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Title: Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Inductees Class of 2019 🎶
Post by: Gefn on December 13, 2018, 02:56:29 pm
Just announced. These are the the bands

The Cure
Def Leppard
Janet Jackson
Stevie Nicks
Radiohead
Roxy Music
The Zombies


Opinions? Comments?

https://www.rockhall.com/2019-inductees/ (https://www.rockhall.com/2019-inductees/)
Title: Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Inductees Class of 2019 🎶
Post by: Gefn on December 13, 2018, 02:57:56 pm
Personally, love Def Leppard. Can take or leave the other bands / singers. Though in HS I guess everyone I knew thought Stevie Nicks was hot.
Title: Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Inductees Class of 2019 🎶
Post by: Wingnut on December 13, 2018, 02:58:35 pm
Janet Jackson?  Gag me with a spoon.
Title: Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Inductees Class of 2019 🎶
Post by: GrouchoTex on December 13, 2018, 03:06:07 pm
I had hoped that the Rock and Roll hall of fame would have members that were instrumental (no pun intended) in the creation, or at least the enhancement, of the music genre's they've played.
Roxy Music, to me, is the only one on this list that fits the bill.
The rest were imitators of styles that already existed.
This would be fine, if their contributions furthered or exceeded their forerunners.
@EasyAce, @corbe, @TomSea would you like to weigh in?

Title: Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Inductees Class of 2019 🎶
Post by: Sanguine on December 13, 2018, 03:07:23 pm
Just announced. These are the the bands

The Cure
Def Leppard
Janet Jackson
Stevie Nicks
Radiohead
Roxy Music
The Zombies


Opinions? Comments?

Janet Jackson?   **nononono*
Title: Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Inductees Class of 2019 🎶
Post by: dfwgator on December 13, 2018, 03:11:19 pm
Radiohead
The Cure
Roxy Music


These definitely should be in.
Title: Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Inductees Class of 2019 🎶
Post by: Gefn on December 13, 2018, 03:13:20 pm
@To-Whose-Benefit?   
@pookie18
@Sighlass

Want to weigh in as well?
Title: Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Inductees Class of 2019 🎶
Post by: skeeter on December 13, 2018, 03:18:08 pm
@To-Whose-Benefit?   
@pookie18
@Sighlass

Want to weigh in as well?

Roxy Music definitely deserves it. So does The Cure. One of a kind originals.

Def Leppard, too, I think, but not for being the first in their style. Although I thought they were kinda cheezy back in the eighties they've since grown on me.  They popularized the whole twin lead guitars (and one armed drummer) thing and alot of their stuff is really well done.
Title: Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Inductees Class of 2019 🎶
Post by: corbe on December 13, 2018, 03:22:24 pm
   Use to have some Cure but haven't been able to locate it for awhile, probably someone borrowed it and never brought it back, the rest, meh.
Title: Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Inductees Class of 2019 🎶
Post by: godblessRonaldReagan on December 13, 2018, 03:29:12 pm
Roxy Music made it!!! One of the most original bands of all time. This is well deserved. Time to go crank up the Stranded lp!  :cool:
Title: Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Inductees Class of 2019 🎶
Post by: TomSea on December 13, 2018, 04:07:13 pm
Did Deff Leppard wear shirts like this, that was a fashion statement along with head bands.

(http://i.ebayimg.com/images/i/231479984156-0-1/s-l1000.jpg)

The selections look okay in general.
Title: Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Inductees Class of 2019 🎶
Post by: Jazzhead on December 13, 2018, 05:18:28 pm
Jethro Tull deserves to be in the Hall.   
Title: Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Inductees Class of 2019 🎶
Post by: Frank Cannon on December 13, 2018, 05:24:42 pm
Personally, love Def Leppard.

Of course you do. You live in Jersey. You probably still drive around in a '88 Iroc Camaro with the T-Tops off blasting that music.

(https://cdn.bringatrailer.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/Camaro-Lead-940x626.jpg)
Title: Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Inductees Class of 2019 🎶
Post by: pookie18 on December 13, 2018, 06:34:14 pm
@To-Whose-Benefit?   
@pookie18
@Sighlass

Want to weigh in as well?

I like some of the Zombies stuff as well as Fleetwood Mac...my son liked Def Leppard...
Title: Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Inductees Class of 2019 🎶
Post by: skeeter on December 13, 2018, 06:35:42 pm
Jethro Tull deserves to be in the Hall.

Doobie Bros too.
Title: Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Inductees Class of 2019 🎶
Post by: skeeter on December 13, 2018, 07:02:05 pm
Did Deff Leppard wear shirts like this, that was a fashion statement along with head bands.

Def Leppard did have the cheesiest music videos & at a time when music videos were unbearably cheesy.
Title: Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Inductees Class of 2019 🎶
Post by: dfwgator on December 13, 2018, 07:07:32 pm
Roxy Music made it!!! One of the most original bands of all time. This is well deserved. Time to go crank up the Stranded lp!  :cool:

Avalon is one of the best albums of the 80s.
Title: Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Inductees Class of 2019 🎶
Post by: dfwgator on December 13, 2018, 07:08:37 pm
Roxy Music made it!!! One of the most original bands of all time. This is well deserved. Time to go crank up the Stranded lp!  :cool:

Bryan Ferry is one of the few conservative rockers out there.
Title: Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Inductees Class of 2019 🎶
Post by: To-Whose-Benefit? on December 13, 2018, 07:58:44 pm
@To-Whose-Benefit?   
@pookie18
@Sighlass

Want to weigh in as well?

I'd rather chew my own arm off.

The people inducted into that ridiculous peeing match are Celebrities, not musicians.
Title: Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Inductees Class of 2019 🎶
Post by: Sighlass on December 13, 2018, 08:23:13 pm
@To-Whose-Benefit?   
@pookie18
@Sighlass

Want to weigh in as well?

Roxy probable is my fave of the list, The Cure did their part for Dark Wave music. Stevie I am not sure how much she actually composed (leave that up to others). The Zombies was a little before my time but I remember a few songs by them (figure they are a solid nomination). @pookie18  will know more about them. Def had their fans and a string of hits. Radiohead was a little after my time so I don't know a lot about them. Janet Jackson is the PC nomination that IMHO doesn't belong.

It is music and like all music is subjective to the individual... Being I am a popcorn eater and not a musician of any merit (can read music and play horribly a few instruments), I will leave it up to others.
Title: Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Inductees Class of 2019 🎶
Post by: Sighlass on December 13, 2018, 08:26:30 pm
   Use to have some Cure but haven't been able to locate it for awhile, probably someone borrowed it and never brought it back, the rest, meh.

I throw out a few Cure songs (Mp3 format) every so often, let me know if you want a ping, I will try to remember. Hate you missed my big "The Essence" post a few weeks (months) ago. @corbe They sounded almost exactly like "The Cure" just without the publicity.
Title: Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Inductees Class of 2019 🎶
Post by: Gefn on December 13, 2018, 08:41:07 pm
Of course you do. You live in Jersey. You probably still drive around in a '88 Iroc Camaro with the T-Tops off blasting that music.

(https://cdn.bringatrailer.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/Camaro-Lead-940x626.jpg)

Um, no. I grew up in a preppy town in Mercer county. People didn’t go to the shore. Girls didn’t have big hair. Everyone dressed preppy and education was paramount.
Title: Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Inductees Class of 2019 🎶
Post by: godblessRonaldReagan on December 13, 2018, 08:55:42 pm
Doobie Bros too.

And Grand Funk Railroad.
Title: Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Inductees Class of 2019 🎶
Post by: Frank Cannon on December 13, 2018, 09:36:15 pm
Um, no. I grew up in a preppy town in Mercer county. People didn’t go to the shore. Girls didn’t have big hair. Everyone dressed preppy and education was paramount.

So you grew up less Jersey than even Eastern PA? That's un-American!
Title: Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Inductees Class of 2019 🎶
Post by: TomSea on December 14, 2018, 02:09:12 am
Cleveland is a great city, the ideal for a R'n' R HOF is great but the musical snobbery of Rolling Stone got in the way.  And some of it seems like a popularity contest. Mind you, some of the choices are spot on.

I guess, Peppermint Rainbow will have to wait another year.

Sorry... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNg7arOQoVA#)

A nice cover by a girl's group called "It's my party", if I remember correctly, they are out of California. Peppermint Rainbow hailed from the DC/Baltimore area.

In the Peppermint Rainbow video, the guy with glasses is their drummer; but as one can see, this is some sort of staged presentation.

Sorry... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pC9Go3WS3Eo#)
Title: Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Inductees Class of 2019 🎶
Post by: sneakypete on December 14, 2018, 02:19:14 pm
Janet Jackson?????

WTF?
Title: Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Inductees Class of 2019 🎶
Post by: sneakypete on December 14, 2018, 02:22:01 pm
Doobie Bros too.

@skeeter

I understand they were Ozzie and Harriets favorite hard rock band!
Title: Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Inductees Class of 2019 🎶
Post by: sneakypete on December 14, 2018, 02:26:39 pm
I'd rather chew my own arm off.

The people inducted into that ridiculous peeing match are Celebrities, not musicians.

@To-Whose-Benefit?

Correct me if I am wrong,but isn't Link Wray,Steve Winwood,and most Pink Floyd musicians  members?

Granted,actual musicians with actual talent are a minority group at the tourist attraction misnamed as the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame,but there are some there that are genuine musical giants.
Title: Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Inductees Class of 2019 🎶
Post by: skeeter on December 14, 2018, 02:37:15 pm
@skeeter

I understand they were Ozzie and Harriets favorite hard rock band!

No, that was the Grass Roots.
Title: Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Inductees Class of 2019 🎶
Post by: Jazzhead on December 14, 2018, 05:29:13 pm
The folks in charge of nominations for the Hall have a blind spot with respect to so-called prog-rock of the seventies.    Jethro Tull's not in the Hall, and neither is King Crimson.  Larry Coryell, I'd think, would be worthy as well.    More generally,  the Hall seems more focused on country, blues and R&B as "roots' music with respect to rock,  ignoring those bands whose sound derives from the traditions of jazz and improvisation.   
Title: Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Inductees Class of 2019 🎶
Post by: truth_seeker on December 14, 2018, 06:32:24 pm
Dick Dale, King of the Surf Guitar

For diversity.

-Arab (Lebanese)

-Over age 80 male

Influenced  many notable guitar players

Influenced Fender guitar and amp technlogy
Title: Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Inductees Class of 2019 🎶
Post by: sneakypete on December 14, 2018, 10:16:23 pm
The folks in charge of nominations for the Hall have a blind spot with respect to so-called prog-rock of the seventies.    Jethro Tull's not in the Hall, and neither is King Crimson.  Larry Coryell, I'd think, would be worthy as well.    More generally,  the Hall seems more focused on country, blues and R&B as "roots' music with respect to rock,  ignoring those bands whose sound derives from the traditions of jazz and improvisation.   

@Jazzhead

If that is true,why isn't the Marshall Tucker Band in there?
Title: Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Inductees Class of 2019 🎶
Post by: sneakypete on December 14, 2018, 10:18:35 pm
Dick Dale, King of the Surf Guitar

For diversity.

-Arab (Lebanese)

-Over age 80 male

Influenced  many notable guitar players

Influenced Fender guitar and amp technlogy

@truth_seeker

I don't care if he was from Mars,he deserved to be one of the first.

As for him being an Arab,I'm calling BS on that one. He was an American.
Title: Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Inductees Class of 2019 🎶
Post by: skeeter on December 14, 2018, 10:29:07 pm
@truth_seeker

I don't care if he was from Mars,he deserved to be one of the first.

As for him being an Arab,I'm calling BS on that one. He was an American.

Maybe he's confusing Dick Dale with Casey Kasum. Or Ralph Nader.
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Post by: berdie on December 14, 2018, 10:32:26 pm
I'm pretty in line with every one else...Janet Jackson, for real?

As far as prolific Todd was far more productive. Although I really love John Prine, he really isn't a rocker.
Title: Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Fame 2019 🎶
Post by: truth_seeker on December 14, 2018, 10:32:53 pm
@truth_seeker

I don't care if he was from Mars,he deserved to be one of the first.

As for him being an Arab,I'm calling BS on that one. He was an American.

He was and remains an American, with ancestry from Lebanon. Wiki cites middle-eastern aspects of his music.

That period, was long before "Arab" took on any negatives. He lived, surfed, made innovative music in Ornge County California, and was a major force in the "Surf Music" craze. (bumped off the stage by the British Invasion--but not before inspiring the Beach Boys),

Over the years many guitar players cite him, as dtrong influencs.

Sorry... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZIU0RMV_II8#)

Title: Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Inductees Class of 2019 🎶
Post by: berdie on December 14, 2018, 10:34:09 pm
Avalon is one of the best albums of the 80s.



Avalon is what hooked me on Roxy Music.
Title: Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Inductees Class of 2019 🎶
Post by: skeeter on December 14, 2018, 10:39:18 pm
I'm pretty in line with every one else...Janet Jackson, for real?

As far as prolific Todd was far more productive. Although I really love John Prine, he really isn't a rocker.

I went through a Utopia phase. Still like alot of their stuff. As a musician and producer TR deserves more recognition than he's gotten.
Title: Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Fame 2019 🎶
Post by: sneakypete on December 14, 2018, 10:53:58 pm
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He was and remains an American, with ancestry from Lebanon. Wiki cites middle-eastern aspects of his music.

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Not everybody in Lebanon was or is an Arab. There were/are many,many Lebanese Christians. Probably a fair amount of non-believers,also. And even IF his family was Arabic,he was born here as an American,and obviously raised as an American.

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That period, was long before "Arab" took on any negatives. He lived, surfed, made innovative music in Ornge County California, and was a major force in the "Surf Music" craze. (bumped off the stage by the British Invasion--but not before inspiring the Beach Boys),

Over the years many guitar players cite him, as dtrong influencs.

Yeah,but he wasn't alone. Let's not forget Link Wray.
Title: Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Fame 2019 🎶
Post by: truth_seeker on December 15, 2018, 02:13:12 am

Yeah,but he wasn't alone. Let's not forget Link Wray.
Yes.

And listen to T-bone Walker.
Title: Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Inductees Class of 2019 🎶
Post by: EasyAce on December 15, 2018, 02:50:58 am
I'm all in on the Zombies and Roxy Music being elected.

The Zombies, Odessey and Oracle

Sorry... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1eHHPkDm_2M#)


Sorry... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5X6BifSQ9U#)

Sorry... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SSjTb3fKpmU#)

Sorry... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XUhYAcgmTtU#)

Sorry... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GhCOqj4Pyb8#)

Sorry... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-frMKuom3r8#)
Title: Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Fame 2019 🎶
Post by: EasyAce on December 15, 2018, 02:53:54 am
Yes.

And listen to T-bone Walker.
@truth_seeker

I listen to T-Bone Walker regularly . . .

(https://cps-static.rovicorp.com/3/JPG_500/MI0001/625/MI0001625894.jpg?partner=allrovi.com)

(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/71-ziuqgaEL._SX522_.jpg)
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Post by: sneakypete on December 15, 2018, 10:43:20 am
I'm all in on the Zombies and Roxy Music being elected.



@EasyAce

Me,too. Especially Roxy Music,
Title: Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Fame 2019 🎶
Post by: GrouchoTex on December 15, 2018, 04:48:02 pm
@truth_seeker

I listen to T-Bone Walker regularly . . .

(https://cps-static.rovicorp.com/3/JPG_500/MI0001/625/MI0001625894.jpg?partner=allrovi.com)

(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/71-ziuqgaEL._SX522_.jpg)

@EasyAce
I have the 2nd one on CD.
The bands I've been in Played Stormy Monday, T-Bone Shuffle, and  Mean Old World.
Mean Old world was fun, as the solos were in the beginning of the song, before the verses.
He and Charlie Christian both very instrumental (again, no pun intended) on the future of how the guitar is played.
Title: Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Fame 2019 🎶
Post by: EasyAce on December 15, 2018, 05:42:29 pm
@EasyAce
I have the 2nd one on CD.
The bands I've been in Played Stormy Monday, T-Bone Shuffle, and  Mean Old World.
Mean Old world was fun, as the solos were in the beginning of the song, before the verses.
He and Charlie Christian both very instrumental (again, no pun intended) on the future of how the guitar is played.
@GrouchoTex
I've done "Stormy Monday" and his much later number "Glamour Girl" myself.

This, however, may be the most unique cover of "Stormy Monday" I've ever heard . . .

Sorry... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0RsXs49K3lU#)

(It was recorded live during their appearance at the 1970 Atlanta Pop Festival.)
Title: Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Inductees Class of 2019 🎶
Post by: jmyrlefuller on December 18, 2018, 02:58:58 am
Janet Jackson?   **nononono*
They always feel the need to put a token person (woman and/or POC) in that isn't rock or roll—see the repeated efforts to force LL Cool J into the Hall.

The one nominee I'm disappointed not making it in was Todd Rundgren, not only as a solo musician but as a major contributor to others' records (e.g. Meat Loaf) as well.
Title: Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Inductees Class of 2019 🎶
Post by: jmyrlefuller on December 18, 2018, 03:03:05 am
The folks in charge of nominations for the Hall have a blind spot with respect to so-called prog-rock of the seventies.    Jethro Tull's not in the Hall, and neither is King Crimson.  Larry Coryell, I'd think, would be worthy as well.    More generally,  the Hall seems more focused on country, blues and R&B as "roots' music with respect to rock,  ignoring those bands whose sound derives from the traditions of jazz and improvisation.   
Rock critics have always hated prog-rock yet loved punk. To them, virtuosity is pretentious, while bad music made from nothing but pure rage is authentic and laudable.

Ironically, Jethro Tull agreed (Thick as a Brick).
Title: Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Inductees Class of 2019 🎶
Post by: Axeslinger on December 18, 2018, 03:12:57 am
They always feel the need to put a token person (woman and/or POC) in that isn't rock or roll—see the repeated efforts to force LL Cool J into the Hall.

The one nominee I'm disappointed not making it in was Todd Rundgren, not only as a solo musician but as a major contributor to others' records (e.g. Meat Loaf) as well.

Meanwhile a band like Styx is snubbed.

SMH