandria Ocsaio-Cortez, D-N.Y., and 2020 candidate Sen. Bernie Sanders, I-Vt., have apparently decided to try to ban credit cards. Sure, that's not quite what Ocasio-Cortez and Sanders actually say (they just want to stop the swindlers profiting from excessive interest charges), but that's the effect of their plan. They argue that interest rates should be capped at 15%. There's a question about exceptions, but that's what they mean. If you cap the price of something below the cost of production, then that thing vanishes. No one makes it (who desires to make a loss?) and therefore no one can have it.

It's quite similar to the Venezuelan policy on food prices. Make chicken nice and cheap with a price ceiling so no one can have any. ...

None of this is remotely controversial among those who have been bothering to pay attention. But then there's people like Sanders and Ocasio-Cortez. An example of their devotion to detail is the manner in which they talk about credit unions having had a 15% interest rate cap, including upon credit card balances, since 1980. Their knowledge of reality would be enhanced if they noted that it has actually been 18% since 1987. Knowing how the world works is a useful prelude, precursor, and even precondition to forming plans to change how it works.

But sighs about economic ignorance aren't enough here. They're calling this the Loan Shark Prevention Act, something it most definitely isn't.   ... More at Washington Examiner (https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/bernie-sanders-and-aoc-basically-want-to-ban-credit-cards)
Title: Re: Bernie Sanders and AOC basically want to ban credit cards
Post by: jmyrlefuller on May 31, 2019, 02:05:05 pm
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But sighs about economic ignorance aren't enough here. They're calling this the Loan Shark Prevention Act, something it most definitely isn't. So, people who desire credit (an awful lot of Americans, given that there's about $1 trillion of this card debt out there) can't get it legally because prices have been set so low that there are no providers. What happens next? They'll go get that credit illegally, won't they? That is, this is the Loan Sharks Generation Act.
Two words: debtor's prison. Then people will stop borrowing what they can't pay back.
Title: Re: Bernie Sanders and AOC basically want to ban credit cards
Post by: LMAO on May 31, 2019, 02:39:53 pm
From the article....

“Knowing how the world works is a useful prelude, precursor, and even precondition to forming plans to change how it works.”

This is the underlying problem with progressivism.  Feelings and the desire to do good override reasoning, facts,  mathematics, economics, and general human nature to people like Bernie Sanders or AOC

Lest we forget, AOC even admitted she would rather be “morally right” than factually correct
Title: Re: Bernie Sanders and AOC basically want to ban credit cards
Post by: austingirl on May 31, 2019, 03:47:54 pm
From the article....

“Knowing how the world works is a useful prelude, precursor, and even precondition to forming plans to change how it works.”

This is the underlying problem with progressivism.  Feelings and the desire to do good override reasoning, facts,  mathematics, economics, and general human nature to people like Bernie Sanders or AOC

Lest we forget, AOC even admitted she would rather be “morally right” than factually correct

 goopo
 goopo
Title: Re: Bernie Sanders and AOC basically want to ban credit cards
Post by: verga on June 01, 2019, 11:33:16 am
From the article....

“Knowing how the world works is a useful prelude, precursor, and even precondition to forming plans to change how it works.”

This is the underlying problem with progressivism.  Feelings and the desire to do good override reasoning, facts,  mathematics, economics, and general human nature to people like Bernie Sanders or AOC

Lest we forget, AOC even admitted she would rather be “morally right” than factually correct
QFT  :amen:
Title: Re: Bernie Sanders and AOC basically want to ban credit cards
Post by: sneakypete on June 01, 2019, 01:52:47 pm
Cool! IF either lived in an area where they would have actual Republican opponents for re-election,the Republicans could be buying radio and tv ads speaking about how Bernie and AOC want to take away their welfare cards.