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A running thread for deaths in calendar year 2020.
Previous threads:
- 2019 (http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,346038.0.html)
- 2018 (http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,297509.msg1559758.html)
- 2017 (http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,241405.msg1179710.html)
- 2016 (http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,190145.msg758152.html)
- 2015 (http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,158147.msg634574.html)
- 2014 (http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,138392.msg566580.html)
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Thank you @jmyrlefuller for setting up and maintaining/monitoring these yearly Obituaries threads. :patriot:
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Yes, Thank You @jmyrlefuller
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Thank you much for this, Myrle!
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Thanks to @jmyrlefuller and everyone else who regularly post updates to this thread.
I think it's a sign of my advancing age that the Obituaries thread is the one thread that I read most regularly.
*hmmmm*
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Thank you @jmyrlefuller for setting up and maintaining/monitoring these yearly Obituaries threads. :patriot:
Thank you @jmyrlefuller
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Former NBA Commissioner David Stern Dies at 77, Weeks After Emergency Brain Surgery
Published 4 mins ago • Updated 1 min ago
Former NBA Commissioner David Stern has died three weeks after he was hospitalized due to a “sudden brain hemorrhage,†according to the NBA. He was 77.
Stern was at a Manhattan restaurant when he collapsed on Dec. 12. The league said that he suffered a hemorrhage "for which he underwent emergency surgery. Our thoughts and prayers are with his family.â€
Stern served exactly 30 years as the NBA's longest-tenured commissioner before Adam Silver replaced him on Feb. 1, 2014. Stern has remained affiliated with the league with the title of commissioner emeritus and has remained active in his other interests, such as sports technology.
https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/sports/former-nba-commissioner-david-stern-dies-at-77/2241128/ (https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/sports/former-nba-commissioner-david-stern-dies-at-77/2241128/)
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Former NBA Commissioner David Stern Dies at 77, Weeks After Emergency Brain Surgery
Published 4 mins ago • Updated 1 min ago
Former NBA Commissioner David Stern has died three weeks after he was hospitalized due to a “sudden brain hemorrhage,†according to the NBA. He was 77.
Stern was at a Manhattan restaurant when he collapsed on Dec. 12. The league said that he suffered a hemorrhage "for which he underwent emergency surgery. Our thoughts and prayers are with his family.â€
Stern served exactly 30 years as the NBA's longest-tenured commissioner before Adam Silver replaced him on Feb. 1, 2014. Stern has remained affiliated with the league with the title of commissioner emeritus and has remained active in his other interests, such as sports technology.
https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/sports/former-nba-commissioner-david-stern-dies-at-77/2241128/ (https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/sports/former-nba-commissioner-david-stern-dies-at-77/2241128/)
First obit of the year. RIP
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BKMK
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Stern was as much an NBA icon as Magic, Bird and Jordan.
Arguably the greatest Commissioner of any sport, ever.
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Don Larsen, who pitched only perfect game in World Series history, dies at 90 (https://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/yankees/ny-don-larsen-obituary-20200102-i22va4zqobadbe77lmn4hsrfmy-story.html)
By Bill Madden
New York Daily News
By his own admission, Don Larsen was a most imperfect fellow and therefore about the unlikeliest man to ever pitch the only perfect game in World Series history. But pitch it he did, on October 8, 1956, a 97-pitch, 2-0 gem in Game 5 that gave the Yankees a 3-2 lead in the Series against the Dodgers and set them up for winning their sixth world championship in eight years under manager Casey Stengel.
Larsen, 90, died Wednesday in hospice in Hayden, Idaho, of esophageal cancer, a party guy to the end who achieved baseball immortality that one sun-splashed autumn afternoon at Yankee Stadium despite an otherwise mediocre 81-91 pitching career with seven different major league teams from 1953-67 . . .
RIP Mr. Larsen. Yogi's waiting up there for you to leap into his arms again . . .
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/d/d8/PerfectLarsen.jpg/220px-PerfectLarsen.jpg)
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Former Bengals, Bucs coach Sam Wyche dies at 74
Posted by Charean Williams on January 2, 2020, 3:59 PM EST
He led the Bengals to the Super Bowl in 1988 but perhaps is best known for taking the field microphone during a game against the Seahawks in 1989. With Bengals fans pelting the field with snowballs after an official’s call went against the home team, Wyche yelled over the PA system, “Will the next person that sees anybody throw anything onto the field, point them out, and get them out of here. You don’t live in Cleveland! You live in Cincinnati!â€
The line is repeated often in Cincinnati.
Wyche died Thursday at his home in Pickens, South Carolina, after a short battle with metastatic melanoma, Peter King of NBC reports. Wyche was 74.
Read more at: https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2020/01/02/former-bengals-bucs-head-coach-sam-wyche-dies-at-74/
Does this make 3 for 3 passings from the world of sport! I remember Sam...
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Billionaire Businessman Ronald Burkle's Son Andrew Found Dead at 27 in His Beverly Hills Home
The producer will be remembered as a "young man full of life," his family tells PEOPLE
By Robyn Merrett, Ashley Boucher, Chelsea White and Melody Chiu
January 07, 2020 02:10 AMAndrew Burkle — the son of billionaire businessman Ronald Burkle — has been found dead in his Beverly Hills home, PEOPLE confirms.
Andrew was confirmed dead on Monday by authorities and will be remembered as a “young man full of life,†his family said in a statement to PEOPLE. He was 27.
“It is with the deepest regret and sadness that we announce the death of Andrew C. Burkle on January 6, 2020 in Beverly Hills, California,†his bereaved family said. “He is deeply loved by his family and friends and will be greatly missed.â€
Andrew was known as a young man full of life and entrepreneurial energy. Everyone he met commented on his humble demeanor and hard work,†the statement continues. ...
People magazine (https://people.com/human-interest/billionaire-ronald-burkle-son-andrew-found-dead-in-beverly-hills-home/)
Related?What did Ron Burkle get out of his relationship with the Clintons? An education, he says
By Evan Halper Staff Writer
Jan. 7, 2016
1:44 PM
Befriending Bill and Hillary Clinton — and giving them access to his private 757 jet — gave Ron Burkle more insight into world affairs than any graduate program might have.
At one point the billionaire businessman was on half of all the trips the former president made abroad. Burkle says he met 47 world leaders in 47 countries. There was a private meeting Clinton held with Nelson Mandela that went on for hours; Burkle was in the room. ...
Burkle talked about the experiences during an expansive interview with the Los Angeles Times this week, in which he also expressed ambivalence about Hillary Clinton’s candidacy, reflected on his now-dissolved $15-million business partnership with Bill Clinton and explained why he is cohosting a fundraiser for Republican presidential candidate John Kasich. ...
Burkle’s ambivalence about Hillary Clinton’s candidacy is puzzling to other Democratic power players.
The Clintons are well known to value loyalty. And Burkle may ultimately test whether he can step back in the inner circle after stepping so far out of it. ...
Just sayin'. :pondering: Full story at L.A. Times (https://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-clinton-burkle-20160107-story.html)
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Oh here we go. The young man isn't even cold yet and the conspiracy theories have already started.
So we know about the old man was a partner of the Clintons, but what do we know about the son? Did he have drug/alcohol addictions? Did he have a history of depression or other mental illness?
This conspiracy chit is getting old.
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It was a joke, kind of in the "Epstein didn't kill himself" vein.
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It was a joke, kind of in the "Epstein didn't kill himself" vein.
@mountaineer
Not unhappy with you, but it seems that the death of anyone with even the most remote connection to the Clintons is the subject of the "Clintons killed him" conspiracy theories. These days, even dead people who never met the Clintons are being added to the Clintons' supposed body counts.
Sadly, those who subscribe to these conspiracy theories are serious about them. Epstein's death is but one example.
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@mountaineer
Not unhappy with you, but it seems that the death of anyone with even the most remote connection to the Clintons is the subject of the "Clintons killed him" conspiracy theories. These days, even dead people who never met the Clintons are being added to the Clintons' supposed body counts.
Sadly, those who subscribe to these conspiracy theories are serious about them. Epstein's death is but one example.
Conspiracy theories are an attempt to explain patterns or events observed. Sure seems like a lot of people who have been associated with the Clintons end up dead, and many under readily questionable or unusual circumstances.
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Oh, she is an American, anyway,
Elizabeth Wurtzel: Prozac Nation author dies aged 52
Elizabeth Wurtzel, author of the best-selling 1994 memoir Prozac Nation which detailed her struggles with depression and addiction, has died aged 52.
Her husband, Jim Freed, told US media she died at a New York hospital after a long battle with cancer.
Published when she was in her 20s, Prozac Nation divided critics. Some praised Ms Wurtzel for her candor while others said she was self-absorbed.
More: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-51024913 (https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-51024913)
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Sounds like an interesting book to me. Rest in peace, sad, she battled cancer.
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Rip Ms. Wurtzel.
Your book was in my library.
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That prozac nation sounds like a good book. I know nobody here, has probably gone through real depression.
I've already heard, this fellow was a Cuban American:
Silvio Horta, 45, ‘Ugly Betty’ creator, found dead
By Stuart Oldham, Variety
Silvio Horta, creator of ABC’s popular series “Ugly Betty,†was found dead in a Miami motel room on Tuesday. He was 45.
A representative for Horta confirmed his death, but declined to comment on the nature of it.
The American version of “Ugly Betty,†which starred America Ferrera, ran for four seasons on ABC from 2006 to 2010 and was adapted from the hit Colombian telenovela “Yo soy Betty, la fea.†Horta served as showrunner and head writer on the comedy-drama.
More at: https://www.chicagotribune.com/entertainment/ct-ent-silvio-horta-ugly-betty-dead-20200108-73dkwnywknbw7pq7kz7cgaile4-story.html (https://www.chicagotribune.com/entertainment/ct-ent-silvio-horta-ugly-betty-dead-20200108-73dkwnywknbw7pq7kz7cgaile4-story.html)
That show was a rage.
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That prozac nation sounds like a good book. I know nobody here, has probably gone through real depression.
I've already heard, this fellow was a Cuban American:
That show was a rage.
@TomSea I’m going to respectfully disagree. Just because no one here has talked about it, doesn’t mean they suffer from Churchill’s black dog.
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@TomSea I’m going to respectfully disagree. Just because no one here has talked about it, doesn’t mean they suffer from Churchill’s black dog.
I agree.
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@TomSea I’m going to respectfully disagree. Just because no one here has talked about it, doesn’t mean they suffer from Churchill’s black dog.
We all have our low points. Some lower than others. Never give up. There is a light at the end of the tunnel (see avatar).
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That prozac nation sounds like a good book. I know nobody here, has probably gone through real depression.
@TomSea
Look before you leap---the pool may be empty, and the headache on landing is murder.
I didn't get to read Prozac Nation (RIP Ms. Wurtzel) but I've dealt with depression most of my life. And it wasn't until I came to live in Las Vegas that I finally got the right diagnosis for my condition, an anxiety disorder with a degree of clinical depression (I was mis-diagnosed as full-blown manic depressive long enough ago, and I'm pretty certain that a couple of the medications I was prescribed---for the record, Prozac wasn't one of them---probably screwed me and my chemistry up even more than I was already screwed up) and have since been on a very good program of vitamin therapy. My only regret is that I didn't get the right diagnosis far, far sooner, I might not have screwed up as much of my life as I did or hurt as many people I loved as I did. I've been in a better place the last twelve years than I'd ever been before as far as that goes
It's not easy to talk about. It never really has been. And I suspect that there are a few among us here who deal with one or another degree of depression, have done so for long enough, and simply choose not to discuss it on the forum even in those couple of outlets where we're encouraged to do so. We don't wear sandwich boards saying, "Hi! I'm a clinical depressive!" and we don't advertise our conditions otherwise, we live and deal with them each in our own ways. And for myself, though I'm sure anyone else here dealing with anything similar, I thank God for every day I live and for those who remain in my life.
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We all have our low points. Some lower than others. Never give up. There is a light at the end of the tunnel (see avatar).
@Smokin Joe
I have to admit when I first saw your avatar I thought it was a subway tunnel with a train whistling in toward the next station!
(Sorry---I grew up in and around New York City and I'll always have sweet memories of how much fun I had on the subways in those years, whether it was catching one off the Long Island Rail Road terminal in Manhattan to head up back to the Bronx to visit my grandparents or roaming around the city hunting things like a couple of museums, a couple of book and music stores I loved, the Fillmore East and one or two jazz clubs, and Shea Stadium . . . )
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@Smokin Joe
I have to admit when I first saw your avatar I thought it was a subway tunnel with a train whistling in toward the next station!
(Sorry---I grew up in and around New York City and I'll always have sweet memories of how much fun I had on the subways in those years, whether it was catching one off the Long Island Rail Road terminal in Manhattan to head up back to the Bronx to visit my grandparents or roaming around the city hunting things like a couple of museums, a couple of book and music stores I loved, the Fillmore East and one or two jazz clubs, and Shea Stadium . . . )
Although cities aren't my bag, to each their own!
Actually, it is sunlight shining in the west end of the Allegheny Tunnel on I-70 in PA, image taken by my granddaughter.
I'm glad it reminded you of happy times, though, wherever you were!
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That prozac nation sounds like a good book. I know nobody here, has probably gone through real depression.
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@TomSea
I went through a major depression when my Dad died. At the time, I saw a therapist, who prescribed Prozac. Prozac helped at first -- evened me out -- but eventually, it just made me sleepy and no longer helped the depression. I ditched the meds and changed to a grief counselor. That gal was wonderful and helped me a lot. I didn't need meds.
I still go through a seasonal downer every winter, but I solved that by heading to Florida twice during the season. happy77
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@TomSea
I went through a major depression when my Dad died. At the time, I saw a therapist, who prescribed Prozac. Prozac helped at first -- evened me out -- but eventually, it just made me sleepy and no longer helped the depression. I ditched the meds and changed to a grief counselor. That gal was wonderful and helped me a lot. I didn't need meds.
I still go through a seasonal downer every winter, but I solved that by heading to Florida twice during the season. happy77
I fixed it 40 years ago when I moved to Phoenix. happy77
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I fixed it 40 years ago when I moved to Phoenix. happy77
Smart fellow. I keep telling my friends and family that if I had the dough, I would get a condo in Clearwater Beach and become a part-time resident for several months out of the year. Alas, I'm not wealthy, don't know any rich person who will leave me a bundle and I suck at playing the lottery. So I stay in western PA. LOL
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Buck Henry, screenwriter of The Graduate, Get Smart co-creator, and SNL legend, is dead at 89
Over a long and storied career in TV and film, Buck Henry co-created the TV show Get Smart with Mel Brooks, wrote the screenplay for The Graduate (1967), played Tina Fey's father on 30 Rock, and hosted Saturday Night Live 10 times in its first five seasons, playing several memorable roles. Henry died Wednesday at age 89. His wife, Irene Ramp, said the cause was a heart attack.
Henry, born Henry Zuckerman in 1930, was the son of a prominent stockbroker and silent film star Ruth Taylor. The Graduate, directed by his childhood friend Mike Nichols, was Henry's first screenwriting job. It got him the first of two Oscar nominations, followed by a directing nod for the 1978 Warren Beatty movie Heaven Can Wait. Henry also wrote scripts for 1968's Candy, Nichols' 1970 adaptation of Catch-22, the hit Barbra Streisand comedy What's Up, Doc? (1972), and 1995's To Die For, starring Nicole Kidman. He won a writing Emmy in 1967 for a double episode of Get Smart.
Nichols wrote himself small roles in many of his movies and often played wry straight men on TV, as in his recurring SNL role alongside John Belushi's Samurai character.
https://theweek.com/speedreads/888452/buck-henry-screenwriter-graduate-smart-cocreator-snl-legend-dead-89
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Buck Henry did some great stuff. Rest in peace.
The Cone of Silence:
Error 404 (Not Found)!!1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWtPPWi6OMQ#)
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Buck Henry, screenwriter of The Graduate, Get Smart co-creator, and SNL legend, is dead at 89
RIP he was a genius.
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Edd Byrnes
1950s teen idol dies at 87
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/67/Edd_Byrnes_1973.JPG/220px-Edd_Byrnes_1973.JPG)
Byrnes was best known for playing the role of hipster investigator Gerald "Kookie" Kookson, who always had the word on the street, on the hit detective drama 77 Sunset Strip. His career took a nosedive after that as Byrne was typecast; he kept afloat through working on spaghetti westerns in the 1960s. In 1974, Byrnes's drunkenness and inability to remember his vowels cost him the hosting gig for Wheel of Fortune. His last major role came as Vince Fontaine, the fast-talking DJ from Grease, when it was made into a film (the musical had written the role as a 19-year-old but, eager to exploit 50s nostalgia, was written as an older character to allow old 50s stars like Byrnes to be cast). Minor film and television roles dotted the rest of his career.
Obituary from The Hollywood Reporter (https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/edd-byrnes-dead-kookie-77-938511)
Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edd_Byrnes)
IMDB (https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0126318/)
Error 404 (Not Found)!!1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_x5wmlf4A_g#)
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"Kookie, Kookie, Lend Me Your Comb."
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Edd Byrnes, the man who introduced "hair power" to television, got the teenyboppers of the time hooked but good, and helped put ABC on the map as a television network (along with such stuff as Maverick and The Donna Reed Show) after spending most of the 1950s in search of an audience that mostly preferred copping Zs to ABC.
RIP Kookie.
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Edd Byrnes with Beaver Cleaver's favourite teacher from a 77 Sunset Strip episode . . .
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"Kookie, Kookie, Lend Me Your Comb."
Error 404 (Not Found)!!1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNR1y3ZLqt8#)
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Rush drummer Neil Peart dead at 67
Brain cancer. **nononono*
https://www.cbc.ca/news/entertainment/neil-peart-obit-1.5422806?fbclid=IwAR3P01SdgT5X3ufGwB0xqIGCPEm25FZ6ZjJoO8dJ5FqQg5lx-MA9eVTAGEk (https://www.cbc.ca/news/entertainment/neil-peart-obit-1.5422806?fbclid=IwAR3P01SdgT5X3ufGwB0xqIGCPEm25FZ6ZjJoO8dJ5FqQg5lx-MA9eVTAGEk)
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Rush drummer Neil Peart dead at 67
Brain cancer. **nononono*
https://www.cbc.ca/news/entertainment/neil-peart-obit-1.5422806?fbclid=IwAR3P01SdgT5X3ufGwB0xqIGCPEm25FZ6ZjJoO8dJ5FqQg5lx-MA9eVTAGEk (https://www.cbc.ca/news/entertainment/neil-peart-obit-1.5422806?fbclid=IwAR3P01SdgT5X3ufGwB0xqIGCPEm25FZ6ZjJoO8dJ5FqQg5lx-MA9eVTAGEk)
Oh s**t. 888cryingkitty 888cryingkitty
Rest In Peace.
@EasyAce
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8888crybaby
Rest in peace. Mr. Peart.
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Rush drummer Neil Peart dead at 67
Brain cancer. **nononono*
https://www.cbc.ca/news/entertainment/neil-peart-obit-1.5422806?fbclid=IwAR3P01SdgT5X3ufGwB0xqIGCPEm25FZ6ZjJoO8dJ5FqQg5lx-MA9eVTAGEk (https://www.cbc.ca/news/entertainment/neil-peart-obit-1.5422806?fbclid=IwAR3P01SdgT5X3ufGwB0xqIGCPEm25FZ6ZjJoO8dJ5FqQg5lx-MA9eVTAGEk)
Oh man this is an unpleasant surprise. RIP to an awesome musician and tragic figure.
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Rush drummer Neil Peart dead at 67
Brain cancer. **nononono*
https://www.cbc.ca/news/entertainment/neil-peart-obit-1.5422806?fbclid=IwAR3P01SdgT5X3ufGwB0xqIGCPEm25FZ6ZjJoO8dJ5FqQg5lx-MA9eVTAGEk (https://www.cbc.ca/news/entertainment/neil-peart-obit-1.5422806?fbclid=IwAR3P01SdgT5X3ufGwB0xqIGCPEm25FZ6ZjJoO8dJ5FqQg5lx-MA9eVTAGEk)
This is the most awful of news. Rush has forvever been my favorite band.... 3 Rock deaths have blindsided me....
Lennon in '80, Tom Petty a few years ago, and now this.
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This is the most awful of news. Rush has forvever been my favorite band.... 3 Rock deaths have blindsided me....
Lennon in '80, Tom Petty a few years ago, and now this.
@catfish1957
Did you read my mind? Exact feelings, but I think Lennon was the most shocking because of how he died.
Putting on my “Vapor Trails†cd. 888cryingkitty
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Rush drummer Neil Peart dead at 67
Brain cancer. **nononono*
https://www.cbc.ca/news/entertainment/neil-peart-obit-1.5422806?fbclid=IwAR3P01SdgT5X3ufGwB0xqIGCPEm25FZ6ZjJoO8dJ5FqQg5lx-MA9eVTAGEk (https://www.cbc.ca/news/entertainment/neil-peart-obit-1.5422806?fbclid=IwAR3P01SdgT5X3ufGwB0xqIGCPEm25FZ6ZjJoO8dJ5FqQg5lx-MA9eVTAGEk)
This one hurts.
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@catfish1957
Did you read my mind? Exact feelings, but I think Lennon was the most shocking because of how he died.
This clip sums up alot of Rush fans.
Error 404 (Not Found)!!1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iq3yjfoorsU#)
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@catfish1957
Did you read my mind? Exact feelings, but I think Lennon was the most shocking because of how he died.
Putting on my “Vapor Trails†cd. 888cryingkitty
@Gefn
A sad number of music legends have been murdered. Including but not limited to:
Robert Johnson---blues legend, poisoned, 1938 I believe.
Chanzo Pozo---percussionist who helped bring Afro-Latin rhythms to jazz with Dizzy Gillespie in the 1940s.
John Lee Williamson (aka Sonny Boy Williamson I)---shot to death, 1948.
Scrapper Blackwell---bluesman, shot to death, 1962.
Sam Cooke---murdered with an ice pick, 1964.
Bobby Fuller ("I Fought the Law")---found dead and assumed murdered, crime never solved, 1964.
James (Shep) Sheppard, Shep & the Limelites ("Daddy's Home")---murdered in 1970; his body was left in his car on the Long Island Expressway after he was attacked during a robbery; like Fuller, his murder remains unsolved otherwise.
King Curtis---R&B saxophonist; stabbed to death, 1971.
Lee Morgan---jazz trumpeter ("The Sidewinder"); shot to death, 1972.
Al Jackson, Jr.---R&B drummer (anchored Booker T. & the MGs and boatloads of sessions for Stax/Volt and Hi Records in Memphis); stabbed to death but the killer was never found.
Felix Pappalardi---producer (most famously for Cream); bassist-composer (Mountain); shot to death in 1983.
Marvin Gaye---R&B giant; shot to death, 1983.
Jaco Pastorius---jazz bassist; beaten to death, 1987.
Tupac Shakur---rapper; shot to death, 1996.
Biggie Smalls (The Notorious B.I.G.)---rapper; shot to death, 1997.
Jaki Byard---jazz pianist; shot to death, unsolved, 1999.
Dimebag Darrell (Darrell Abbott)---guitarist/songwriter, Pantera/Damageplan; shot to death on stage, 2004.
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Peart and Rush were very intwined with my teenage and college years.
One of, if not the best drummer that ever lived.
RIP, and thanks for all the memories.
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This is song that introduced me to Rush way back in 1978. And I have a big fan ever since. Neal Peart was not only one of the greatest drummers of all time but also a brilliant lyricist.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_D0wkLyCXE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_D0wkLyCXE#)
There is unrest in the forest
There is trouble with the trees
For the maples want more sunlight
And the oaks ignore their pleas
The trouble with the maples
And they're quite convinced they're right
They say the oaks are just too lofty
And they grab up all the light
But the oaks can't help their feelings
If they like the way they're made
And they wonder why the maples
Can't be happy in their shade?
There is trouble in the forest
And the creatures all have fled
As the maples scream 'oppression!'
And the oaks, just shake their heads
So the maples formed a union
And demanded equal rights
'The oaks are just too greedy
We will make them give us light'
Now there's no more oak oppression
For they passed a noble law
And the trees are all kept equal
By hatchet,
Axe,
And saw
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Moderate, you can see, he met with Netanyahu, Netanyahu was invited to Oman.
Error 404 (Not Found)!!1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5F8xRyCh3I#)
The Sultan of Oman, Qaboos bin Said al Said, has died, state media says
Saturday 11 January 2020 00:31, UK
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The Sultan of Oman has died
The Sultan of Oman, Qaboos bin Said al Said, has died, according to the country's state media.
The 79-year-old was the longest serving leader in the Middle East, having ruled the country since 1970 after taking over the leadership in a peaceful coup.
There had been concern over his health in recent weeks, and had reportedly been in Belgium for treatment.
State media said that Sultan Qaboos passed away early on Saturday morning.
Continued at: https://news.sky.com/story/the-sultan-of-oman-qaboos-bin-said-al-said-has-died-state-media-says-11905873 (https://news.sky.com/story/the-sultan-of-oman-qaboos-bin-said-al-said-has-died-state-media-says-11905873)
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Peart and Rush were very intwined with my teenage and college years.
One of, if not the best drummer that ever lived.
RIP, and thanks for all the memories.
We've lost two the best drummers of all time in the past few months: Neil and Ginger Baker.
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We've lost two the best drummers of all time in the past few months: Neil and Ginger Baker.
Another drum-great, Steve Gadd is 74, though he is still active.
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Peart and Rush were very intwined with my teenage and college years.
One of, if not the best drummer that ever lived.
Peart was the best ever, of all time. Sadness. I was a big Rush fan early on, too. Their '82 Jackson, MS concert was phenomenal. Played La Villa Strangiata as an encore.
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Peart was the best ever, of all time. Sadness. I was a big Rush fan early on, too. Their '82 Jackson, MS concert was phenomenal. Played La Villa Strangiata as an encore.
@Hoodat
Same here. Was a fan even back in about '74/'75 when they were getting air play on KAAY Beaker Street in Little Rock. Remember that late night station? Peart's death made me go back search for my ticket to sadly the one only time I saw them. And I did find the ticket stub..... It was on April 5, 1982 in Lake Charles, Louisana. So we basically probably saw the same tour.
Always planned but never got around to seeing them again in Houston, Now, I never will. Know I am still badly bummed over this 3 days now. Geez, they were a phenomenol band. What a loss.
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For you, @catfish1957
In the End
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stBOhNxLrbM#)
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And it is "Sir" Roger Scruton and even a number of Americans have given tribute to him, a "conservative" and Knighted also.
Roger Scruton, advocate for aesthetic beauty and conservative British philosopher, dead at 75
by Allison Elyse Gualtieri | January 12, 2020 05:29 PM
Roger Scruton, a conservative intellectual and British philosopher, has died at the age of 75.
Scruton, who had announced last year he was suffering from cancer, was a prolific author, writing more than 50 nonfiction books on topics ranging from aesthetics and politics to wine and music, as well as novels and operas.
An announcement posted to his website Sunday said that he died peacefully after his six-month battle.
Read more at: https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/roger-scruton-advocate-for-aesthetic-beauty-and-conservative-british-philosopher-dead-at-75 (https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/roger-scruton-advocate-for-aesthetic-beauty-and-conservative-british-philosopher-dead-at-75)
His website: https://roger-scruton.com/ (https://roger-scruton.com/)
wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_Scruton (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_Scruton)
Rest in peace, I get it that he is a "conservative" but I'm not positive if he is in the way many of us see things...I'd really have to look into it, maybe Maggie liked him. He got knighted by the Queen.
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Liang Jun: China's first female tractor driver, and national icon, dies
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She was immortalised in China's one yuan banknotes
A woman who became China's first female tractor driver, and eventually a national icon, has died at the age of 90.
In 1948, Liang Jun became the only female in China to take up the job, when she enrolled in a training class for tractor drivers.
More than a decade later, an image of her proudly driving a tractor was featured on China's one-yuan banknote.
Read more at: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-51116035 (https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-51116035)
A bit interesting though, it was for the Communists.
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A bit interesting though, it was for the Communists.
Very interesting, and a pretty bank note.
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@TomSea I’m going to respectfully disagree. Just because no one here has talked about it, doesn’t mean they suffer from Churchill’s black dog.
@Gefn @TomSea
EXACTLY! How can ANY thinking person NOT go through bouts of depression? Most of us are just fortunate enough to understand we don't need to obsess over it,and that there is hope on the other side.
In FACT,I will even go so far as to make the claim that anybody who has never had a bout of depression has a IQ so low they aren't aware such a thing exists.
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Edd Byrnes, the man who introduced "hair power" to television, got the teenyboppers of the time hooked but good, and helped put ABC on the map as a television network (along with such stuff as Maverick and The Donna Reed Show) after spending most of the 1950s in search of an audience that mostly preferred copping Zs to ABC.
RIP Kookie.
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/22/23/30/222330c912fe0c7261b914a7fd8722f1.jpg)
@EasyAce
Am I the only one that watched that show to get a look at the T-Bucket with the Cadillac engine he drove? AFAIAC,that 50's hot rod was the star of the show,and the only time I paid any attention to the show was when it was seen on camera.
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In 1948, Liang Jun became the only female in China to take up the job, when she enrolled in a training class for tractor drivers.
Jesus! How freaking stupid did you have to be to have to take classes to figure out how to drive a 1948 model tractor?
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Jesus! How freaking stupid did you have to be to have to take classes to figure out how to drive a 1948 model tractor?
You have to remember, it was a Chinese tractor. Also, maybe the folks in the rural areas weren't exposed to some of the more modern technology.
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You have to remember, it was a Chinese tractor. Also, maybe the folks in the rural areas weren't exposed to some of the more modern technology.
@TomSea
It's more related to the Chinese mindset than anything else.
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@EasyAce
Am I the only one that watched that show to get a look at the T-Bucket with the Cadillac engine he drove? AFAIAC,that 50's hot rod was the star of the show,and the only time I paid any attention to the show was when it was seen on camera.
@sneakypete
The guys probably watched the car and the girls watched Byrnes.
Me, my favourite thing about the car was the song it eventually inspired . . .
Jan & Dean, "Bucket T"
Error 404 (Not Found)!!1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GUPPz1he3sQ#)
I thought and still think that the snazziest ride on television was the Green Hornet's Black Beauty in 1966-67. (But then I had a good reason to admire the Green Hornet himself---he was the only crimefighter/superhero of his time who didn't run around in his underwear . . . )
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Jesus! How freaking stupid did you have to be to have to take classes to figure out how to drive a 1948 model tractor?
Pretty smart, if you ask me. Beats spending your years bent over shin deep in rice paddy water.
I'd bet most of the ordinary folks there hadn't even seen a tractor until the Japanese invaded, if then.
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@sneakypete
I thought and still think that the snazziest ride on television was the Green Hornet's Black Beauty in 1966-67. (But then I had a good reason to admire the Green Hornet himself---he was the only crimefighter/superhero of his time who didn't run around in his underwear . . . )
@EasyAce
I never even heard of that show. I bet I didn't watch 10 hours of tv in the 10 years of the 70's,and that was by accident when I went to visit friends that had their tv's on. Even then I would leave if they started to watch another show.
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Dean Torrence still lives in Surf City
Error 404 (Not Found)!!1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTf2MehizWI#)
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Rocky Johnson, WWE Hall of Famer and father of 'The Rock,' dies at 75
Rocky Johnson, father of "The Rock" and a legendary professional wrestler in his own right, has died, WWE announced Wednesday. He was 75.
Johnson, born in Nova Scotia, Canada, held several National Wrestling Alliance (NWA) singles titles across the United States and Canada during a career that spanned from 1964 to 1991. He was a part of the first black tag team to win the then-WWF world tag team title with Tony Atlas in 1983.
Johnson was inducted into the WWE Hall of Fame in 2008. He was inducted into the St. Louis Wrestling Hall of Fame in the same year.
No cause of death was released.
https://www.espn.com/wwe/story/_/id/28492121/rocky-johnson-wwe-hall-famer-father-rock-dies-75 (https://www.espn.com/wwe/story/_/id/28492121/rocky-johnson-wwe-hall-famer-father-rock-dies-75)
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I know this isn’t a normal obit, but it’s our national bird :patriot:
Offspring of Popular Eagle Cam Birds Dies in Florida Ranch
FORT MYERS, Fla. (AP) — The offspring of two bald eagles observed on a popular live webcam has died in a Florida ranch.
The Southwest Florida Eagle Cam said Wednesday in a Facebook post that an eaglet of Harriet and M15 died.
The post did not specify how the eaglet named E14 died, but it said the bird was observed bleeding Tuesday and died overnight. The cam was moved away from the nest Wednesday as the eaglet was being eaten.
https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/florida/articles/2020-01-15/offspring-of-popular-eagle-cam-birds-dies-in-florida-ranch (https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/florida/articles/2020-01-15/offspring-of-popular-eagle-cam-birds-dies-in-florida-ranch)
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Poor little one. It will soar into the heavens now.
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@EasyAce
I never even heard of that show. I bet I didn't watch 10 hours of tv in the 10 years of the 70's,and that was by accident when I went to visit friends that had their tv's on. Even then I would leave if they started to watch another show.
@sneakypete
Check this out, Green Hornet, I think actually the 1960s, if I'm not mistaken it ran on ABC when Batman was running too.
(http://www.worldmartialartscollege.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/hornet.jpg)
"Let's roll Keto", the chauffeur on the Green Hornet was none other than Bruce Lee.
(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-3wn1xawOoDw/VwQIR-L2a0I/AAAAAAAARtA/P3xffgULZBss9lsOIweJpoWb1af9cBNMA/s1600/vlcsnap-2016-04-05-12h01m13s771.png)
Funny how 'Batman' became a big show in syndication with reruns... but not the 'Green Hornet'. Youtube probably has some on it.
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@sneakypete
Check this out, Green Hornet, I think actually the 1960s, if I'm not mistaken it ran on ABC when Batman was running too.
(http://www.worldmartialartscollege.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/hornet.jpg)
"Let's roll Keto", the chauffeur on the Green Hornet was none other than Bruce Lee.
(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-3wn1xawOoDw/VwQIR-L2a0I/AAAAAAAARtA/P3xffgULZBss9lsOIweJpoWb1af9cBNMA/s1600/vlcsnap-2016-04-05-12h01m13s771.png)
Funny how 'Batman' became a big show in syndication with reruns... but not the 'Green Hornet'. Youtube probably has some on it.
@TomSea
I stopped watching tv in Jan of 64,when I joined the army. It wasn't intentional,but it worked out that I didn't have the time because tv would have cut into my drinking and chasing women time,which I didn't have enough of anyhow. Plus at that time there were no tv's allowed in barracks,and you had to go to the Day Room to watch the one tv allowed,and it seemed like it was always some sort of sports program on. I loved playing sports,but hated watching it.
As for Batman,Batman creeped me out. I KNEW that SOB was a homo child-molester before I even knew what a homo or a child-molestor was. After all,what grown man runs around in rubber tights and mask,accompanied by his teen-age "male companion" that wears yellow drawers on the outside? SOB was so light in the loafers it's a wonder he didn't float away. I got all that from the very first Batman comic book I bought when I was maybe 6-8 years old,and had and still have zero interest in watching that fairy flounce around.
Had never heard the term or knew what S&M was when I was a small child either,but I knew instinctively that he and "Robin" were a matching pair. Just creeped me the hell out.
Never understood how anybody else missed picking up on him being a perve,either.
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Last night my mother died, as she desired, at her home under paliative hospice care. She turned 95 on Jan. 2nd. She lived 23 years after her husband died (my father).
She was born in Ithaca NY, but moved to SoCal at age 3.
Her father grew up in Minneapolis, fought in WWI in France. Her mother was a college botany professor during the 1920s in NY.
In 1928 three generations moved to SoCal, my mother, her parents, and her father's parents.
They wound up settling on a walnut orchard in Whittier Calif.
She went through school in Whittier, including graduation from Whittier College with a BS in chemistery.
She met my father during WWII at a USO dance in Oceanside Calif, where he served in the US Marines.
After the ar aand marriage, they trekked aroung Utah, Wyoming, Colorado before returning to SoCal
They had 5 children, four still living. Eight grandchildren, s few more greatgrandchildren.
She will be interned at Rose Hills, Whittier California. With her grandparents, parents, a baby sister, Aunt, husband, one son.
My youngest sister has been her caregiver, and we owe much gratitude to her.
My home has been the site of many years of family holidays, for both my side, and my wife's side (her mother died 2 1/2 years ago.
Good bye Mom. God bless.
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My deepest condolences, I am sorry to hear this.
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@truth_seeker
May your Mom rest in the peace of Christ. And may God comfort you and your family.
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Last night my mother died, as she desired, at her home under paliative hospice care. She turned 95 on Jan. 2nd. She lived 23 years after her husband died (my father).
@truth_seeker
Sounds like she had a good life. Celebrate that.
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Good bye Mom. God bless.
My sincere condolences.
I'm experiencing similar loss myself, for the first time in my life. It is more difficult than I had imagined.
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My condolences to you, @truth_seeker. My Mom passed last month, at 91.
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@truth_seeker, sorry to hear of your loss. Even when expected, it brings changes.
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So sorry @skeeter May God give you strength and comfort.
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So sorry @skeeter May God give you strength and comfort.
Thanks @applwood. We all gotta take our turn.
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Thanks @applwood. We all gotta take our turn.
Yes, we do. I can't imagine Dad lasting much longer. He's 94.
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@truth_seeker
May your mother be serene and happy in the company of the angels and may your family have the peace of having had her with you on earth for as long as you were blessed to have her.
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My mother would have been 95 today (she died 5 years ago), so condolences to all who have lost a parent recently.
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Thanks @applwood. We all gotta take our turn.
Lost my Dad in 1992 and my mother in 2004. I think what bothers me the most is that they were from the Greatest Generation and I worry that, as they all leave us, we are going to be left with a bunch of snowflakes and whiners.
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Last night my mother died, as she desired, at her home under paliative hospice care. She turned 95 on Jan. 2nd. She lived 23 years after her husband died (my father).
Good bye Mom. God bless.
My Condolences RIP and may perpetual light shine upon her and all the souls of the faithfully departed.
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Christopher Tolkien dead at the age of 95
Christopher Tolkien, the son of J.R.R. Tolkien and the famed author’s literary executor, has died at the age of 95.
His death was announced in a statement from The Tolkien Society, which sent condolences to his family members, including wife Baillie and children Simon, Adam, and Rachel.
Excerpted, full article here -> https://people.com/books/christopher-tolkien-dies-age-95/ (https://people.com/books/christopher-tolkien-dies-age-95/)
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@truth_seeker Sorry about your loss.
Sounds like your mom had an interesting life, and I am sure you will miss her.
Prayers up for you and your family.
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Condolences @truth_seeker.
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@truth_seeker
I’m so sorry for your loss. Take good care of yourself.
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Derek Fowlds: Heartbeat and Yes Minister actor dies aged 82
Actor Derek Fowlds, star of Heartbeat and Yes Minister, has died aged 82, his family has said.
https://news.sky.com/story/derek-fowlds-heartbeat-and-yes-minister-actor-dies-aged-82-11910634
I only saw him in “Yes, Minister†and “Yes, Prime Minister†But he was very good. RIP.
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Nitty Gritty Dirt Band Alum Chris Darrow Dies
Read More: Nitty Gritty Dirt Band Alum Chris Darrow Dies | https://tasteofcountry.com/nitty-gritty-dirt-band-chris-darrow-dies/?fbclid=IwAR0J1iSNzZe1RaIuCi8iD9F6eTxmhfMQgZKFIOWfyohvDlhy5aqX61F391o&utm_source=tsmclip&utm_medium=referral
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Good bye Mom. God bless.
I'm experiencing similar loss myself, for the first time in my life. It is more difficult than I had imagined.
Condolences to you both :0001: :0001:
When my dad died it left a hole crater in my heart that will never heal...When mother goes, it is sure to be even worse.
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David Glass
Former Wal-Mart CEO, owner of the Kansas City Royals dies at 84
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/16/David_Glass.png)
Glass served as an executive with Wal-Mart from 1976 to 2000, back when the company still had that little hyphen-star in its name. In 1993, he took over as chairman of the Kansas City Royals and by 2000 he had assumed ownership of the franchise. Initially reviled for his cost-cutting tactics and the persistently poor on-field performance of his cut-rate squad for most of his early tenure, he eventually vindicated himself when the Royals won the World Series in 2015. Glass sold the team to John Sherman last year.
Obituary from the Kansas City Star (https://www.kansascity.com/sports/mlb/kansas-city-royals/article239406338.html)
Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Glass_(businessman))
cc: @EasyAce
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Singer-songwriter David Olney dies on stage during performance at Florida festival
Olney, 71, fell silent and dropped his head in the midst of his set at the 30A Songwriters Festival in Santa Rosa Beach on Saturday night.
Jan. 19, 2020, 2:11 PM EST
By Variety
Singer-songwriter David Olney has died at age 71, after falling silent and dropping his head in the midst of a performance at the 30A Songwriters Festival in Santa Rosa Beach, Florida, Saturday night.
Some news reports said he "collapsed" on stage, but that isn't quite true: Olney simply became still on his stool, leading some audience members and even the musicians beside him to think he was simply taking a pause, before they realized what had happened and lowered him to the stage. ...
Olney was a revered figure in the folk-rock and Americana communities who had recorded 20 albums of his own as well as having his songs covered by Emmylou Harris, Linda Ronstadt, Del McCoury and his former roommate Steve Earle. ... More from NBC News (https://www.nbcnews.com/pop-culture/music/singer-songwriter-david-olney-dies-onstage-during-performance-florida-festival-n1118611)
Video recorded earlier on the day he died:
Error 404 (Not Found)!!1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=10&v=v73VQVZpViA&feature=emb_logo#)
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Thanks for that @mountaineer
Mr. Olney's discography, song writing, etc. calls for more research, quite a bit at the Wikipedia article (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Olney), wrote songs for some very good artists, I will have to post some of this later, maybe in that "Share what you are listening too" category or the country music thread for that matter. He sounded very talented. Rest in peace. Yes, I think I had come across some of his music previously.
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Singer-songwriter David Olney dies on stage during performance at Florida festival
Olney, 71, fell silent and dropped his head in the midst of his set at the 30A Songwriters Festival in Santa Rosa Beach on Saturday night.
Jan. 19, 2020, 2:11 PM EST
By Variety
Singer-songwriter David Olney has died at age 71, after falling silent and dropping his head in the midst of a performance at the 30A Songwriters Festival in Santa Rosa Beach, Florida, Saturday night.
Some news reports said he "collapsed" on stage, but that isn't quite true: Olney simply became still on his stool, leading some audience members and even the musicians beside him to think he was simply taking a pause, before they realized what had happened and lowered him to the stage. ...
Olney was a revered figure in the folk-rock and Americana communities who had recorded 20 albums of his own as well as having his songs covered by Emmylou Harris, Linda Ronstadt, Del McCoury and his former roommate Steve Earle. ... More from NBC News (https://www.nbcnews.com/pop-culture/music/singer-songwriter-david-olney-dies-onstage-during-performance-florida-festival-n1118611)
Video recorded earlier on the day he died:
Error 404 (Not Found)!!1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=10&v=v73VQVZpViA&feature=emb_logo#)
That's the way to go, if you're a musician.
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Larry Elder
@larryelder
Grandma Takeshita, R.I.P.
She died last Saturday, just before her 93rd birthday. This WWII relocation camp detainee-and dear friend of our family—was devoted to her beloved husband, family and America. I’ll be attending her funeral services this afternoon.
#RestInPeace
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EO0eSBFUYAErD9R?format=jpg&name=small)
https://twitter.com/larryelder/status/1219664372437417984
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Terry Jones
Member of Monty Python dies at 77
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Jones in character from the "Spanish Inquisition" sketch
Jones, a college classmate of Michael Palin's, was one of the founding members and creative forces behind the Monty Python comedy troupe, directing or co-directing all three of their films.
Jones died January 20 from complications of dementia.
Obituary from The Guardian (https://www.theguardian.com/film/2020/jan/22/terry-jones-monty-python-founder-and-life-of-brian-director-dies-aged-77)
Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terry_Jones)
IMDB (https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001402/)
WARNING: Politically incorrect language.
Monty Python:Never Be Rude To an Arab - video dailymotion (http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2oqbd9)
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Terry Jones
Member of Monty Python dies at 77
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/2e/Monty_Python_Live_02-07-14_12_47_22_%2814415436819%29.jpg/260px-Monty_Python_Live_02-07-14_12_47_22_%2814415436819%29.jpg)
Jones in character from the "Spanish Inquisition" sketch
Jones, a college classmate of Michael Palin's, was one of the founding members and creative forces behind the Monty Python comedy troupe, directing or co-directing all three of their films.
Jones died January 20 from complications of dementia.
Obituary from The Guardian (https://www.theguardian.com/film/2020/jan/22/terry-jones-monty-python-founder-and-life-of-brian-director-dies-aged-77)
Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terry_Jones)
IMDB (https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001402/)
WARNING: Politically incorrect language.
Monty Python:Never Be Rude To an Arab - video dailymotion (http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2oqbd9)
Tragic loss, he was a comic genius. RIP sir you made me laugh.
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Jim Lehrer
PBS news anchor dies at 85
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/21/Jim_Lehrer_(2011).jpg/244px-Jim_Lehrer_(2011).jpg)
Lehrer was the lead anchor of PBS's The MacNeil-Lehrer NewsHour from 1975 until his retirement in 2011. He was also a frequent debate moderator, hosting 12 presidential debates between 1988 and 2012.
Obituary from PBS (https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/remembering-jim-lehrer)
Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Lehrer)
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Jim Lehrer
PBS news anchor dies at 85
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/21/Jim_Lehrer_(2011).jpg/244px-Jim_Lehrer_(2011).jpg)
Lehrer was the lead anchor of PBS's The MacNeil-Lehrer NewsHour from 1975 until his retirement in 2011. He was also a frequent debate moderator, hosting 12 presidential debates between 1988 and 2012.
Obituary from PBS (https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/remembering-jim-lehrer)
Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Lehrer)
I rarely missed the original MacNeil-Lehrer NewsHour until Robert McNeil retired.
RIP.
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Lehrer was at least one of the more civil neo-Stalinists even if he was completely in the tank for collectivism with all his journo buddies.
I'll give him that.
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https://www.christianpost.com/news/the-walking-bible-televangelist-jack-van-impe-dies-at-88.html (https://www.christianpost.com/news/the-walking-bible-televangelist-jack-van-impe-dies-at-88.html)
‘The Walking Bible’ televangelist Jack Van Impe dies at 88
Televangelist Jack Van Impe, the host of the show "Jack Van Impe Presents," has died at the age of 88.
Van Impe’s ministry, Jack Van Impe Ministries International, announced the news on its website.
“The beloved Dr. Jack Van Impe was welcomed into Heaven by His blessed Savior and Lord who he had so faithfully served in ministry for over 70 years,†the statement reads. “Please pray for his beloved wife and lifelong ministry partner Rexella and their families as they grieve this immense loss and for wisdom as she and the Board lead the ministry in the days ahead.â€
Van Impe was more toward the Fundamentalist side of Evangelicals and more into eschatology than I am, but he is fairly well known in Evangelical circles.
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I saw many of Jack's shows with Rexella. Very entertaining.
I saw him in the '90s and I have seen it in the past few years and he hailed from and I believe broadcast from Michigan.
Bible prophecy is of importance to many. What he'd say is probably a bit similar to Hal Lindsay.
Thanks Jack, you will be missed. Sorry to hear this.
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I watched a number of Van Impes' shows over the years. While I didn't always agree with their conclusions, Jack and Rexella always came off as decent, sincere, and down to earth people.
I don't recall any scandal associated with him, except the usual raging by the leftists. Seemed like a guy that lived what he preached.
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I watched a number of Van Impes' shows over the years. While I didn't always agree with their conclusions, Jack and Rexella always came off as decent, sincere, and down to earth people.
I don't recall any scandal associated with him, except the usual raging by the leftists. Seemed like a guy that lived what he preached.
Yep... Same thinking here.
RIP.
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I saw many of Jack's shows with Rexella. Very entertaining.
I saw him in the '90s and I have seen it in the past few years and he hailed from and I believe broadcast from Michigan.
Bible prophecy is of importance to many. What he'd say is probably a bit similar to Hal Lindsay.
Thanks Jack, you will be missed. Sorry to hear this.
W'pedia's page for Van Impe is fairly informative. For a site that is reliably Lib-Prog in socio-political matters, it's interesting that no scandals - moral or money - are mentioned. He and Rexella, who survived him apparently, married before I was born. 65 years' marriage isn't Guinness Book of World's records grade, but definitely impressive.
From the W'pedia page, Van Impe was definitely into Dispensationalist, Pre-Millennial, Pre-Tribulation eschatology, and made that the focus of his ministry. I'm Pan-Mil, Pan-Trib - it'll all pan out in the end, ****drummer . Hal Lindsey is of similar views. I thought Lindsey was younger than Van Impe, but he is actually a year or two older.
It's disappointing to me that Van Impe started or repeated the ludicrous claim that Rick Warren was teaching/advocating what Van Impe and others have called "Chrislam" (merged Christianity and Islam). Obviously 8-10 years after the fact gives something close to 20-20 hindsight, but I said on another discussion site around that time that it was a ridiculous claim. Gnat-screening heresy-hunting is a trap to which Fundamentalist seem somewhat more susceptible than most Evangelicals, and this is far from the worst I've seen.
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Former Rep. Fortney "Pete" Stark (D-CA) dies at 88
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Initially running on the premise that his predecessor had been in Congress for 28 years and that that was too long, Stark went on to serve 40 years in Congress, only leaving after redistricting led to his defeat in a jungle primary by current Rep. Eric Swalwell.
He was antiwar, pro-Obamacare, atheist (the first Congress member to openly admit as much), and regularly insulted other Congress members in debates.
Obituary from the Associated Press (https://spectrumlocalnews.com/nys/jamestown/ap-top-news/2020/01/25/pete-stark-congressman-who-reshaped-health-care-has-died)
Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pete_Stark)
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I should hate Mr. Stark for contributing to the imposition of Obamacare on us. But right now, his soul is in God's hands. He will judge Mr. Stark, not me.
However, Mr. Stark does have family who I assume mourn his passing. So I will pray for God's comfort for them.
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I should hate Mr. Stark for contributing to the imposition of Obamacare on us. But right now, his soul is in God's hands. He will judge Mr. Stark, not me.
However, Mr. Stark does have family who I assume mourn his passing. So I will pray for God's comfort for them.
Nope, he was an atheist so no soul delivered to Heaven or Hell it just dissolved away into the abyss.
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As far as I'm concerned, this is enough of Pete Stark's legacy for me to know what to think of his death:
https://pjmedia.com/eddriscoll/2004/5/8/pete-stark-loses-it-again/
Pete Stark loses it again, after voting against a House resolution condemning the prisoner abuse in Iraq while commending soldiers serving with honor. One of the constituents of the Democratic congressman from California, a member of the California Army National Guard, life member of the Veterans of Foreign Wars and a member of the American Legion sent Stark a fax questioning his judgment:
Staff Sergeant Dowd wrote politely and respectfully, "There are many soldiers, sailors, Marines, airmen and Coast Guardsmen from your 13th congressional district who are serving with pride and distinction." He called Fortney's vote "a disgrace...way out of touch with the people of this district." The fax drove Fortney to call this soldier up and leave this obscenity-laced torrent of insults on his answering machine:
"Dan, this is Congressman 'Pete' Stark, and I just got your fax and you don't know what you're talking about. So if you care about enlisted people you wouldn't have voted for that thing, either. But probably somebody put you up to this, and I'm not sure who it was, but I doubt if you could spell half the words in the letter. Somebody wrote it for you so I don't pay much attention to it, but I'll call you back later and let you tell me more about why you think you're such a great G--damn hero and why you think that this general and the defense department who forced these poor enlisted (bitter laughter) guys to do what they should shouldn't be held to account. That's the issue. So if you want to stick it to a bunch of enlisted guys have your way, but if you want to get to the bottom of people who forced this awful program in...Iraq, then you should understand more about it than you obviously do. Thanks."
That is why, as awful as Eric Swillwell (intentional spelling "correction") is, I think he's less awful than was his predecessor Pete Stark. If Stark's eternal destiny is infernal, I won't rejoice. But I won't be mourning him either.
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Former Rep. Fortney "Pete" Stark (D-CA) dies at 88
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Initially running on the premise that his predecessor had been in Congress for 28 years and that that was too long, Stark went on to serve 40 years in Congress, only leaving after redistricting led to his defeat in a jungle primary by current Rep. Eric Swalwell.
He was antiwar, pro-Obamacare, atheist (the first Congress member to openly admit as much), and regularly insulted other Congress members in debates.
Obituary from the Associated Press (https://spectrumlocalnews.com/nys/jamestown/ap-top-news/2020/01/25/pete-stark-congressman-who-reshaped-health-care-has-died)
Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pete_Stark)
No comment.
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Nope, he was an atheist so no soul delivered to Heaven or Hell it just dissolved away into the abyss.
And see, I was taught that regardless of whether you believed or not, you still had a soul and it would be judged by God.
But whatever. Mr. Stark's fate is no longer my concern. Not that it ever really was.
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Ixnay on the Eologythay, wink777 .
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@Mod5
My bad. I deserve one of these:
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Kobe Bryant Dead, Dies in Helicopter Crash
Kobe Bryant died in a helicoper crash in Calabasas Sunday morning ... TMZ Sports has confirmed.
Kobe was traveling with at least 3 other people in his private helicopter when it went down. A fire broke out. Emergency personnel responded, but nobody on board survived. 5 people are confirmed dead. We're told Vanessa Bryant was not among those on board.
The cause of the crash is under investigation.
Kobe has famously used a helicopter to travel for years -- dating back to when he played for the Lakers. He was known for commuting from Newport Beach, CA to the STAPLES Center in DTLA in his Sikorsky S-76 chopper.
KB is survived by his wife Vanessa, and their four daughters -- Gianna, Natalia and Bianca and their newborn Capri.
https://www.tmz.com/2020/01/26/kobe-bryant-killed-dead-helicopter-crash-in-calabasas/ (https://www.tmz.com/2020/01/26/kobe-bryant-killed-dead-helicopter-crash-in-calabasas/)
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Breaking story.
RIP Kobe.
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Wow, shocking news about Bryant. I am checking ESPN - so far, nothing.
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On FOX News now.
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How sad. Kobe Bryant. A shock, I can't believe it.
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Lebron just broke Kobe's NBA scoring title last night, too (Lakers lost).
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“We all know that Kobe loved flying on helicopters,†said Hill. “The cause of the crash has not been confirmed but there is some speculation that weather had something to do with it.â€
The cause of the crash is under investigation.
As Hill reported, Bryant was an avid flyer, who enjoyed flying on helicopters.
“This was his normal mode of transportation. Most of the time, he flew from Newport Beach,†Hill said.
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ABC reported all 4 of his children died with him. That's been refuted, now reports say one of his daughters was with him. Seeing a lot of "we'll all remember where we were when Kobe died" posts. Uh, no. *****rollingeyes*****
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As Hill reported, Bryant was an avid flyer, who enjoyed flying on helicopters.
“This was his normal mode of transportation. Most of the time, he flew from Newport Beach,†Hill said.
Kobe owned and/or had driven the most exotic vehicles on the planet.
But like everybody with "Go-to-Hell" money, why not buy your own flying machine...get a rush and get there without any hassle?
...just trying to add some context here.
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Kobe owned and/or had driven the most exotic vehicles on the planet.
But like everybody with "Go-to-Hell" money, why not buy your own flying machine...get a rush and get there without any hassle?
...just trying to add some context here.
I sure as hell wouldn't fault the guy for spending his money however he likes. I don' know what the statistics are as to whether a helicopter or a car would be safer. Seems to me I hear more reports of car crashes than I do of helicopters.
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Kobe owned and/or had driven the most exotic vehicles on the planet.
But like everybody with "Go-to-Hell" money, why not buy your own flying machine...get a rush and get there without any hassle?
...just trying to add some context here.
@DCPatriot
You can't blame him for that. Who wants to be stuck in CA bumper to bumper traffic if they can avoid it?
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Apparently heavy fog (unusual for the area) was a contributing factor. I'll wait for the investigator's report.
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ABC reported all 4 of his children died with him. That's been refuted, now reports say one of his daughters was with him. Seeing a lot of "we'll all remember where we were when Kobe died" posts. Uh, no. *****rollingeyes*****
Publishing first/early is vastly more important to today's MSM than getting things correct. The current word is that Kobe and his daughter, the daughter's friend, the friend's parent, and the pilot are the ones who died.
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Did Kobe have any information that could have implicated Hillary Clinton? Killing all the passengers of an entire aircraft to neutralize the target is a hallmark of a Clinton hit.
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Did Kobe have any information that could have implicated Hillary Clinton? Killing all the passengers of an entire aircraft to neutralize the target is a hallmark of a Clinton hit.
Come here, Cyber. 22222frying pan
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Now 9 are believed to have died, https://nypost.com/2020/01/26/kobe-bryant-reportedly-killed-in-california-helicopter-crash/ . https://fox61.com/2020/01/26/death-toll-now-9-people-in-crash-of-sikorsky-s-76-carrying-kobe-bryant-and-daughter/
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That guy with the frying pan is getting a workout. LOL
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Did Kobe have any information that could have implicated Hillary Clinton? Killing all the passengers of an entire aircraft to neutralize the target is a hallmark of a Clinton hit.
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One of the dead in the crash was longtime college baseball coach John Altobelli. Among other things, he coached Orange Coast College to four state titles and over 700 wins, and when he later managed in the Cape Cod League his players included Aaron Judge (Yankees) and Jeff McNeil (Mets).
He took a chance on me, kept me the whole summer. Him taking that chance on me, having me on his team, got me drafted.--Jeff McNeil.
Altobelli and Bryant apparently became friends after their daughters met and became friends.
RIP.
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Photos and info about all of the dead at Daily Mail (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7933565/Pictured-9-victims-helicopter-crash-killed-Kobe-Bryant-13-year-old-daughter-Gianna.html).
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Photos and info about all of the dead at Daily Mail (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7933565/Pictured-9-victims-helicopter-crash-killed-Kobe-Bryant-13-year-old-daughter-Gianna.html).
@mountaineer
That's the kind of coverage I would like to see from US media. Thanks for posting the link to the Daily Mail.
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Bob Shane, Founding Member of Grammy-Winners The Kingston Trio, Dies at 85
Bob Shane, the last surviving member of The Kingston Trio, a celebrated Bay Area group who sparked the folk music revival in the 1950s, died Sunday (Jan. 26) of complications connected with pneumonia. He was 85.
Shane, Dave Guard and Nick Reynolds established the act in San Francisco in the 1950s, and produced hit after folk hit with seventeen songs impacting the Hot 100, and another 11 titles on the Billboard 200 chart.
The Kingston Trio are best known for "Tom Dooley," which led the Hot 100 in November 1958 and earned the group one of two Grammy Awards, bagging the trophy for best country & western performance.
https://www.billboard.com/articles/news/obituary/8549417/bob-shane-kingston-trio-obit (https://www.billboard.com/articles/news/obituary/8549417/bob-shane-kingston-trio-obit)
@EasyAce
@Sighlass
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Error 404 (Not Found)!!1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YqUEPZOUgJU#)
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John Andretti
Member of auto racing royalty dies at 56
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John was the nephew of open-wheel racing legend Mario Andretti and thus member of a prominent auto racing family along with several of his cousins. He had a diverse racing career that included IndyCar, NASCAR (his longest and most sustained racing circuit, racing for 18 seasons), hot rods and sports cars. He was the first to attempt Double Duty, the 1100-mile, two-race marathon that involves racing in the Indianapolis 500 and Coca-Cola 600 on the same day.
Andretti died January 30 after a three-year bout with colon cancer.
Obituary from Tegna (https://www.wgrz.com/article/news/nation-world/indycar-driver-john-andretti-has-died-at-56-after-cancer-battle/507-caf94fcb-3664-4b91-b92f-e14dc0af9a96)
Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Andretti)
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January 30, 2020 12:24PM PT
Fred Silverman, TV Executive Who Led Programming at ABC, CBS and NBC, Dies at 82
by Paula Bernstein
Fred Silverman, the executive who became the only person in TV history to have headed programming for each of the Big Three broadcast networks, died Thursday at his home in the Pacific Palisades. He was 82.
Silverman died with his family by his side.
During his prolific career, Silverman was credited with helping to launch some of the most successful shows and miniseries of all time, including “All in the Family,†“The Mary Tyler Moore Show,†“Happy Days,†“The Waltons†and “Roots.†...Full story at Variety (https://variety.com/2020/tv/news/fred-silverman-dead-82-abc-cbs-nbc-executive-1203487260/)
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Very few real geniuses on this planet. Silverman was one of them.
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Silverman compiled an impressive body of work. Today's tv shows don't hold a candle to all the shows Silverman was involved in.
Rest in peace.
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Jack Burns
Comic writer dies at 86
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Burns (top) with Avery Schreiber
Burns built a long résumé in his comedy career, beginning with his early work as a double act with George Carlin in the early 1960s. That would be followed by his brief, and ill-fated, run as Warren Ferguson, the deputy sheriff initially tasked to replace Barney Fife on The Andy Griffith Show after Don Knotts left the program; Burns's run as Ferguson lasted less than half a season. He spent the next two decades focused mainly on writing and voice acting, continuing to rack up credits including Hee Haw, The Muppet Show (and The Muppet Movie), and the ABC late-night sketch series Fridays. He continued voice work through the 1990s.
Burns died January 27 after several years in senior care.
Obituary from The Wrap (https://www.thewrap.com/jack-burns-muppet-show-writer-comedian-dead-dies-86/)
Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Burns)
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Silverman compiled an impressive body of work. Today's tv shows don't hold a candle to all the shows Silverman was involved in.
Rest in peace.
Let's just try and forget Supertrain, Pink Lady and Jeff, Hello Larry and Jean Doumanian. :laugh:
Ah, well. We all make mistakes.
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Let's just try and forget Supertrain, Pink Lady and Jeff, Hello Larry and Jean Doumanian. :laugh:
Ah, well. We all make mistakes.
And then he went on to atone for those with Hill Street Blues, Cheers, and St. Elsewhere.
But at least he didn't give us . . .
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Mike
@Doranimated
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What a loss. “Just a Minute†was one of my favorites, not least of all because of the gentlemanly yet mischievous demeanor of Parsons. I had no idea how old he was. It’s amazing not just that he kept working in his 90s but in a format that required a quick wit.
https://twitter.com/Doranimated (https://twitter.com/Doranimated)
Nicholas Parsons: 'Broadcasting legend' dies at 96 after short illness
28 January 2020
Broadcaster Nicholas Parsons has died at the age of 96 after a short illness, his agent has confirmed.
Parsons had hosted Radio 4's Just A Minute since its inception in 1967.
"Nicholas passed away in the early hours of the 28th of January," said a statement issued by his agent Jean Diamond.
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Nicholas Parsons was made a CBE in 2014
Read more at: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-51278023?ns_linkname=news_central&ns_campaign=bbc_breaking&ns_source=twitter&ns_mchannel=social (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-51278023?ns_linkname=news_central&ns_campaign=bbc_breaking&ns_source=twitter&ns_mchannel=social)
I really enjoyed "Just a minute", though, I only heard it a few times. A true legend. RIP.
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Author Mary Higgins Clark, 'Queen of Suspense,' dead at 92
Publishing's “Queen of Suspense†has died
By HILLEL ITALIE AP National Writer
January 31, 2020, 11:01 PM
NEW YORK -- Mary Higgins Clark, the tireless and long-reigning "Queen of Suspense" whose tales of women beating the odds made her one of the world's most popular writers, died Friday at age 92.
Her publisher, Simon & Schuster, announced that she died of natural causes in Naples, Florida. ...
Widowed in her late 30s with five children, she became a perennial bestseller over the second half of her life, writing or co-writing "A Stranger Is Watching," "Daddy's Little Girl" and more than 50 other favorites. Sales topped 100 million copies and honors came from all over, including a Chevalier of the Order of Arts and Letters from France or a Grand Master statuette back home from the Mystery Writers of America. Many of her books, like "A Stranger is Watching" and "Lucky Day," were adapted for movies and television. She also collaborated on several novels with her daughter, Carol Higgins Clark. ... Full story (https://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/wireStory/bestselling-author-mary-higgins-clark-dead-age-92-68684043)
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Sales topped 100 million copies and honors came from all over, including a Chevalier of the Order of Arts and Letters from France or a Grand Master statuette back home from the Mystery Writers of America.
That's pretty damn impressive,I don't care who you are!
I will admit to having never read any of her books,though.
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I’ve read a few. She wasn’t Agatha Christie, but she could write a book you read in a sitting and enjoyed.
RIP.
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Anne Cox Chambers, wealthy newspaper heiress, dies at 100
ATLANTA (AP) — Anne Cox Chambers, a newspaper heiress, diplomat and philanthropist who was one of the country's richest women, died Friday at the age of 100.
Chambers' nephew James Cox Kennedy announced her death to The Atlanta Journal-Constitution, her company's flagship newspaper.
“Aunt Anne was a wonderful, kind and elegant lady who cared deeply about her family, her company and her country,†said Kennedy, who served as Cox Enterprises chief executive officer from 1988 to 2008 and continues as chairman. “She took the responsibility of good fortune very seriously and gave back to the best of her ability to the many causes she cared about.â€
https://www.chron.com/news/us/article/Anne-Cox-Chambers-wealthy-newspaper-heiress-15019276.php (https://www.chron.com/news/us/article/Anne-Cox-Chambers-wealthy-newspaper-heiress-15019276.php)
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Mercenary 'Mad Mike' Hoare dies aged 100
Michael "Mad Mike" Hoare, widely considered the world's most famous mercenary, has died aged 100.
Born in India to Irish parents, he led campaigns in the Congo in the 1960s that earned him fame at the time, and a controversial legacy years later.
His career reached an embarrassing end in 1981, when he was jailed for leading a failed coup in the Seychelles.
Read more at: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-51352075 (https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-51352075)
Note, one movie was made about his mercenary troops,
Actors Richard Harris, Roger Moore, Richard Burton and Hardy Krüger starred in the 1978 film The Wild Geese, based on Mike Hoare's mercenaries
The BBC article above is indepth about some of the places where he operated.
On the topic of "mercenaries", here is a fair read from the Daily Mail.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7954259/New-book-tells-story-elite-band-ex-special-forces-wreaked-havoc-world.html (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7954259/New-book-tells-story-elite-band-ex-special-forces-wreaked-havoc-world.html)
An SOF (Soldier of Fortune) type saga, not really that appropriate. These guys did some heavy stuff and a lot of those stories are embellished too.
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Breaking
Kirk Douglas dead at 103
https://people.com/movies/kirk-douglas-dead/
RIP
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Breaking
Kirk Douglas dead at 103
Tragic loss. Great actor. RIP
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A very long life and great body of work.
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A little fuller obit:
Kirk Douglas
Centenarian actor dies at 103
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Douglas was born into a working-class Jewish household in upstate New York. Wheeling and dealing his way into an acting education at St. Lawrence University, he eventually caught the attention of Lauren Bacall in New York City, which kicked off a professional acting career that lasted six decades.
Wikipedia states: "His popular films include Out of the Past (1947), Champion (1949), Ace in the Hole (1951), The Bad and the Beautiful (1952), 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea (1954), Lust for Life (1956), Paths of Glory (1957), Gunfight at the O.K. Corral (1957), The Vikings (1958), Spartacus (1960), Lonely Are the Brave (1962), Seven Days in May (1964), The Heroes of Telemark (1965), Saturn 3 (1980) and Tough Guys (1986)." One of the most successful actors of the Hollywood era of the mid-20th century, Douglas's tireless approach to acting earned him three Academy Award nominations, but he never won any, instead receiving a lifetime achievement award in 1996.
Douglas's career was curtailed by a stroke in 1996, but he continued to occasionally act into his 90s. He maintained an active presence on the Internet and was still said to be walking around for his 100th birthday; his last public appearance was in 2018, by which point he was wheelchair-bound.
Douglas died February 5 from old age. His son, Michael Douglas, later became an accomplished actor and director in his own right.
Obituary from the Hollywood Reporter (https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/kirk-douglas-dies-spartacus-670526)
Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kirk_Douglas)
IMDB (https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000018/)
Stage credits (https://www.ibdb.com/broadway-cast-staff/38399)
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One of the greats of American cinema. Rest in peace, Mr. Douglas.
One of my favorite films Douglas did with Burt Lancaster, Tough Guys (Eli Wallach is the elderly, half-blind hitman with a contract on them):
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Tragic loss. Great actor. RIP
Wow, 103. Nothing to lament there, only celebrate.
Loved his acting.
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One of the greats of American cinema. Rest in peace, Mr. Douglas.
One of my favorite films Douglas did with Burt Lancaster, Tough Guys (Eli Wallach is the elderly, half-blind hitman with a contract on them):
Error 404 (Not Found)!!1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ZU8q_XVByA#)
Thank you, I was trying to remember the name of that movie
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Navy Times by Hillel Italie 2/6/2020
LOS ANGELES — Kirk Douglas, the muscular actor with the dimpled chin who starred in “Spartacus,†“Lust for Life†and dozens of other films and helped fatally weaken the Hollywood blacklist, has died at 103, People magazine reported Wednesday.
"It is with tremendous sadness that my brothers and I announce that Kirk Douglas left us today at the age of 103," his son Michael said in a statement obtained by People.
“To the world, he was a legend, an actor from the golden age of movies who lived well into his golden years, a humanitarian whose commitment to justice and the causes he believed in set a standard for all of us to aspire to.â€
Kirk Douglas was nominated three times for Oscars — for "Champion," "The Bad and the Beautiful" and "Lust for Life."
He later received an honorary award for “50 years as a creative and moral force†in the movie industry.
More: https://www.navytimes.com/news/your-navy/2020/02/06/kirk-douglas-wwii-navy-vet-hollywood-star-dead-at-103/ (https://www.navytimes.com/news/your-navy/2020/02/06/kirk-douglas-wwii-navy-vet-hollywood-star-dead-at-103/)
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This Dec. 19, 1969 photo shows actor Kirk Douglas and his wife, Anne, attending the premiere
of "Hello Dolly" in Los Angeles. Kirk Douglas died Wednesday at age 103. (David F. Smith/AP)
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Thank you, I was trying to remember the name of that movie
Tough Guys wasn't a major hit, but I think this was the last of several films they both starred in. Even if the film was a turkey, it was great to watch two seasoned pros who seemed to have fun with it. And Eli Wallach was funny as the hit man.
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Douglas was a real actor and not just a "movie star" like a lot of Hollyweird denizens from that era.
Don't want to knock The Duke, but John Wayne basically played himself in every movie.
In fact, when Douglas took the chance to play Vincent Van Gogh in "Lust For Life," Wayne asked him why he'd want to play someone like Van Gogh when he could have accepted typical Hollyweird BIG STAR kind of roles.
But, of course, Douglas could do westerns extremely well. One of his best roles was the role of Marshal Matt Morgan in "Last Train From Gun Hill" one of the least known but best westerns of the fifties.
Anthony Quinn was also very good in the film.
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Kirk Douglas shone in maybe the only Western film I'd still watch other than The Good, The Bad, and the Ugly, playing a marshal whose Indian wife was killed by the sons of his best friend (played just as well by Anthony Quinn), Last Train from Gun Hill . . .
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(Confession: I first saw Last Train from Gun Hill when I was a kid and the title made me curious---because my paternal grandparents lived on Gun Hill Road in the north Bronx!)
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@goatprairie
Regarding John Wayne: I think you may be right -- he did essentially play himself in most movies -- with the possible exception of his last, The Shootist. IMHO, there seemed to be a little bit of acting range there. He handled the part of a dying gunslinger rather well, I thought.
The one thing that made me particularly sad about Kirk Douglas' passing is that he is just about the last of the old school actors. Seemed to me he could do just about anything in any genre. Most of today's actors could 't hold a candle to him in that regard.
A Navy vet too -- many Hollywood stars of Douglas' era answered the call to serve, or if they didn't or couldn't, they enthusiastically supported the military. Many of today's actors are too busy drinking, snorting or shooting something to serve or make an appearance to entertain the troops.
Rest in peace.
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Orson Bean
C-list character actor and comedian dies at 91
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Bean, a regular television presence despite not having a regular starring role until the 1990s Western drama Dr. Quinn, Medicine Woman, appeared regularly in guest appearances, as a recurring actor on anthology shows during the Golden Age of the 1950s, on Broadway, in small parts on film, and as a panelist on game shows. Bean, a conservative, ironically briefly ended up on the Hollywood blacklist in the early 1950s (how he ended up on Broadway) when he dated a communist. He was a founding member of the Sons of the Desert, the Laurel and Hardy fan club.
Bean was married three times and had four children, one of whom, Susanna, married Andrew Breitbart. He died January 7 as the result of being struck by a two-car pile-up while crossing the street.
Obituary from the Daily Mail (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-7980937/Actor-comedian-Orson-Bean-91-dies-tragically-struck-car-Los-Angeles.html)
Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orson_Bean)
IMDB (https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0004730/)
Stage credits (https://www.ibdb.com/broadway-cast-staff/31376)
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His father was a co-founder of the ACLU, but "Orson" was a conservative. A very witty fellow. I remember a bit he did about trying to purchase some personalized handkerchiefs at a haberdashery. He told the proprietor he wanted them to say, "Your name here," just like the ones in the window. The man kept insisting they had to bear the purchaser's monogram, but Bean said, no, I want mine to read, "Your name here."
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Kevin Conway Dies: ‘Gettysburg’, ‘Thirteen Days’ & ‘Invincible’ Actor Was 77
February 7, 2020 2:55pm
Kevin Conway, a veteran actor known for his work in Gettysburg, Thirteen Days and Invincible, among others, died Wednesday of a heart attack, his publicist told Deadline. He was 77.
New York City-born Conway worked as an IBM sales analyst before becoming an actor at age 24. He went on to a decades-long career with dozens of credits in film, television and on the stage. His first major screen role was playing Roland Weary in the 1972 film Slaughterhouse Five, based on the Kurt Vonnegut novel. He went on to play Crum Petree, the insane mailman in the 1988 film Funny Farm; Frank Papale in the 2006 Disney football drama Invincible; and General Curtis LeMay in the 2000 historical drama Thirteen Days. He also played the fictional Sgt. Buster Kilrain in Ron Maxwell’s 1993 epic Gettysburg (see photo above) and its 2003 follow-up Gods and Generals.
His television work included playing Roger Chillingworth in a 1979 TV production of The Scarlet Letter, a role later played by Robert Duvall in 1995’s The Scarlet Letter. Conway also had a memorable guest-starring role on NBC’s Homicide: Life on the Street. In the 1995 episode titled “Heartbeat,†he played Joseph Cardero, the prime suspect in a cold-case murder who is obsessed with Edgar Allan Poe. Cardero ultimately meets his end in the same manner his victim did – and with a chilling nod to Poe’s The Tell-Tale Heart.
Read more at: https://deadline.com/2020/02/kevin-conway-dead-gettysburg-thirteen-days-invincible-actor-director-was-77-1202854335/
I have seen '13 days' which is about the Cuban missile crisis and he played General Curtis Lemay. Most articles name mainly his role in 'Gettysburg'.
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Orson Bean
C-list character actor and comedian dies at 91
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d5/Orson_Bean_1965.JPG/220px-Orson_Bean_1965.JPG)
Bean, a regular television presence despite not having a regular starring role until the 1990s Western drama Dr. Quinn, Medicine Woman, appeared regularly in guest appearances, as a recurring actor on anthology shows during the Golden Age of the 1950s, on Broadway, in small parts on film, and as a panelist on game shows. Bean, a conservative, ironically briefly ended up on the Hollywood blacklist in the early 1950s (how he ended up on Broadway) when he dated a communist. He was a founding member of the Sons of the Desert, the Laurel and Hardy fan club.
Bean was married three times and had four children, one of whom, Susanna, married Andrew Breitbart. He died January 7 as the result of being struck by a two-car pile-up while crossing the street.
Obituary from the Daily Mail (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-7980937/Actor-comedian-Orson-Bean-91-dies-tragically-struck-car-Los-Angeles.html)
Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orson_Bean)
IMDB (https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0004730/)
Stage credits (https://www.ibdb.com/broadway-cast-staff/31376)
@jmyrlefuller
"C list actor"?????
Hell,even I instantly knew who you were talking about when you mentioned his name,and I am hardly a "fan boy" of tv and movie stars. Ok,Ok,there is Sophia,but she is more of a Goddess than a human,and NOBODY is going to EVER mistake her for a man. Anybody that does should be locked away for their own safety.
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I have seen '13 days' which is about the Cuban missile crisis and he played General Curtis Lemay. Most articles name mainly his role in 'Gettysburg'.
He was wonderful in Gettysburg. I also enjoyed his work in Invincible (playing Vince Papale's father).
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Orson Bean
C-list character actor and comedian dies at 91
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d5/Orson_Bean_1965.JPG/220px-Orson_Bean_1965.JPG)
Bean, a regular television presence despite not having a regular starring role until the 1990s Western drama Dr. Quinn, Medicine Woman, appeared regularly in guest appearances, as a recurring actor on anthology shows during the Golden Age of the 1950s, on Broadway, in small parts on film, and as a panelist on game shows. Bean, a conservative, ironically briefly ended up on the Hollywood blacklist in the early 1950s (how he ended up on Broadway) when he dated a communist. He was a founding member of the Sons of the Desert, the Laurel and Hardy fan club.
Bean was married three times and had four children, one of whom, Susanna, married Andrew Breitbart. He died January 7 as the result of being struck by a two-car pile-up while crossing the street.
Obituary from the Daily Mail (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-7980937/Actor-comedian-Orson-Bean-91-dies-tragically-struck-car-Los-Angeles.html)
Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orson_Bean)
IMDB (https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0004730/)
Stage credits (https://www.ibdb.com/broadway-cast-staff/31376)
I always thought he was kind of annoying (the roles he played, that is).
Strange for a 91 year old to die being hit by a car......
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I always thought he was kind of annoying (the roles he played, that is).
Strange for a 91 year old to die being hit by a car......
Apparently he was "collateral damage" from a two-car collision. He was probably walking down a sidewalk, minding his own business.
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@jmyrlefuller
"C list actor"?????
Hell,even I instantly knew who you were talking about when you mentioned his name,and I am hardly a "fan boy" of tv and movie stars. Ok,Ok,there is Sophia,but she is more of a Goddess than a human,and NOBODY is going to EVER mistake her for a man. Anybody that does should be locked away for their own safety.
That's what distinguishes the C-listers from the D-listers.
A C-lister is a recognizable talent who specializes in bit parts and character roles.
The D-listers are people you look at and say, "How did they become famous?" or "Who?"
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I remember Orson Bean primarily from his guest appearances on talk shows, One in particular was the Mike Douglas Show which ran in the afternoons locally back in the 1960s. Bean was a frequent guest. Seemed like a decent fellow and a funny guy.
Sad that he was falsely accused of being a communist. That was my objection to McCarthy and others. Good that they wanted to stamp out communism, but unfortunately, they often were overzealous. A number of people were ruined by false or unproven accusations. Just being seen with a known or suspected communist could get you into trouble.
Anyway, rest in peace, Orson Bean.
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I always thought he was kind of annoying (the roles he played, that is).
Strange for a 91 year old to die being hit by a car......
Actually, one of my grandfathers went the same way, at the age of 93. He was walking home from his weekly poker party (a little tipsy, as usual when leaving his weekly poker party), stepped off a curb without looking, and was hit by a car. Which in my mind just goes to show, when it's your time, it's your time. :shrug:
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Sad that he was falsely accused of being a communist. That was my objection to McCarthy and others. Good that they wanted to stamp out communism, but unfortunately, they often were overzealous. A number of people were ruined by false or unproven accusations. Just being seen with a known or suspected communist could get you into trouble.
Anyway, rest in peace, Orson Bean.
@Applewood
If you've ever seen the Jim Carrey film The Majestic, Carrey portrayed fictitious apolitical screenwriter Peter Appleton, who was named a Communist for no better reason that he'd once accompanied a girlfriend to a Party-offshoot meeting in his college days---a girlfriend who eventually named him a co-Communist to save her own hide. I often wondered if those who came up with The Majestic had Orson Bean in mind when they created the Appleton character, even though Bean was an actor and not a writer at the time he was accused.
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Joe Rollino, Coney Island Strongman, World War II hero died at 104 years old in 2010, he was out for his morning walk and a van hit him... so these things are not all that rare of occurrences, maybe we are more aware because of the ages of these men. Look at all of the bike accidents however, I think when you are starting to get that old, maybe be more observant. Your hearing may not be as good.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Rollino
Joseph Rollino (March 19, 1905 – January 11, 2010) was a decorated World War II veteran, weightlifter, and strongman. The son of Italian immigrants, Rollino dubbed himself the world's strongest man in the 1920s, moving 3,200 pounds (1,500 kg) with his back during the prime of his career.[1]
He was a vegetarian, he got that from his mom who was born in Italy. He did one of those polar bear plunges, I've heard recorded history where interviewed, his paths and Marlon Brando's did cross, So, he was quite a man.
And by the way, it doesn't really matter, tall or short but I do think you'd say he was a pretty short man at that. 5'4", something in that range.
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Mr. M.'s uncle, who survived a Nazi concentration camp, died at age 91 after being struck by a car operated by an inattentive driver.
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@jmyrlefuller
"C list actor"?????
Hell,even I instantly knew who you were talking about when you mentioned his name,and I am hardly a "fan boy" of tv and movie stars.
Seems like a shirty way to describe someone in their obit.
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Apparently he was "collateral damage" from a two-car collision. He was probably walking down a sidewalk, minding his own business.
Yes.... it looks that way.
Still a sad way to die after living so long.....
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Seems like a shirty way to describe someone in their obit.
It wasn't my intent to disrespect the man. Sometimes I just word things awkwardly.
The entertainment world needs the C-listers just as much as the A-listers, after all!
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It wasn't my intent to disrespect the man. Sometimes I just word things awkwardly.
The entertainment world needs the C-listers just as much as the A-listers, after all!
Didn't intend to chide you personally - I thought the term came from the Daily Mail.
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It wasn't my intent to disrespect the man. Sometimes I just word things awkwardly.
The entertainment world needs the C-listers just as much as the A-listers, after all!
And he was damned good at it! He was a big actor.
("There are no small parts, only small actors.")
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Seems like a shirty way to describe someone in their obit.
IIRC, he was a regular on the game show "To Tell the Truth", and I knew who he was, too. Perhaps "Television Celebrity" would have been more accurate, despite his relatively minor film roles. But one look at his IMDB page, and it is unreal just how busy he was between film roles and television, and that was just part of it.
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Robert Conrad of the 'Wild, Wild West' has passed on....84, did he do a show, "Black Sheep Squadron" or something as well? Updating.
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/robert-conrad-dead-wild-wild-west-action-star-was-84-1119262 (https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/robert-conrad-dead-wild-wild-west-action-star-was-84-1119262)
Robert Conrad, Star of TV's 'The Wild Wild West,' Dies at 84
2:23 PM PST 2/8/2020 by Mike Barnes and Duane Byrge
(https://cdn1.thr.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/landscape_928x523/2018/06/wild_wild_west_tv_2-h_2018.jpg)
Photofest
Robert Conrad
Renowned for doing his own stunts, he also starred on such shows as 'Hawaiian Eye' and 'Baa Baa Black Sheep' and on the miniseries 'Centennial.'
Robert Conrad, the athletic, two-fisted actor who starred as Secret Service agent James West and did his own spectacular stunts on the 1960s futuristic CBS Western The Wild Wild West, has died. He was 84.
"He lived a wonderfully long life and while the family is saddened by his passing, he will live forever in their hearts," family spokesman Jeff Ballard told People magazine. No other details of his death were immediately available.
More at above link.
Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Conrad)
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Robert Conrad of the 'Wild, Wild West' has passed on....84, did he do a show, "Black Sheep Squadron" or something as well? Updating.
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/robert-conrad-dead-wild-wild-west-action-star-was-84-1119262 (https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/robert-conrad-dead-wild-wild-west-action-star-was-84-1119262)
Yep, starred as Pappy Boyington.
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0073961/ (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0073961/)
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Seems like a shirty way to describe someone in their obit.
@skeeter
No kidding.
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Robert Conrad, Star of Television Series The Wild Wild West, Dies at 84
Robert Conrad, the actor best known for his role in the television show The Wild Wild West, has died. He was 84.
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Born in Chicago, Illinois on March 1, 1935, Conrad worked as a milkman while pursuing a career as a local nightclub singer before moving to Los Angeles in 1958 and booking his first big recurring role on Hawaiian Eye in 1959.
After Hawaiian Eye, the actor went on to star as Secret Service agent James T. West in The Wild Wild West, which ran from 1965 to 1969. The show followed the characters of West and Artemus Gordon as the country’s first Secret Service agents exploring the west during the Ulysses S. Grant administration.
After the success of The Wild Wild West, Conrad starred in other television shows including The D.A., Assignment: Vienna, Centennial and Baa Baa Black Sheep (which was later syndicated as Black Sheep Squadron.)
https://people.com/tv/robert-conrad-dead-at-84/
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Robert Conrad? OMG!
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Also known for
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LOVED the Wild Wild West. It was SO creative.
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A small private service is scheduled for March 1, which would have been Conrad’s 85th birthday. In lieu of flowers, the family requests that donations be made to the Wounded Warrior Project and The Marine Corps Scholarship Foundation.
This is neat.
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Robert Conrad of the 'Wild, Wild West' has passed on....84, did he do a show, "Black Sheep Squadron" or something as well? Updating.
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/robert-conrad-dead-wild-wild-west-action-star-was-84-1119262 (https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/robert-conrad-dead-wild-wild-west-action-star-was-84-1119262)
Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Conrad)
crap. Another one from my childhood.
I wish this would stop happening.
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James Joyce’s grandson Stephen Joyce, subject of poem ‘Ecce Puer,’ dead at 87
https://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/ny-james-joyce-grandson-dead-20200209-3qjecushvffudbwyxhudhmyviy-story.html (https://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/ny-james-joyce-grandson-dead-20200209-3qjecushvffudbwyxhudhmyviy-story.html)
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crap. Another one from my childhood.
I wish this would stop happening.
@skeeter
I met and became a life long friend of his back in 1978.
I was managing a beach front piano bar/restaurant for a high school buddy in Fort Lauderdale, Florida.
(The Sly Fox on the Galt Ocean Mile)
Bob use to visit whenever he was in town and we'd sit and talk til closing.
Sometimes we would go out 'bar hopping' after I closed our place.
He was a fun guy but quick to anger.
I will miss him.
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@skeeter
I met and became a life long friend of his back in 1978.
I was managing a beach front piano bar/restaurant for a high school buddy in Fort Lauderdale, Florida.
(The Sly Fox on the Galt Ocean Mile)
Bob use to visit whenever he was in town and we'd sit and talk til closing.
Sometimes we would go out 'bar hopping' after I closed our place.
He was a fun guy but quick to anger.
I will miss him.
He seemed in character just as you described him personally. I remember him competing in a footrace against Gabe Kaplan in Battle of the Network Stars, some seventies reality thing, he looked as though he was ready to rip Kaplan's head off.
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@skeeter
I met and became a life long friend of his back in 1978.
I was managing a beach front piano bar/restaurant for a high school buddy in Fort Lauderdale, Florida.
(The Sly Fox on the Galt Ocean Mile)
Bob use to visit whenever he was in town and we'd sit and talk til closing.
Sometimes we would go out 'bar hopping' after I closed our place.
He was a fun guy but quick to anger.
I will miss him.
I remember him from "Battle of the Network Stars", he took it pretty seriously, you can tell he was a guy who didn't like to lose at anything.
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Robert Conrad was in a Colombo where he was a fitness nut, health guru or something like that who pulled off a murder (his wife) and Colombo got involved. This looks like it is dubbed in French but it was this episode.
Error 404 (Not Found)!!1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uWLDDOMw0-8#)
An Exercise in Fatality
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0072802/ (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0072802/)
And here is a clip in English from Vimeo:
https://vimeo.com/332829727 (https://vimeo.com/332829727)
Columbo rage: An Exercise in Fatality on Vimeo (http://vimeo.com/332829727)
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Noted jazz keyboardist Lyle Mays dies at 66
By Robert Jablon | AP
Feb. 11, 2020 at 1:27 a.m. EST
LOS ANGELES — Lyle Mays, a jazz keyboardist whose work, chiefly with the Pat Metheny Group, won nearly a dozen Grammy Awards, died Monday in Los Angeles, it was announced. He was 66.
Mays had a “long battle with a recurring illness,†according to Pat Metheny’s website. ...WashPost (https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/obituaries/noted-jazz-keyboardist-lyle-mays-dies-at-66/2020/02/11/896ce19e-4c97-11ea-967b-e074d302c7d4_story.html?fbclid=IwAR3Nis01w4qSzNt8-8Nfn43f0NiF-Qmy8vdx1nxTBNRafDCIr_B6LUVG69Q)
Error 404 (Not Found)!!1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8UoV0xBsVI&fbclid=IwAR3i67OLLWZ8rkDXGr3fURSomMBD-54u2KV-zDQoZLZKe-Tttf1wce6wR6U#)
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Noted jazz keyboardist Lyle Mays dies at 66
By Robert Jablon | AP
Feb. 11, 2020 at 1:27 a.m. EST
LOS ANGELES — Lyle Mays, a jazz keyboardist whose work, chiefly with the Pat Metheny Group, won nearly a dozen Grammy Awards, died Monday in Los Angeles, it was announced. He was 66.
Mays had a “long battle with a recurring illness,†according to Pat Metheny’s website. ...WashPost (https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/obituaries/noted-jazz-keyboardist-lyle-mays-dies-at-66/2020/02/11/896ce19e-4c97-11ea-967b-e074d302c7d4_story.html?fbclid=IwAR3Nis01w4qSzNt8-8Nfn43f0NiF-Qmy8vdx1nxTBNRafDCIr_B6LUVG69Q)
Error 404 (Not Found)!!1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8UoV0xBsVI&fbclid=IwAR3i67OLLWZ8rkDXGr3fURSomMBD-54u2KV-zDQoZLZKe-Tttf1wce6wR6U#)
@mountaineer
DAMN! How old was he when he started playing with them,10?
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Noted jazz keyboardist Lyle Mays dies at 66
By Robert Jablon | AP
Feb. 11, 2020 at 1:27 a.m. EST
LOS ANGELES — Lyle Mays, a jazz keyboardist whose work, chiefly with the Pat Metheny Group, won nearly a dozen Grammy Awards, died Monday in Los Angeles, it was announced. He was 66.
Mays had a “long battle with a recurring illness,†according to Pat Metheny’s website. ...WashPost (https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/obituaries/noted-jazz-keyboardist-lyle-mays-dies-at-66/2020/02/11/896ce19e-4c97-11ea-967b-e074d302c7d4_story.html?fbclid=IwAR3Nis01w4qSzNt8-8Nfn43f0NiF-Qmy8vdx1nxTBNRafDCIr_B6LUVG69Q)
Error 404 (Not Found)!!1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8UoV0xBsVI&fbclid=IwAR3i67OLLWZ8rkDXGr3fURSomMBD-54u2KV-zDQoZLZKe-Tttf1wce6wR6U#)
This is devastating news, the Pat Metheny Group has literally been the 'soundtrack of my life' for the last 40 years. I'll never forget that first time I heard San Lorenzo.
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This is devastating news, the Pat Metheny Group has literally been the 'soundtrack of my life' for the last 40 years. I'll never forget that first time I heard San Lorenzo.
@dfwgator
I don't even like Jazz,which I call "notes in search of a tune",and even I know who they are.
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Some of these don't have much pertinence to us except in this first case, apparently, they recorded some with Paul Simon in his album that had a South African influence to it.
Joseph Shabalala, Ladysmith Black Mambazo founder, has died at 78
The founder of the South African multi-Grammy-Award-winning music group Ladysmith Black Mambazo, Joseph Shabalala, the state broadcaster reported Tuesday. He was 78.
Shabalala died at a hospital in the capital, Pretoria, Tuesday morning, his family confirmed to local media. The group confirmed the news on social media, saying: "Through your music and the millions who you came in contact with, you shall live forever."
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In this March 1993 file photo, Joseph Shabalala, front left, founder of South Africa's Ladysmith Black Mambazo, stands with the group and Paul Simon, front right, as they pose for a photograph.
More: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/joseph-shabalala-died-ladysmith-black-mambazo-founder-dead-age-78-cause-of-death-not-released/ (https://www.cbsnews.com/news/joseph-shabalala-died-ladysmith-black-mambazo-founder-dead-age-78-cause-of-death-not-released/)
Error 404 (Not Found)!!1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAhHGYrzj2M#)
And, apparently, a big gospel singer in Kenya, "Papa Dennis" has died, young guy, maybe jumped out of a window which would be suicide which is what some earlier articles insinuated but this article is saying the police are looking at other possibilities.
Award winning Kenyan gospel musician Papa Dennis found dead by roadside
By Angella Semu / Tuesday, 11 Feb 2020
NAIROBI-(MaraviPost)-Renowned multiple award-winning Kenyan gospel artist, Dennis Mwangi popularly known as Papa Dennis is dead.
According to the reports, the body of Dennis was discovered on the roadside in Pangani, Nairobi, on Friday night, February 7, 2020.
His death was confirmed by Legendary gospel artist, Daddy Owen who was present at the scene.
See article: https://www.maravipost.com/award-winning-kenyan-gospel-musician-papa-dennis-found-dead-by-roadside/ (https://www.maravipost.com/award-winning-kenyan-gospel-musician-papa-dennis-found-dead-by-roadside/)
Error 404 (Not Found)!!1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYwRubgtFd8#)
https://www.capitalfm.co.ke/thesauce/the-seven-top-collabos-by-papa-dennis-that-you-should-listen-to-today/ (https://www.capitalfm.co.ke/thesauce/the-seven-top-collabos-by-papa-dennis-that-you-should-listen-to-today/)
So, all of this is interesting, not my cup-of-tea, what can one say.
Most cultures have some very good music, it's just hard to know, where to find it. I looked at a bit of Afghanistan music the other day.
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Graceland was a great album.
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Body found by the roadside and that's all they mention? Is there some PC editing being done by the reporting agency to hide murders of African Christians?
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Paul English, Willie Nelson's longtime drummer, dead at 87, publicist says
By Mariah Haas | Fox News
Paul English, Willie Nelson's longtime drummer, is dead, the singer's publicist confirmed to Fox News. He was 87.
Nelson's rep had no other details about English's death as of Wednesday.
English joined Nelson's band, nicknamed the Family, in 1966 and continued with him for most of his long career. English earned a reputation for brandishing a firearm and engaging in off-stage scuffles that made him an outlaw sideman as tough as Nelson.
Read more at: https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/paul-english-willie-nelson-longtime-drummer-dead (https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/paul-english-willie-nelson-longtime-drummer-dead)
wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_English_(drummer))
Subject of song, "Me and Paul" by Willie Nelson:
Error 404 (Not Found)!!1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4uSFw165Qk0#)
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wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_English_(drummer))
Subject of song, "Me and Paul" by Willie Nelson:
I actually did see him (in Buffalo) 2X and the shows were amazing. He may be a liberal, but No politics in his show, just singing.
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One of those actors whose face I recognize, but couldn't have told you the name.
Lynn Cohen, 'Sex and the City' Actress and Veteran Broadway Performer, Dies at 86
Ross A. Lincoln
Lynn Cohen, the veteran Broadway actress also known to millions for her role as Magda on the HBO series "Sex and the City" and its subsequent movies, died Friday, her representative told TheWrap. She was 86.
Born in Kansas City Missouri in 1933, Cohen had a wide ranging career with dozens of credits in film and television and the stage. Among her most well known roles, she portrayed Golda Meir in Steven Spielberg's "Munich," Mags in "The Hunger Games: Catching Fire," and also appeared in the films "Across the Universe, "Eagle Eye," the 2014 comedy "They Came Together," and Charlie Kauffman's "Synecdoche, New York," among many others. ...
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IMDb listing (https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0169565/)
She had a recurring role as a judge in Law and Order - I thought that's where I'd seen her!
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One of those actors whose face I recognize, but couldn't have told you the name. (https://c-3sux78kvnkay76x24osm-y-syt-iusx2egqgsgofkjx2etkz.g01.msn.com/g00/3_c-3ccc.syt.ius_/c-3SUXKVNKAY76x24nzzvyx3ax2fx2fosm-y-syt-ius.gqgsgofkj.tkzx2fzktgtzx2fgsvx2fktzozeojx2fHH767ceF.osmx3fnx3d746x26cx3d836x26sx3d2x26wx3d26x26ux3dlx26rx3dlx26dx3d989x26ex3d874x26o76i.sgx78qx3dosgmk_$/$/$/$/$)
IMDb listing (https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0169565/)
She had a recurring role as a judge in Law and Order - I thought that's where I'd seen her!
She was great in Catching Fire, and very creepy in a Law and Order SVU.
Good actress....... but yeah.......... didn't know her name.
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Douglas was a real actor and not just a "movie star" like a lot of Hollyweird denizens from that era.
Don't want to knock The Duke, but John Wayne basically played himself in every movie.
In fact, when Douglas took the chance to play Vincent Van Gogh in "Lust For Life," Wayne asked him why he'd want to play someone like Van Gogh when he could have accepted typical Hollyweird BIG STAR kind of roles.
But, of course, Douglas could do westerns extremely well. One of his best roles was the role of Marshal Matt Morgan in "Last Train From Gun Hill" one of the least known but best westerns of the fifties.
Anthony Quinn was also very good in the film.
@goatprairie
I couldn't remember watching "Last Train From Gun Hill" before. I watched it last nite and when watching the shootout scene at the end next to the train, it struck me that I'd seen that scene before.
A very memorable film. It must have been many a year ago that I saw it, or my memory is more shot than I've been letting on.
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https://www.pahomepage.com/news/lord-of-the-rings-hobbit-illustrator-dies-at-90-in-susquehanna-county/ (https://www.pahomepage.com/news/lord-of-the-rings-hobbit-illustrator-dies-at-90-in-susquehanna-county/)
“Lord of the Ringsâ€, “Hobbit†Illustrator Dies at 90 in Susquehanna County
THOMPSON, SUSQUEHANNA COUNTY (WBRE/WYOU-TV) Critically acclaimed local artist Barbara Remington has passed away at the age of 90.
Her illustrations inspired the imaginations of millions across the globe. But all that talent… Came from a small town in Susquehanna County.
Rachel Wargo, a teacher for Susquehanna Community School District reacted to the news. “It’s so crazy when you find out that something so big and worldly actually came out of a small town in Pennsylvania.â€
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“I think a lot of people in the area don’t realize that she lived here… The area itself, the people are friendly and nice. And helpful,†said Joseph Gosciewski of Herrick Center.
Remington passed away on Thursday. Friend and neighbor Doris Buchanan said Barbara was a one of a kind individual. Just as classic as her art pieces.
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Merging with the Obituary thread, as it's been over a week since Douglas' death.
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I actually did see him (in Buffalo) 2X and the shows were amazing. He may be a liberal, but No politics in his show, just singing.
A friend and I used to go every year to the annual Farm Aid show -- Willie is one of the stars behind the organization and he performs as the last act. The guy is in his 80s and he may not be as energetic as he used to be, but he still puts on a good show. And his bandmates are almost all longtime performers with him. His son, Lukas, who has his own band, performs with Willie and I think he's the youngest one there.
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Toronto Blue Jays legend Tony Fernandez dies at 57 (https://www.thestar.com/sports/baseball/2020/02/16/toronto-blue-jays-legend-tony-fernandez-dies-at-57.html)
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The 18-season MLB veteran, who spent a plurality of his time with the Toronto Blue Jays and was a member of the World Series-winning 1993 squad, was a four-time Golden Glove shortstop who appeared in the All-Star Game five times. He died February 15 following a three-year battle with polycystic kidney disease.
Career stats (https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/f/fernato01.shtml)
Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony_Fernández)
cc: @EasyAce
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@goatprairie
I couldn't remember watching "Last Train From Gun Hill" before. I watched it last nite and when watching the shootout scene at the end next to the train, it struck me that I'd seen that scene before.
A very memorable film. It must have been many a year ago that I saw it, or my memory is more shot than I've been letting on.
I first saw it when I was eight years old at a local movie theater. I didn't understand the racial or sexual element at that time. I certainly wasn't capable of understanding much about plot devices and acting either.
To me it was just another western, and I loved westerns. I don't even know how I got to see the flick at a movie theater. I guess my older brother might have gotten me in.
Nevertheless, warning: spoiler there's a scene in the movie where Earl Holliman and his pal rape and kill Kirk Douglas's Indian wife. Obviously, in those days little could be shown about those things in the movie theaters. There was one scene shown where Holliman and his pal rip the blouse off of Kirk's wife.
Of course, no nudity and no scenes of Holliman and his pal raping and killing her. But you can see from the rear her bare back.
So a few years later the movie showed up on NBC. Because of a one hour difference in Minn and Wisc
the movie was telecast in Eau Claire Wis. one hour ahead of the same telecast in Rochester, Minn. We got both NBC stations.
So my old man started watching the Wisc telecast by himself. He stopped watching it for some reason and left the room. I later realized he had viewed the (implied) rape scene and turned the tv off.
One hour later I came into the room and turned on the movie on the Rochester, Minn channel.
My father hearing the opening strains of the movie raced into the room and turned the tv off.
He obviously wasn't going to let any of his children see the bare back of some movie actor. I was still too young to understand anything about sex and rape, and the sight of a woman's bare back was hardly shocking even to an eleven year old boy. You could see plenty bare female backs at the local beach. I must admit the actress was quite good looking even to an eleven year old.
But my father wasn't going to let me led into temptation, no sirree bob.
Those were the days.
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Jason Davis
Child actor and heir to a billion-dollar fortune dies at 35
Davis, the grandson of oil baron Marvin Davis (the guy who owned 20th Century Fox before Rupert Murdoch bought it), found work as a child voice actor, including the speaking voice of Mikey Blumberg (not to be confused with mayor Michael Bloomberg) on the Saturday morning cartoon Recess. He continued to make sporadic acting appearances as an adult but by 2011 had lapsed into drug addiction, which landed him a spot on the reality show Celebrity Rehab.
Davis died February 16 of unknown causes.
Obituary from the Hollywood Reporter (https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/jason-davis-dead-grandson-marvin-barbara-davis-was-35-1279608)
Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jason_Davis_%28actor,_born_1984%29)
IMDB (https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0204771/)
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Jason Davis
Child actor and heir to a billion-dollar fortune dies at 35
Davis, the grandson of oil baron Marvin Davis (the guy who owned 20th Century Fox before Rupert Murdoch bought it), found work as a child voice actor, including the speaking voice of Mikey Blumberg (not to be confused with mayor Michael Bloomberg) on the Saturday morning cartoon Recess. He continued to make sporadic acting appearances as an adult but by 2011 had lapsed into drug addiction, which landed him a spot on the reality show Celebrity Rehab.
Davis died February 16 of unknown causes.
Obituary from the Hollywood Reporter (https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/jason-davis-dead-grandson-marvin-barbara-davis-was-35-1279608)
Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jason_Davis_%28actor,_born_1984%29)
IMDB (https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0204771/)
@jmyrlefuller
Sad to see someone go so young that had such a strong work ethic. He surely didn't have to be out hunting for jobs as a kid,but he was.
Addiction has no respect for anyone,though. If you are unfortunate enough to be born with that gene,you just can't drink or do drugs like all your
friends. Even one drink or hit is too much.
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I heard about this and this is more for the British but....
Caroline Flack: politicians condemn press intrusion after presenter's death
ITV says Sunday’s Love Island will not be broadcast as calls mount for regulation of traditional and social media
Politicians have condemned press intrusion, calling for more regulation of both traditional and social media after the death of TV presenter Caroline Flack.
The former Love Island presenter is understood to have taken her own life on Saturday at her home in Islington, London. She had been charged with assaulting her partner and was due to stand trial in several weeks’ time.
ITV confirmed that Sunday’s episode of Love Island would not be broadcast but the current series would continue on Monday.
Read more at: https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2020/feb/16/politicians-condemn-press-intrusion-after-caroline-flacks-death (https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2020/feb/16/politicians-condemn-press-intrusion-after-caroline-flacks-death)
So, it is said, she took her own life.
Was the journalism and the reporting that "she assaulted her partner" and was being taken to court a big reason Flack killed herself? She was lovely and this is unfortunate.
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Tony Fernandez, who won 4 straight Gold Gloves with the Blue Jays, dies at 57
By Associated Press Feb 16, 2020
Tony Fernández, a stylish shortstop who made five All-Star teams during his 17 seasons in the major leagues and helped the Toronto Blue Jays win the 1993 World Series, died Sunday after complications from a kidney disease. He was 57.
Fernández was taken off a life support system in the afternoon with his family present at a hospital in Weston, Florida, said Imrad Hallim, the director and co-founder of the Tony Fernández Foundation. Fernández had been in a medically induced coma and had waited years for a new kidneys.
Fernández won four straight Gold Gloves with the Blue Jays in the 1980s and holds club records for career hits and games played. A clutch hitter in five trips to the postseason, he had four separate stints with Toronto and played for six other teams.
Read more at: https://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/ct-tony-fernandez-toronto-blue-jays-dies-20200216-6f6vmyyoznbvxd4xwfzzpcmfy4-story.html (https://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/ct-tony-fernandez-toronto-blue-jays-dies-20200216-6f6vmyyoznbvxd4xwfzzpcmfy4-story.html)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony_Fern%C3%A1ndez (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony_Fern%C3%A1ndez) He was waiting for a kidney transplant since 2017, it sounds like the articles say.
Hall of Fame golfer Mickey Wright dies
Feb. 17, 2020
FORT LAUDERDALE, Fla. — Hall of Fame golfer Mickey Wright, who won 82 LPGA tournaments including 13 majors, died Monday of a heart attack, her attorney said. Wright was 85.
Attorney Sonia Pawluc said Wright had been hospitalized in Florida for the last few weeks after being injured in a fall.
(https://s.hdnux.com/photos/01/10/52/24/19047733/5/975x0.jpg)
FILE - In this July 1, 1961 file photo, Mickey Wright poses after winning her third Women's National Open golf championship, at the Baltusrol Golf Club at Springfield, N.J. Hall of Fame golfer Wright, who won 82 LPGA tournaments including 13 majors, died Monday, Feb. 17, 2020, of a heart attack, her attorney said. Wright was 85. (AP Photo/File)
Read more at: https://www.timesunion.com/sports/article/Hall-of-Fame-golfer-Mickey-Wright-dies-15063289.php (https://www.timesunion.com/sports/article/Hall-of-Fame-golfer-Mickey-Wright-dies-15063289.php)
There will be debate on who the best female golfer of all time is, but she does top some lists.
http://www.sportsmuntra.com/10-best-female-golfers-time/ (http://www.sportsmuntra.com/10-best-female-golfers-time/)
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I heard about this and this is more for the British but....
So, it is said, she took her own life.
Was the journalism and the reporting that "she assaulted her partner" and was being taken to court a big reason Flack killed herself? She was lovely and this is unfortunate.
@TomSea
Sadly,it almost seems to be a rule of nature that it is ALWAYS the wrong people who kill themselves on purpose.
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Hall of Fame golfer Mickey Wright, who won 82 LPGA tournaments including 13 majors,
YIKES!
THAT is impressive,I don't care who you are.
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Kellye Nakahara, 'M*A*S*H' star, dead at 72 (https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/kellye-nakahara-mash-star-dead)
Kellye Nakahara, who starred as Lieutenant Nurse Kellye Yamato on "M*A*S*H," has died, Fox News can confirm.
A family source said the artist and actress passed away peacefully on Sunday at her home in Pasadena, Calif., following a brief battle with cancer. She was surrounded by her close friends and family. She was 72.
"She was a tremendous wife, mother and she was a great friend to all who knew her. The world is going to miss her," the source said. "During her time with cancer, she always received letters from fans and everyone who watched 'M*A*S*H,' and she was always so shocked by all the love she received from those who loved Nurse Kellye . . .
The classic M*A*S*H episode featuring Nurse Kellye and Hawkeye Pierce . . .
M*A*S*H, "Hey, Look Me Over"
Error 404 (Not Found)!!1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MgmCCLExciQ#)
In real life, she was also quite a visual artist.
RIP Nurse Kellye . . .
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Apparently she was a Hollyweird rarity, an actor married to the same person for some 52 years. I don't think she was all that caught up in the "weird" of Hollyweird, "just" a regular working person (may her number multiply).
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Apparently she was a Hollyweird rarity, an actor married to the same person for some 52 years. I don't think she was all that caught up in the "weird" of Hollyweird, "just" a regular working person (may her number multiply).
@PeteS in CA
There are a lot of those people. They just live quiet lives away from work,and we never hear anything about them.
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Apparently she was a Hollyweird rarity, an actor married to the same person for some 52 years. I don't think she was all that caught up in the "weird" of Hollyweird, "just" a regular working person (may her number multiply).
@PeteS in CA
@sneakypete
I read about her once and discovered her first love was visual art, which she never gave up (http://www.woweventproductions.com/kellyes-art.html) even when she became an actress and M*A*S*H cast member and took on sporadic television and film roles in later years. (Her specialty was watercolours, and she signed her works with her married name, Kellye Wallett.) She had that in common with Anthony Quinn, a far bigger star, who had a passion for art and liked to visit foundries and studios when he traveled so he could work on pieces. Things like that keep you grounded whether you become a big star or a regular working actor/actress.
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Ja'net Dubois dies at age 74: Good Times actress, two-time Emmy winner and singer passes away in her sleep
By Sarah Sotoodeh For Dailymail.com
Published: 16:32 EST, 18 February 2020 | Updated: 16:45 EST, 18 February 2020
Ja'net Dubois has died at the age of 74 at her home in Glendale, California.
The actress, who played Willona Woods on the sitcom Good Times in the seventies, died unexpectedly in her sleep overnight, TMZ reported.
Ja'net, who has three children, was most recently seen at a fan event a few weeks ago and had not complained of any ailments recently. ...More at Daily Mail (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-8017937/Janet-Dubois-dies-age-74-Good-Times-actress-two-time-Emmy-winner-singer-passes-away.html)
(https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2020/02/18/21/24902574-8017937-image-a-20_1582061472760.jpg)
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Ja'net Dubois dies at age 74: Good Times actress, two-time Emmy winner and singer passes away in her sleep
By Sarah Sotoodeh For Dailymail.com
Published: 16:32 EST, 18 February 2020 | Updated: 16:45 EST, 18 February 2020
Ja'net Dubois has died at the age of 74 at her home in Glendale, California.
The actress, who played Willona Woods on the sitcom Good Times in the seventies, died unexpectedly in her sleep overnight, TMZ reported.
Ja'net, who has three children, was most recently seen at a fan event a few weeks ago and had not complained of any ailments recently. ...More at Daily Mail (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-8017937/Janet-Dubois-dies-age-74-Good-Times-actress-two-time-Emmy-winner-singer-passes-away.html)
(https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2020/02/18/21/24902574-8017937-image-a-20_1582061472760.jpg)
Awwww man, I liked her. She also sang The Jefferson's theme song.
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Good Times was rather silly, but I loved the Winona character. She was tough and sassy on the outside, but inside, seemed quite vulnerable.
Rest in peace, Miss Dubois.
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Ja'net was be'utiful.
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Ja'net was be'utiful.
Yeah. Not Bea'utiful..
(https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/p__/images/3/39/AuntBea.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20170630015424&path-prefix=protagonist)
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Yeah. Not Bea'utiful..
(https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/p__/images/3/39/AuntBea.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20170630015424&path-prefix=protagonist)
That's Aunt Bee. :tongue2:
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That's Aunt Bee. :tongue2:
Word was Aunt Bee (Frances Bavier) did not get along with the other actors on the show.
After the end of the show Andy Griffith went and visited her and tried to make peace with her.
From what I remember Bavier apologized and said she was sorry for any problems.
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Word was Aunt Bee (Frances Bavier) did not get along with the other actors on the show.
After the end of the show Andy Griffith went and visited her and tried to make peace with her.
From what I remember Bavier apologized and said she was sorry for any problems.
My understanding was she got along with Ronny Howard, but that's about it.
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https://www.pahomepage.com/news/lord-of-the-rings-hobbit-illustrator-dies-at-90-in-susquehanna-county/ (https://www.pahomepage.com/news/lord-of-the-rings-hobbit-illustrator-dies-at-90-in-susquehanna-county/)
“Lord of the Ringsâ€, “Hobbit†Illustrator Dies at 90 in Susquehanna County
Repeating, I do see it was mentioned, here's a bit more.
Barbara Remington, Illustrator of Tolkien Book Covers, Dies at 90
Her work for the 1965 paperback editions of “The Lord of the Rings†and “The Hobbit†achieved mass-cult status. But she hadn’t read the books when she got the job.
(https://static01.nyt.com/images/2020/02/14/obituaries/14Remington2/14Remington2-jumbo.jpg?quality=90&auto=webp)
Barbara Remington designed paperback covers for all three books of “The Lord of the Rings†without having read them. “I didn’t know what they were about,†she later admitted. “I had sketchy information at best.â€
By Julia Carmel
Published Feb. 15, 2020
Updated Feb. 17, 2020
Barbara Remington, the illustrator who created the most widely recognized covers for J.R.R. Tolkien’s “The Lord of the Rings†trilogy and “The Hobbit†— which she quickly executed before she even had the chance to read the books — died on Jan. 23 in Susquehanna, Pa. She was 90.
Her longtime friend John Bromberg said the cause was breast cancer.
Though the covers of the first editions of “The Lord of the Rings†had illustrations by various artists, including Tolkien himself, the ones that Ms. Remington created for the paperback versions published by Ballantine Books were the ones that achieved mass-cult status in the 1960s, particularly on college campuses.
Read more at: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/15/books/barbara-remington-dead.html (https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/15/books/barbara-remington-dead.html)
I'd think this rings a bell with a lot of people. Great art.
wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbara_Remington)
I'd like to see more of her work.
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Good Times was rather silly, but I loved the Willona [sic] character. She was tough and sassy on the outside, but inside, seemed quite vulnerable.
Rest in peace, Miss Dubois.
@Applewood
Something of the soul of Good Times departed when actor John Amos (James Evans) did, but Willona was always a kick, whether snarking at the local corrupt alderman as "Balderman Davis" or accepting a cup of coffee from Florida with, "I like my coffee the way I like my men---hot, black, and strong!"
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@Applewood
Something of the soul of Good Times departed when actor John Amos (James Evans) did, but Willona was always a kick, whether snarking at the local corrupt alderman as "Balderman Davis" or accepting a cup of coffee from Florida with, "I like my coffee the way I like my men---hot, black, and strong!"
That and "Dyyy-no-Miteeee were the only jokes I recall from that show.
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That and "Dyyy-no-Miteeee were the only jokes I recall from that show.
@verga
Yeah,JJ killed his career while the show was going by coming out of the closet as a Republican. Chances are he would have been fired if he weren't a key player in the show,and I don't think he has worked anywhere in show biz since it ended.
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Word was Aunt Bee (Frances Bavier) did not get along with the other actors on the show.
Since we were just talking about "Nurse Kellye" from M*A*S*H passing away, it may be noted that none of the actors on that show was fond of Gary Burghoff (little cuddly Radar). He was obnoxious to everyone on set, by all accounts.
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Since we were just talking about "Nurse Kellye" from M*A*S*H passing away, it may be noted that none of the actors on that show was fond of Gary Burghoff (little cuddly Radar). He was obnoxious to everyone on set, by all accounts.
@mountaineer
I never thought about it,but now that you mentioned him,I don't recall ever seeing him in anything else.
Truth to tell,seems like MASH killed a few careers. Only seen one cast member from that show on any other program since it ended. I guess some of them were too old for most starring roles when it ended,plus they were probably type-cast. That seems to be the curse of successful series for acting careers.
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@mountaineer
I never thought about it,but now that you mentioned him,I don't recall ever seeing him in anything else.
Truth to tell,seems like MASH killed a few careers. Only seen one cast member from that show on any other program since it ended. I guess some of them were too old for most starring roles when it ended,plus they were probably type-cast. That seems to be the curse of successful series for acting careers.
We've all the heard the stories of certain actors complaining about being typecast. For one thing, they should be happy they had the success they had given the fact that the great majority of actors never amount to anything as far as commerical success. There are far more failures in the acting profession than successes.
You can learn a musical instrument and make money strumming your guitar on some street corner, but few actors can make money doing Shakepeare on some sidewalk.
Clayton Moore was damn happy when he got the role of The Lone Ranger and he never regretted being seen as the ultimate Lone Ranger.
And to be sure, many actors are lucky they got the one role that gave them notoriety because their actual great acting abilities they perceived themselves as having was probably not that great.
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@mountaineer
I never thought about it,but now that you mentioned him,I don't recall ever seeing him in anything else.
Truth to tell,seems like MASH killed a few careers. Only seen one cast member from that show on any other program since it ended. I guess some of them were too old for most starring roles when it ended,plus they were probably type-cast. That seems to be the curse of successful series for acting careers.
Type cast? Just look at all the roles Jamie Farr was offered after MASH ended its run.
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Type cast? Just look at all the roles Jamie Farr was offered after MASH ended its run.
@skeeter
I don't remember seeing him in anything.
Granted,I am not a huge movie fan,so if he got movie roles I would have easily missed them.
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@skeeter
I don't remember seeing him in anything.
Granted,I am not a huge movie fan,so if he got movie roles I would have easily missed them.
Just joshin. There just aren't many roles out there for a hairy Lebanese guy in pearls and a sun dress.
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Just joshin. There just aren't many roles out there for a hairy Lebanese guy in pearls and a sun dress.
Farr was in AfterMASH for two seasons. So there's that.
But you're correct....not much more when that died.
Wayne Rogers became an investing expert after his acting career petered out and was on a FOX Business News show and some other things financial-wise.
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Just joshin. There just aren't many roles out there for a hairy Lebanese guy in pearls and a sun dress.
He had parts in the Cannonball Run movies, Scrooged, and off and on TV and film parts. I guess hes harder to recognize in guy clothes... :shrug:
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He had parts in the Cannonball Run movies, Scrooged, and off and on TV and film parts. I guess hes harder to recognize in guy clothes... :shrug:
@Smokin Joe
I bet you are too,you naughty boy! :tongue2:
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@mountaineer
I never thought about it,but now that you mentioned him,I don't recall ever seeing him in anything else.
Truth to tell,seems like MASH killed a few careers. Only seen one cast member from that show on any other program since it ended. I guess some of them were too old for most starring roles when it ended,plus they were probably type-cast. That seems to be the curse of successful series for acting careers.
The income they earned from the length of the show and the residuals pretty much guaranteed they would not have to work again unless they wanted to. Shows like Friends, ER, CSI, etc.... can really set their stars up for life. If they get "producer" credit like Tom Welling did for "Smallville" They never have to work again a day in their lives. Hopefully they don't drink it or put it up their noses and have good financial advisors to guide them in the right direction. Also the Coogan laws have done a great job of protecting the child stars over the years.
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@Smokin Joe
I bet you are too,you naughty boy! :tongue2:
If you ever saw me, I was either in guy clothes, or none at all.
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Truth to tell,seems like MASH killed a few careers. Only seen one cast member from that show on any other program since it ended. I guess some of them were too old for most starring roles when it ended,plus they were probably type-cast. That seems to be the curse of successful series for acting careers.
Allowing that the show ran eleven years, there may be some truth in that. (Alan Alda and Loretta Swit were the only members of the cast to appear in every season from beginning to end.) On the other hand . . .
* Wayne Rogers (Trapper John) had the last laugh when he was sued for breach of contract upon leaving after the third season---he'd never even signed a contract. He didn't like the language of the so-called "morals" clause in the contract. He starred subsequently in the 1979-1982 television hit House Calls, before a double second career as a television and film producer/writer and investment advisor.
* McLean Stevenson (Henry Blake) was apparently miffed at not having been M*A*S*H's star and decided to leave over that and what he considered 20th Century Fox's callousness toward simple comforts on location. His subsequent run of starring turns in short-lived TV shows turned him into something of an industry gag, unfortunately, typically being the critic who once created "The Annual McLean Stevenson Memorial 'I'm Gonna Quit This Show and Become a Big Star' Award." In time, Stevenson would admit that walking away from M*A*S*H was the biggest mistake of his life.
* Gary Burghoff, possibly the single most typecast member of the M*A*S*H ensemble, left the show not because of ego or standing but because a) he felt burned out and that the long hours work on the show kept him too much from his family; and, b) he'd become close to McLean Stevenson and didn't feel comfortable working without him as the years passed since Stevenson's departure. Mike Farrell (B.J. Hunnicutt) actually tried to talk Burghoff out of leaving, unsuccessfully, even citing Stevenson's and Larry Linville's (Frank Burns) tanking post-M*A*S*H careers in his effort.
* Larry Linville (Burns) quit for, apparently, a purely character reason: he thought he'd taken Frank Burns as far as the character could go after finishing his five-year contract, even though he was offered a new deal.
* Marcia Strassman (Nurse Cutler in the first season) left when she had a shot at a new comedy in the works---Welcome Back, Kotter. (Where she was miserable thanks to a little deviousness on the part of the show's producer---he'd told Strassman and series creator/star Gabe Kaplan separately that one despised the other; only later did Strassman learn from Kaplan himself that he actually liked working with her and wanted more focus on the couple's home life on the show and thus more work for Strassman on it.)
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Type cast? Just look at all the roles Jamie Farr was offered after MASH ended its run.
Not sure what you expected, Farr started his career about 1955 as a character actor and voice artist, Mash was his longest run in a series but after he continued working as a character and voice actor and never was a lead.
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Not sure what you expected, Farr started his career about 1955 as a character actor and voice artist, Mash was his longest run in a series but after he continued working as a character and voice actor and never was a lead.
Looking over his W'pedia bio, MASH seems to have been an exception in his career, which before and since was mostly piecing together bits and pieces here and there. Probably pretty typical for a character actor. He and his wife have been married since 1963, and he's 84 or 85. He's also been a donor to the R Party.
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Allowing that the show ran eleven years, there may be some truth in that. (Alan Alda and Loretta Swit were the only members of the cast to appear in every season from beginning to end.) On the other hand . . .
* Wayne Rogers (Trapper John) had the last laugh when he was sued for breach of contract upon leaving after the third season---he'd never even signed a contract. He didn't like the language of the so-called "morals" clause in the contract. He starred subsequently in the 1979-1982 television hit House Calls, before a double second career as a television and film producer/writer and investment advisor.
* McLean Stevenson (Henry Blake) was apparently miffed at not having been M*A*S*H's star and decided to leave over that and what he considered 20th Century Fox's callousness toward simple comforts on location. His subsequent run of starring turns in short-lived TV shows turned him into something of an industry gag, unfortunately, typically being the critic who once created "The Annual McLean Stevenson Memorial 'I'm Gonna Quit This Show and Become a Big Star' Award." In time, Stevenson would admit that walking away from M*A*S*H was the biggest mistake of his life.
* Gary Burghoff, possibly the single most typecast member of the M*A*S*H ensemble, left the show not because of ego or standing but because a) he felt burned out and that the long hours work on the show kept him too much from his family; and, b) he'd become close to McLean Stevenson and didn't feel comfortable working without him as the years passed since Stevenson's departure. Mike Farrell (B.J. Hunnicutt) actually tried to talk Burghoff out of leaving, unsuccessfully, even citing Stevenson's and Larry Linville's (Frank Burns) tanking post-M*A*S*H careers in his effort.
* Larry Linville (Burns) quit for, apparently, a purely character reason: he thought he'd taken Frank Burns as far as the character could go after finishing his five-year contract, even though he was offered a new deal.
* Marcia Strassman (Nurse Cutler in the first season) left when she had a shot at a new comedy in the works---Welcome Back, Kotter. (Where she was miserable thanks to a little deviousness on the part of the show's producer---he'd told Strassman and series creator/star Gabe Kaplan separately that one despised the other; only later did Strassman learn from Kaplan himself that he actually liked working with her and wanted more focus on the couple's home life on the show and thus more work for Strassman on it.)
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That's interesting. Thanks.
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Not sure what you expected, Farr started his career about 1955 as a character actor and voice artist, Mash was his longest run in a series but after he continued working as a character and voice actor and never was a lead.
I was kidding. No better way to be typecast than to be a guy who for ten years shows up in every shot in a dress & heels. I'm not a big TV watcher beyond the mid 70s I honestly wasn't aware of his rolls after the series.
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Jamie Farr had a baseball stadium named after him in Toledo. Not too shabby.
I saw him last year in a TV show “The Cool KIds†with Vicky Lawrence and Martin Mull.
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Larry Tesler
Inventor of the "cut, copy and paste" function dies at 74
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Obituary from the BBC (https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-51567695)
Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larry_Tesler)
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Larry Tesler
Inventor of the "cut, copy and paste" function dies at 74
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Obituary from the BBC (https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-51567695)
Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larry_Tesler)
Xerox PARC - research Xerox couldn't figure out how to make profitable, but Apple did (after its stumble with the Lisa).
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Larry Tesler
Inventor of the "cut, copy and paste" function dies at 74
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Obituary from the BBC (https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-51567695)
Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larry_Tesler)
God bless the man. Data transfers, especially in excel, have been made simple due to this one function alone, and editing is relatively easy because of it. RIP, sir, you have done the world a service.
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God bless the man. Data transfers, especially in excel, have been made simple due to this one function alone, and editing is relatively easy because of it. RIP, sir, you have done the world a service.
Lots of the basic features in Apple Mac and (later) MS Windows were invented/created by Xerox PARC (Palo Alto Research Center), but in those days Xerox had an inverse Midas touch - touching gold and turning it, ummmm, brown. GUIs probably played a very large role in moving computers from use by geekasoid life-forms to ordinary people.
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Dixie Crush Singer Lindsey Lagestee Dead at 25 After Being Hit by a Car
Elyse Dupre
https://www.msn.com/en-us/music/news/dixie-crush-singer-lindsey-lagestee-dead-at-25-after-being-hit-by-a-car/ar-BB10g1WF?OCID=ansmsnnews11 (https://www.msn.com/en-us/music/news/dixie-crush-singer-lindsey-lagestee-dead-at-25-after-being-hit-by-a-car/ar-BB10g1WF?OCID=ansmsnnews11)
I don't think she was well-known but none the less, a tragedy and a young life cut shot, rest in peace.
Another accident involving a car hitting someone, in this case, it sounds like the victim was not killed.
Meghan Trainor's Father Struck By Car in Hit-and-Run Accident
2/22/2020 by Hilary Hughes
Meghan Trainor's father is recovering from a hit-and-run accident in Los Angeles on Friday night (Feb. 21).
As TMZ first reported, Gary Trainor -- who accompanied his daughter to the 2016 Grammy Awards when she won best new artist, and played piano on a few of the tracks off her 2011 album, Only 17 -- was crossing the street in the San Fernando Valley when he was struck by a car. He was rushed to the hospital shortly thereafter, and a representative for the singer confirmed to Billboard that he's now in stable condition.
https://www.billboard.com/articles/news/8551686/meghan-trainor-dad-car-accident (https://www.billboard.com/articles/news/8551686/meghan-trainor-dad-car-accident)
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A US daredevil pilot has been killed during an attempted launch of a homemade rocket in the Californian desert.
"Mad" Mike Hughes, 64, crash-landed his steam-powered rocket shortly after take-off near Barstow on Saturday.
A video on social media shows a rocket being fired into the sky before plummeting to the ground nearby.
Hughes was well-known for his belief that the Earth was flat. He hoped to prove his theory by going to space.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-51602655 (https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-51602655)
www.youtube.com/watch?v=lLuBDojtefA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lLuBDojtefA#)
ETA: Not sure if he got high enough to learn the Earth is round, but he certainly did learn something about gravity.
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ETA: Not sure if he got high enough to learn the Earth is round, but he certainly did learn something about gravity.
To say the least.
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I think, this is the same guy who had been in the news before for building his own rocket.
'Mad' Mike Hughes dies after crash-landing homemade rocket
A US daredevil pilot has been killed during an attempted launch of a homemade rocket in the Californian desert.
"Mad" Mike Hughes, 64, crash-landed his steam-powered rocket shortly after take-off near Barstow on Saturday.
A video on social media shows a rocket being fired into the sky before plummeting to the ground nearby.
Read more at: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-51602655 (https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-51602655)
My condolences but what could be more dangerous??
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A US daredevil pilot has been killed during an attempted launch of a homemade rocket in the Californian desert.
"Mad" Mike Hughes, 64, crash-landed his steam-powered rocket shortly after take-off near Barstow on Saturday.
A video on social media shows a rocket being fired into the sky before plummeting to the ground nearby.
Hughes was well-known for his belief that the Earth was flat. He hoped to prove his theory by going to space.
ETA: Not sure if he got high enough to learn the Earth is round, but he certainly did learn something about gravity.
The meme I stole from a Bookface thread on this story:
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B. Smith, model-turned-TV personality, dead at 70
By Nate Day, Fox News
February 23, 2020 | 12:58pm
B. Smith, known for her modeling career and her television program “B. Smith With Style,†has died after fighting early-onset Alzheimer’s disease. She was 70.
Smith, whose full name was Barbara Smith, was married to Dan Gasby, who shared the news on Facebook on Sunday morning. ... Full story (https://pagesix.com/2020/02/23/b-smith-model-turned-tv-personality-dead-at-70/)
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The meme I stole from a Bookface thread on this story:
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True dat! @Cyber Liberty
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Katherine Johnson, NASA mathematician depicted in 'Hidden Figures,' dies at 101 (https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/katherine-johnson-nasa-mathematician-depicted-hidden-figures-dead-101-n1141566?fbclid=IwAR2lBmVlahTW7dLJ93-0uHHPVjN2HGrqf2CwHGRLO3OhNyyKWnDw4ZdmWzw)
Katherine Johnson, one of the NASA mathematicians depicted in "Hidden Figures," died Monday, the administrator of NASA said. She was 101.
Johnson "was an American hero and her pioneering legacy will never be forgotten," NASA administrator Jim Bridenstine wrote on Twitter.
Johnson was portrayed by Taraji P. Henson in the Oscar-nominated 2016 film about trailblazing black women whose work at NASA was integral during the Space Race.
The film also stars Octavia Spencer as mathematician Dorothy Vaughan and Janelle Monáe as engineer Mary Jackson.
Johnson began working at NASA's predecessor, the National Advisory Committee for Aeronautics’ in 1953 at the Langley laboratory in Virginia. In her role there, she did trajectory analysis for Alan Shepard’s 1961 mission Freedom 7, which was America’s first human spaceflight, according to NASA.
She was also the first woman in the Flight Research Division to receive credit as an author of a research report for her work with Ted Skopinski on detailing the equations describing an orbital spaceflight . . .
RIP to a brilliant lady.
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We just watched Hidden Figures again...... AMAZING story about an incredible group of women, but Katherine in particular.
I read that one of her daughters said that her Mom couldn't figure out what the fuss was about when she finally began getting the publicity she deserved.
She said she was just doing her job.
Her kind of brilliance combined with humility is a rare combination.
Rest in the Peace of your Savior, Katherine!
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We just watched Hidden Figures again...... AMAZING story about an incredible group of women, but Katherine in particular.
I read that one of her daughters said that her Mom couldn't figure out what the fuss was about when she finally began getting the publicity she deserved.
She said she was just doing her job.
Her kind of brilliance combined with humility is a rare combination.
Rest in the Peace of your Savior, Katherine!
@musiclady
If you haven't read the book, you should!
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@musiclady
If you haven't read the book, you should!
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You're right! I should!! 888high58888
(Thanks!)
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Katherine Johnson, NASA mathematician depicted in 'Hidden Figures,' dies at 101 (https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/katherine-johnson-nasa-mathematician-depicted-hidden-figures-dead-101-n1141566?fbclid=IwAR2lBmVlahTW7dLJ93-0uHHPVjN2HGrqf2CwHGRLO3OhNyyKWnDw4ZdmWzw)
RIP to a brilliant lady.
So these gals were America's equivalent, to Bletchley Park?
Great stories.
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@musiclady
If you haven't read the book, you should!
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I saw the movie (a couple of times) and plan on reading the book since I got a Kindle for my birthday and some free ebooks!
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@musiclady
If you haven't read the book, you should!
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I’m going to as well. RIP to a great lady.
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I saw the movie (a couple of times) and plan on reading the book since I got a Kindle for my birthday and some free ebooks!
I just ordered it from Amazon.
Shoulda done that a long time ago! happy77
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So these gals were America's equivalent, to Bletchley Park?
Great stories.
They count among the most talented code breakers we had at the time. We owe ‘em a lot.
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They count among the most talented code breakers we had at the time. We owe ‘em a lot.
Katherine Johnson was not a “code breakerâ€. She was however a brilliant mathematician who, during the early space program and before the large scale implementation of computers, hand calculated trajectories, launch windows and emergency return paths for Project Mercury spaceflights, including those for astronauts Alan Shepard, the first American in space, and John Glenn, the first American in orbit, and rendezvous paths for the Apollo Lunar Module and command module on flights to the Moon. Her calculations were also essential to the beginning of the Space Shuttle program.
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Katherine Johnson was not a “code breakerâ€. She was however a brilliant mathematician
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@Neverdul
Thanks,an important distinction.
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We just watched Hidden Figures again...... AMAZING story about an incredible group of women, but Katherine in particular.
I read that one of her daughters said that her Mom couldn't figure out what the fuss was about when she finally began getting the publicity she deserved.
She said she was just doing her job.
Her kind of brilliance combined with humility is a rare combination.
Rest in the Peace of your Savior, Katherine!
AMEN, well said.
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Former Egyptian president Hosni Mubarak dies
Former Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak – ousted by the military in 2011 – has died in Cairo at the age of 91.
Mubarak spent three decades in office before a popular uprising swept Egypt.
He was found guilty of complicity in the killing of protesters during the revolution. That conviction was overturned and was freed in March 2017.
Read more at: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-51630142 (https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-51630142)
"...ousted by the military in 2011" <---- I guess, this is the correct interpretation but I remember it too, it seemed everyone from the Obama administration to yes, Glen Beck, were saying he should step down and that was probably the wrong outlook as well. I'll have to read but I thought Mubarak caved in under pressure.
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@TomSea
Just about to post this. Thanks.
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Katherine Johnson was not a “code breakerâ€. She was however a brilliant mathematician who, during the early space program and before the large scale implementation of computers, hand calculated trajectories, launch windows and emergency return paths for Project Mercury spaceflights, including those for astronauts Alan Shepard, the first American in space, and John Glenn, the first American in orbit, and rendezvous paths for the Apollo Lunar Module and command module on flights to the Moon. Her calculations were also essential to the beginning of the Space Shuttle program.
My mistake. For some reason I thought Ms Johnson had begun at the OSS.
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"...ousted by the military in 2011" <---- I guess, this is the correct interpretation but I remember it too, it seemed everyone from the Obama administration to yes, Glen Beck, were saying he should step down and that was probably the wrong outlook as well. I'll have to read but I thought Mubarak caved in under pressure.
Fox News coverage:
Throughout his rule, Mubarak was a stalwart U.S. ally and a bulwark against Islamic militancy. But to the tens of thousands of young Egyptians who rallied for 18 days of unprecedented street protests in Cairo's central Tahrir Square and elsewhere in 2011, Mubarak was a relic, a latter-day pharaoh.
Nearly 900 protesters were killed during that stretch, which ended when Mubarak stepped down and handed over his power to the military.
Mubarak eventually was sentenced to life imprisonment for involvement in the killing of anti-government protesters during the uprising, but later was retried and subsequently acquitted and released in 2017.
https://www.foxnews.com/world/hosni-mubarak-egypts-former-autocratic-president-dead-at-91-report (https://www.foxnews.com/world/hosni-mubarak-egypts-former-autocratic-president-dead-at-91-report)
See, he handed over his power to the military. I don't quite buy that he was ousted by the military, that too, would seem to mean a "coup".
So, for a more "Middle Eastern" source:
Mubarak ruled Egypt for 30 years until he was ousted during the mass protests in 2011. He was one of the first leaders toppled during the Arab Spring uprising.
https://www.alaraby.co.uk/english/news/2020/2/25/former-egypt-president-hosni-mubarak-dead-at-91 (https://www.alaraby.co.uk/english/news/2020/2/25/former-egypt-president-hosni-mubarak-dead-at-91)
Middle East Eye:
The former air force commander first came to power in 1981 after the assassination of his predecessor Anwar Sadat, and ruled for 30 years until huge popular protests forced him from office.
https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/toppled-egyptian-president-hosni-mubarak-dies-state-tv (https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/toppled-egyptian-president-hosni-mubarak-dies-state-tv)
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Fox News coverage:
Throughout his rule, Mubarak was a stalwart U.S. ally and a bulwark against Islamic militancy. But to the tens of thousands of young Egyptians who rallied for 18 days of unprecedented street protests in Cairo's central Tahrir Square and elsewhere in 2011, Mubarak was a relic, a latter-day pharaoh.
See, he handed over his power to the military. I don't quite buy that he was ousted by the military, that too, would seem to mean a "coup".
So, for a more "Middle Eastern" source:
Middle East Eye:
Obama an his goons were chin deep in the "Arab Spring" destabilizing governments around the Med, and Mubarak was just one leader in the way.
Lest we forget, his replacement (Morsi) had connections to the Muslim Brotherhood (his wife was a member of the Muslim Sisterhood, an affiliated organization, along with Huma Abedin's mother).
This 'ousted by the military account' smooths over and conceals far more than it illuminates.
Mubarak's replacement was ousted by the military.
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Obama an his goons were chin deep in the "Arab Spring" destabilizing governments around the Med, and Mubarak was just one leader in the way.
Lest we forget, his replacement (Morsi) had connections to the Muslim Brotherhood (his wife was a member of the Muslim Sisterhood, an affiliated organization, along with Huma Abedin's mother).
This 'ousted by the military account' smooths over and conceals far more than it illuminates.
Mubarak's replacement was ousted by the military.
I appreciate the response. Thanks. @Smokin Joe
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Freeman Dyson, famed physicist and creative force, dies at 96
The UK scientist tackled quantum physics and nuclear politics and came up with the idea of Dyson spheres that span an entire solar system.
Freeman Dyson, a physicist, mathematician and author, has died at the age of 96. The UK scientist's ideas encompassed everything from the abstruse physics of quantum mechanics to enormous Dyson spheres that harvest the entire energy output of a sun. He posited the latter in 1960, long before it was featured in sci-fi settings like Star Trek: The Next Generation or when scientists started talking about alien megastructures.
The Institute for Advanced Study, his academic home in Princeton, New Jersey, for 60 years, announced Dyson's death Friday.
https://www.cnet.com/news/freeman-dyson-famed-physicist-and-creative-force-dies-at-96/ (https://www.cnet.com/news/freeman-dyson-famed-physicist-and-creative-force-dies-at-96/)
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Freeman Dyson, famed physicist and creative force, dies at 96
The UK scientist tackled quantum physics and nuclear politics and came up with the idea of Dyson spheres that span an entire solar system.
Freeman Dyson, a physicist, mathematician and author, has died at the age of 96. The UK scientist's ideas encompassed everything from the abstruse physics of quantum mechanics to enormous Dyson spheres that harvest the entire energy output of a sun. He posited the latter in 1960, long before it was featured in sci-fi settings like Star Trek: The Next Generation or when scientists started talking about alien megastructures.
The Institute for Advanced Study, his academic home in Princeton, New Jersey, for 60 years, announced Dyson's death Friday.
https://www.cnet.com/news/freeman-dyson-famed-physicist-and-creative-force-dies-at-96/ (https://www.cnet.com/news/freeman-dyson-famed-physicist-and-creative-force-dies-at-96/)
@Gefn
I really envy people like him. Pretty much every day of his life was exciting because he was doing EXACTLY what he was born to do,and learning something while doing it.
We should all be so lucky. EVERYBODY is born with some sort of "gift",but few of us ever get exposed to the right "trigger" that lets us know what it is. I knew a guy in VN that seemed to be so stupid you had to wonder how long it took him to learn how to tie his shoes and brush his teeth. He got drafted when he was 18 and sent to VN when he was 19,and that was when he found out he had a gift for languages. Within a few months his official army job was being done by someone else,and he was interviewing VN job applicants and supervising their work because he could speak to them in their own language.
Chances are if he had never been sent to VN he would have never discovered this "gift".
Frankly,I was a little impressed that he spoke and understood English. That boy had "Florida Man" written all over him.
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@Gefn
I really envy people like him. Pretty much every day of his life was exciting because he was doing EXACTLY what he was born to do,and learning something while doing it.
We should all be so lucky. EVERYBODY is born with some sort of "gift",but few of us ever get exposed to the right "trigger" that lets us know what it is. I knew a guy in VN that seemed to be so stupid you had to wonder how long it took him to learn how to tie his shoes and brush his teeth. He got drafted when he was 18 and sent to VN when he was 19,and that was when he found out he had a gift for languages. Within a few months his official army job was being done by someone else,and he was interviewing VN job applicants and supervising their work because he could speak to them in their own language.
Chances are if he had never been sent to VN he would have never discovered this "gift".
Frankly,I was a little impressed that he spoke and understood English. That boy had "Florida Man" written all over him.
My lifelong dream was to just sit on my ass, and retirement seems perfectly suited for that.
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@Gefn
I really envy people like him. Pretty much every day of his life was exciting because he was doing EXACTLY what he was born to do,and learning something while doing it.
We should all be so lucky. EVERYBODY is born with some sort of "gift",but few of us ever get exposed to the right "trigger" that lets us know what it is. I knew a guy in VN that seemed to be so stupid you had to wonder how long it took him to learn how to tie his shoes and brush his teeth. He got drafted when he was 18 and sent to VN when he was 19,and that was when he found out he had a gift for languages. Within a few months his official army job was being done by someone else,and he was interviewing VN job applicants and supervising their work because he could speak to them in their own language.
Chances are if he had never been sent to VN he would have never discovered this "gift".
Frankly,I was a little impressed that he spoke and understood English. That boy had "Florida Man" written all over him.
Seems there is a niche for most everyone, if they can just find it. In one of my 'breaks from the oil patch, I worked with a guy who was a little OCD in a warehouse, and it was great! Everything in its place...so you could pull stock in a heartbeat and never had to spend time looking all over for things.
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@Gefn
I really envy people like him. Pretty much every day of his life was exciting because he was doing EXACTLY what he was born to do,and learning something while doing it.
We should all be so lucky. EVERYBODY is born with some sort of "gift",but few of us ever get exposed to the right "trigger" that lets us know what it is. I knew a guy in VN that seemed to be so stupid you had to wonder how long it took him to learn how to tie his shoes and brush his teeth. He got drafted when he was 18 and sent to VN when he was 19,and that was when he found out he had a gift for languages. Within a few months his official army job was being done by someone else,and he was interviewing VN job applicants and supervising their work because he could speak to them in their own language.
Chances are if he had never been sent to VN he would have never discovered this "gift".
Frankly,I was a little impressed that he spoke and understood English. That boy had "Florida Man" written all over him.
@sneakypete he was an amazing man. Dyson spheres are pretty incredible. RIP
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Joe Coulombe, founder of popular Trader Joe’s markets, dies
LOS ANGELES (AP) — Joe Coulombe envisioned a new generation of young grocery shoppers emerging in the 1960s, one that wanted healthy, tasty, high-quality food they couldn’t find in most supermarkets and couldn’t afford to buy in the few high-end gourmet outlets.
So he found a new way to bring everything from a then-exotic snack food called granola to the California-produced wines that for flavor compared with anything from France. And he made shopping for them almost as much fun as sailing the high seas when he created Trader Joe’s, a quirky little grocery store filled with nautical themes and staffed not by managers and clerks but by “captains and mates.â€
From the time he opened his first store in Pasadena, California, in 1967 until his death Friday at age 89, Coulombe watched his namesake business rise from a cult favorite of educated but underpaid young people — and a few hippies — to a retail giant with more than 500 outlets in over 40 states.
https://apnews.com/7e58cf76e73aba70736081a06e2715fa
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I never went to Trader Joe’s until a few months ago. I’m pretty much hooked. It’s now my favorite grocery store.
RIP.
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@Gefn
My buddy lives close to a Trader Joe's, so when I go to visit her, I have to make a stop at TJ's. What I particularly like are TJ's British Muffins. They are English Muffins, but they're larger and thicker than the ones I would get at the local supermarket. TJ's also has a low sodium tomato soup with roasted red peppers. Alas, the peppers are few and far between, but I add mixed veggies and/or brown rice to the soup to make it more substantial.
What I like about Trader Joe's is that I can find products there that are "gourmet" and/or "healthy" but I don't have to pay outrageous prices for them. They don't carry the usual name brands, but their own brands are just as good as, if not better than, the big name items.
Rest in peace, Mr. Coulombe.
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@sneakypete Dyson spheres are pretty incredible. RIP
@Gefn,yeah,I'm going to have to take your word on that one.
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@sneakypete he was an amazing man. Dyson spheres are pretty incredible. RIP
Yes, he was. A visionary in many respects. RIP, indeed.
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@Gefn
My buddy lives close to a Trader Joe's, so when I go to visit her, I have to make a stop at TJ's. What I particularly like are TJ's British Muffins. They are English Muffins, but they're larger and thicker than the ones I would get at the local supermarket. TJ's also has a low sodium tomato soup with roasted red peppers. Alas, the peppers are few and far between, but I add mixed veggies and/or brown rice to the soup to make it more substantial.
What I like about Trader Joe's is that I can find products there that are "gourmet" and/or "healthy" but I don't have to pay outrageous prices for them. They don't carry the usual name brands, but their own brands are just as good as, if not better than, the big name items.
Rest in peace, Mr. Coulombe.
Their 9 dollar a pound Atlantic salmon is enough reason for me.
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@Gefn
My buddy lives close to a Trader Joe's, so when I go to visit her, I have to make a stop at TJ's. What I particularly like are TJ's British Muffins. They are English Muffins, but they're larger and thicker than the ones I would get at the local supermarket. TJ's also has a low sodium tomato soup with roasted red peppers. Alas, the peppers are few and far between, but I add mixed veggies and/or brown rice to the soup to make it more substantial.
What I like about Trader Joe's is that I can find products there that are "gourmet" and/or "healthy" but I don't have to pay outrageous prices for them. They don't carry the usual name brands, but their own brands are just as good as, if not better than, the big name items.
Rest in peace, Mr. Coulombe.
I don't shop TJ's but from what I've heard from former employees, they treat their people really well. So besides offering products people want at a price they'll pay, they're handling the other side of the operation, their people, right.
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I never went to Trader Joe’s until a few months ago. I’m pretty much hooked. It’s now my favorite grocery store.
RIP.
They do a top notch job, especially if you want to eat healthy.
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They do a top notch job, especially if you want to eat healthy.
I like Two-Buck Chuck.
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They do a top notch job, especially if you want to eat healthy.
Even if you don't wat to eat healthy, the store has some good junk food too.
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They do a top notch job, especially if you want to eat healthy.
I have to keep my salt intake down due to bp. Trader Joe has maybe the best selection of good tasting Low Sodium seasonings there are.
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I like Two-Buck Chuck.
I've always wanted to check that out, but the closest TJ's is in Pennsylvania, so it doesn't sell wine, alas.
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I've always wanted to check that out, but the closest TJ's is in Pennsylvania, so it doesn't sell wine, alas.
Same here, only there are some in minnesota, none in North or South Dakota, none in Montana. (IOW, the nearest is over 700 miles away)
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And I was whining about driving up to Henderson, NV....
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Same here, only there are some in minnesota, none in North or South Dakota, none in Montana. (IOW, the nearest is over 700 miles away)
Never seen a Trader Joe's' in my life. :shrug:
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Never seen a Trader Joe's' in my life. :shrug:
No Brownie Crisp Coffee Ice Cream Sandwiches for you.
I have two east and west of me each within 2 miles. Yeah baby.
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No Brownie Crisp Coffee Ice Cream Sandwiches for you.
I have two east and west of me each within 2 miles. Yeah baby.
Suits me fine. I don't even know what the hell that is. :shrug:
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Well, I might drive the coupla hours round trip to Henderson and buy a case of Two-Buck....
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No Brownie Crisp Coffee Ice Cream Sandwiches for you.
I have two east and west of me each within 2 miles. Yeah baby.
Trader Joe's has good food items, for reasonable prices.
I lived blocks away from a forerunner, called "Pronto Market in the late 50s/early 60s.
My brother and I went there for imprted beer in the early 70s/80s
My wife shops there regularly for fresh coffee, various items. Joe's pasta sauce. Fresh flowers, miilk, a lot like an old fashioned neighorhood grocery store.
Employees enjoy top pay. Neighborhoods literally go to the company and ask for stores.
Too bad about the founder. He set the cool vibe from the top, for decades.
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That New Orleans Mass Shooting in 1973 from atop a roof on a Howard Johnson's hotel is fairly well-known. This story behind it, is not. I didn't know about all of this. Lt. Charles Pitman, Excerpt:
Marine Pilot Who 'Borrowed' Helicopter to End Sniper Situation Has Died
...
...Pitman is better known for ignoring military protocol and breaking a bunch of regulations so he could save lives.
That was the thought process of then, Lieutenant Colonel Pitman. On Jan. 7, 1973, Pitman was the commander of the Marine Air Reserve Training in Louisiana. Pitman had turned on the television to see a horrible scene unfolding. A gunman had taken position on top of a hotel and was shooting and killing police officers. The sniper had a full view of all on comers, and any attempt to enter the hotel was met with murderous gunfire.
Pitman didn't even think twice about asking permission to help. He grabbed another pilot and two crew members and jumped in a CH-46 Sea Knight helicopter and headed toward New Orleans.
Article: https://www.military.com/daily-news/2020/02/19/marine-pilot-who-borrowed-helicopter-end-sniper-situation-has-died.html (https://www.military.com/daily-news/2020/02/19/marine-pilot-who-borrowed-helicopter-end-sniper-situation-has-died.html)
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@TomSea
Amazing story. Thanks for posting it.
I vaguely remember the Howard Johnson shooting rampage, but I guess I never paid attention to the details. This man was a true hero.
Rest in peace, Lt. General Pitman.
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Never seen a Trader Joe's' in my life. :shrug:
@roamer_1
That still puts you one up on me. I had never even heard of them until these posts.
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@TomSea
Amazing story. Thanks for posting it.
I vaguely remember the Howard Johnson shooting rampage, but I guess I never paid attention to the details. This man was a true hero.
Rest in peace, Lt. General Pitman.
@Applewood
Just like there are people born to paint,sing,and invent,there are people who are born to be warriors,and run to the sound of gunfire. With 4 DFC's,a Silver Star,and a Bronze Star,the General was definitely born to be a warrior.
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Well, I might drive the coupla hours round trip to Henderson and buy a case of Two-Buck....
I'm going to see whether there are any TJs other than in Pa. You all have me so intrigued about the 2 buck and the beers.
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I'm going to see whether there are any TJs other than in Pa. You all have me so intrigued about the 2 buck and the beers.
Real Belgian chocolate too.
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That New Orleans Mass Shooting in 1973 from atop a roof on a Howard Johnson's hotel is fairly well-known. This story behind it, is not. I didn't know about all of this. Lt. Charles Pitman, Excerpt:
Total BadASS
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Jack Welch, legendary former GE CEO, dead at age 84
Former chairman and CEO of industrial giant General Electric (GE) Jack Welch has died at the age of 84. His wife Suzy announced his death on Monday, according to CNBC.
Welch, at the peak of his career, ran GE, one of America’s most well-known companies, ruling over a global empire that had its hand in a plethora of industries from jet engines to healthcare.
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/jack-welch-legendary-former-ge-ceo-dead-at-age-84-134324399.html
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Very good article on the late Mubarak, he really seemed to be a very good leader.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-10709106 (https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-10709106)
Some countries are just going to need some heavy handedness, I hate to say, it be Philippines, Brazil and so on.
Jordan is probably as close to a peaceful country with a peaceful leader as you can have and yet, they still have a King.
When Sadat was assassinated, Mubarak was up on the platform as well, I believe he sustained a hand injury. Picture of that incident at link.
Also, a picture of him with Bush 41.
He was a fairly good leader. A number of articles have come out since his passing as well, dwelling on negatives.
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Very good article on the late Mubarak, he really seemed to be a very good leader.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-10709106 (https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-10709106)
Some countries are just going to need some heavy handedness, I hate to say, it be Philippines, Brazil and so on.
Jordan is probably as close to a peaceful country with a peaceful leader as you can have and yet, they still have a King.
When Sadat was assassinated, Mubarak was up on the platform as well, I believe he sustained a hand injury. Picture of that incident at link.
Also, a picture of him with Bush 41.
He was a fairly good leader. A number of articles have come out since his passing as well, dwelling on negatives.
Have to hand it to Sadat. He knew the only way to protect his family was to make sure they knew he was not wearing his vest, so they would shoot him and not blow up the car with his family in it.
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James Lipton, longtime 'Inside the Actors Studio' host, dies at 93: reports
James Lipton, the multi-talented familiar face who hosted "Inside the Actors Studio," has died at the age of 93, according to The Hollywood Reporter and The New York Times.
In addition to his role at the helm of the long-running Bravo series, Lipton was a prolific writer and producer. As an actor, he appeared most recently in the reboot of "Arrested Development, per IMDb.
His wife, Kedakai Mercedes Lipton, told the New York Times he died of bladder cancer.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/entertainment/celebrities/2020/03/02/james-lipton-dead-inside-the-actors-studio-host-93/4930426002/ (https://www.usatoday.com/story/entertainment/celebrities/2020/03/02/james-lipton-dead-inside-the-actors-studio-host-93/4930426002/)
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James Lipton, longtime 'Inside the Actors Studio' host, dies at 93: reports
James Lipton, the multi-talented familiar face who hosted "Inside the Actors Studio," has died at the age of 93, according to The Hollywood Reporter and The New York Times.
In addition to his role at the helm of the long-running Bravo series, Lipton was a prolific writer and producer. As an actor, he appeared most recently in the reboot of "Arrested Development, per IMDb.
His wife, Kedakai Mercedes Lipton, told the New York Times he died of bladder cancer.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/entertainment/celebrities/2020/03/02/james-lipton-dead-inside-the-actors-studio-host-93/4930426002/ (https://www.usatoday.com/story/entertainment/celebrities/2020/03/02/james-lipton-dead-inside-the-actors-studio-host-93/4930426002/)
I never saw “Inside the Actors Studio†but I am a fan of “Arrested Developmentâ€
RIP warden.
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Bob Cobert
Composer dies at 95
You may not recognize the name Bob Cobert, but you may recognize his work: as a film and television composer, Cobert wrote a number of theme songs and pieces of background music for numerous TV shows in the 1970s and 1980s, mostly game shows and horror. He had one pop hit, "Quentin's Theme," which Charles Randolph Grean turned into a hit in 1969.
Cobert died February 19 of pneumonia.
Obituary from Variety (https://variety.com/2020/music/news/bob-cobert-dead-dies-dark-shadows-winds-of-war-1203512992/)
Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Cobert)
IMDB (https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0006013/)
Error 404 (Not Found)!!1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4xx_TprBhM#)
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Bob Cobert
Composer dies at 95
You may not recognize the name Bob Cobert, but you may recognize his work: as a film and television composer, Cobert wrote a number of theme songs and pieces of background music for numerous TV shows in the 1970s and 1980s, mostly game shows and horror. He had one pop hit, "Quentin's Theme," which Charles Randolph Grean turned into a hit in 1969.
Specifically, "Quentin's Theme" hailed from the goth soap Dark Shadows . . .
The Charles Randolph Grean Sounde, "Quentin's Theme"
Error 404 (Not Found)!!1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4HQznTjRylI#)
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Specifically, "Quentin's Theme" hailed from the goth soap Dark Shadows . . .
The Charles Randolph Grean Sounde, "Quentin's Theme"
Error 404 (Not Found)!!1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4HQznTjRylI#)
The only durn soap worth watching on summer afternoons while stuck at my grandmas house.
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Rosalind P. Walter, the First 'Rosie the Riveter,' Is Dead at 95 (https://www.yahoo.com/news/rosalind-p-walter-first-rosie-130939586.html)
Rosalind P. Walter grew up in a wealthy and genteel Long Island, New York home. Yet when the United States entered World War II, she chose to join millions of other women in the homefront crusade to arm the troops with munitions, warships and aircraft.
She worked the night shift driving rivets into the metal bodies of Corsair fighter planes at a plant in Connecticut — a job that had almost always been reserved for men. A newspaper column about her inspired a morale-boosting 1942 song that turned her into the legendary Rosie the Riveter, the archetype of the hardworking women in overalls and bandanna-wrapped hair who kept the military factories humming.
Written by Redd Evans and John Jacob Loeb and popularized by the Four Vagabonds, the bandleader Kay Kyser and others, “Rosie the Riveter†captured a historical moment that helped sow the seeds of the women’s movement of the last half of the 20th century . . .
. . . But Rosie was just Walter’s first celebrated act. At her death on Wednesday at 95, she remained something of a public presence as a major philanthropist and one of PBS’ principal benefactors, her name intoned with others on programming like Great Performances, American Masters, PBS NewsHour, Nature and documentaries by Ken and Ric Burns.
She was the largest individual supporter of WNET in New York, helping to finance 67 shows or series starting in 1978.
Her friend Richard Somerset-Ward said she died at her home in Manhattan . . .
RIP.
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Rosalind P. Walter, the First 'Rosie the Riveter,' Is Dead at 95 (https://www.yahoo.com/news/rosalind-p-walter-first-rosie-130939586.html)
RIP.
The other equally critical half of the Greatest Generation.
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Rosalind P. Walter, the First 'Rosie the Riveter,' Is Dead at 95 (https://www.yahoo.com/news/rosalind-p-walter-first-rosie-130939586.html)
RIP.
@EasyAce
She was truly a great woman,and a great American as well. It was men and women like her that made America the great place it used to be.
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Yep. RIP Rosie!
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@EasyAce
She was truly a great woman,and a great American as well. It was men and women like her that made America the great place it used to be.
:thumbsup:
IMHO, anyone who did anything during WW II served. Didn't matter if they were military or civilian. They were all heroes. They came together to fight a global evil. Unfortunately, we don't see that level of cooperation today. When there is a calamity or a crisis, we have too may whiners, complainers and finger pointers.
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Rosalind P. Walter, the First 'Rosie the Riveter,' Is Dead at 95 (https://www.yahoo.com/news/rosalind-p-walter-first-rosie-130939586.html)
RIP.
She sets about her work vigorously; her arms are strong for her tasks. - Proberbs 31:17
RIP Rosie
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My grandmother did the wiring for the P51's at Curtiss Wright in St. Louis during the war.
RIP Rosie.
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My mother died Jan. 16, age 95. She and my grandfather worked on wartime aircraft production at "Vultee," later to become Convair.
Downey, Long Beach, CA etc.
....eventually present day Boeing.
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My mother died Jan. 16, age 95. She and my grandfather worked on wartime aircraft production at "Vultee," later to become Convair.
Downey, Long Beach, CA etc.
....eventually present day Boeing.
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Our condolences, @truth_seeker.
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Our condolences, @truth_seeker.
This thread got me looking for the specifics of her (and my grandfather's) wartime work at Vultee.
The US built wartime machines from San Diego to Seattle, and from Oakland to the Atlantic coast.
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AFP news agency
@AFP
#BREAKING Former UN chief Javier Perez de Cuellar dead at 100: son
https://twitter.com/AFP/status/1235398122299219968
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Javier_P%C3%A9rez_de_Cu%C3%A9llar
So, he was from Peru.
My condolences to any bereaved.
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The US built wartime machines from San Diego to Seattle, and from Oakland to the Atlantic coast.
@truth_seeker
And a lot of companies did particular wartime manufacturing that you might not have expected them to do if you knew who they were and what they did.
Case in point: the Chicago Flexible Shaft Company. They were founded as an animal-trimming concern and branched into home appliances and gardening by the 1920s. When the U.S. entered World War II, just a few months passed before the company ceased all its normal manufacturing and began making munitions.
After the war ended, they reverted to their usual manufacturing, now dominated by home appliances and the gardening implements to a lesser extent, but---in honour of the division which was its most profitable---renamed itself in 1946.
You may have heard of them: Sunbeam.
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@EasyAce
While Dad was a GI in Europe and North Africa, Mom worked for the now-defunct Federal Enameling Company. She had started there right out of high school. The company made, among other things, enamel cookware -- pots and pans and such. At the beginning of WWII, my mother was on the assembly line making tea and coffee pots which went to the military. But by around the end of '42 or the beginning of '43, the factory was converted into making specific items for the military. Not sure what those items were, but they weren't pots and pans. LOL
This is what I meant about everyone serving during World War II, whether on the battlefield or in the factories or volunteering for the Red Cross, or putting on shows for the USO, or buying war bonds. Whatever a person did to benefit the fight against the enemies, these people were heroes. They served.
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@truth_seeker
After the war ended, they reverted to their usual manufacturing, now dominated by home appliances and the gardening implements to a lesser extent, but---in honour of the division which was its most profitable---renamed itself in 1946.
You may have heard of them: Sunbeam.
WWII history played very much for me, growing up, and thereafter.
Before enlisting in the USMC, my father worked on building the Heart Mountain "Relocation Center (internment), near Cody Wyoming.
SoCal is literally covered, with WWII military facillities. From San Diego to Ventura. And Pac Ocean to Colorado River.
Many remain. Now pressed into roles for Virus. Matthews AFB, Miramar NAS. "John Wayne Airport SNA, is a former military facility.
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Former Rep. Amo Houghton (RINO-NY) dies at 93
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/88/Amo_Houghton_108th_Congress.jpg)
Born into old money in 1926, Houghton was fifth-generation heir to Corning Incorporated and, after an elite private school education, a brief stint in the armed forces (serving in the Caribbean during World War II) and obtaining a Harvard degree, he joined the family business in 1951. Within ten years, he was company president, a position he parlayed into seats on numerous other major corporate boards of directors.
From 1986 to 2004, Houghton represented the southern tier of New York in Congress. Nominally a Republican, very little of his record actually reflected anything Republicans stood for at the time, voting against the Iraq war, voting against Bill Clinton's impeachment on all counts, consistently pro-abortion, and wildly inconsistent on fiscal issues. In his later life, he was firmly in the Never Trump camp and at the time of his death was trying to get Trump removed from office.
Obituary from The New York Times (https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/05/nyregion/amory-houghton-jr-dead.html)
Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amo_Houghton)
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RIP Rosie
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World’s First Cloned Cat ‘CC’ Lived ‘Long, Normal, Happy Life’ Before Her Death
COLLEGE STATION, Texas (CBSDFW.COM) – The world’s first cloned cat named “Copy Cat†or “CC†for short, has passed away at the age of 18 after veterinarians diagnosed her with kidney failure.
CC passed away on March 3 in College Station, the same place where her life began as a result of groundbreaking cloning work, according to Megan Myers, Texas A&M College of Veterinary Medicine & Biomedical Sciences.
She was born Dec. 22, 2001, and was adopted by Dr. Duane Kraemer, a senior professor in the college’s Reproduction Sciences Laboratory, and his wife, Shirley, six months after her birth.
https://dfw.cbslocal.com/2020/03/04/worlds-first-cloned-cat-cc-lived-long-normal-happy-life-before-her-death/
@Cyber Liberty @Hopalong Ginsberg
888cryingkitty
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RIP Rosie
We also have a neice that served 12 years in the Air Force before leaving to have a family with her vet husband.
We have another neice that is in HS ROTC, and a great neice just entering Texas National Guard.
My uncle was caarer Army officer, and my cousin, his daughter, wed a career Army officer.
Really, really too bad this topic of "Rosie the Riveter," so symbolic of generations of Americans, draws zero attention, while the normal
TDS #nevertrump BS dominates.
Really, really too bad.
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World’s First Cloned Cat ‘CC’ Lived ‘Long, Normal, Happy Life’ Before Her Death
COLLEGE STATION, Texas (CBSDFW.COM) – The world’s first cloned cat named “Copy Cat†or “CC†for short, has passed away at the age of 18 after veterinarians diagnosed her with kidney failure.
CC RIP.
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@Gefn
Didn't realize it had been 18 years since. I remembered when CC's successful cloning was announced and wondered what had happened to her. Glad she had a long and good life. Rest in peace, little girl.
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@Gefn
Didn't realize it had been 18 years since. I remembered when CC's successful cloning was announced and wondered what had happened to her. Glad she had a long and good life. Rest in peace, little girl.
@Applewood
I was amazed when it happened,and honestly figured she wouldn't live very long because the tech was so new,and she was the first. I then heard nothing more about her until today. 18 years is good,and I am glad she made it that long.
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@Applewood
I was amazed when it happened,and honestly figured she wouldn't live very long because the tech was so new,and she was the first. I then heard nothing more about her until today. 18 years is good,and I am glad she made it that long.
As I recall Dolly the Sheep only lived about 6 years. Normal lifespan is between 10-12 years.
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McCoy Tyner, Jazz Piano Powerhouse, Is Dead at 81
Mr. Tyner, who first attracted wide notice as a member of John Coltrane’s groundbreaking quartet, influenced virtually every pianist in jazz (https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/06/arts/music/mccoy-tyner-dead.html)
McCoy Tyner, a cornerstone of John Coltrane’s groundbreaking 1960s quartet and one of the most influential pianists in jazz history, has died. He was 81.
His death was announced on his Facebook page, which gave no further details.
Along with Bill Evans, Herbie Hancock, Chick Corea and only a few others, Mr. Tyner was one of the main expressways of modern jazz piano. Nearly every jazz pianist since Mr. Tyner’s years with Coltrane has had to learn his lessons, whether they ultimately discarded them or not.
Mr. Tyner’s manner was modest, but his sound was rich, percussive and serious, his lyrical improvisations centered by powerful left-hand chords marking the first beat of the bar and the tonal center of the music . . .
And he was excellent whenever he recorded and played as a leader himself . . .
McCoy Tyner, "Blues on the Corner"
Error 404 (Not Found)!!1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQFZNm7JGqg#)
McCoy Tyner, "Blues for Gwen"
Error 404 (Not Found)!!1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WpF5Iuz1ulI#)
. . . not to mention having a whack at a classic Coltrane entry with an excellent guitarist plus his Coltrane teammate Elvin Jones drumming . . .
Grant Green, "My Favourite Things"
Error 404 (Not Found)!!1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fnk3dLXnHiY#)
RIP Mr. Tyner. The John Coltrane Classic Quartet is now together again in heaven . . .
John Coltrane, "Impressions"
Error 404 (Not Found)!!1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-mZ54FJ6h-k#)
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Oh no, first Lyle Mays now McCoy Tyner.
Bad month for pianists.
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Max Von Sydow: The Exorcist and Flash Gordon actor dies aged 90
https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-51803195 (https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-51803195)
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Great actor. Versatile. Surprised he never won an Oscar.
Rest in peace.
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Max Von Sydow: The Exorcist and Flash Gordon actor dies aged 90
https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-51803195 (https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-51803195)
Oh wow. The Exorcist was the scariest movie I ever saw. And I only saw a little bit of it.
And The Simpson’s had a very nice tribute card to James Lipton last night.
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He was actually Jesus Christ in the "Greatest Story Ever Told"? I think that is one of the best movies of that genre.
Even if that Christ had relatively short hair. One of the most reverential renditions of Christ imho.
(http://content.internetvideoarchive.com/content/photos/000/000001_16.jpg)
I know, Von Snydow was in lots of movies.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Max_von_Sydow (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Max_von_Sydow) Filmography listed.
1969, <a href=
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Kremlin_Letter (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Kremlin_Letter)"> The Kremlin Letter, [/url] sounds good.
Check this little bit from wikipedia:
Von Sydow was reported to be either an agnostic[10] or an atheist.[22] In 2012, he told Charlie Rose in an interview that Ingmar Bergman had told him he would contact him after death to show him that there was a life after death. When Rose asked von Sydow if he had heard from Bergman, he replied that he had, but chose not to elaborate further on the exact meaning of this statement. In the same interview, he described himself as a doubter in his youth, but stated this doubt was gone, and indicated he came to agree with Bergman's belief in the afterlife.[23]
:pondering:
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Max Von Sydow: The Exorcist and Flash Gordon actor dies aged 90
https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-51803195 (https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-51803195)
The Seventh Seal was an interesting, albeit strange movie.
RIP Max. You made us Americans of Swedish descent proud.
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a younger Max Von Sydow, was the male lead in the movie about Swedish immigrants in Minnesota, titled "The Emigrants" Trail with femle lead Liv Ullman.
Karl Oskar and Kristina.
Error 404 (Not Found)!!1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AQ4UvOczjnw#)
About the four book series, including The Emigrants
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Emigrants_(novel_series) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Emigrants_(novel_series))
The author
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vilhelm_Moberg (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vilhelm_Moberg)
http://archive.northwoodsandwaters.org/story/the-carl-and-lena-kajsa-linn-house-a-k-a-the-karl-oskar-house/ (http://archive.northwoodsandwaters.org/story/the-carl-and-lena-kajsa-linn-house-a-k-a-the-karl-oskar-house/)
Lena Kasja is Moberg's sinspiration for his lead female, Kristina.
In real life, Lena Kasja was the older, 1/2 sister of my great grandmother.
Lena Kasja had traveled from Sweden to Minnesota, per the book, with her husband Karl Oscar
My greatgrandmoother and a sister, came years later. Lena Kasja's mother had died young. So her father, Jonas Petersson Falk, remairried, had to more daughters, and came to America to be with his older children.
Author Vilhem Moberg came to America in 1948, inspired that he and many Swedes, had relatives in the Minnesota region. Moberg, already a successful Swedish author, wanted to tell their story.
He lived in the Chisage Lakes area, riding his bicycle around. He came to be well known, for his presence, and interviewing people about the stories.
Later in Moberg's life, he lived in Carmel California and Laguna Beach, where he continued writing.
Still later he returned to Sweden where he drowned possibly suicide.
He was a notable voice against Nazism, the USSR, etc.
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a younger Max Von Sydow, was the male lead in the movie about Swedish immigrants in Minnesota, titled "The Emigrants" Trail with femle lead Liv Ullman.
Karl Oskar and Kristina.
Error 404 (Not Found)!!1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AQ4UvOczjnw#)
Loved the books. Loved the movie.
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Lyle Waggoner
Actor dies at 84
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fc/Lyle_Waggoner_Wonder_Woman.jpg/220px-Lyle_Waggoner_Wonder_Woman.jpg)
Waggoner is most famous for his seven-year run as announcer and cast member on The Carol Burnett Show from 1967 to 1974. He left Burnett in an effort to become a leading actor but never achieved that, mainly serving as a guest actor (including multiple appearances on The Love Boat and Fantasy Island as separate characters) other than his second-best-known role, that of Steve Trevor, on Wonder Woman in the 1970s. He also had a side business, Star Waggons, that customized tour buses. Notably, Waggoner was the first nude centerfold in Playgirl magazine.
Waggoner died this morning from cancer.
Obituary from TMZ (https://www.tmz.com/2020/03/17/lyle-waggoner-carol-burnett-show-star-dead-dies-84/)
IMDB (https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0905741/)
Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lyle_Waggoner)
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McCoy Tyner, Jazz Piano Powerhouse, Is Dead at 81
Mr. Tyner, who first attracted wide notice as a member of John Coltrane’s groundbreaking quartet, influenced virtually every pianist in jazz (https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/06/arts/music/mccoy-tyner-dead.html)
And he was excellent whenever he recorded and played as a leader himself . . .
McCoy Tyner, "Blues on the Corner"
Error 404 (Not Found)!!1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQFZNm7JGqg#)
McCoy Tyner, "Blues for Gwen"
Error 404 (Not Found)!!1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WpF5Iuz1ulI#)
. . . not to mention having a whack at a classic Coltrane entry with an excellent guitarist plus his Coltrane teammate Elvin Jones drumming . . .
Grant Green, "My Favourite Things"
Error 404 (Not Found)!!1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fnk3dLXnHiY#)
RIP Mr. Tyner. The John Coltrane Classic Quartet is now together again in heaven . . .
John Coltrane, "Impressions"
Error 404 (Not Found)!!1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-mZ54FJ6h-k#)
@EasyAce
Don't forget the Jazztet (Killer Joe).
:cool:
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Stuart Whitman
Actor dies at 92
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fe/Stuart_Whitman_in_The_Longest_Day_(publicity_still).jpg/210px-Stuart_Whitman_in_The_Longest_Day_(publicity_still).jpg)
Whitman was a leading actor for 20th Century Fox in the 1950s and 1960s and also starred in television at the same time. He was particularly known for his war films (The Longest Day, The Day and the Hour) and Westerns (Rio Conchos and the TV series Cimarron Strip), later deciding a lead role on television was too confining. He continued to act until 2000.
Whitman died from complications of skin cancer March 16.
Obituary from The Hollywood Reporter (https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/stuart-whitman-dead-cimarron-strip-mark-star-was-92-1033764)
Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stuart_Whitman)
IMDB (https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0926183/)
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Stuart Whitman
Actor dies at 92
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fe/Stuart_Whitman_in_The_Longest_Day_(publicity_still).jpg/210px-Stuart_Whitman_in_The_Longest_Day_(publicity_still).jpg)
Whitman was a leading actor for 20th Century Fox in the 1950s and 1960s and also starred in television at the same time. He was particularly known for his war films (The Longest Day, The Day and the Hour) and Westerns (Rio Conchos and the TV series Cimarron Strip), later deciding a lead role on television was too confining. He continued to act until 2000.
Whitman died from complications of skin cancer March 16.
Obituary from The Hollywood Reporter (https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/stuart-whitman-dead-cimarron-strip-mark-star-was-92-1033764)
Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stuart_Whitman)
IMDB (https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0926183/)
Man had no idea he was still with us. RIP
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Lyle Waggoner
Actor dies at 84
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Waggoner died this morning from an unspecified illness. It is not known whether the coronavirus was a factor in his death based on current information.
My rant: Does then media have to always mention the coronavirus even in an obituary where it's not known whether this virus caused or contributed to the decedent's death? Sheesh! It's like these so-called journalists are being paid extra every time they use the word "coronavirus."
Rant done.
As to Mr. Waggoner: Sorry to hear of his passing. He was basically the straight man while the rest of the Carol Burnett cast was doing the gags. That takes some good acting.
Sorry he never made it as a leading man. He surely had the looks for it.
Rest in peace, Mr. Waggoner.
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My rant: Does then media have to always mention the coronavirus even in an obituary where it's not known whether this virus caused or contributed to the decedent's death? Sheesh! It's like these so-called journalists are being paid extra every time they use the word "coronavirus."
Rant done.
That was me. (I usually write the summaries with my own prose, using others' obits and biographies as a source.) Forgive me, but it is a pertinent topic and, barring any comment from the authorities or family, worth noting given the circumstances.
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Vittorio Gregotti, Modernist Architect, Dies in Pandemic at 92
Vittorio Gregotti, an Italian modernist architect, theorist and city planner whose monumental projects included opera houses, arenas — like Barcelona’s Olympic Stadium — and even an entire suburb, died on Sunday at a hospital in Milan. He was 92.
Mr. Gregotti had been infected by the coronavirus and died of pneumonia, according to Michele Reginaldi, a former partner at his firm. Mr. Gregotti’s wife, Marina Mazza, was hospitalized with Covid-19, the disease caused by the virus, Italian news reports said.
As of Monday, Italy had recorded more than 24,700 confirmed cases of Covid-19 — the most outside of China — with more than 1,800 of them fatal.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/16/arts/vittorio-gregotti-dies.html (https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/16/arts/vittorio-gregotti-dies.html)
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That was me. (I usually write the summaries with my own prose, using others' obits and biographies as a source.) Forgive me, but it is a pertinent topic and, barring any comment from the authorities or family, worth noting given the circumstances.
His death was due to cancer, the family said.
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Roger Mayweather
Former world champion boxer and Floyd's uncle dies at 58
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/58/Roger_Mayweather.jpg/220px-Roger_Mayweather.jpg)
Mayweather at various times held IBO, WBA and WBC world titles in the super-featherweight, light welterweight and welterweight divisions during the 1980s, amassing a 59-13 record over the course of his career. In the late 1990s, with his nephew Floyd Mayweather Jr. beginning his boxing career, Roger acted as Floyd's trainer. Floyd went on to an undefeated 50-0 record, one of the greatest boxers of all time, under both Roger and his brother Floyd Sr., also a prominent boxer (as was their brother Jeff).
Roger died March 17 following a several-year-long battle with diabetes and punch-drunk syndrome.
Obituary from TMZ (https://www.tmz.com/2020/03/17/floyd-mayweather-uncle-roger-mayweather-dead-58-trainer/)
Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_Mayweather)
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His death was due to cancer, the family said.
Revised accordingly. Thank you.
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Sorry, @jmyrlefuller I thought it came from an obit writer. Feel free to give me this: ****slapping or this: 22222frying pan
Anyway, thank you for the correction.
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Stuart Whitman
Actor dies at 92
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fe/Stuart_Whitman_in_The_Longest_Day_(publicity_still).jpg/210px-Stuart_Whitman_in_The_Longest_Day_(publicity_still).jpg)
Whitman was a leading actor for 20th Century Fox in the 1950s and 1960s and also starred in television at the same time. He was particularly known for his war films (The Longest Day, The Day and the Hour) and Westerns (Rio Conchos and the TV series Cimarron Strip), later deciding a lead role on television was too confining. He continued to act until 2000.
Whitman died from complications of skin cancer March 16.
Obituary from The Hollywood Reporter (https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/stuart-whitman-dead-cimarron-strip-mark-star-was-92-1033764)
Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stuart_Whitman)
IMDB (https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0926183/)
And passed on from complications of skin cancer of all things, well, great actor, great films.
We love the sun but this happens, I know in states with a lot of sun.
It'd be nice if Westerns still owned Prime Time.
Error 404 (Not Found)!!1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8VpOQfI20E#)
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Catherine Hamlin: Grief in Ethiopia as trailblazing Australian doctor dies
Getty images at link.
No-one came to meet Catherine Hamlin the day she arrived at a tiny airport in Ethiopia in 1959.
More than 60 years later, the news of the Australian gynaecologist’s death at the age of 96 was met with an outpouring of grief in the country she had made her home.
That is because of the work Dr Hamlin - along with her late husband, Reginald - did transforming and, in some cases, saving the lives of tens of thousands of women who had been cast out of their communities.
Read more at: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-51965688 (https://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-51965688)
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Former Tibetan Political Prisoner Tashi Phuntsok Dies at 60
2020-03-19
Former political prisoner Tashi Phuntsok, 60, has died in Lithang (in Chinese, Litang) county, a Tibetan region in Sichuan province, where the monk had staged protests against deforestation by China and suffered beatings in jail, an exile source told RFA.
“He was severely beaten while in prison and he became chronically ill after release from jail. He passed away on March 17th in Lithang county,†said Geshi Tsering Dorjee from Drepung Gongpa Monastery in southern India.
The International Campaign for Tibet (ICT) said three of his close aides now living in exile had confirmed his death, giving the date as March 16.
Read more at: https://www.rfa.org/english/news/tibet/monk-death-03192020213222.html (https://www.rfa.org/english/news/tibet/monk-death-03192020213222.html)
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Kenny Rogers
Former First Edition frontman turned country singer dies at 81
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/8c/KennyRogers.jpg/220px-KennyRogers.jpg)
Rogers had a musical career spanning 60 years. In his early years he waffled between a number of different genera, including doo-wop ("That Crazy Feeling"), jazz (as a member of Bobby Doyle's combo) and folk (as a replacement bassist for the New Christy Minstrels). In 1966, several of the Minstrels, including Rogers, split off to form The First Edition, which began as a psychedelic rock band (see "Just Dropped In (to See What Condition My Condition Was In)") but soon evolved into a country/western rock ensemble.
When the First Edition disbanded in 1976, western songs remained a regular part of Rogers's repertoire, and his signature song "The Gambler" remains his most well-known. In the 1980s, he reinvented himself as a country-pop love song artist with songs such as "Lady" and "You Decorated My Life." He continued to chart country hits through 2004's "I Can't Unlove You." Overall, 20 of Rogers's songs reached the top of the country charts.
In addition to music, he was the namesake of a short-lived chicken restaurant franchise, Kenny Rogers Roasters. He occasionally acted, including a role in the film Six Pack and several TV-movie adaptations of his own songs.
Rogers died March 20 of natural causes.
Obituary from Variety (https://variety.com/2020/music/obituaries-people-news/kenny-rogers-dead-dies-1203541233/)
Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenny_Rogers)
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Wow, that's a shocker... I did not know but see even on youtube, some songs by him before the New Christy Minstrels and the First Edition, he had a very long career. Rest in peace, thanks for the "Gambler" and the many other songs you performed.
1958, 'For You Alone", I had no idea he sang that long ago:
Error 404 (Not Found)!!1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-CikB6J0p8#)
His singing with Dolly Parton of course, is music legend and was a hugely successful partnership, I'm sure she will comment.
Decent cover of "Love Is Strange":
Error 404 (Not Found)!!1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4kIc7ARl4HE#)
He also sang with Dottie West, whom I am a bit of a fan of. I think the wikipedia entry on Dottie West indicates, Kenny did some of this with Dottie to help jump start her career after it was having problems:
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Some of his music, his hits really were for the commercial market, some I'm a bit indifferent to but you can't argue with success.
Another duet, with Kim Carnes, "Don't Fall In Love With A Dreamer":
Error 404 (Not Found)!!1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDWJQxl_upg#)
Boy, Dolly still looks good from pictures I've seen of her.
That song "Ruby, Don't take your love to town", that really is a very, very good song.
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RIP The Gambler. Like that song. He had a beautiful voice
He has some body of work with really neat trivia here
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0737006/?ref_=fn_al_nm_1 (https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0737006/?ref_=fn_al_nm_1)
I always think he’s also been on “Seinfeld†but it’s just a name mention.
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Kenny Rogers
Former First Edition frontman turned country singer dies at 81
Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenny_Rogers)
RIP
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The record that started it for Rogers . . .
The First Edition, "Just Dropped In (To See What Condition My Condition Was In)"
Error 404 (Not Found)!!1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-GbcVW8DFY#)
RIP.
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Rest in peace, Mr. Rogers and thank you for so many great tunes.
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Former Tibetan Political Prisoner Tashi Phuntsok Dies at 60
2020-03-19
Former political prisoner Tashi Phuntsok, 60, has died in Lithang (in Chinese, Litang) county, a Tibetan region in Sichuan province, where the monk had staged protests against deforestation by China and suffered beatings in jail, an exile source told RFA.
@TomSea
He was a brave man to stand up to the monsters that run China,and his heroism should be acknowledged globally.
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Kenny Rogers, in addition to being a great singer, hosted a program I really liked called, "The Real West."
RIP, Mr. Rogers.
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A classy, touching tribute to Kenny Rogers by Dolly Parton:
https://www.etonline.com/dolly-parton-pays-tribute-to-late-friend-kenny-rogers-i-will-always-love-you-143438 (https://www.etonline.com/dolly-parton-pays-tribute-to-late-friend-kenny-rogers-i-will-always-love-you-143438)
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My favorite Kenny Roger's tune - "Lady" (Brings back so many memories dancing to that song with my hubby).
www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYRfUoR9Q4Y (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYRfUoR9Q4Y#)
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...and this one (tear jerker)
www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3BuITOx3Cs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3BuITOx3Cs#)
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What no Kenny Rogers and the First Edition?
Error 404 (Not Found)!!1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=meJP410N9Gg#)
Error 404 (Not Found)!!1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ChPI5pAet8#)
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Manu Dibango
Cameroonian saxophonist dies at 86
Dibango's best known work was "Soul Makossa," a one-hit wonder in the United States that was an important predecessor to the sound that eventually became to be known as disco.
Dibango died March 24 from complications of coronavirus.
Obituary from the BBC (https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-52017834)
Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manu_Dibango)
Error 404 (Not Found)!!1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EF92yOsv3Y8#)
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Manu Dibango
Cameroonian saxophonist dies at 86
Dibango's best known work was "Soul Makossa," a one-hit wonder in the United States that was an important predecessor to the sound that eventually became to be known as disco.
Dibango died March 24 from complications of coronavirus.
Obituary from the BBC (https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-52017834)
Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manu_Dibango)
Error 404 (Not Found)!!1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EF92yOsv3Y8#)
@jmyrlefuller
DAMN! NOW that it's too late to track him down and punish him,you tell us who was responsible for disco?
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Eric Weissberg
Folk banjoist dies at 80
Weissberg, who prior to his solo career was a member of the popular folk group The Tarriers in the 1950s, rocketed to fame in 1972 when his duet with Steve Mandell, a cover of Arthur Smith's "Duelin' Banjos," was featured in the film Deliverance. "Duelin' Banjos" shot to number two on the Billboard Hot 100 and led to an album that topped the album charts for three weeks. He never had another major hit, instead retreating to the folk and jazz scenes and having a successful career in that field.
Weissberg died March 22 of Alzheimer's disease.
Obituary from Variety and MSN (https://www.msn.com/en-us/music/news/eric-weissberg-whose-dueling-banjos-was-an-unlikely-smash-dies-at-80/ar-BB11BH3p)
Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_Weissberg)
Error 404 (Not Found)!!1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yspZTBNnE5I#)
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@jmyrlefuller
DAMN! NOW that it's too late to track him down and punish him,you tell us who was responsible for disco?
Well, regardless of what you may believe, many of us think he has moved on to a higher judge. :shrug:
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Terrence McNally, Tony-Winning Playwright Dies at 81
Mr. McNally, who died of coronavirus complications, introduced audiences to characters and situations that most mainstream theater had previously shunted into comic asides.
Terrence McNally, the four-time Tony Award-winning playwright whose outpouring of work for the theater dramatized and domesticated gay life across five decades, died on Tuesday in Sarasota, Fla. He was 81.
The cause was complications of the coronavirus, according to his husband, Tom Kirdahy. Mr. McNally had chronic obstructive pulmonary disorder, and had overcome lung cancer. He died at Sarasota Memorial Hospital.
Mr. McNally’s Tony Awards attest to his versatility. Two were for books for musicals, “Kiss of the Spider Woman†(1993) and “Ragtime†(1998), and two were for plays, and vastly different ones: “Love! Valour! Compassion!†(1995), about gay men who share a vacation house, and “Master Class†(1996), in which the opera diva Maria Callas reflects on her career.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/24/theater/terrence-mcnally-dead-coronavirus.html (https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/24/theater/terrence-mcnally-dead-coronavirus.html)
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Eric Weissberg
Folk banjoist dies at 80
Weissberg, who prior to his solo career was a member of the popular folk group The Tarriers in the 1950s, rocketed to fame in 1972 when his duet with Steve Mandell, a cover of Arthur Smith's "Duelin' Banjos," was featured in the film Deliverance. "Duelin' Banjos" shot to number two on the Billboard Hot 100 and led to an album that topped the album charts for three weeks. He never had another major hit, instead retreating to the folk and jazz scenes and having a successful career in that field.
Weissberg died March 22 of Alzheimer's disease.
Obituary from Variety and MSN (https://www.msn.com/en-us/music/news/eric-weissberg-whose-dueling-banjos-was-an-unlikely-smash-dies-at-80/ar-BB11BH3p)
Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_Weissberg)
Error 404 (Not Found)!!1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yspZTBNnE5I#)
What is interesting is that "banjo boy," played by Billie Redden, was not actually playing the banjo. There was another actual banjo-playing teen who had his arms around Redden who couldn't play a banjo. Careful editing made it seem like Redden was the player. And the person who was actually playing the banjo was playing clawhammer style banjo which was different than the Earl Scruggs-three finger-style that people heard.
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Terrence McNally, Tony-Winning Playwright Dies at 81
Mr. McNally, who died of coronavirus complications, introduced audiences to characters and situations that most mainstream theater had previously shunted into comic asides.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/24/theater/terrence-mcnally-dead-coronavirus.html (https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/24/theater/terrence-mcnally-dead-coronavirus.html)
For the record, according to some of my Broadway-inclined friends, McNally had multiple health issues at the time of his death, including a battle with cancer.
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What is interesting is that "banjo boy," played by Billie Redden, was not actually playing the banjo. There was another actual banjo-playing teen who had his arms around Redden who couldn't play a banjo. Careful editing made it seem like Redden was the player. And the person who was actually playing the banjo was playing clawhammer style banjo which was different than the Earl Scruggs-three finger-style that people heard.
@goatprairie
What is the name of this teen? It had to take an incredible amount of talent to reach around,off balance like that,and still absolutely nail a thousand mile per hour beat while being blind to the strings. To think that a teen could do that blows my mind.
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@goatprairie
What is the name of this teen? It had to take an incredible amount of talent to reach around,off balance like that,and still absolutely nail a thousand mile per hour beat while being blind to the strings. To think that a teen could do that blows my mind.
It was largely just finger-sync. Like I said, he was miming to Eric Weissberg's track, no more, no less.
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Trivia: The boy in Deliverance, went on to become a Walmart greeter actually. That's fairly well known and shows up in the news from time to time.
https://uproxx.com/filmdrunk/where-are-they-now-deliverance-banjo-boy-at-56/ (https://uproxx.com/filmdrunk/where-are-they-now-deliverance-banjo-boy-at-56/)
Bill Rieflin, drummer for R.E.M., King Crimson, dead at 59
By Wade Sheridan
March 25 (UPI) -- Bill Rieflin, a drummer who worked with bands R.E.M., King Crimson and Ministry, has died at the age of 59.
R.E.M., Ministry and Robert Fripp of King Crimson confirmed Rieflin's death on social media Tuesday.
"It is with heavy hearts we acknowledge the death of our dear friend and consummate drummer, Bill Rieflin," Michael Stipe of R.E.M. said on the band's official Facebook page.
Read more at: https://www.upi.com/Entertainment_News/2020/03/25/Bill-Rieflin-drummer-for-REM-King-Crimson-dead-at-59/3011585138199/ (https://www.upi.com/Entertainment_News/2020/03/25/Bill-Rieflin-drummer-for-REM-King-Crimson-dead-at-59/3011585138199/)
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RIP to my friend Howard Berman, my best music friend in Las Vegas. We jammed together (he was a drummer and harmonica player and loved the blues and jazz as deeply as I do), we had a shipload of laughs and good talk, he was always calling me (sometimes every third day!) to double check the keys of blues songs he wanted to play, and most of all he was a cherished friend.
Shalom, chaver, until we get to play a few more rounds of "Sugar" (Stanley Turrentine) or "Chicago Bound" (Jimmy Rogers) or "The Sermon" (Jimmy Smith) together again . . .
As Alan Freed used to sign off, it isn't goodbye, it's just good night.
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RIP to my friend Howard Berman, my best music friend in Las Vegas. We jammed together (he was a drummer and harmonica player and loved the blues and jazz as deeply as I do), we had a shipload of laughs and good talk, he was always calling me (sometimes every third day!) to double check the keys of blues songs he wanted to play, and most of all he was a cherished friend.
Shalom, chaver, until we get to play a few more rounds of "Sugar" (Stanley Turrentine) or "Chicago Bound" (Jimmy Rogers) or "The Sermon" (Jimmy Smith) together again . . .
As Alan Freed used to sign off, it isn't goodbye, it's just good night.
My condolences... :crying:
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RIP to my friend Howard Berman, my best music friend in Las Vegas. We jammed together (he was a drummer and harmonica player and loved the blues and jazz as deeply as I do), we had a shipload of laughs and good talk, he was always calling me (sometimes every third day!) to double check the keys of blues songs he wanted to play, and most of all he was a cherished friend.
Shalom, chaver, until we get to play a few more rounds of "Sugar" (Stanley Turrentine) or "Chicago Bound" (Jimmy Rogers) or "The Sermon" (Jimmy Smith) together again . . .
As Alan Freed used to sign off, it isn't goodbye, it's just good night.
I’m so sorry @EasyAce
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Famed Chef Floyd Cardoz Dies of Coronavirus at 59
Chef Floyd Cardoz died on Wednesday at Mountainside Medical Centre in New Jersey as a result of complications from coronavirus, a spokesperson for his Hunger Inc. Hospitality Group confirms to PEOPLE. He was 59.
The Top Chef Masters winner was first admitted to the hospital with a fever last Wednesday, and subsequently tested positive for COVID-19.
At the time, he posted an update on his Instagram page, saying he sought medical help as a “precautionary measure.â€
https://people.com/food/famed-chef-floyd-cardoz-reportedly-dies-of-coronavirus-at-59/
I’m a fan of Top Chef. RIP
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I’m so sorry @EasyAce
Thank you @Gefn
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My condolences... :crying:
Thank you @Cyber Liberty
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@goatprairie
What is the name of this teen? It had to take an incredible amount of talent to reach around,off balance like that,and still absolutely nail a thousand mile per hour beat while being blind to the strings. To think that a teen could do that blows my mind.
Well, to be truthful, he wasn't actually playing what you heard. Eric Weissberg's three finger style was what you heard. The guy behind Redden was playing clawhammer style banjo which is pretty different from three finger picking.
So they just recorded Weissberg and some guitar player in a studio and timed it to what Cox and Redden were "playing" onscreen.
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RIP to my friend Howard Berman, my best music friend in Las Vegas. We jammed together (he was a drummer and harmonica player and loved the blues and jazz as deeply as I do), we had a shipload of laughs and good talk, he was always calling me (sometimes every third day!) to double check the keys of blues songs he wanted to play, and most of all he was a cherished friend.
Shalom, chaver, until we get to play a few more rounds of "Sugar" (Stanley Turrentine) or "Chicago Bound" (Jimmy Rogers) or "The Sermon" (Jimmy Smith) together again . . .
As Alan Freed used to sign off, it isn't goodbye, it's just good night.
Condolences.
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RIP to my friend Howard Berman, my best music friend in Las Vegas.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jXrmAKBBTU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jXrmAKBBTU)
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RIP to my friend Howard Berman, my best music friend in Las Vegas. We jammed together (he was a drummer and harmonica player and loved the blues and jazz as deeply as I do), we had a shipload of laughs and good talk, he was always calling me (sometimes every third day!) to double check the keys of blues songs he wanted to play, and most of all he was a cherished friend.
Shalom, chaver, until we get to play a few more rounds of "Sugar" (Stanley Turrentine) or "Chicago Bound" (Jimmy Rogers) or "The Sermon" (Jimmy Smith) together again . . .
As Alan Freed used to sign off, it isn't goodbye, it's just good night.
I'm so sorry! You will be in my prayers.
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Condolences.
Thank you @verga
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jXrmAKBBTU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jXrmAKBBTU)
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Thank you @roamer_1
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I'm so sorry! You will be in my prayers.
Thank you @musiclady - I appreciate that!
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Goat wrote:
"So they just recorded Weissberg and some guitar player in a studio and timed it to what Cox and Redden were "playing" onscreen"
The guitar player was Steve Mandell, who passed on about two years ago.
Ronny Cox did a good job of synching his onscreen playing to the actual soundtrack.
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Goat wrote:
"So they just recorded Weissberg and some guitar player in a studio and timed it to what Cox and Redden were "playing" onscreen"
The guitar player was Steve Mandell, who passed on about two years ago.
Ronny Cox did a good job of synching his onscreen playing to the actual soundtrack.
Thanks for the info.
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RIP to my friend Howard Berman, my best music friend in Las Vegas. We jammed together (he was a drummer and harmonica player and loved the blues and jazz as deeply as I do), we had a shipload of laughs and good talk, he was always calling me (sometimes every third day!) to double check the keys of blues songs he wanted to play, and most of all he was a cherished friend.
Shalom, chaver, until we get to play a few more rounds of "Sugar" (Stanley Turrentine) or "Chicago Bound" (Jimmy Rogers) or "The Sermon" (Jimmy Smith) together again . . .
As Alan Freed used to sign off, it isn't goodbye, it's just good night.
Sorry for your loss @EasyAce
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Sorry for your loss @EasyAce
Thank you @GrouchoTex
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Sorry about your friend @EasyAce.
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Sorry about your friend @EasyAce.
Thank you @Smokin Joe
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Harlem Globetrotters legend Curly Neal dies at age 77
Neal’s 22-year stint with the exhibition team included north of 6,000 games and some incredible moments in front of awe-inspired fans.
Neal suited up with the Globetrotters during the height of their popularity from 1963-85, playing in 97 different countries. He’s right up there with Meadowlark Lemon as one of the most popular all-time members of the Globetrotters.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nba/harlem-globetrotters-legend-curly-neal-dies-at-age-77/ar-BB11KT6Y?ocid=msedgdhp (https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nba/harlem-globetrotters-legend-curly-neal-dies-at-age-77/ar-BB11KT6Y?ocid=msedgdhp)
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I remember as a kid watching the Globetrotters with my Dad on ABC's Wide World of Sports from time to time. Neither of us were big basketball fans, but those Globetrotter "games" were a lot of fun.
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Harlem Globetrotters legend Curly Neal dies at age 77
https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nba/harlem-globetrotters-legend-curly-neal-dies-at-age-77/ar-BB11KT6Y?ocid=msedgdhp (https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nba/harlem-globetrotters-legend-curly-neal-dies-at-age-77/ar-BB11KT6Y?ocid=msedgdhp)
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I remember as a kid watching the Globetrotters with my Dad on ABC's Wide World of Sports from time to time. Neither of us were big basketball fans, but those Globetrotter "games" were a lot of fun.
I have similar family memories. Curly had a great hairstyle!
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I remember being dazzled by Curly's bball skills when I saw the Globetrotters around 1970. So entertaining.
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I remember being dazzled by Curly's bball skills when I saw the Globetrotters around 1970. So entertaining.
Yes, same here. I'm not much on basketball, but that was great fun. RIP, Mr. Neal, and thanks for great memories of fun times!
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I remember being dazzled by Curly's bball skills when I saw the Globetrotters around 1970. So entertaining.
He and Meadowlark Lemon were the best!
My inspiration!
RIP, Curly.
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He and Meadowlark Lemon were the best!
My inspiration!
RIP, Curly.
@musiclady
I remember a television special with the Trotters for which comedian Soupy Sales was the guest referee. Neal handed Sales a basketball. Sales gave it a dribble to test it---and it shattered into about three trillion pieces. The Trotters arranged to have the glass ball made to look and feel like a basketball before giving it to Sale.
RIP Curly. You could dribble in a crab walk and get it up the court without missing a beat. Come to think of it, quite a few times you did!
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Mike Stratton
Longtime pro football linebacker dies at 78
Stratton played the bulk of his 12-season professional career (1962 to 1973) with the Buffalo Bills. He is most famous for a play in the 1964 American Football League championship, in which he broke the ribs of San Diego Chargers running back Keith Lincoln with an open-field tackle that lives on as the "hit heard 'round the world." (He would spend his final season of play with the Chargers.)
Obituary from WNY News Now (https://wnynewsnow.com/2020/03/26/buffalo-bills-afl-star-linebacker-mike-stratton-dies-at-78/)
Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Stratton)
Career stats (https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/S/StraMi01.htm)
Error 404 (Not Found)!!1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ocdc70KbT08#)
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Meadowlark and Curly were my favorites too.
RIP Curly. I’m sure you’re playing basketball in heaven with some greats now.
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Meadowlark and Curly were my favorites too.
RIP Curly. I’m sure you’re playing basketball in heaven with some greats now.
Well, I enjoyed the Globies too and saw them several times live as a youth and more times on tv.
Nevertheless, the Globies weren't great players for the most part. After the NBA started playing more and more black players, the Globies didn't get as many good black players.
I did see Connie Hawkins play with the Globies before he joined the NBA, and he was a great player.
But the myth of the Globies being a super team still lives on in the minds of many people.
I used to help a friend coach a grade school bb team back in the eighties.
One time talking to one of the fathers on the team, he was adamant that the Globies were the best team in the world and could beat any NBA team.
I looked at him for a while and then said, no, the Globies would get crushed.
He was still insistent that the Globies would whip any NBA team including the Showtime Lakers with Magic Johnson and Kareem Abdul-Jabbar.
I looked at him for a while longer and then just walked away. He was a nice guy but a total ignoramus concerning basketball.
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@musiclady
I remember a television special with the Trotters for which comedian Soupy Sales was the guest referee. Neal handed Sales a basketball. Sales gave it a dribble to test it---and it shattered into about three trillion pieces. The Trotters arranged to have the glass ball made to look and feel like a basketball before giving it to Sale.
RIP Curly. You could dribble in a crab walk and get it up the court without missing a beat. Come to think of it, quite a few times you did!
Hearing Sweet Georgia Brown still makes me smile. happy77
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Hearing Sweet Georgia Brown still makes me smile. happy77
@musiclady
Hearing "Sweet Georgia Brown" makes EVERYBODY smile.
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Well, I enjoyed the Globies too and saw them several times as a youth and more times on tv.
Nevertheless, the Globies weren't great players for the most part. After the NBA started playing more and more black players, the Globies didn't get as many good black players.
I did see Connie Hawkins play with the Globies before he joined the NBA, and he was a great player.
But the myth of the Globies being a super team still lives on in the minds of many people.
I used to help a friend coach a grade school bb team back in the eighties.
One time talking to one of the fathers on the team, he was adamant that the Globies were the best team in the world and could beat any NBA team.
I looked at him for a while and then said, no, the Globies would get crushed.
He was still insistent that the Globies would whip any NBA team including the Showtime Lakers with Magic Johnson and Kareem Abdul-Jabbar.
I looked at him for a while longer and then just walked away. He was a nice guy but a total ignoramus concerning basketball.
The Globetrotters were famous for their ball handling antics on the court, which were at the core of their highly entertaining game.
In terms of today's 7-foot tall hard-driving NBA game, no, there is no real comparison, but the Globetrotters played what often were charity games, against teams put together from local or even school 'noteworthies', not so much professional players, at least in the context in which I saw them play. There was no shame in losing to them, and part of those ticket sales went to the cause du jour.
What they are, and ever will remain, is an excellent exhibition game team who played and were watched by a fan base for entertainment, not to make the final four in March Madness.
In a nutshell, they are fun to watch, just for the fun of it.
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@musiclady
Hearing "Sweet Georgia Brown" makes EVERYBODY smile.
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In a nutshell, they are fun to watch, just for the fun of it.
@Smokin Joe
Fun? WOW! What a concept!
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@Smokin Joe
Fun? WOW! What a concept!
Ain't it though?
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I saw the Harlem Clowns a few times, a Harlem Globetrotters knockoff because the Globetrotters were so popular, the Globetrotters must have played mainly big venues. Globetrotters were on TV and yes, seemed to have their own cartoon show at one time.
The Harlem Clowns was an African American show team based in Chicago that toured the world during its several decades of existence from 1934 to 1983. The team was founded by Al "Runt" Pullins in 1934, when he left the Harlem Globetrotters, and founded a competitive team that he originally called the Harlem Globetrotters. Pullins changed the name of his team many times, changing the name to New York Globetrotters, then the Broadway Clowns, and then a few other name changes before settling on the Harlem Clowns.
https://mwal.fandom.com/wiki/Harlem_Clowns (https://mwal.fandom.com/wiki/Harlem_Clowns)
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I know I watched it on TV and it's probably on youtube somewhere....they throw the ball from way far away in the arena, up in the balcony or even higher. Some NBAers also I believe did go into the Globetrotters, so I don't knock them too much on the talent level... that shot actually is around a minute into this video. It appears to have been a common trick they did. Starting around 45 seconds in and I do think they say the guy played in the NBA (this is a recent GT version but this has been in their repertoire a long time).
Error 404 (Not Found)!!1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bx1MpA8a_XE#)
Conceivably, that could have been practiced a few times with misses. I don't know if they did it sometimes live, it does seem like I watched them do it on tv once, not sure if it was live.
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The Globetrotters were famous for their ball handling antics on the court, which were at the core of their highly entertaining game.
In terms of today's 7-foot tall hard-driving NBA game, no, there is no real comparison, but the Globetrotters played what often were charity games, against teams put together from local or even school 'noteworthies', not so much professional players, at least in the context in which I saw them play. There was no shame in losing to them, and part of those ticket sales went to the cause du jour.
What they are, and ever will remain, is an excellent exhibition game team who played and were watched by a fan base for entertainment, not to make the final four in March Madness.
In a nutshell, they are fun to watch, just for the fun of it.
"In a nutshell, they are fun to watch, just for the fun of it."
yes indeed..... :beer:
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Before black players were allowed in the NBA the Globies might have been the best bb team in the world.
In the late forties they beat the NBA champs Minneapolis Lakers with George Mikan on a last second shot.
When the game started the Globies were stunned to discover how quick Mikan was. They thought he was just a big oaf who scored pts on his size. Mikan scored a ton of pts in the first half of the game. In the second half the Globies ganged up on Mikan and according to ballhandling whiz Marquis Haynes, the best known Globie, "beat the hell" out of Mikan.
Mikan didn't do as well in the second half.
Subsequent games later the Lakers won, and Abe Saperstein cancelled further games. As the fifties progressed, more and more good black players joined NBA teams rather than play with the Globies.
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Before black players were allowed in the NBA the Globies might have been the best bb team in the world.
In the late forties they beat the NBA champs Minneapolis Lakers with George Mikan on a last second shot.
When the game started the Globies were stunned to discover how quick Mikan was. They thought he was just a big oaf who scored pts on his size. Mikan scored a ton of pts in the first half of the game. In the second half the Globies ganged up on Mikan and according to ballhandling whiz Marquis Haynes, the best known Globie, "beat the hell" out of Mikan.
Mikan didn't do as well in the second half.
Subsequent games later the Lakers won, and Abe Saperstein cancelled further games. As the fifties progressed, more and more good black players joined NBA teams rather than play with the Globies.
@goatprairie
Question: Name the only member of baseball's Hall of Fame to play with the Globetrotters.
Answer: Bob Gibson.
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@goatprairie
Question: Name the only member of baseball's Hall of Fame to play with the Globetrotters.
Answer: Bob Gibson.
Name the black athlete who if he chose basketball as his pro sport rather than baseball, very possibly could have been the first black athlete in the NBA and the best player in the league.
I think you know who I'm talking about.
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Name the black athlete who if he chose basketball as his pro sport rather than baseball, very possibly could have been the first black athlete in the NBA and the best player in the league.
I think you know who I'm talking about.
Dave Winfield?
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I'll guess someone like Willie Mays. Dave Winfield wasn't that long ago but maybe so. Could be anyone.
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Dave Winfield?
Jackie Robinson. Winfield was a pretty good basketball player, but Robinson, if he had entered the league in the late forties/early fifties would have been among the best athletes in the league, maybe the best. In the off-season he played semi-pro ball for the LA Red Devils a team that would occasionally play exhibition games against NBA teams and beat them.
Robinson wanted to get his team into the NBA, but LA was too far from most of the other teams, and they, the other teams, didn't have the money for air travel.
At 5'11 Robinson was not only extra fast, he was a tremendous leaper who regularly dunked in games despite being under six feet. He was an excellent ballhandler.
He was a big star in college at UCLA in four sports. He could have been a pro football player as well.
But he chose baseball, and as they say, the rest is history.
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@goatprairie
Question: Name the only member of baseball's Hall of Fame to play with the Globetrotters.
Answer: Bob Gibson.
@EasyAce - I LOVED the 1951 movie about the Harlem Globetrotters. What's your opinion on that film?
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@EasyAce - I LOVED the 1951 movie about the Harlem Globetrotters. What's your opinion on that film?
@musiclady
If you mean The Harlem Globetrotters, I saw that and the sequel---which centered as much on founder/owner Abe Saperstein as on the team---Go, Man, Go (1954). I liked both films.
Here's a clip of the Trotters' famous warmup from the 1950s . . .
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Did you know: Boston Celtics legend Bob Cousy, the diminutive, swift playmaker who was arguably the first true entertainer in the NBA, learned most of his trick dribbling and passing from watching and admiring Trotters legend Marquess Johnson . . .
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@musiclady
If you mean The Harlem Globetrotters, I saw that and the sequel---which centered as much on founder/owner Abe Saperstein as on the team---Go, Man, Go (1954). I liked both films.
Here's a clip of the Trotters' famous warmup from the 1950s . . .
Error 404 (Not Found)!!1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDLvbnoGA6M#)
Did you know: Boston Celtics legend Bob Cousy, the diminutive, swift playmaker who was arguably the first true entertainer in the NBA, learned most of his trick dribbling and passing from watching and admiring Trotters legend Marquess Johnson . . .
I remember the Saperstein movie as well. Liked it too!
My Dad took us to see the Globetrotters when I was a kid (late 50’s or early 60’s..... my older brothers would remember when) and I absolutely loved them! I think that’s when my love of playing basketball took seed.
I remember Bob Cousy, but didn’t know the Globetrotter connection!
(I remember Cousy mostly because he was a teammate of Buckeye John Havlicek! happy77)
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Before black players were allowed in the NBA the Globies might have been the best bb team in the world.
In the late forties they beat the NBA champs Minneapolis Lakers with George Mikan on a last second shot.
When the game started the Globies were stunned to discover how quick Mikan was. They thought he was just a big oaf who scored pts on his size. Mikan scored a ton of pts in the first half of the game. In the second half the Globies ganged up on Mikan and according to ballhandling whiz Marquis Haynes, the best known Globie, "beat the hell" out of Mikan.
Mikan didn't do as well in the second half.
Subsequent games later the Lakers won, and Abe Saperstein cancelled further games. As the fifties progressed, more and more good black players joined NBA teams rather than play with the Globies.
Correction...it was Goose Tatum, not Marquis Haynes, who said the Globies beat the heck out of Mikan.
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Former U.S. Sen. Tom Coburn dies at 72
by Chris Casteel
Published: Sat, March 28, 2020 9:06 AM
Former U.S. Sen. Tom Coburn, a physician who became a powerful force in Congress on fiscal matters, died Friday night after a long fight with prostate cancer. He was 72.
Coburn, of Muskogee, served in the Senate from 2005 to 2015 and in the U.S. House of Representatives from 1995 to 2001.
A statement from Coburn's family on Saturday morning said, "Because of his strong faith, he rested in the hope found in John chapter 11 verse 25 where Jesus said, 'I am the resurrection and the life. The one who believes in me, will live, even though they die.' Today he lives in heaven." ...
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More from the Oklahoman (https://oklahoman.com/article/5658847/former-us-sen-tom-coburn-dies-at-72)
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Coburn was a real Conservative. He will be missed.
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Why Tom ‘Dr. No’ Coburn Was Truly ‘The Conscience Of The Senate’
March 28, 2020
By Katie Bailey
It is a rare political figure who was called “the conscience of the Senate†by none other than John McCain — and also forged a working friendship with a young senator from Illinois named Barack Obama. That was Tom Coburn.
The former U.S. senator from Oklahoma, who died today at age 72, was often called the Senate’s “Dr. No,†able to jam up legislation like a committee of one. But those who knew him best knew the truth: Tom Coburn was principled, not partisan. ...
Make no mistake, he wore the moniker of Dr. No proudly. He was unabashed about fighting to preserve liberty. He felt strongly about trying to prevent the next generation of Americans from being crushed under the debt of their parents’ profligate spending. ...
Entire article at The Federalist (https://thefederalist.com/2020/03/28/why-tom-dr-no-coburn-was-truly-the-conscience-of-the-senate/#.Xn9yF1GvsBc.twitter)
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Entire article at The Federalist (https://thefederalist.com/2020/03/28/why-tom-dr-no-coburn-was-truly-the-conscience-of-the-senate/#.Xn9yF1GvsBc.twitter)
It is a rare political figure who was called “the conscience of the Senate†by none other than John McCain
@mountaineer
Clearly a line written for him because McLunatic was a sociopath that had no conscience.
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Prayers up for Senator Coburn's friends and family! :0001:
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Spanish Princess Becomes the First Royal to Die of Coronavirus
Princess Maria Teresa de Borbón-Parma has become the first member of a royal family to pass away due to Coronavirus complications.
The Spanish princess' younger brother took to social media to announce the tragedy on Thursday.
"On this afternoon… our sister Maria Teresa de Borbón-Parma and Borbón Busset, victim of the coronavirus COVID-19, died in Paris at the age of eighty-six," Prince Sixtus Henry of Bourbon-Parma, the Duke of Aranjuez, said in a statement on Facebook.
According to the prince, a memorial service was held in Maria Teresa's honor on Friday in Madrid.
https://www.eonline.com/news/1135492/spanish-princess-becomes-the-first-royal-to-die-of-coronavirus-complications (https://www.eonline.com/news/1135492/spanish-princess-becomes-the-first-royal-to-die-of-coronavirus-complications)
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Spanish Princess Becomes the First Royal to Die of Coronavirus
https://www.eonline.com/news/1135492/spanish-princess-becomes-the-first-royal-to-die-of-coronavirus-complications (https://www.eonline.com/news/1135492/spanish-princess-becomes-the-first-royal-to-die-of-coronavirus-complications)
It sounds like she accomplished a lot of things and had a pretty amazing life.
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Joseph Lowery, Civil Rights Activist passes away at 98 years old:
https://www.arkansasonline.com/news/2020/mar/29/civil-rights-icon-lowery-dies-at-98-202/?news-politics (https://www.arkansasonline.com/news/2020/mar/29/civil-rights-icon-lowery-dies-at-98-202/?news-politics)
Jan Howard, country music singer, passes away at 91.
https://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/country/9345728/jan-howard-dead (https://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/country/9345728/jan-howard-dead)
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Joe Diffie
Country star of the 1990s dies at 61
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9d/Joe_Diffie.jpg/220px-Joe_Diffie.jpg)
Diffie's string of country hits, which carried a distinctly 1990s sensibility with a comic touch, included "Third Rock from the Sun," "John Deere Green," "Pickup Man," "Bigger than the Beatles" and "If the Devil Danced in Empty Pockets." He died March 29 from coronavirus.
Obituary from Rolling Stone (https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-country/joe-diffie-country-singer-dead-obituary-974556/)
Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Diffie)
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Joe Diffie
Country star of the 1990s dies at 61
Dang it! Pickup Man is dang near my theme song. **nononono*
RIP Joe Diffie
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The Globetrotters were famous for their ball handling antics on the court, which were at the core of their highly entertaining game.
In terms of today's 7-foot tall hard-driving NBA game, no, there is no real comparison, but the Globetrotters played what often were charity games, against teams put together from local or even school 'noteworthies', not so much professional players, at least in the context in which I saw them play. There was no shame in losing to them, and part of those ticket sales went to the cause du jour.
What they are, and ever will remain, is an excellent exhibition game team who played and were watched by a fan base for entertainment, not to make the final four in March Madness.
In a nutshell, they are fun to watch, just for the fun of it.
I worked with a guy that was on the "Washington Generals", The trotters perennial victims. The hours and hours of practice they put into their shows. Amazing teamwork.
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I worked with a guy that was on the "Washington Generals", The trotters perennial victims. The hours and hours of practice they put into their shows. Amazing teamwork.
I saw them live twice in La Crosse, Wisconsin.
The last time I saw them was the first time I noticed that the clock never stopped.
During halftime, there was a variety of acts including an exhibition of table tennis by some professional players. I still remember one of the players standing twenty feet back of the table yelling "get in there" as he hit a shot back.
Can't remember who won the basketball game though...... :silly:
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Alan Merrill, "I Love Rock and Roll" songwriter, dies of coronavirus complications
Updated on: March 30, 2020 / 8:04 AM / CBS/AP
Alan Merrill - who co-wrote the song "I Love Rock and Roll" that became a signature hit for fellow rocker Joan Jett - died Sunday in New York of complications from the coronavirus, his daughter said. He was 69.
Laura Merrill said on her Facebook account that he died Sunday morning.
"I was given 2 minutes to say my goodbyes before I was rushed out. He seemed peaceful and as I left there was still a glimmer of hope that he wouldn't be a ticker on the right hand side of the CNN/Fox news screen," she wrote. "I walked 50 blocks home still with hope in my heart. The city that I knew was empty. I felt I was the only person here and perhaps in many ways I was. By the time I got in the doors to my apartment I received the news that he was gone."
Read more at: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/alan-merrill-died-i-love-rock-and-roll-co-writer-dead-age-69-cause-of-death-coronavirus-complications/ (https://www.cbsnews.com/news/alan-merrill-died-i-love-rock-and-roll-co-writer-dead-age-69-cause-of-death-coronavirus-complications/)
Original, "I Love Rock and Roll" was a B-side for the Arrows, I guess he was part of that group whom I have heard of previously.
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https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-52089768 (https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-52089768)
John Prine is in critical condition per BBC article.
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David Schramm, Star on NBC’s ‘Wings,’ Dies at 73
Jordan Moreau
17 hrs ago
David Schramm, a stage actor who was also a star on the NBC comedy “Wings,†has died. He was 73.
Schramm was a founding member of New York’s The Acting Company, which announced the news of his death on Sunday.
He played Roy Biggins, the rival airline owner on “Wings,†and appeared in all 172 episodes between 1990 and 1997. ...
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More (https://www.msn.com/en-us/tv/news/david-schramm-star-on-nbcs-wings-dies-at-73/ar-BB11SA2Y)
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CBS News Journalist Maria Mercader Dies at 54 After Testing Positive for Coronavirus
Jeremy Fuster
Maria Mercader, a CBS News veteran who worked for over 30 years as a reporter and talent director, died on Sunday after testing positive for coronavirus. She was 54.
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More: https://www.msn.com/en-us/tv/news/cbs-news-journalist-maria-mercader-dies-at-54-after-testing-positive-for-coronavirus/ar-BB11Sun0?OCID=ansmsnnews11 (https://www.msn.com/en-us/tv/news/cbs-news-journalist-maria-mercader-dies-at-54-after-testing-positive-for-coronavirus/ar-BB11Sun0?OCID=ansmsnnews11)
NBC also lost someone on their staff about 5-7 days ago.
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David Schramm, Star on NBC’s ‘Wings,’ Dies at 73
Jordan Moreau
17 hrs ago
David Schramm, a stage actor who was also a star on the NBC comedy “Wings,†has died. He was 73.
Schramm was a founding member of New York’s The Acting Company, which announced the news of his death on Sunday.
He played Roy Biggins, the rival airline owner on “Wings,†and appeared in all 172 episodes between 1990 and 1997. ...
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More (https://www.msn.com/en-us/tv/news/david-schramm-star-on-nbcs-wings-dies-at-73/ar-BB11SA2Y)
Wings was good, wow, 172 whole episodes, rest in peace.
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Tomie dePaola
Children's author/illustrator dies at 85
dePaola is best known for Strega Nona, an old Italian woman based on his own grandparents. He parlayed the character into a series of children's books, which are among approximately 250 that he wrote or illustrated during his lifetime.
dePaola died March 30 from injuries sustained in a fall and complications from surgery.
Obituary from Time magazine (https://time.com/5812827/strega-nona-tomie-depaola-obituary/)
Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tomie_dePaola)
Strega Nona at the Internet Archive (https://archive.org/details/streganonaoldtal00depa_0)
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Tomie dePaola
Children's author/illustrator dies at 85
dePaola is best known for Strega Nona, an old Italian woman based on his own grandparents. He parlayed the character into a series of children's books, which are among approximately 250 that he wrote or illustrated during his lifetime.
dePaola died March 30 from injuries sustained in a fall and complications from surgery.
Obituary from Time magazine (https://time.com/5812827/strega-nona-tomie-depaola-obituary/)
Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tomie_dePaola)
Strega Nona at the Internet Archive (https://archive.org/details/streganonaoldtal00depa_0)
Thanks for the Strega Nona link!
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Nobel laureate and Princeton physicist Philip Anderson dies at age 96
Philip Warren Anderson, one of the greatest theoretical physicists of the postwar era, died Sunday, March 29, at Princeton Windrows, age 96. Anderson was the Joseph Henry Professor of Physics, Emeritus, at Princeton University. His illustrious career included a Nobel Prize and fundamental contributions to understanding the nature of materials and collective phenomena more generally — from everyday items such as magnets to exotic superconductors and new forms of matter such as topologically ordered states. He also contributed to the Anderson-Higgs mechanism, which is a key basis for the Standard Model of Particle Physics.
https://www.princeton.edu/news/2020/03/30/nobel-laureate-and-princeton-physicist-philip-anderson-dies-age-96 (https://www.princeton.edu/news/2020/03/30/nobel-laureate-and-princeton-physicist-philip-anderson-dies-age-96)
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Thanks for the Strega Nona link!
The Internet Archive is a wonderful resource for books. They have most of dePaola's books.
https://archive.org/search.php?query=tomie+depaola&and%5B%5D=mediatype%3A%22texts%22&page=2
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PIONEER DEAD Famed neurosurgeon Dr. James T. Goodrich who separated conjoined twins dies from coronavirus complications
Niamh Cavanagh
Mar 31 2020, 11:04 ETUpdated: Mar 31 2020, 12:16 ET
A WORLD famous neurosurgeon who separated conjoined twins four years ago has died after being diagnosed with coronavirus.
Dr James Goodrich, a pediatric neurosurgeon at New York City's Montefiore Medical Centre, died yesterday after suffering complications due to COVID-19.
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Twins that Dr Goodrich separated in 2016Credit: Facebook
Montefiore Medical Centre CEO, Dr Philip Ozuah said: "Dr Goodrich was a beacon of our institution and he will be truly missed.
Read more at: https://www.the-sun.com/news/615922/neurosurgeon-james-goodrich-dead-coronavirus-conjoined-twins/ (https://www.the-sun.com/news/615922/neurosurgeon-james-goodrich-dead-coronavirus-conjoined-twins/)
Saddened by this tragedy indeed and for everyone this is happening too. More pictures at link.
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Adam Schlesinger, Emmy Winner and Fountains of Wayne Cofounder, Dies of Coronavirus Complications
https://variety.com/2020/music/news/adam-schlesinger-coronavirus-dead-dies-1203552130/ (https://variety.com/2020/music/news/adam-schlesinger-coronavirus-dead-dies-1203552130/)
Adam Schlesinger, a musician and songwriter highly regarded for his work as a member of Fountains of Wayne and an Emmy-winning songwriter for TV’s “Crazy Ex-Girlfriend,†has died as a result of coronavirus complications, Variety has confirmed. He was 52.
He had previously been reported Tuesday morning as “very sick and heavily sedated†by his attorney of 25 years, Josh Grier. He had been in an upstate New York hospital for more than a week at that time, Grier said.
His Oscar nomination in 1997 was for writing the theme song for the Tom Hanks-directed film “That Thing You Do!,†one of his first successful forays outside the realm of his own music-making with Fountains of Wayne. He was also nominated for a Golden Globe at that time.
“Welcome Interstate Managers†in 2003, the album that generated “Stacy’s Mom†(and its Rachel Hunter-starring video), remained their most popular work.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZLfasMPOU4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZLfasMPOU4#)
www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzllVlzzeuo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzllVlzzeuo#)
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Adam Schlesinger, Emmy Winner and Fountains of Wayne Cofounder, Dies of Coronavirus Complications
https://variety.com/2020/music/news/adam-schlesinger-coronavirus-dead-dies-1203552130/ (https://variety.com/2020/music/news/adam-schlesinger-coronavirus-dead-dies-1203552130/)
Adam Schlesinger, a musician and songwriter highly regarded for his work as a member of Fountains of Wayne and an Emmy-winning songwriter for TV’s “Crazy Ex-Girlfriend,†has died as a result of coronavirus complications, Variety has confirmed. He was 52.
He had previously been reported Tuesday morning as “very sick and heavily sedated†by his attorney of 25 years, Josh Grier. He had been in an upstate New York hospital for more than a week at that time, Grier said.
His Oscar nomination in 1997 was for writing the theme song for the Tom Hanks-directed film “That Thing You Do!,†one of his first successful forays outside the realm of his own music-making with Fountains of Wayne. He was also nominated for a Golden Globe at that time.
“Welcome Interstate Managers†in 2003, the album that generated “Stacy’s Mom†(and its Rachel Hunter-starring video), remained their most popular work.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZLfasMPOU4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZLfasMPOU4#)
www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzllVlzzeuo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzllVlzzeuo#)
That's how far out of the loop I am. I've never heard of this guy or the group.
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That's how far out of the loop I am. I've never heard of this guy or the group.
Me, neither, but that's why I check the music threads out. Might hear something I like I hadn't seen before.
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Ellis Marsalis, Patriarch of New Orleans Most Musical Family - dead of Coronavirus (https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/04/02/825717204/ellis-marsalis-patriarch-of-new-orleans-most-famous-musical-family-has-died)
This is a great loss.
His album "Resolution of Romance" with his son Wynton, is one of the most beautiful jazz albums I've ever heard.
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Ellis Marsalis, Patriarch of New Orleans Most Musical Family - dead of Coronavirus (https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/04/02/825717204/ellis-marsalis-patriarch-of-new-orleans-most-famous-musical-family-has-died)
This is a great loss.
His album "Resolution of Romance" with his son Wynton, is one of the most beautiful jazz albums I've ever heard.
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@musiclady
It can't possibly be true,but it sure SEEMS like that entire family is musically gifted,doesn't it?
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Yes, an extremely talented family. My sister had the thrill of recording with Wynton when she was attending Eastman. Afterwards, he attended a "wrap party" at her house. What another thrill. Excuse me, now I need to cue up some Ellis Marsalis tunes.
Error 404 (Not Found)!!1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7WFYZ1U0Yg#)
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@musiclady
It can't possibly be true,but it sure SEEMS like that entire family is musically gifted,doesn't it?
They say that music is the most frequently inherited trait, so combine that with the environment that the patriarch raised them in, and I guess the natural ability blossomed into an amazingly gifted family.
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Yes, an extremely talented family. My sister had the thrill of recording with Wynton when she was attending Eastman. Afterwards, he attended a "wrap party" at her house. What a thrill. Excuse me, now I need to cue up some Ellis Marsalis tunes.
Jealous!
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They say that music is the most frequently inherited trait, so combine that with the environment that the patriarch raised them in, and I guess the natural ability blossomed into an amazingly gifted family.
@musiclady
The only families in jazz I could say were equal to the Marsalises were:
The Heaths---Percy (longtime bassist with the Modern Jazz Quartet), Albert (nicknamed "Tootie"; drummer extraordinaire, who also stepped in with the MJQ after their longtime drummer Connie Kay died), and Jimmy (saxophonist).
The Jones boys---Hank (pianist), Thad (great trumpeter), and Elvin (arguably the greatest jazz drummer of the 1960s---Art Blakey and Tony Williams might have been up there with him---with and without his work in John Coltrane's "classic quartet").
RIP Ellis.
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They say that music is the most frequently inherited trait, so combine that with the environment that the patriarch raised them in, and I guess the natural ability blossomed into an amazingly gifted family.
@musiclady
It has also GOT to be said that talent was nurtured and fed by attending church services and singing gospel music.
Nobody seems to want to admit it for some reason,but the root of ALL popular music in America today is one Protestant Church or another.
Does the name "Aretha" ring any bells?
How about "church boy" Same Cooke?
Error 404 (Not Found)!!1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wEBlaMOmKV4#)
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They say that music is the most frequently inherited trait, so combine that with the environment that the patriarch raised them in, and I guess the natural ability blossomed into an amazingly gifted family.
Not in my family. My brother played organ for a Lutheran Church, I can't carry a tune in a basket and flunked out of Band.
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Not in my family. My brother played organ for a Lutheran Church, I can't carry a tune in a basket and flunked out of Band.
There are exceptions to every rule.
Consider yourself exceptional. happy77
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How about "church boy" Same Cooke?
Error 404 (Not Found)!!1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wEBlaMOmKV4#)
@sneakypete
This was Sam Cooke in his gospel years---when he first attracted attention as the lead voice (and most popular and respected such voice) of the legendary Soul Stirrers . . .
The Soul Stirrers, "Nearer My God to Thee"
Error 404 (Not Found)!!1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXt-I2bIdZE#)
The Soul Stirrers, "Be With Me Jesus"
Error 404 (Not Found)!!1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6bbPmBwnPIs#)
You had a point about Aretha Franklin, too. Columbia Records spent several years trying to find a way to push her but to no avail. When they dropped her, Jerry Wexler of Atlantic Records signed her up at once. Asked what he thought he could do that Columbia couldn't, Wexler laid it down flatly: "We're gonna put her back in church." Meaning he'd let Aretha do what Columbia couldn't or wouldn't---let her lean on her gospel roots. (And, give in when session musician Spooner Oldham, noticing how uncomfortable she was just singing, told Wexler, "I know you hired me to play piano but look at her. Put her at the piano and let me play the organ or the vibes or something." Bull's eye.) The rest, of course . . .
Aretha Franklin, "I Never Loved a Man (The Way I Love You)"
Error 404 (Not Found)!!1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dzIUgS3Imu0#)
Motown did much the same thing with Gladys Knight & the Pips when they signed with the company and were put on the Soul subsidiary label. Producer/writers Norman Whitfield and Barrett Strong handed them a song they'd written that played right to the Pips' gospel origins. Gladys Knight herself once said the group lived with the song for a full week, "tearing it down, doing the little things," and the result was not just their first crossover hit but just sweat right out of the classic black storefront church from opening to fade . . .
Gladys Knight & the Pips, "I Heard It Through the Grapevine"
Error 404 (Not Found)!!1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9sFhrOQFZTE#)
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@sneakypete
This was Sam Cooke in his gospel years---when he first attracted attention as the lead voice (and most popular and respected such voice) of the legendary Soul Stirrers . . .
@EasyAce
Yes,I know about the earlier years,but I figured most people would be more familiar with something spiritual (in every sense) from his later years.
Plus,it helps make the point about the origins of R&B,soul,rock and roll,blues,country,and every other form of America music coming straight out of the Protestant Churches.
BTW,I love just writing "Aretha" on posts about music because I know when the time comes that someone finally asks "Aretha who?",it's time to have dirt thrown in my face because I will have truly outlived my time.
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@sneakypete
Gladys Knight & the Pips, "I Heard It Through the Grapevine"
@EasyAce
To this very day I can't make up my mind who did that song the best,Gladys,or CCR. I generally tend to lean towards CCR,but then I hear her version again,and things ain't as clear as they were before.
If you knew how big a fan of CCR I was back in those days,you would know this is saying something wonderful about Gladys Knight.
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@EasyAce
To this very day I can't make up my mind who did that song the best,Gladys,or CCR. I generally tend to lean towards CCR,but then I hear her version again,and things ain't as clear as they were before.
If you knew how big a fan of CCR I was back in those days,you would know this is saying something wonderful about Gladys Knight.
@sneakypete
I'm a lifelong Creedence Clearwater Revival and John Fogerty fan, but while it was fun to hear them jam "I Heard It Through the Grapevine" in their style, it just wasn't Gladys Knight & the Pips taking it to church! Some also swear by Marvin Gaye's version, which was a bigger hit than either of those, but while I like that version I've still got to hand the trophy to Gladys and her cousins . . .
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@sneakypete
I'm a lifelong Creedence Clearwater Revival and John Fogerty fan, but while it was fun to hear them jam "I Heard It Through the Grapevine" in their style, it just wasn't Gladys Knight & the Pips taking it to church! Some also swear by Marvin Gaye's version, which was a bigger hit than either of those, but while I like that version I've still got to hand the trophy to Gladys and her cousins . . .
I agree. Like GK and the P's and MG's versions much more than CCR. I like CCR overall better than those GK and MG, but that latter two do IHITTG much better than CCR. More soul to it.
Actually, not a big fan of the song, but it's interesting to hear the difference as to how certain musicians do their versions of a particular song.
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I agree. Like GK and the P's and MG's versions much more than CCR. I like CCR overall better than those GK and MG, but that latter two do IHITTG much better than CCR. More soul to it.
Actually, not a big fan of the song, but it's interesting to hear the difference as to how certain musicians do their versions of a particular song.
I liked it best when it was covered by the California Raisins. happy77
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I liked it best when it was covered by the California Raisins. happy77
Sorry, but they had just a little too much of the grape . . .
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Sorry, but they had just a little too much of the grape . . .
But I'm sure it was good American Napa Valley grape. happy77
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'Lean On Me' songwriter Bill Withers dead at 81
Bill Withers, known for writing and singing enduring hit songs from the 1970s such as "Lean on Me," "Lovely Day" and "Ain't No Sunshine," has died from heart complications at age 81.
Withers' family confirmed the news of his death to The Associated Press.
The three-time Grammy Award winner, who withdrew from making music in the mid-1980s and lived a private life outside the public eye, died on Monday in Los Angeles, the statement said.
https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/lean-on-me-songwriter-bill-withers-dead-at-81 (https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/lean-on-me-songwriter-bill-withers-dead-at-81)
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'Lean On Me' songwriter Bill Withers dead at 81
https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/lean-on-me-songwriter-bill-withers-dead-at-81 (https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/lean-on-me-songwriter-bill-withers-dead-at-81)
RIP. He made simplicity powerful.
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He's one of our favorite native sons here in WV:
... Withers, who overcame a childhood stutter, was born the last of six children in the coal mining town of Slab Fork, West Virginia. After his parents divorced when he was 3, Withers was raised by his mother’s family in nearby Beckley.
He joined the Navy at 17 and spent nine years in the service as an aircraft mechanic installing toilets. After his discharge, he moved to Los Angeles, worked at an aircraft parts factory, bought a guitar at a pawn shop and recorded demos of his tunes in hopes of landing a recording contract. ...
(from the FOX story linked above)
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'Lean On Me' songwriter Bill Withers dead at 81
https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/lean-on-me-songwriter-bill-withers-dead-at-81 (https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/lean-on-me-songwriter-bill-withers-dead-at-81)
I still sing "Lean on Me" with my Salvation Army afterschool educational program, and the kids love it. I played one of the boys Bill Withers' original, and he said, "He plays it just like you," and I replied, "Actually, I try to play it just like he did."
It's a song for the ages......
RIP, Mr. Withers!
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Interesting that Mr. Withers walked away from the music business years ago, although that might have been because he lost control over his music to the corporations and that made him unhappy. But I never heard anything bad about him -- unlike others who make it big, then get into all sorts of trouble with drink, drugs, "ho's" and what not. Seems he didn't let fame destroy him.
Error 404 (Not Found)!!1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YuKfiH0Scao#)
Rest in peace, Mr. Withers.
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Krzystof Penderecki - Contemporary Polish Composer dies at 86 (https://www.theguardian.com/music/2020/mar/29/krzysztof-penderecki-obituary)
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I had the great honor of being a part of the American premier performance of Penderecki's "St. Luke Passion" with the Minnesota Orchestra in Carnegie Hall in 1969.
NY Times 1969 review (https://www.nytimes.com/1969/03/07/archives/music-st-luke-passion-penderecki-work-wins-ovation-at-premiere.html)
It was one of the most significant musical experiences in my life.
His music was exceptionally difficult to perform and highly dissonant, but his portrayal of the Crucifixion of Christ was incredible.
RIP Mr. Penderecki
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'Lean On Me' songwriter Bill Withers dead at 81
https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/lean-on-me-songwriter-bill-withers-dead-at-81 (https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/lean-on-me-songwriter-bill-withers-dead-at-81)
@Applewood
There are just some people that should be allowed to remain young adults forever because of their gifts. Bill Withers was one of them.
Garth Brooks mentioned him by name and sang one of his songs as a tribute to great songs and songwriters when he was recently given his award by the Library of Congress.
Withers didn't need a stage full of musicians and 2 dozen back up dancers to get the audiences attention. He didn't even have to wear a costume. He just got up there and sang,and everybody stayed quiet and listened until he was done.
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‘Unicorn Killer’ Ira Einhorn Dies In Prison At 79
By CBS3 Staff
April 3, 2020 at 5:19 pm
PHILADELPHIA (CBS) — Notorious killer Ira Einhorn has died in prison. Einhorn, known as the “Unicorn Killer,†was found dead this morning at a prison outside of Pittsburgh. ...
Einhorn was serving a life sentencing for killing his girlfriend, Holly Maddux, in Philadelphia in 1977.
He spent years on the run before he was finally caught in France in 1997. ...
More at https://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2020/04/03/unicorn-killer-ira-einhorn-dies-in-prison-at-79/
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‘Unicorn Killer’ Ira Einhorn Dies In Prison At 79
By CBS3 Staff
April 3, 2020 at 5:19 pm
PHILADELPHIA (CBS) — Notorious killer Ira Einhorn has died in prison. Einhorn, known as the “Unicorn Killer,†was found dead this morning at a prison outside of Pittsburgh. ...
Einhorn was serving a life sentencing for killing his girlfriend, Holly Maddux, in Philadelphia in 1977.
He spent years on the run before he was finally caught in France in 1997. ...
More at https://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2020/04/03/unicorn-killer-ira-einhorn-dies-in-prison-at-79/
Just try to imagine all the oxygen,water,food,medical care,etc,etc,etc this monster "stole" while being locked away.
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He was reprehensible. Coincidentally, that murder was featured on one of those true crime shows last night.
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Just try to imagine all the oxygen,water,food,medical care,etc,etc,etc this monster "stole" while being locked away.
One of the beauties of believing in an afterlife is that those of his ilk get to meet their maker and answer for what and who they were.
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One of the beauties of believing in an afterlife is that those of his ilk get to meet their maker and answer for what and who they were.
Speaking of his Maker...
Error 404 (Not Found)!!1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HYZsB3mt_7k#)
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Just try to imagine all the oxygen,water,food,medical care,etc,etc,etc this monster "stole" while being locked away.
@sneakypete
Well, even if he had received the death sentence, he would probably have lived out his life in prison anyway. In this state, executions are as rare as hen's teeth. And with the current Dem Goobernor, Wolf there is a edict forbidding executions "temporarily" -- presumably until an investigation is completed into why more blacks are executed than whites. Or something. And you know, as long as there is a Dem governor, that "temporary" moratorium on executions will never be lifted. I'm not so sure Republicans in this state would lift it either.
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Tom Dempsey
Controversial record-setting placekicker dies at 73'
⚜ 19
Dempsey's number with the Saints
Dempsey was born with a congenital defect on his right foot that left him with a short stub. He joined the New Orleans Saints in 1969; he made the Pro Bowl and was an All-Pro his rookie season. In 1970, he made his most famous kick: a 63-yard field goal that stood for 43 years as the longest field goal in NFL history.
Controversy eventually arose suggesting that Dempsey's kicking foot posed an unfair advantage and that his kick—a full seven yards longer than the previous record set by Bert Rechicar—was evidence that field goals had become too easy. Over the course of the 1970s, the NFL moved the goal posts back ten yards and then made a rule requiring any kicker with a deformed foot to use a kicking shoe that resembles a normal shoe.
Despite Dempsey's record kick, the Saints did not retain him after the 1970 season. He spent a plurality of his career, four years, with the Philadelphia Eagles, then two with the Los Angeles Rams. The requirement to change his shoe in 1977 effectively ended Dempsey's effectiveness, and his last two stints with the Houston Oilers and Buffalo Bills were ineffective.
Dempsey suffered several tragedies in his later life; losing many of his possessions from flooding in Hurricane Katrina, he quipped that the hurricane could not take away the memories—only to lose much of his memory to a dementia diagnosis in 2013. He died April 4 following a seven-year battle with dementia, complicated by coronavirus caught in the nursing home where he was staying.
Obituary from Pro Football Talk (https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2020/04/05/tom-dempsey-dies-after-covid-19-battle/)
Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Dempsey)
Career stats (https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/D/DempTo20.htm)
Error 404 (Not Found)!!1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrxTjgFYoU8#)
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Rest in peace, Mr. Dempsey. And yes, that controversy over his record-setting kick was stupid.
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Speaking of his Maker...
Error 404 (Not Found)!!1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HYZsB3mt_7k#)
Hadn’t heard that Rick Wakeman song. Just “six wivesâ€
Holly Maddox’s family I hope is finally at peace.
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Tom Dempsey
Controversial record-setting placekicker dies at 73'
⚜ 19
Dempsey's number with the Saints
Dempsey was born with a congenital defect on his right foot that left him with a short stub. He joined the New Orleans Saints in 1969; he made the Pro Bowl and was an All-Pro his rookie season. In 1970, he made his most famous kick: a 63-yard field goal that stood for 43 years as the longest field goal in NFL history.
Controversy eventually arose suggesting that Dempsey's kicking foot posed an unfair advantage and that his kick—a full seven yards longer than the previous record set by Bert Rechicar—was evidence that field goals had become too easy. Over the course of the 1970s, the NFL moved the goal posts back ten yards and then made a rule requiring any kicker with a deformed foot to use a kicking shoe that resembles a normal shoe.
Despite Dempsey's record kick, the Saints did not retain him after the 1970 season. He spent a plurality of his career, four years, with the Philadelphia Eagles, then two with the Los Angeles Rams. The requirement to change his shoe in 1977 effectively ended Dempsey's effectiveness, and his last two stints with the Houston Oilers and Buffalo Bills were ineffective.
Dempsey suffered several tragedies in his later life; losing many of his possessions from flooding in Hurricane Katrina, he quipped that the hurricane could not take away the memories—only to lose much of his memory to a dementia diagnosis in 2013. He died April 4 following a seven-year battle with dementia, complicated by coronavirus caught in the nursing home where he was staying.
Obituary from Pro Football Talk (https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2020/04/05/tom-dempsey-dies-after-covid-19-battle/)
Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Dempsey)
Career stats (https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/D/DempTo20.htm)
Error 404 (Not Found)!!1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrxTjgFYoU8#)
Alex Karras said they didn't even rush Dempsey during his record fg attempt because they thought there's absolutely no way he could make it.
Karras quipped after the game "we thought they were going to kick the other way."
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I just read a NY Times story about the kick by a person who was there who said the stadium was virtually empty. And I read Karras's quote about not rushing Dempsey.
Both statements are false.
You can go to YT to watch the kick and see the stadium still had a lot of fans. And the Lions did rush Dempsey attempting to block the kick.
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I just read a NY Times story about the kick by a person who was there who said the stadium was virtually empty. And I read Karras's quote about not rushing Dempsey.
Both statements are false.
You can go to YT to watch the kick and see the stadium still had a lot of fans. And the Lions did rush Dempsey attempting to block the kick.
I was a 10 yr. old Saints fan at the time, and remember going outside to play, as I thought the game was over (lost). Too bad, I missed watching an NFL historic moment.
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@Applewood
There are just some people that should be allowed to remain young adults forever because of their gifts. Bill Withers was one of them.
Garth Brooks mentioned him by name and sang one of his songs as a tribute to great songs and songwriters when he was recently given his award by the Library of Congress.
Withers didn't need a stage full of musicians and 2 dozen back up dancers to get the audiences attention. He didn't even have to wear a costume. He just got up there and sang,and everybody stayed quiet and listened until he was done.
Plus he wrote one of the only songs I could never mess up the lyrics to while singing along - at least the 'I know I know I know' part.
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@EasyAce
To this very day I can't make up my mind who did that song the best,Gladys,or CCR. I generally tend to lean towards CCR,but then I hear her version again,and things ain't as clear as they were before.
If you knew how big a fan of CCR I was back in those days,you would know this is saying something wonderful about Gladys Knight.
@sneakypete Gotta disagree the best version of ALL TIME was the California Raisins.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UShiwymsX0w (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UShiwymsX0w)
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@sneakypete Gotta disagree the best version of ALL TIME was the California Raisins.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UShiwymsX0w (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UShiwymsX0w)
@verga
Well,they clearly had the best dance moves,anyhow.
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Honor Blackman, Star of 'The Avengers' and 'Goldfinger,' Dies at 94
Honor Blackman, the beguiling British actress who portrayed the leather-clad Cathy Gale on TV's The Avengers and then Bond girl bleep Galore in Goldfinger, has died. She was 94.
Blackman, who first won recognition for her performance as Elizabeth Taylor's friend in the MGM spy tale Conspirator (1949), died at her home in Lewes, Sussex, of natural causes unrelated to the coronavirus, her family told The Guardian.
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/honor-blackman-dead-goldfinger-avengers-actress-was-94-950932 (https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/honor-blackman-dead-goldfinger-avengers-actress-was-94-950932)
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She also became a writer:
‘Nun’s Story’ actress and biographer Patricia Bosworth dead at 86
By Storm Gifford New York Daily News | Apr 04, 2020
Patricia Bosworth, the renowned author who penned several biographies of Hollywood’s biggest stars after abandoning an acting career, is dead at 86.
Bosworth died Thursday in New York City from pneumonia brought on by coronavirus, her stepdaughter Fia Hatsav told The New York Times.
One of her most notable early movie roles was that of a hesitant postulant who discontinues her vocation in the 1959 drama “The Nun’s Story.â€
Read more at: https://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/movies/ny-patricia-bosworth-dead-at-86-20200404-c6rsv6govbhxlfjw3xszjnakhi-story.html (https://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/movies/ny-patricia-bosworth-dead-at-86-20200404-c6rsv6govbhxlfjw3xszjnakhi-story.html)
They were Nuns in Congo and by the end of the movie, they face the Nazis in Belgium. I forget exactly what this woman's role is but I have seen the movie with Audrey Hepburn.
Error 404 (Not Found)!!1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0zsVrOmRgpE#)
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Honor Blackman, Star of 'The Avengers' and 'Goldfinger,' Dies at 94
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/honor-blackman-dead-goldfinger-avengers-actress-was-94-950932 (https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/honor-blackman-dead-goldfinger-avengers-actress-was-94-950932)
Rip Ms. Galore.
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Al Kaline has passed away:
https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/al-kaline-detroit-tigers-legend-and-baseball-hall-of-famer-dies-at-85/ (https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/al-kaline-detroit-tigers-legend-and-baseball-hall-of-famer-dies-at-85/)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Kaline (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Kaline)
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Al Kaline has passed away:
https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/al-kaline-detroit-tigers-legend-and-baseball-hall-of-famer-dies-at-85/ (https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/al-kaline-detroit-tigers-legend-and-baseball-hall-of-famer-dies-at-85/)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Kaline (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Kaline)
I have a ball and bat autographed by the '68 World Series Tigers, including Al Kaline.
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Bobby Mitchell, former Cleveland Browns and Washington Redskins star, dies at 84
Jim Reineking, USA TODAY
Former Cleveland Browns and Washington Redskins star Bobby Mitchell, one of the premier offensive players of his era, died Sunday afternoon, the Pro Football Hall of Fame announced. He was 84.
"The entire Pro Football Hall of Fame family mourns the passing of Bobby Mitchell," Hall of Fame President & CEO David Baker said in a statement. "The Game lost a true legend today. Bobby was an incredible player, a talented executive and a real gentleman to everyone with whom he worked or competed against. His wife Gwen and their entire family remain in our thoughts and prayers. The Hall of Fame will forever keep his legacy alive to serve as inspiration to future generations."
Mitchell, a four-time Pro Bowl selection who excelled at two different positions, played four seasons for the Browns before he was part of one of the most famous trades in NFL history. The swap to the Redskins also meant a position change for Mitchell, who played flanker in Washington and led the NFL in receiving yards in his first two seasons with the team.
Read more at: https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/bobby-mitchell-former-cleveland-browns-and-washington-redskins-star-dies-at-84/ar-BB12cfg0 (https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/bobby-mitchell-former-cleveland-browns-and-washington-redskins-star-dies-at-84/ar-BB12cfg0)
Big time player, rest in peace.
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Big time player, rest in peace.
I remember at the time reading about the signing of Mitchell with the Redskins. The owner of the Redskins, George Preston Marshall, was one of the worst owners around. He was like those baseball owners in the American League who refused to hire or trade for black players.
Which cost the Redskins plenty. The Redskins was the last team in the NFL to sign a black player, Mitchell.
By the sixties, any sports team in any of the three major sports leagues (baseball, football, basketball) who didn't play black players was condemning their teams to be losers. Only the Yankees could get away with hardly playing black players i.e. Elston Howard because they corralled the best white players and had a deal with Kansas City to take their best white players.
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James Drury, star of NBC's long-running Western series 'The Virginian,' dies at 85
James Drury, who played the gruff title character of NBC's "The Virginian," has died. He was 85.
Drury's assistant, Karen Lindsey, confirmed the news to USA TODAY, writing that he died early Monday morning at his home in Houston, Texas, of natural causes.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/entertainment/tv/2020/04/06/james-drury-star-nbc-western-series-the-virginian-dead-85/2955966001/ (https://www.usatoday.com/story/entertainment/tv/2020/04/06/james-drury-star-nbc-western-series-the-virginian-dead-85/2955966001/)
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Great memories watching tv westerns as a kid with my Dad. Rest in peace, Mr. Drury.
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Honor Blackman, Star of 'The Avengers' and 'Goldfinger,' Dies at 94?
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/honor-blackman-dead-goldfinger-avengers-actress-was-94-950932 (https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/honor-blackman-dead-goldfinger-avengers-actress-was-94-950932)
@Applewood
94?
WOW! Time really does fly when you're not paying attention,doesn't it?
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@Applewood
94?
WOW! Time really does fly when you're not paying attention,doesn't it?
@sneakypete
I still picture her as bleep Galore. But then again I'm an old lady. When we get older, we remember stars as they were when they were young. If we saw them today, we would say, OMG, what happened? LOL
Edited to add:
Well, I've been edited. Ok, Mods, thanks. Kinda sad because at one time that name meant a cat. LOL
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‘Unicorn Killer’ Ira Einhorn Dies In Prison At 79
By CBS3 Staff
April 3, 2020 at 5:19 pm
A killer in P.C. clothing
by Michelle Malkin
Creators Syndicate
July 25, 2001
A BEAUTIFUL young woman vanishes. For months, her family searches in vain. They suspect her boyfriend, a secretive and arrogant older man who is active in public life. But his friends, including many famous members of the political and cultural elite, refuse to believe that their charismatic chum could be a suspect in any criminal wrongdoing. Frustrated with the police’s lack of progress, the missing woman’s family hires its own private investigators.
And waits and waits and waits for the nightmare to end.
Chandra Levy and Gary Condit? No, this is the tragic story of Holly Maddux and Ira Einhorn. New developments in the two-decade-old case barely registered a blip on the national media radar screen last week. That’s a crying shame. Holly Maddux deserves to be more than an afterthought. What makes this matter especially outrageous – and deadly instructive — is how Ira Einhorn remained a darling of the Left and a fugitive from justice for so long after Maddux was found. ...
Eighteen months after she went missing, detectives discovered her body stuffed and mummified inside a black steamer trunk hidden in Einhorn’s closet.
Maddux’s skull had multiple fractures and she had shrunk to less than 40 pounds. Experts say she was alive when she was forced into the trunk. Author Steven Levy wrote that when horrified cops informed Einhorn, who was waiting in his kitchen during the search, that the corpse looked like Maddux’s body, Einhorn coolly replied: “You found what you found.â€
The peaceniks rushed to Einhorn’s side and insisted he was incapable of violence — let alone the monstrous evil that befell Maddux. A parade of liberal aristocrats lavished praise on the accused murderer at his bail hearing. And Einhorn had the best legal representative in town – former district attorney and soon-to-be-U.S. Senator Arlen Specter, who won an obscenely reduced bail for Einhorn of $40,000. Wealthy socialite Barbara Bronfman of the Seagram’s liquor empire put up the measly $4,000 bond needed to spring Einhorn out of jail in 1981 before trial.
Einhorn fled. ... Rest of article (http://michellemalkin.com/2013/04/22/a-grisly-earth-day-reminder-eco-pacifist-fraud-ira-einhorn-a-killer-in-p-c-clothing/)
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Feel like I lost an old friend:
https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-country/john-prine-obit-253684/ (https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-country/john-prine-obit-253684/)
(https://www.rollingstone.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/john-prine-obit.jpg?resize=1800,1200&w=1200)
Also:
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/07/arts/music/john-prine-dead.html (https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/07/arts/music/john-prine-dead.html)
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Tom Dempsey Placekicker
Thomas John Dempsey (January 12, 1947 – April 4, 2020) was an American professional football player who was a placekicker in the National Football League (NFL) for the New Orleans Saints, Philadelphia Eagles, Los Angeles Rams, Houston Oilers and Buffalo Bills. Unlike the "soccer style" approach which was becoming more and more widely used during his career, Dempsey's kicking style was the then-standard straight-toe style.[1]
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Feel like I lost an old friend:
https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-country/john-prine-obit-253684/ (https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-country/john-prine-obit-253684/)
(https://www.rollingstone.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/john-prine-obit.jpg?resize=1800,1200&w=1200)
Also:
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/07/arts/music/john-prine-dead.html (https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/07/arts/music/john-prine-dead.html)
We did, in a way. RIP, John.
Error 404 (Not Found)!!1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DEhqzOeJnto#)
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Losing John Prine is a big loss.
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Losing John Prine is a big loss.
I'm devastated. I've been listening to his music for 40 years. What a loss.
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I'm devastated. I've been listening to his music for 40 years. What a loss.
Me too. RIP John and thanks for the tunes.
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Feel like I lost an old friend:
Also:
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/07/arts/music/john-prine-dead.html (https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/07/arts/music/john-prine-dead.html)
@Fishrrman
You did,I did,we all did.
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Shocker, Linda Tripp dead: https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/apr/8/linda-tripp-clinton-sex-scandal-whistleblower-dead/?utm_source=onesignal&utm_campaign=pushnotify&utm_medium=push (https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/apr/8/linda-tripp-clinton-sex-scandal-whistleblower-dead/?utm_source=onesignal&utm_campaign=pushnotify&utm_medium=push)
Linda Tripp, Clinton sex scandal whistleblower, dead at 70
By Washington Times Staff - - Wednesday, April 8, 2020
Linda Tripp, whose phone recordings of conversations with Monica Lewinsky snowballed into the impeachment trial of then-President Bill Clinton, had died. She was 70.
Her daughter said she was on her death bed earlier this week, the New York Post reported.
Very sad to hear this. My...
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Shocker, Linda Tripp dead: https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/apr/8/linda-tripp-clinton-sex-scandal-whistleblower-dead/?utm_source=onesignal&utm_campaign=pushnotify&utm_medium=push (https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/apr/8/linda-tripp-clinton-sex-scandal-whistleblower-dead/?utm_source=onesignal&utm_campaign=pushnotify&utm_medium=push)
Very sad to hear this. My...
8888crybaby
I wonder if Lewinsky ever admitted to herself Linda Tripp saved her life?
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Daily Mail says Miss Tripp had just been diagnosed with pancreatic cancer. How reliable the Mail is though -- I don't know.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8201623/Monica-Lewinsky-tweets-wishes-Clinton-sex-scandal-whisteblower-Linda-Tripp-dying.html (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8201623/Monica-Lewinsky-tweets-wishes-Clinton-sex-scandal-whisteblower-Linda-Tripp-dying.html)
Rest in peace, Miss Tripp.
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Me too. RIP John and thanks for the tunes.
I must admit that the first thing that came to my mind when I heard of John's passing was "Please don't bury me down in that cold, cold ground... I'd rather have 'em cut me up and pass me all around..."
Made me smile a bit.
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I wonder if Lewinsky ever admitted to herself Linda Tripp saved her life?
Seriously. Crossing the Clintons has proven fatal for many.
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8888crybaby
I wonder if Lewinsky ever admitted to herself Linda Tripp saved her life?
I doubt it, but it certainly could be true!
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I must admit that the first thing that came to my mind when I heard of John's passing was "Please don't bury me down in that cold, cold ground... I'd rather have 'em cut me up and pass me all around..."
Made me smile a bit.
Your post brought a smile to me. First one that came to my mind was That's The Way The World Goes Round.
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8888crybaby
I wonder if Lewinsky ever admitted to herself Linda Tripp saved her life?
I don't know, but it seems Lewinsky showed class upon hearing Tripp was sick:
On Twitter on Wednesday, Ms. Lewinsky wrote: “no matter the past, upon hearing that linda tripp is very seriously ill, i hope for her recovery. i can’t imagine how difficult this is for her family.â€
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‘The Virginian’ Western Lead Actor James Drury Dies Aged 85
https://mb.ntd.com/the-virginian-western-actor-james-drury-dies-aged-85_453817.html (https://mb.ntd.com/the-virginian-western-actor-james-drury-dies-aged-85_453817.html)
I don't think I saw this posted.
' The Virginian', 90 minute Western. Still shows on Direct TV, good show but a bit too long.
http://www.bing.com/amp/s/variety.com/2020/tv/news/james-drury-dead-dies-the-virginian-1234572123/amp/ (http://www.bing.com/amp/s/variety.com/2020/tv/news/james-drury-dead-dies-the-virginian-1234572123/amp/)
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I see 'the Virginian' is aired on Direct TV channel 364, INSPHD , so a religious station but I mainly see old Westerns on it.
Error 404 (Not Found)!!1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hjjUlljGNK0#)
Doug McClure too. Wyoming territory.
In fact, it is on right now. I liked the "Big Valley" too, a bit of a different type of Western.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Virginian_(TV_series) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Virginian_(TV_series))
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I see 'the Virginian' is aired on Direct TV channel 364, INSPHD , so a religious station but I mainly see old Westerns on it.
Error 404 (Not Found)!!1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hjjUlljGNK0#)
Doug McClure too. Wyoming territory.
In fact, it is on right now. I liked the "Big Valley" too, a bit of a different type of Western.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Virginian_(TV_series) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Virginian_(TV_series))
My husband had a crush on Linda Evans (Audra Barkley). Before me, of course! wink777
Good show.
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Mad’ Magazine Cartoonist Mort Drucker Dead at 91
Mort Drucker, the cartoonist and caricaturist who helped satirize decades of pop culture in the pages of Mad magazine, died Wednesday, The New York Times reports. He was 91.
A cause of death was not given, though Drucker’s friend, John Reiner, confirmed his death. The National Cartoonists Society also confirmed his death, with member and illustrator Tom Richmond writing in tribute, “Mort was a true master of the craft of visual storytelling, and his work transcended the boundaries of the different applications of the comic medium. He could do it all, from realistic comic book work to the silliest of cartoons to everything in between.â€
Drucker was a self-taught illustrator and freelance cartoonist who joined Mad in 1956 and soon took a regularly recurring bit — film and TV show parodies — and turned it into a defining staple of the humor magazine. His first was a spoof of the Fifties court drama, Perry Mason, and over the next 50-plus years he illustrated a total of 238 of them, riffing on everything from Star Wars and Saturday Night Fever to Yentl and Forrest Gump. His last film parody was published in 2008, a send-up of The Chronicles of Narnia: Prince Caspian titled The Chronic-Ills of Yawnia: Prince Thespian.
https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-news/mort-drucker-mad-magazine-cartoonist-dead-obituary-981159/ (https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-news/mort-drucker-mad-magazine-cartoonist-dead-obituary-981159/)
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Mad’ Magazine Cartoonist Mort Drucker Dead at 91
https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-news/mort-drucker-mad-magazine-cartoonist-dead-obituary-981159/ (https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-news/mort-drucker-mad-magazine-cartoonist-dead-obituary-981159/)
RIP Mr. Drucker! Thank You!
I still smile when I see MAD...
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RIP Mr. Drucker! Thank You!
I still smile when I see MAD...
I still have a subscription! :silly:
What me worry?
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I still have a subscription! :silly:
What me worry?
I haven't seen a fresh copy in years, but with some things I am a pack rat. Books, of course, and selected magazines (just a couple) and some old comic books. But when I see a copy, it takes me right back to my younger days...
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Mad’ Magazine Cartoonist Mort Drucker Dead at 91
https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-news/mort-drucker-mad-magazine-cartoonist-dead-obituary-981159/ (https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-news/mort-drucker-mad-magazine-cartoonist-dead-obituary-981159/)
@Gefn
Amusing story about Mort Drucker---when lawyers for George Lucas tried to slap Drucker and Mad with litigation over their parody "The Empire Throws Up," Mad publisher William M. Gaines shot back with a brief note . . . and a letter Lucas himself had sent the magazine calling Drucker "the Leonardo da Vinci of comic satire." Gaine's note said, simply, "George likes it."
End of litigation.
Here's Drucker in 1966, satirising television's Batman in "Bats-Man". (http://www.66batman.com/misc_pdf/bats_man.pdf)
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Thanks @EasyAce
I’m almost starting to dread looking at obits now. Peace to all.
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I haven't seen a fresh copy in years, but with some things I am a pack rat. Books, of course, and selected magazines (just a couple) and some old comic books. But when I see a copy, it takes me right back to my younger days...
I still have these Mad anthologies:
(https://static.secure.website/wscfus/5177501/uploads/THE_BEDSIDE_MAD_195911.jpg) (https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcQ3dyR1psTOPZ4yhXMq5EUYy2mLy28EDwb2GyXNkEsUGnFVpABB&usqp=CAU) (https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51dcv7MYJbL._SX299_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg) (https://static.secure.website/wscfus/5177501/uploads/MAD_IN_ORBIT_196211.jpg)
(https://static.secure.website/wscfus/5177501/uploads/BOILING_MAD_196611.jpg) (https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/511HSN3cqOL._SX296_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg)
(https://dyn1.heritagestatic.com/lf?set=path%5B1%2F7%2F1%2F7%2F3%2F17173689%5D&call=url%5Bfile%3Aproduct.chain%5D)
(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/cFoAAOSw11BcGGHh/s-l300.jpg) (https://thumbs.worthpoint.com/zoom/images1/1/0608/15/mad-for-decades-hard-cover-book-mad-magazine_1_94414bf34143dad294980736001e6f35.jpg)
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Wonderful! Don Martin was as much a favorite as Gahan Wilson (different publication).
Far beyond my meager and threadbare assemblage!
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RIP Mr. Drucker! Thank You!
I still smile when I see MAD...
@Smokin Joe
Me,too. Never missed an issue either Mad or Cracked when I was a kid. Didn't have a clue was satire was back then,but I knew I liked it!
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I haven't seen a fresh copy in years, but with some things I am a pack rat. Books, of course, and selected magazines (just a couple) and some old comic books. But when I see a copy, it takes me right back to my younger days...
@Smokin Joe
Remember "The Fabulous Furry Freak Brothers",and "Fat Freddy" and his cat?
GREAT stuff. I had every issue at one time,and my mother threw them away. He excuse was "Well,you had already read them".
Hell,she had already given away all my uniforms and other stuff I sent home when I was medievaced from VN,and had already given it all away before I got home to discover the only clothes I had to wear were the dress greens I was wearing. Her excuse that time was "You can always get more uniforms from the army,and wear them."
She also gave away the new jungle boots,the new poncho liners,and all sorts of other personal items in the crate. Because of her "generosity",I didn't have a single set of jungle fatigues to wear when I got to Bragg.
She did that with everything that wasn't of immediate use. Did it her whole life,and you just couldn't break her of it.
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Thanks @EasyAce
I’m almost starting to dread looking at obits now. Peace to all.
Me too. Don't need the reminder of how fast time has passed.
Loved Mad Magazine, though. One of it's founders - can't remember which - related a story about the magazine's entire 'executive board' flying to Haiti (or similar place) and going to the house of the island's only subscriber to try to convince him to reconsider.
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@Gefn
Amusing story about Mort Drucker---when lawyers for George Lucas tried to slap Drucker and Mad with litigation over their parody "The Empire Throws Up," Mad publisher William M. Gaines shot back with a brief note . . . and a letter Lucas himself had sent the magazine calling Drucker "the Leonardo da Vinci of comic satire." Gaine's note said, simply, "George likes it."
End of litigation.
Here's Drucker in 1966, satirising television's Batman in "Bats-Man". (http://www.66batman.com/misc_pdf/bats_man.pdf)
A great cartoonist. Thanks for the link to Bats-Man! A Blast from the Past!
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@Smokin Joe
Remember "The Fabulous Furry Freak Brothers",and "Fat Freddy" and his cat?
GREAT stuff. I had every issue at one time,and my mother threw them away. He excuse was "Well,you had already read them".
Hell,she had already given away all my uniforms and other stuff I sent home when I was medievaced from VN,and had already given it all away before I got home to discover the only clothes I had to wear were the dress greens I was wearing. Her excuse that time was "You can always get more uniforms from the army,and wear them."
She also gave away the new jungle boots,the new poncho liners,and all sorts of other personal items in the crate. Because of her "generosity",I didn't have a single set of jungle fatigues to wear when I got to Bragg.
She did that with everything that wasn't of immediate use. Did it her whole life,and you just couldn't break her of it.
My mother threw out all my baseball cards ( a number of them very valuable) and all my comic books including early Marvel Comics also valuable. When I asked her why she did it, she replied, "I didn't think you wanted them anymore." They were all stored in a special cabinet in my room. They were in no way cluttering up the room or the house. She never asked me if I wanted to keep them.
Thanks a lot mom.
I love the "logic" of the people who throw your things away because they thought (without asking you if you wanted to keep them) that you've already read them.
Well then, we should be able to throw out things they've used, like records, tapes, etc. because they've already heard them.
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Wonderful! Don Martin was as much a favorite as Gahan Wilson (different publication).
Far beyond my meager and threadbare assemblage!
Loved Don Martin. I still remember the one about the seven day rat race, and I still laugh after fifty or more years.
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@Smokin Joe
Remember "The Fabulous Furry Freak Brothers",and "Fat Freddy" and his cat?
GREAT stuff. I had every issue at one time,and my mother threw them away. He excuse was "Well,you had already read them".
Hell,she had already given away all my uniforms and other stuff I sent home when I was medievaced from VN,and had already given it all away before I got home to discover the only clothes I had to wear were the dress greens I was wearing. Her excuse that time was "You can always get more uniforms from the army,and wear them."
She also gave away the new jungle boots,the new poncho liners,and all sorts of other personal items in the crate. Because of her "generosity",I didn't have a single set of jungle fatigues to wear when I got to Bragg.
She did that with everything that wasn't of immediate use. Did it her whole life,and you just couldn't break her of it.
Man, you really needed a bro you could trust to sit on your stuff until you caught up with it.
A lot of stuff I had at my folks' got ruined, but that was humidity, salt air, time, and silverfish, who literally ate the ink off the pages, right down to a 4X8 Nixon Agnew campaign poster. One little Carter for Prez poster survived. I guess those bugs wouldn't even eat it... :shrug:
A few things survived, most did not, and some just got lost along the way. Ones I miss most were a ca. 1720 (brass) wedding band I found, and the WWII Army Air Force Flight Pants I had, that I wore in -60 weather w/a 40 MPH wind and still stayed functionally warm. (The Nomex III outfit I replaced them with years later cost over a grand, and just isn't the same as the old ones). Lately winters have been so warm that all that cold weather gear is too hot to wear outside, especially if a guy is doing anything much. Funny, though, how I still have my first p38, a gift from a friend, hanging on a key chain.
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@Smokin Joe
Remember "The Fabulous Furry Freak Brothers",and "Fat Freddy" and his cat?
@sneakypete
Gilbert Shelton was awesome.
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Merle's been dead for four years now.
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Merle's been dead for four years now.
Shhhh. I'm not passing up an opportunity for a music interlude.
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Merle's been dead for four years now.
What the heck. His death keeps popping up online.
I need to get out more.
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What the heck. His death keeps popping up online.
The way Keith Richards does not... :whistle:
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The way Keith Richards does not... :whistle:
LOL Well, the joke is that Richards died three years ago, but no one told him yet. I expect when it does happen, people will want proof he's really gone.
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@Smokin Joe
Remember "The Fabulous Furry Freak Brothers",and "Fat Freddy" and his cat?
GREAT stuff. I had every issue at one time,and my mother threw them away. He excuse was "Well,you had already read them".
Hell,she had already given away all my uniforms and other stuff I sent home when I was medievaced from VN,and had already given it all away before I got home to discover the only clothes I had to wear were the dress greens I was wearing. Her excuse that time was "You can always get more uniforms from the army,and wear them."
She also gave away the new jungle boots,the new poncho liners,and all sorts of other personal items in the crate. Because of her "generosity",I didn't have a single set of jungle fatigues to wear when I got to Bragg.
She did that with everything that wasn't of immediate use. Did it her whole life,and you just couldn't break her of it.
I still have a stack of Fabulous Furry Freak Brothers magazines in my closet. Best enjoyed while smoking stuff I no longer smoke. Far out, man.
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I still have a stack of Fabulous Furry Freak Brothers magazines in my closet. Best enjoyed while smoking stuff I no longer smoke. Far out, man.
I never smoked dope, but I still found the FFFBs hilarious. Gilbert Shelton is maybe the greatest almost totally unknown comic strip writer ever.
I also read a lot of Crumb. Much of his biographical stuff is hilarious even though he's a total liberal wimp. His digs at feminists are fun to read.
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I never smoked dope, but I still found the FFFBs hilarious. Gilbert Shelton is maybe the greatest almost totally unknown comic strip writer ever.
I also read a lot of Crumb. Much of his biographical stuff is hilarious even though he's a total liberal wimp. His digs at feminists are fun to read.
@goatprairie
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My mother threw out all my baseball cards ( a number of them very valuable) and all my comic books including early Marvel Comics also valuable. When I asked her why she did it, she replied, "I didn't think you wanted them anymore." They were all stored in a special cabinet in my room. They were in no way cluttering up the room or the house. She never asked me if I wanted to keep them.
Thanks a lot mom.
I love the "logic" of the people who throw your things away because they thought (without asking you if you wanted to keep them) that you've already read them.
Well then, we should be able to throw out things they've used, like records, tapes, etc. because they've already heard them.
@goatprairie
Since I am still mad about this decades later,I obviously agree with your anger,but your suggestion wouldn't work with either of my parents because they never had anything they didn't actually need right THEN until they were adults. My mother and her little sister were orphaned when she was 8 by the flu,and sent to l live with someone who needed domestic help,and my father had to quit school in the 3rd grade after his father died. He went to work in a shipyard as a laborer to help his mother feed his younger brothers and sister.
Neither ever had anything they didn't need until they were in their 30's.
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My mother threw out all my baseball cards ( a number of them very valuable) and all my comic books including early Marvel Comics also valuable. When I asked her why she did it, she replied, "I didn't think you wanted them anymore." They were all stored in a special cabinet in my room. They were in no way cluttering up the room or the house. She never asked me if I wanted to keep them.
Thanks a lot mom.
Child abuse!! wink777
I love the "logic" of the people who throw your things away because they thought (without asking you if you wanted to keep them) that you've already read them.
Well then, we should be able to throw out things they've used, like records, tapes, etc. because they've already heard them.
I didn't have to go that far. All I ever had to do was remind my mother that any generation who could make a hit out of "Mairzy Doats" had no business talking about my music! wink777
Guaranteed to keep her meathooks off my music library.
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Child abuse!! wink777
I didn't have to go that far. All I ever had to do was remind my mother that any generation who could make a hit out of "Mairzy Doats" had no business talking about my music! wink777
Guaranteed to keep her meathooks off my music library.
Of all the old things I wish I still had, the photos of a Braves-Dodgers game at Milwaukee County Stadium in 1960 are the things I miss the most.
I went down to the railing and took five or six pictures of Eddie Mathews batting against Don Drysdale that turned out perfect. What happened to them years later I do not know.
I remember after taking the snaps turning around to go back to my seat where my father and my older brother were sitting (about 20-30 rows back of the first base dugout) and seeing all these people in the stands looking at me. I'm sure they thought "what a nervy little kid."
Ten years old at the time.
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Of all the old things I wish I still had, the photos of a Braves-Dodgers game at Milwaukee County Stadium in 1960 are the things I miss the most.
I went down to the railing and took five or six pictures of Eddie Mathews batting against Don Drysdale that turned out perfect. What happened to them years later I do not know.
I remember after taking the snaps turning around to go back to my seat where my father and my older brother were sitting (about 20-30 rows back of the first base dugout) and seeing all these people in the stands looking at me. I'm sure they thought "what a nervy little kid."
Ten years old at the time.
Thank God for telephoto lenses. I got to take this of a certain Dodger a few years ago . . . from down the right field line . . . moments before an Angel named Kole Calhoun took him over the out-of-town scoreboard under the right field bleachers . . .
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Took this a year later . . . from the same area down the right field line . . .
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Colby Cave, Edmonton Oilers forward who had been in coma due to brain bleed, dies at 25
By Andy Clayton
New York Daily News |
Apr 11, 2020 | 10:59 AM
Edmonton Oilers forward Colby Cave has died due to the brain bleed he suffered earlier in the week. He was 25.
“It is with great sadness to share the news that our Colby Cave passed away early this morning,†his family said in a statement. "I (Emily) and both our families are in shock but know our Colby was loved dearly by us, his family and friends, the entire hockey community, and many more. ...
The Battleford, Saskatchewan native had been airlifted to a Toronto hospital on Tuesday where he underwent emergency surgery. A colloid cyst was causing pressure on his brain. The young NHLer had then been placed in a medically induced coma. ...
NY Daily News (https://www.nydailynews.com/sports/hockey/ny-colby-cave-edmonton-oilers-nhl-dies-20200411-jx5mea33ifdbxguusoyu5yimgy-story.html)
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‘M*A*S*H’ actor Timothy Brown dies aged 82 following dementia complications
By Jami Ganz
New York Daily News |
Apr 10, 2020 | 2:17 PM
“M*A*S*H†actor Timothy Brown has died at 82.
The actor and former NFL running back died Saturday following complications related to dementia, Fox News reported Friday. ...
In the film, he played Cpl. Judson, and in the series, he played Capt. Oliver Harmon “Spearchucker†Jones, who was written out after season one. ...
He played in the NFL for the Green Bay Packers, the Philadelphia Eagles, and the Baltimore Colts. ...
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Daily News (https://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/ny-mash-actor-timothy-brown-dead-20200410-cdyaez265ffs3orcv4ke2elvx4-story.html#nt=oft-Single%20Chain~Flex%20Feature~new-center-chain~mash-obit-219p~~1~yes-art~curated~curatedpage)
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Wow. The Tom Dempsey obit talked about dementia, this with Timothy Brown, former NFLer, talks about dementia. Not good signs. I know of another case that is similar. I've loved the sport but it seems to happen to often. Rest in peace, both of them.
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‘M*A*S*H’ actor Timothy Brown dies aged 82 following dementia complications
@mountaineer
82 years old is a good run for someone that played professional feetsball. They get smacked around a great deal.
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Wow. The Tom Dempsey obit talked about dementia, this with Timothy Brown, former NFLer, talks about dementia. Not good signs. I know of another case that is similar. I've loved the sport but it seems to happen to often. Rest in peace, both of them.
@TomSea
Why is anyone surprised about this? It is the natural result of having your "bell rung" too many times.
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@mountaineer
82 years old is a good run for someone that played professional feetsball. They get smacked around a great deal.
Can you imagine Hollywood making a movie now where one of the character's name is "Spear Chunker"?
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Can you imagine Hollywood making a movie now where one of the character's name is "Spear Chunker"?
@catfish1957
Nope,de lawsoots,day bees a-fly-IN!
Back then practically everyone was capable of recognizing humor.
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Of all the old things I wish I still had, the photos of a Braves-Dodgers game at Milwaukee County Stadium in 1960 are the things I miss the most.
I went down to the railing and took five or six pictures of Eddie Mathews batting against Don Drysdale that turned out perfect. What happened to them years later I do not know.
@goatprairie
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I was there (Atlanta) in '69 when Rico Carty came back from TB.
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Can you imagine Hollywood making a movie now where one of the character's name is "Spear Chunker"?
it's like Blazing Saddles. The delicate snowflakes today would be rioting in the streets over a movie like that.
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@goatprairie
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I was there (Atlanta) in '69 when Rico Carty came back from TB.
You forgot someone . . . wink777
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Colby Cave, Edmonton Oilers forward who had been in coma due to brain bleed, dies at 25
By Andy Clayton
New York Daily News |
Apr 11, 2020 | 10:59 AMNY Daily News (https://www.nydailynews.com/sports/hockey/ny-colby-cave-edmonton-oilers-nhl-dies-20200411-jx5mea33ifdbxguusoyu5yimgy-story.html)
That's very sad. Rest in peace.
Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colby_Cave (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colby_Cave)
Just suffered this brain bleed days ago in April. More brain trauma? Rest in peace. Sad.
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Mark Steyn writes of Linda Tripp:
... She was a not unattractive woman, but the left is unforgiving to those who refuse to overlook their heroes' pathologies (as we're currently seeing with Joe Biden's accuser), so Linda was turned into the pantomime dame of the cast: "Saturday Night Live" hired John Goodman to play her for the duration. Terminated by the federal government, she retreated to life as the proprietor of a German-themed Christmas shop - until, as with a remarkable number of those who cross the Clintons, she predeceased them. ...
Mrs Clinton has done her best to surround her husband with only the most fearsome specimens of the fairer sex, from Madeleine Albright to Janet Reno. But you could nail a government health warning to the White House door - 'Abandon hope all ye who intern here' - and some impressionable young coed would always break through. ...
Entire piece at Steyn Online (https://www.steynonline.com/10206/tripp-wire)
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You forgot someone . . . wink777
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Great photos...thanks a big heap. Or in this case, an un-p.c. heap big thanks.
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Eagles Great, NFL Champion Pete Retzlaff Dies at Age 88
Only six players in franchise history have made more Pro Bowls than Pete Retzlaff, who also served as the Eagles' general manager from 1969 to 1972
By Reuben Frank • Published April 10, 2020
Pete Retzlaff, who never caught a pass in college but caught 452 of them during his brilliant 11-year career with the Eagles, died Friday.
He was 88.
Retzlaff, whose No. 44 is one of only nine numbers retired by the Eagles, was a five-time Pro Bowler, first-team all-pro and 1989 inductee into the Eagles Hall of Fame.
Read more at: https://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/sports/eagles/eagles-great-nfl-champion-pete-retzlaff-dies-at-age-88/2359788/ (https://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/sports/eagles/eagles-great-nfl-champion-pete-retzlaff-dies-at-age-88/2359788/)
Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pete_Retzlaff)
2nd from left, with Sonny Jurgenson, 1st.
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Former Chicago Cubs infielder Glenn Beckert dies at 79
https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/mlb/cubs/2020/04/12/glenn-beckert-four-time-all-star-infielder-cubs-dies-79/2978934001/ (https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/mlb/cubs/2020/04/12/glenn-beckert-four-time-all-star-infielder-cubs-dies-79/2978934001/)
Second baseman Glenn Beckert, a mainstay on the Chicago Cubs infield from 1965-73, has died at age 79.
The Cubs confirmed Beckert's death in a social media post on Sunday morning.
Beckert won a Gold Glove award for his fielding excellence in 1968, when he also led the National League with 98 runs scored and finished ninth in the NL MVP balloting. He was also named to four consecutive NL All-Star teams, starting in 1969.
The Cubs traded Beckert to the San Diego Padres after the 1973 season and he played the final two years of his career in San Diego.
Over nine seasons in the majors, Beckert complied 1,473 hits, scored 685 runs and finished with a .283 average . . .
Made a terrific keystone partner with good-field/no-hit shortstop Don Kessinger.
RIP.
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T-Jack has passed away in a car accident:
NFL STAR KILLED Ex-Vikings QB Tarvaris Jackson dead at 36 following car crash in Alabama
Breaking
Mollie Mansfield
Apr 13 2020, 9:57 ETUpdated: Apr 13 2020, 10:53 ET
Former Super Bowl Champion Tarvaris Jackson has died at age 36 following a car crash in the NFL star's hometown.
The former Minnesota Vikings quarterback was involved in a wreck in Alabama on Sunday night, RapSheet reported.
Responding to the news, Jackson's former Seattle Seahawks teammate Richard Sherman tweeted crying emoji's.
Read more at: https://www.the-sun.com/sport/676246/nfl-tarvaris-jackson-dead/?utm_medium=browser_notifications&utm_source=pushly (https://www.the-sun.com/sport/676246/nfl-tarvaris-jackson-dead/?utm_medium=browser_notifications&utm_source=pushly)
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Former Chicago Cubs infielder Glenn Beckert dies at 79
https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/mlb/cubs/2020/04/12/glenn-beckert-four-time-all-star-infielder-cubs-dies-79/2978934001/ (https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/mlb/cubs/2020/04/12/glenn-beckert-four-time-all-star-infielder-cubs-dies-79/2978934001/)
Made a terrific keystone partner with good-field/no-hit shortstop Don Kessinger.
RIP.
I wonder if they ever did one of those analytic things contrasting a good hitting-fair defensive SS vs. a great fielding-light hitting one.
Kessinger, Jerry Kindall, Mark Belanger were some of those skinny SSs.
vs. the Honus Wagner- Cal Ripken types.
According to photos and descriptions, Wagner was built like an ape....huge chest, bow legs, long arms, huge hands....it would sure been interesting to see him play.
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I wonder if they ever did one of those analytic things contrasting a good hitting-fair defensive SS vs. a great fielding-light hitting one.
Bill James did a few times, in his old annual Baseball Abstracts and in The New Bill James Historical Baseball Abstract.
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Bill James did a few times, in his old annual Baseball Abstracts and in The New Bill James Historical Baseball Abstract.
And his conclusions were?
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And his conclusions were?
Generally (I'm summarising all the ones I did see) that players like Honus Wagner in his time were anomalous among middle infielders, even in an era where hitting wasn't all that tough or dangerous and a middle infielder was more vulnerable to hard sliding than hard hitting coming his way; and, that decades later middle infielders like Joe Morgan, Cal Ripken, Ryne Sandberg, Roberto Alomar, Nomar Garciaparra, and Alex Rodriguez were likewise---you didn't see too many middle infielders who had their kind of batting skills (with and without power hitting thrown in) too often, particularly when you consider that middle infield play is as rough as it gets. They still seem few and far between enough now, with certain exceptions to the rule.
Sandberg in particular was even more anomalous---he had the batting skills of a number three or even a cleanup hitter but he was almost never batted in those spots. And for a good portion of his career, the Cubs had a first baseman who had the batting skills more of an early-in-the-order man than a number three or cleanup hitter, yet Mark Grace was batted number three for just about his entire career. You wonder: 1) Sandberg would probably have been a Hall of Famer wherever he batted, but you can't help pondering how much thicker his batting stats would have been if he'd been batted third or cleanup. 2) Grace fell short of the Hall of Fame but you can't help wondering, looking at his batting stats, whether he'd have crossed the threshold if he'd been batted where his skills really belonged, in the number two hole that Sandberg usually occupied.
But then that was still an era in which the Cubs were many things but forward or out-of-the-box thinkers wasn't one of those things. They were still wedded to the idea that a middle infielder belonged at or near the top of the order and a first baseman belonged in the middle. They didn't stop to think about those players' batting skills as they actually were and batting them accordingly. They were hardly the only team guilty of that.
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Doug Sanders, 20-time PGA Tour winner and four-time major runner-up, dies
By Joel Beall
April 12, 2020Doug Sanders, one of the more colorful personalities in the PGA Tour's tapestry, died in Houston on Sunday.
Sanders was a 20-time winner on Tour, which included a victory at the 1956 Canadian Open as an amateur, the last amateur to win a Tour event until Scott Verplank's victory in the 1985 Western Open. But Sanders was just as well known for finishing second 20 times, including four runner-ups at majors, the most notable coming at the 1970 Open Championship after failing to convert a three-foot putt at St. Andrews. Sanders would lose to Jack Nicklaus the next day in an 18-hole playoff by a shot. ...
Sanders was also famous for his bright ensembles. His wardrobes, often painted in rainbow colors, led to the nickname "the Peacock of the Fairways," and he was once named by Esquire as one of America’s “Ten Best Dressed Jocks." He told Golf Digest in 2007, "The two most frequent questions on tour were, ‘What did Arnold Palmer shoot?’ and ‘What’s Doug Sanders wearing?' " Sanders boasted that he owned over 350 pairs of golf and dress shoes, and operated his own dry cleaning chain in the 1960s. ...
Sanders died Sunday of natural causes. He was 86 years old.
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Story at Golf Digest (https://www.golfdigest.com/story/doug-sanders-20-time-pga-tour-winner-and-four-time-major-runner-up-dies?mbid=social_twitter)
This story (https://www.bunkered.co.uk/golf-news/doug-sanders-the-extraordinary-life-of-golfs-original-playboy) recounts some of his adventures, his being an honorary member of the Rat Pack, and other exploits.
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Karl-Anthony Towns' Mom Dies After Battle With Coronavirus
4/13/2020 12:56 PM PT
Tragic news ... Karl-Anthony Towns' mother, Jacqueline Towns, has died after a lengthy battle with coronavirus.
The Minnesota Timberwolves star announced last month his mom contracted the disease in mid-March ... and was put in a medically induced coma shortly after because of complications.
But, the T-Wolves said Monday she succumbed to the virus.
See more at: https://www.tmz.com/2020/04/13/karl-anthony-towns-mom-dies-after-battle-with-coronavirus/ (https://www.tmz.com/2020/04/13/karl-anthony-towns-mom-dies-after-battle-with-coronavirus/)
My deepest condolences and prayers.
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Hank Steinbrenner, Yankees co-owner, dead at 63
New York Post
Hank Steinbrenner, general partner and co-chairperson of the Yankees, died early Tuesday morning due to a lengthy illness at his Clearwater, Fla. residence surrounded by family members. He was 63.
According to a source the cause of death was not COVID-19.
Steinbrenner was in his 13th year as general partner and 11th as co-chairperson . . .
. . . in recent years Hank Steinbrenner hasn’t been seen around the Yankees much and heard from less as the more reserved Hal Steinbrenner moved to the forefront of the operation, serving as the public face of the Yankees and representing the club at owners’ meetings . . .
Also father of four and grandfather of one.
RIP.
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Hank Steinbrenner, Yankees co-owner, dead at 63
New York Post
Also father of four and grandfather of one.
RIP.
RIP indeed. COVID-19 is not a lengthy illness, so I would expect it wasn't.
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RIP indeed. COVID-19 is not a lengthy illness, so I would expect it wasn't.
Jon Heyman of MLB Network just reported he suffered liver issues.
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Former Royals, Cubs manager Jim Frey dies at age 88
ESPN
Former Kansas City Royals and Chicago Cubs manager Jim Frey died Sunday at age 88.
"We join the baseball community in mourning Jim's passing and send our condolences to his family and friends," the Cubs said in a statement Tuesday.
No cause of death was given.
Frey managed in the big leagues for five seasons, compiling a 323-287 record.
In his first season as Royals manager, Frey led the team to the 1980 American League pennant before losing to the Philadelphia Phillies in the World Series . . .
Also managed the 1984 Cubs to the National League East title.
RIP.
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Brian Dennehy Dies: Versatile ‘First Blood’ & ‘The Blacklist’ Actor Was 81
Erik Pedersen | April 16, 2020 10:23am
Brian Dennehy, the Tony- and Golden Globe-winning actor whose career in movies, TV and the stage spanned nearly half a century, has died. He was 81. He died Wednesday of natural causes at his home in New Haven, CT, his agency ICM Partners said.
Instantly recognizable for the past four decades, Dennehy broke out with his role as a small-town sheriff who hassles John Rambo (Sylvester Stallone) in the franchise-launching 1982 actioner First Blood. The lawman pushes the wandering Vietnam vet too far and gets much more than he bargained for.
https://deadline.com/2020/04/brian-dennehy-dead-obituary-1202910168/
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Rest in peace, Mr. Dennehy. Versatile, talented actor.
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Just saw this too. RIP Mr. Dennehy.
What a great actor who could do so many different roles.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/16/entertainment/brian-dennehy-dead/index.html (https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/16/entertainment/brian-dennehy-dead/index.html)
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Rest in peace, Mr. Dennehy. Versatile, talented actor.
@Applewood
And one who was exposed as a fraud decades ago when he claimed to be a VN combat veteran.
AFAIK,he refused to comment on that one way or the other,but it did seem to hurt his career for a few years.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/fake-war-stories-exposed/ (https://www.cbsnews.com/news/fake-war-stories-exposed/)
Actor Brian Dennehy claimed for years that he served a five-year tour as a Marine in Vietnam, where he was wounded in action. In reality, Dennehy's only Vietnam "action" was on-screen in "A Rumor of War", in which he portrayed a Marine gunnery sergeant. While Dennehy did serve in the Marines, it was not in Vietnam; his only "combat duty" was playing football in Okinawa in 1962.
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@Applewood
And one who was exposed as a fraud decades ago when he claimed to be a VN combat veteran.
AFAIK,he refused to comment on that one way or the other,but it did seem to hurt his career for a few years.
@sneakypete
Didn't know about this, so I looked it up and found this on Wikipedia:
Dennehy enlisted in the United States Marine Corps in 1958 and served on Okinawa[22] until 1963. In numerous interviews, Dennehy claimed to be a Vietnam veteran who served a five-year tour there and recounted harrowing tales of combat,[23] but according to the book Stolen Valor, Dennehy never served in Vietnam and never saw active combat.[23] The author of Stolen Valor wrote to Dennehy regarding the discrepancy, but received no reply from the actor, although Dennehy later admitted in an interview that he had lied about his service and apologized for it.[23]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_Dennehy#Personal_life
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@Applewood
And one who was exposed as a fraud decades ago when he claimed to be a VN combat veteran.
AFAIK,he refused to comment on that one way or the other,but it did seem to hurt his career for a few years.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/fake-war-stories-exposed/ (https://www.cbsnews.com/news/fake-war-stories-exposed/)
Actually, on the IMDB website, https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001133/bio?ref_=nm_dyk_qt_sm#quotes (https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001133/bio?ref_=nm_dyk_qt_sm#quotes)I found this: "I lied about serving in Vietnam and I'm sorry. I did not mean to take away from the actions and the sacrifices of the ones who did really serve there...I did steal valor. That was very wrong of me. There is no real excuse for that. I was a peace-time Marine, and I got out in 1963 without ever serving in Vietnam... I started the story that I had been in 'Nam, and I got stuck with it. Then I didn't know how to set the record straight."
He fessed up, and admitted he was wrong.
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Actually, on the IMDB website, https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001133/bio?ref_=nm_dyk_qt_sm#quotes (https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001133/bio?ref_=nm_dyk_qt_sm#quotes)I found this:
He fessed up, and admitted he was wrong.
I accept that.
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I accept that.
Yeah, me, too. Especially where he said "There is no real excuse for that", which took it all on himself.
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Brian Dennehy Dies: Versatile ‘First Blood’ & ‘The Blacklist’ Actor Was 81
Erik Pedersen | April 16, 2020 10:23am
Brian Dennehy, the Tony- and Golden Globe-winning actor whose career in movies, TV and the stage spanned nearly half a century, has died. He was 81. He died Wednesday of natural causes at his home in New Haven, CT, his agency ICM Partners said.
Instantly recognizable for the past four decades, Dennehy broke out with his role as a small-town sheriff who hassles John Rambo (Sylvester Stallone) in the franchise-launching 1982 actioner First Blood. The lawman pushes the wandering Vietnam vet too far and gets much more than he bargained for.
https://deadline.com/2020/04/brian-dennehy-dead-obituary-1202910168/
Loved him in his roles. RIP.
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Loved him in his roles. RIP.
He stayed busy, that's for certain. His IMDB page is impressive.
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He stayed busy, that's for certain. His IMDB page is impressive.
I hadn't seen him in the past few years. Gorky Park was one of his best parts, IMO.
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Loved him in his roles. RIP.
Ditto. I even loved him in Cocoon happy77
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Howard "The Fink" Finkel
WWE's longtime ring announcer dies at 69
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9b/Howard_the_fink.jpg/220px-Howard_the_fink.jpg)
Howard Finkel joined what was then the World-Wide Wrestling Federation in 1975 under Vincent J. McMahon and became the promotion's in-ring announcer two years later. He remained with the promotion for 45 years, most of that time as ring announcer. Through his work with WWWF, later WWF and now WWE, Finkel earned a reputation as one of pro wrestling's greatest ring announcers.
In declining health since 2018, Finkel died of a stroke April 16.
Obituary from the Evening Standard (UK) (https://www.standard.co.uk/sport/howard-finkel-death-wwe-hall-of-fame-a4416306.html)
Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Howard_Finkel)
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I hadn't seen him in the past few years. Gorky Park was one of his best parts, IMO.
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001133/ (https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001133/)
Admittedly, I haven't seen anything he's done recently, either, but there is quite a list.
Ratatouille Django (voice) was the last one I saw. The quote from the post above in from the quotes section (click "see more").
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Loved him in The Blacklist. I didn't even realize for a bit that it was even him.
He was almost Golden-Age-of-Hollywood iconic.
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Actually, on the IMDB website, https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001133/bio?ref_=nm_dyk_qt_sm#quotes (https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001133/bio?ref_=nm_dyk_qt_sm#quotes)I found this:
He fessed up, and admitted he was wrong.
@Smokin Joe
You have to give him credit for that.
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He stayed busy, that's for certain. His IMDB page is impressive.
@Smokin Joe
Well,he was a good actor,and he had "one of those faces" that just made you want to like and trust him.
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Loved him in The Blacklist. I didn't even realize for a bit that it was even him.
He was almost Golden-Age-of-Hollywood iconic.
@Free Vulcan
Well,depending on how old we each are,we all have different opinions of when the Golden Age was.
To me,George Kennedy personified the Golden Age of Movies. Never really a major star,but seeing him listed as a co-star was a guarantee I was going to see that movie.
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@Smokin Joe
You have to give him credit for that.
Actually, I do give him credit for that. He did serve, just not in combat.
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Actually, I do give him credit for that. He did serve, just not in combat.
@Smokin Joe
Most of the people in the military have support unit jobs,and never see combat anyhow.
I read an estimate once that claimed it took 10 people working support in the rear to keep 1 soldier in combat supplied and ready to fight.
I see no reason to disbelieve this.
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@Smokin Joe
Most of the people in the military have support unit jobs,and never see combat anyhow.
I read an estimate once that claimed it took 10 people working support in the rear to keep 1 soldier in combat supplied and ready to fight.
I see no reason to disbelieve this.
Nor do I. One of the guys I knew who served in Vietnam got a funny look on his face when I thanked him, long before it was popular. He griped, "Hell I was just a telephone guy in Saigon..."
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'Green Acres' star Tom Lester dead at 81
Stephanie Nolasco | Fox News
Tom Lester, a devoted evangelist who starred as friendly farmhand Eb Dawson on the ‘60s series “Green Acres,†has died. He was 81.
He died of complications from Parkinson’s disease in the Nashville home of his fiancée and long-term caregiver Jackie Peters on Monday, Mississippi’s Laurel Leader-Call reported. His brother Michael Lester did not immediately respond to Fox News’ request for comment. ...
“Three weeks went by and Mrs. Henning called me on the phone and said, ‘Tom, we tried to reach you last night,’†he said. “’Mr. Henning wants you to get over to the studio as fast as you can and read for the part of Eb on ‘Green Acres.’â€
According to Hollywood legend, Lester beat out 400 other actors for the role because he knew how to milk a cow. ... More at FOX News (https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/green-acres-star-tom-lester-dead-at-81)
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'Green Acres' star Tom Lester dead at 81
Stephanie Nolasco | Fox News
Tom Lester, a devoted evangelist who starred as friendly farmhand Eb Dawson on the ‘60s series “Green Acres,†has died. He was 81.
He died of complications from Parkinson’s disease in the Nashville home of his fiancée
He was 81 and had a fiancee? Ya just gotta love an optimist. Nobody can ever say this guy was a quitter.
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He was 81 and had a fiancee? Ya just gotta love an optimist. Nobody can ever say this guy was a quitter.
You got dat right! She was a long-term care-giver, so good on her! Tom Lester must have really been a good guy.
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You got dat right! She was a long-term care-giver, so good on her! Tom Lester must have really been a good guy.
@Cyber Liberty
Not to mention a lucky man that was wise enough to recognize he was lucky.
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@Cyber Liberty
Not to mention a lucky man that was wise enough to recognize he was lucky.
Like me! I married up when I snagged @Slip18! She improved me, and my life. I was not a pleasant person pre-Slippy.
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Like me! I married up when I snagged @Slip18! She improved me, and my life. I was not a pleasant person pre-Slippy.
@Cyber Liberty
That makes you double lucky.
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@Cyber Liberty
That makes you double lucky.
Agreed. I wish all men were as lucky as I in that regard!
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Shirley Knight, Adventurous Actress and Two-Time Oscar Nominee, Dies at 83
Mike Barnes
2 hrs ago
Shirley Knight, the daring actress and darling of Tennessee Williams who received Oscar nominations for her work in her third and fourth films, The Dark at the Top of the Stairs and Sweet Bird of Youth, has died. She was 83.
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Knight died Wednesday of natural causes at the home of her daughter, actress Kaitlin Hopkins, in San Marcos, Texas.
Knight was known for taking bold chances during her career — as when she portrayed a promiscuous woman who confronts a young black male (Al Freeman Jr.) on the New York subway in the incendiary 1966 independent film Dutchman (1966) or when she played a pregnant Long Island housewife who gets involved with an ex-football player (James Caan) in The Rain People (1969), a film Francis Ford Coppola wrote just for her. ... More (https://www.msn.com/en-us/movies/news/shirley-knight-adventurous-actress-and-two-time-oscar-nominee-dies-at-83/ar-BB133cyV#image=1)
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Gene Deitch
Controversial animator dies at 95
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0b/Gene_Deitch.jpg/220px-Gene_Deitch.jpg)
In 1959, Deitch, who had done some work for the UPA and Terrytoons studios in the late 1950s, defected to Communist Czechoslovakia after a filmmaker promised to fund his polemic (yet Oscar-winning) film Munro (in which the military drafts a four-year-old). Over the next five years, Deitch's Prague studio contracted with the American studios that were cutting back to limited animation styles as television was gaining supremacy over cinema. He produced Popeye shorts, a revival of Krazy Kat, and most polarizingly, Tom and Jerry—this despite his despising Tom and Jerry's creators, William Hanna and Joseph Barbera. Deitch's absurdly violent Tom and Jerry shorts, lacking the animation style and subtlety of the Hanna-Barbera shorts, were considered among the worst of the series, and in 1963, MGM ended its relationship with Deitch and hired Chuck Jones to continue the series instead.
In the 1970s, Deitch was in contact with E.B. White trying to arrange a film adaptation of Charlotte's Web. The project fell through and his nemeses, Hanna and Barbera, ended up making the film instead; Deitch went to his grave insisting his film would have been better. He spent most of the rest of his career with Weston Woods Studios, which produced educational films.
Deitch died April 16 from intestinal problems.
Obituary (https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/magazines/panache/tom-and-jerry-animator-gene-deitch-passes-away-at-95-vicky-kaushal-thanks-him-for-making-our-childhood-amazing/articleshow/75271241.cms)
Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gene_Deitch)
IMDB (https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0215126/)
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Gene Deitch
Controversial animator dies at 95
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@jmyrlefuller
Good riddance to bad trash,even if it happened over a half-century longer than it should have.
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Minor league pitching legend Steve Dalkowski---the real-life inspiration for Bull Durham's Nuke LaLoosh---is dead at 80. (https://www.legacy.com/obituaries/hartfordcourant/obituary.aspx?n=stephen-l-dalkowski&pid=196056868)
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Minor league pitching legend Steve Dalkowski---the real-life inspiration for Bull Durham's Nuke LaLoosh---is dead at 80. (https://www.legacy.com/obituaries/hartfordcourant/obituary.aspx?n=stephen-l-dalkowski&pid=196056868)
Considering how wild he was, I wonder how close the batters stood to the plate after seeing how fast he was and how his pitches enveloped a fairly large area near home plate.
Why risk a possible fatal head injury just to challenge him and possibly get a piece of your bat on the ball?
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Considering how wild he was, I wonder how close the batters stood to the plate after seeing how fast he was and how his pitches enveloped a fairly large area near home plate.
Why risk a possible fatal head injury just to challenge him and possibly get a piece of your bat on the ball?
@goatprairie
Dalkowski was actually wild high and low, not inside and out. He did hit a few batters in his playing days, but the bigger concern on him was that his ball went wild low and wild high.
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@goatprairie
Dalkowski was actually wild high and low, not inside and out. He did hit a few batters in his playing days, but the bigger concern on him was that his ball went wild low and wild high.
Yeah, but would you want to take a chance getting close to the plate if you couldn't see the ball as it passed by you? Even Ted Williams, who batted against Dalkowski in an exhibition game, said he never wanted to face him again. If Ted Williams could barely see the ball, I wouldn't be stepping too close to the plate.
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Yeah, but would you want to take a chance getting close to the plate if you couldn't see the ball as it passed by you? Even Ted Williams, who batted against Dalkowski in an exhibition game, said he never wanted to face him again. If Ted Williams could barely see the ball, I wouldn't be stepping too close to the plate.
Most of the Dalkowski stories — throwing a ball through a wooden fence, throwing at hecklers in the stands, hitting hot dog vendors behind home plate, shattering an umpire’s facemask, Ted Williams asking to face him in the batting cage but changing his mind after watching Dalkowski throw — are unverifiable, passed and stretched like folk tales from one minor leaguer to another across the decades.â€---Pat Jordan, pitcher-turned-writer, Sports Illustrated, in 1970 (https://vault.si.com/vault/1970/10/12/the-wildest-fastball-ever).
A guy who's wild high and wild low is a lot safer to face than a guy who's wild inside and out. You could crowd the plate a bit on a wild-high/wild-low with a lot less risk than if you crowded against a guy who's wild-inside.
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Considering how wild he was, I wonder how close the batters stood to the plate after seeing how fast he was and how his pitches enveloped a fairly large area near home plate.
Why risk a possible fatal head injury just to challenge him and possibly get a piece of your bat on the ball?
Ryne Duren was fast but also wild.
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Ryne Duren was fast but also wild.
If he'd been Dalkowski's kind of wild he never would have pitched in the Show as he did for ten seasons. (Duren, too, had a battle with the bottle---when he was a Washington Senator, Gil Hodges talked him out of a suicide attempt in his final major league season. Duren cleaned up and became an alcohol counselor and teacher for most of the rest of his life.)
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Most of the Dalkowski stories — throwing a ball through a wooden fence, throwing at hecklers in the stands, hitting hot dog vendors behind home plate, shattering an umpire’s facemask, Ted Williams asking to face him in the batting cage but changing his mind after watching Dalkowski throw — are unverifiable, passed and stretched like folk tales from one minor leaguer to another across the decades.â€---Pat Jordan, pitcher-turned-writer, Sports Illustrated, in 1970 (https://vault.si.com/vault/1970/10/12/the-wildest-fastball-ever).
A guy who's wild high and wild low is a lot safer to face than a guy who's wild inside and out. You could crowd the plate a bit on a wild-high/wild-low with a lot less risk than if you crowded against a guy who's wild-inside.
I still wouldn't be crowding the plate. I think I'd have my heels on the furthest edge of the batter's box. And maybe leaning back a bit.
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Harold Reid, Statler Brothers bass singer, dies at 80
Harold Reid, who sang bass for the Grammy-winning country group the Statler Brothers, has died after a long battle with kidney failure. He was 80.
Reid died Friday in his hometown of Staunton, Virginia, his nephew Debo Reid said.
The Statler Brothers frequently sang backup for country icon Johnny Cash. Some of their biggest hits included 1965's “Flowers on the Wall†and 1970′s “Bed of Rose’s.â€
https://www.sfgate.com/entertainment/article/Harold-Reid-Statler-Brothers-bass-singer-dies-15225823.php (https://www.sfgate.com/entertainment/article/Harold-Reid-Statler-Brothers-bass-singer-dies-15225823.php)
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Harold Reid, Statler Brothers bass singer, dies at 80
That sucks. Glad to know he still lived in Staunton.
@verga - Augusta County ping
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Some of their biggest hits included 1965's “Flowers on the Wallâ€
That song was written about what it was like working at Western State Hospital - a mental institution.
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That song was written about what it was like working at Western State Hospital - a mental institution.
@Hoodat
That was the second-best song I ever heard about a mental institution.
The first-best . . .
The Move, "Cherry Blossom Clinic"
Error 404 (Not Found)!!1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSFC-q1SC2E#)
I also remember the Statlers as part of Johnny Cash's show in the later 1960s/early 1970s.
RIP Mr. Reid.
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That song was written about what it was like working at Western State Hospital - a mental institution.
@Hoodat
There are some things I don't even want to hear rumors about,never mind facts.
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I keep hearin' you're concerned about my happiness
But all that thought you're givin' me is conscience I guess
If I was walkin' in your shoes, I wouldn't worry none
While you 'n' your friends are worried about me I'm havin' lots of fun
Countin' flowers on the wall
That don't bother me at all
Playin' solitaire till dawn with a deck of fifty-one
Smokin' cigarettes and watchin' captain kangaroo
Now don't tell me I've nothin' to do
Last night I dressed in tails, pretended I was on the town
As long as I can dream it's hard to slow this swinger down
So please don't give a thought to me, I'm really doin' fine
You can always find me here, I'm havin' quite a time
Countin' flowers on the wall
That don't bother me at all
Playin' solitaire till dawn with a deck of fifty-one
Smokin' cigarettes and watchin' captain kangaroo
Now don't tell me I've nothin' to do
It's good to see you, I must go, I know I look a fright
Anyway my eyes are not accustomed to this light
And my shoes are not accustomed to this hard concrete
So I must go back to my room and make my day complete
Countin' flowers on the wall
That don't bother me at all
Playin' solitaire till dawn with a deck of fifty-one
Smokin' cigarettes and watchin' captain kangaroo
Now don't tell me I've nothin' to do
Don't tell me I've nothin' to do
-Lew DeWitt-
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That sucks. Glad to know he still lived in Staunton.
@verga - Augusta County ping
Yep. RIP, and I even know how to pronounce his hometown...
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I even know how to pronounce his hometown...
Big points for you, @Smokin Joe
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That sucks. Glad to know he still lived in Staunton.
@verga - Augusta County ping
People here are having a tough time over this. Near the wharf they have these Bronze stols as a tribute to the group. Lots of wreaths and candles.
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Big points for you, @Smokin Joe
I went to College in Harrisonburg.
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I went to College in Harrisonburg.
I grew up in Waynesboro.
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I grew up in Waynesboro.
I dated a gal from there briefly. There was an old manganese prospect near there that I have a couple of samples from to this day.
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I dated a gal from there briefly. There was an old manganese prospect near there that I have a couple of samples from to this day.
@Smokin Joe
You dated a woman from there,and what you remember are the rocks?????
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You dated a woman from there,and what you remember are the rocks?????
That pretty much sums up that relationship! (j/k, Joe).
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@Smokin Joe
You dated a woman from there,and what you remember are the rocks?????
Rocks endure. That relationship did not. I recall quite a bit about her, but will mention none of that here.
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Rocks endure. That relationship did not. I recall quite a bit about her, but will mention none of that here.
@Smokin Joe
Yeah,THAT I can relate to.
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@Smokin Joe
You dated a woman from there,and what you remember are the rocks?????
The Crimora Mine was at one time the biggest manganese producer in the US.
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The Crimora Mine was at one time the biggest manganese producer in the US.
@Hoodat
Oh,well,that makes it understandable. :thud:
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The Crimora Mine was at one time the biggest manganese producer in the US.
Considering the Catoctin greenstone is a Precambrian metamorphosed basalt, I wonder if that manganese deposit wasn't from some ancient black smokers (seafloor hydrothermal vents).
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Could we get back to the topic of this thread?
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Sam Lloyd, ‘Scrubs’ Actor, Dies at 56
Sam Lloyd, an actor best known for portraying lawyer Ted Buckland on “Scrubs,†has died, his agent confirmed to Variety. He was 56.
In January 2019, Lloyd was diagnosed with an inoperable brain tumor and cancer, which eventually spread to his lungs, jaw, liver and spine. He received the diagnosis just weeks after his wife, Vanessa, gave birth to their first child.
Over the course of his three-decade career in television and film, Lloyd also held roles on shows like “Desperate Housewives,†“Seinfeld,†“Modern Family,†“The West Wing,†“Cougar Town,†“Malcolm in the Middle†and “Shameless,†as well as films “Flubber†and “Galaxy Quest.â€
Lloyd was also a talented musician. He sang in a cappella group The Blanks – which made several appearances on “Scrubs†as The Worthless Peons – and played bass guitar in The Butties, a Beatles tribute band. Lloyd had also been slated to direct a country rock musical, “With Pam and Gil,†which was put on pause when he received his diagnosis.
https://variety.com/2020/tv/news/sam-lloyd-dead-dies-scrubs-ted-1234596010/
I never saw “Scrubs†until it was on Netflix. This guy was really good in his role and a dang good singer. 56 is still young, and with his brain cancer metastasizing like it did, it must have been awful. RIP.
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He was hilarious in "Scrubs." One of my favorite The Worthless Peons tunes (Sam is second from left):
Error 404 (Not Found)!!1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHnBeyOlvjU#)
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Sam Lloyd, ‘Scrubs’ Actor, Dies at 56
https://variety.com/2020/tv/news/sam-lloyd-dead-dies-scrubs-ted-1234596010/ (https://variety.com/2020/tv/news/sam-lloyd-dead-dies-scrubs-ted-1234596010/)
I never saw “Scrubs†until it was on Netflix. This guy was really good in his role and a dang good singer. 56 is still young, and with his brain cancer metastasizing like it did, it must have been awful. RIP.
@Gefn
This one is damn near personal to me. GREAT actor,and funny as hell as well as being a talented singer. I am glad he had the knowledge he was fathering a child before he died. It MIGHT have given him a little comfort.
I still get a belly laugh every time I remember he and Carla singing a Acapella cover of "Poisons" "Talk Dirty to Me" to a patient who is dying as his last request. The look he gives Carla and the look she returns once she realizes he is doing it is comedic gold. Then again,he and Carla were my two favorite characters.
Here it is.
Error 404 (Not Found)!!1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxxvVb2A4dM#)
Anybody that hasn't watched "Scrubs" and who likes to laugh owes it to themselves to start at Season 1 Episode 1,and work their way forward. Was some genius comedy going on there!
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Don Shula
NFL coaching legend dies at 90
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Shula, who played defensive back in the NFL for seven seasons in the 1950s, was a head coach for 33 consecutive seasons in the NFL, first with the Baltimore Colts, then with the Miami Dolphins. He won three NFL championships in his tenure, one with Baltimore (though he was on the losing end of Super Bowl III) and two with Miami, including the league's only perfect season in 1972. His 328 wins are the most by any coach in NFL history. He was inducted to the Hall of Fame in 1997.
Obituary from ESPN (https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/29132028/dolphins-hall-fame-coach-don-shula-dies-90)
Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don_Shula)
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Don Shula
NFL coaching legend dies at 90
Maybe his best legacy? 17-0. Never matched, and might not ever be matched
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Eerie. I was just thinking about Mr. Shula a couple of days ago -- something on the news about the greatest NFL coaches. Certainly, he qualified. I looked up some of his stats -- impressive indeed. And he was a standup guy in his personal life. Married to the same woman till she passed in the 1990s. Still married to his second wife since 1993. Devout Roman Catholic. Never heard of any scandals associated with him.
Rest in peace, Mr. Shula.
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Maybe his best legacy? 17-0. Never matched, and might not ever be matched
His real legacy---he's the coach you probably didn't want coaching your team in the biggest of the big games:
* Shula's record in championship games, whether pre-merger or the Super Bowl: 2-5. (His 1972-73 Dolphins, of course, but also his 1963-64 Baltimore Colts---against whom a comparatively unknown guy named Frank Ryan matched Hall of Famer Johnny Unitas in a first half shutout, then led the Browns to riddle the Colt defense and score the game's entire 27 points in the second half.)
* Shula's teams were out-scored in championship games, 142-81.
* His teams were out-scored in the second halves of championship games, 91-14.
* In the five championship game losses his teams were out-scored 77-7. (The 7, of course, came very late in Super Bowl III.)
* In five championship games including one his team won (his undefeated Dolphins against the Redskins), Shula's teams were shut out in the second half.
* The total score against Shula's teams in those second-half shutouts: 75-0.
* Maybe the major key: Shula teams were too predictable on defense and Shula either couldn't or wouldn't adjust during the games. (Two key Super Bowl III participants---Jets quarterback Joe Namath and Colts defensive end Bubba Smith---described that very well in their memoirs.)
A good man. A great regular-season coach. But you didn't want him coaching the big game for you.
RIP.
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His real legacy---he's the coach you probably didn't want coaching your team in the biggest of the big games:
* Shula's record in championship games, whether pre-merger or the Super Bowl: 2-5. (His 1972-73 Dolphins, of course, but also his 1963-64 Baltimore Colts---against whom a comparatively unknown guy named Frank Ryan matched Hall of Famer Johnny Unitas in a first half shutout, then led the Browns to riddle the Colt defense and score the game's entire 27 points in the second half.)
* Shula's teams were out-scored in championship games, 142-81.
* His teams were out-scored in the second halves of championship games, 91-14.
* In the five championship game losses his teams were out-scored 77-7. (The 7, of course, came very late in Super Bowl III.)
* In five championship games including one his team won (his undefeated Dolphins against the Redskins), Shula's teams were shut out in the second half.
* The total score against Shula's teams in those second-half shutouts: 75-0.
* Maybe the major key: Shula teams were too predictable on defense and Shula either couldn't or wouldn't adjust during the games. (Two key Super Bowl III participants---Jets quarterback Joe Namath and Colts defensive end Bubba Smith---described that very well in their memoirs.)
A good man. A great regular-season coach. But you didn't want him coaching the big game for you.
RIP.
I certainly didn't hate Shula or dislike him, I just thought he was too conservative early on.
He rarely used what I considered one of the top receivers in the league, Paul Warfield.
He had two thousand yard runners, Csonka and Morris, who almost achieved one thousand yards two years in a row, '72 and '73. Morris barely missed getting one thousand yards in '73.
But I still felt Warfield was underused.
Of course, the facts argue against me.
In his first season he turned the Dolphins around and won two consecutive SBs in five years with a strong running game.
So what do I know?
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In his first season he turned the Dolphins around and won two consecutive SBs in five years with a strong running game.
So what do I know?
It almost didn't matter whether he coached a big-play team like the 1963-64 Colts or a ball-control team like his 1972-74 Dolphins (though when you had a quarterback like Bob Greise and a wide receiver like Paul Warfield you had big-play capacity)---the Shula style of non-adjustment still played, and in fact the Dolphins were shut out in the second half against the Redskins while tied in the second half against the Vikings. (It was the only time in any championship game that a Shula team got so far as a tie for the half.) Either team had a better-than-fair chance of tying or even overcoming to win those games based on the Dolphins' second-half performances.
A decade later, Shula had another ball-control team of Dolphins . . . and got shut out by the Redskins (17-0) in the second half of their Super Bowl. (Final score: Redskins, 27-17.) Two years later, yanked inside-out into a very big-play team anchored by Dan Marino, the Dolphins got shut out in the second half (10-0) of that Super Bowl by the 49ers. (Final score: 38-16.)
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Flags in Ohio were at half mast yesterday for Don Shula.
RIP, sir!
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Don Shula, a veteran of the Ohio National Guard's 145th Infantry Regiment, 37th Infantry Division passed away today at the age of 90. The NFL Hall of Fame football coach served in the 145th Infantry in the early 1950s while still attending John Carroll University in Cleveland. In January 1952, Shula entered active service with the division and was sent to Camp Polk, La. for training. He was released in November of that year to return to the Cleveland Browns, who had drafted him in 1951. 37th Infantry Brigade Combat Team For more information visit the link below:
https://www.profootballhof.com/don-shula-1930-2020/ (https://www.profootballhof.com/don-shula-1930-2020/)
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Millie Small: My Boy Lollipop singer dies aged 72
BBC
Jamaican singer Millie Small has died at the age of 72 after suffering a stroke.
The star was most famous for her hit single My Boy Lollipop, which reached number two in both the US and the UK in 1964.
It remains one of the biggest-selling ska songs of all time, with more than seven million sales.
Island Records founder Chris Blackwell announced her death and remembered her as "a sweet person... really special".
It was Blackwell who brought Small to London in 1963 and produced her version of My Boy Lollipop, showcasing her childlike, high-pitched vocals.
"I would say she's the person who took ska international because it was her first hit record," he told the Jamaica Observer .
"It became a hit pretty much everywhere in the world. I went with her around the world because each of the territories wanted her to turn up and do TV shows and such, and it was just incredible how she handled it.
"She was such a sweet person, really a sweet person. Very funny, great sense of humour. She was really special," said Blackwell . . .
For decades to follow, Millie Small insisted the harmonica solo on "My Boy Lollipop" (the song was a remake of an obscure 1956 B-side cut by Barbie Gaye) was played by a kid named Rod Stewart, though Stewart denies it to this day. The solo was actually played by a musician who had a tie to Stewart: Pete Hogman, who replaced Stewart after the latter left a band called Jimmy Powell and the Five Dimensions.
Small's single on the Smash label (Mercury subsidiary) billed her as "The Blue Beat Girl" (she was 16 when she cut it) possibly thinking nobody would get the birth of ska at that time. This is the British-release picture sleeve:
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The bad news: Small revealed four years ago that she never saw a nickel of royalties for her biggest hit.
RIP.
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@EasyAce
I remember My Boy Lollipop. Seems it was all over the radio back in the 60's. Always wondered what happened to Miss Small -- as I do with most one-hit wonders. It's a dang shame she made no money from that single. She was destitute, at least for a time, and could have used the money.
Rest in peace, Miss Small.
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Millie Small: My Boy Lollipop singer dies aged 72
BBC
For decades to follow, Millie Small insisted the harmonica solo on "My Boy Lollipop" (the song was a remake of an obscure 1956 B-side cut by Barbie Gaye) was played by a kid named Rod Stewart, though Stewart denies it to this day. The solo was actually played by a musician who had a tie to Stewart: Pete Hogman, who replaced Stewart after the latter left a band called Jimmy Powell and the Five Dimensions.
Small's single on the Smash label (Mercury subsidiary) billed her as "The Blue Beat Girl" (she was 16 when she cut it) possibly thinking nobody would get the birth of ska at that time. This is the British-release picture sleeve:
(https://trendland.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/millie.jpg)
The bad news: Small revealed four years ago that she never saw a nickel of royalties for her biggest hit.
RIP.
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Artists don't usually get much in the way of Royalties, those go to the Writers, in the case of "Lollipop" that was Robert Spencer.
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@EasyAce
I remember My Boy Lollipop. Seems it was all over the radio back in the 60's. Always wondered what happened to Miss Small -- as I do with most one-hit wonders. It's a dang shame she made no money from that single. She was destitute, at least for a time, and could have used the money.
Rest in peace, Miss Small.
Cheated by the music industry. Common practice in those days. Few musicians/singers thought about royalties when some industry flack waved a contract in their faces. In her case, she was just a young teen when she was offered a contract. Easy to cheat.
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Artists don't usually get much in the way of Royalties, those go to the Writers, in the case of "Lollipop" that was Robert Spencer.
@Cyber Liberty
It was Robert Spencer---who wrote the song in 1956 while he was still a member of the Cadillacs. But . . . he had the misfortune of the song attracting the attention of the notorious Morris Levy, who agreed to be the song's publisher---then wiped Spencer's credit for writing the song and replaced it with that of a mobbed-up R&B artists' manager named Johnny Roberts while claiming that he, Levy, was really Robert Spencer.
Both Levy and the song, written originally as "My Girl Lollipop," caught the eye and ear of a mobster who was tight with Levy and had just discovered a Brooklyn girl named Barbie Gaye, Caetano (Corky) Vastola, an underboss in the notorious DeCavalcante crime family in New Jersey. Vastola, in turn, got the attention of DJ legend Alan Freed, then arranged for Gaye to cut the song on the Darl label. (Among the musicians on that record were two legendary New York studio rats, saxophonist Al Sears and drummer Panama Francis.) She cut it in the shuffle style then still new to R&B. Though it was hugely popular on Freed's radio show and around the northeast it didn't really catch elsewhere in the U.S.
Barbie Gaye was actually paid $200 flat for her record. It was more than Millie Small ever got for having the eventual (way) bigger hit, other than the big fees she collected for singing it on television appearances (including on the Beatles' early 1964 British special Around the Beatles) around the world. British producer Chris Blackwell's re-discovery of the song on a reel-to-reel mix tape he'd acquired in 1964 led him to offer it to Small, a Jamaican teenager living in England whom Blackwell discovered, having her cut the song---not on his fledgling Island label in England, but leasing it to the Fontana label, and in the new ska style shuffle. The only thing keeping it from hitting number one in the U.S. in May 1964 was the Beach Boys' "I Get Around."
Barbie Gaye has another music history footnote: one of the kids who went for her original cut of "My Boy Lollipop" (spelled "Lollypop" on her record) was a Long Island girl named Ellie Greenwich, who adopted the stage name Ellie Gaye when she tried an early career as a recording artist before becoming the songwriting legend she eventually became.
This was Barbie Gaye's original recording . . .
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. . . and this, of course, in all her make-Geddy-Lee-resemble-a-baritone glory, is Millie Small's international hit . . .
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Millie Small's "My Boy Lollipop" has since sold over seven million copies on its own and remains one of the world's most popular early ska hits.
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@EasyAce It seems people get in line to screw Artists. If I were a musician, and somebody approached me for a contract, my first stop would be an Agent.
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Cheated by the music industry. Common practice in those days. Few musicians/singers thought about royalties when some industry flack waved a contract in their faces. In her case, she was just a young teen when she was offered a contract. Easy to cheat.
I remember watching a documentary about many of the 50s and 60s artists who had one or more big hits, should have made big bucks, but ended up destitute. A lot of them were poor, black and illiterate. Some record producer would pluck these mostly young kids from the ghetto, tell them they'll get maybe a hundred dollars if they just sign on the dotted line. For a lot of these artists, $100 was a lot of money, so they signed. Only...many of them couldn't read or write, so they had no idea they were signing away any claims to royalties or any other further compensation.
@Cyber Liberty -- you mentioned getting an agent. Well, back in the day, I don't think there were many and if there were, these youngster would never be able to afford them. Plus, agents could be just as unscrupulous as the recording execs -- maybe more so. Still true today.
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@Cyber Liberty -- you mentioned getting an agent. Well, back in the day, I don't think there were many and if there were, these youngster would never be able to afford them. Plus, agents could be just as unscrupulous as the recording execs -- maybe more so. Still true today.
@Applewood
You may remember Allen Klein first made his name by taking on performers, forcing their record companies to open the books, and prying boatloads of unpaid royalties for them. (He first managed Sam Cooke until Cooke's death---he'd helped Cooke assert his independence---and then took on British Invasion artists produced by his acquaintance Mickie Most, beginning with the Animals.) He got the artists the monies . . . but the price they ended up paying proved unconscionable: the Rolling Stones ended up losing the rights to every last one of their 1963-70 recordings to get themselves free of him after they smelled rats despite his making them rich, and the story of Klein and the Beatles is only too well known, too.
For black artists, a guy like Curtis Mayfield or Ray Charles was rare enough. Mayfield from almost the beginning made sure he alone had control of his songwriting and the records he made with the Impressions and as a solo artist. (His clout from the Impressions's success enabled him to set up his own label, Curtom, when their original ABC-Paramount deal expired.)When Charles first left Atlantic for ABC-Paramount, he managed to get a deal giving him complete artistic control and independent song publishing plus a record label (Tangerine, to which Charles usually brought other artists while he recorded for the ABC-Paramount parent). There were those occasional black artists then who had the success to back up that they weren't just exploitable dummies.
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Brian Howe
Lead singer of Bad Company dies at 66
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Howe replaced Bad Company's original lead singer, Paul Rodgers, in 1986. In his eight years with the band, they scored their biggest hit, "Holy Water," in 1990. He had previously provided lead vocals for Ted Nugent's band (the former Amboy Dukes) for their 1983 album Penetrator.
Howe died of cardiac arrest May 6.
Obituary from the New York Post (https://nypost.com/2020/05/07/bad-company-singer-brian-howe-dead-of-cardiac-arrest-at-66/)
Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_Howe_(singer))
Bad Company · Holy Water - video dailymotion (http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xcqp1)
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Brian Howe
Lead singer of Bad Company dies at 66
Howe replaced Bad Company's original lead singer, Paul Rodgers, in 1986. In his eight years with the band, they scored their biggest hit, "Holy Water," in 1990. He had previously provided lead vocals for Ted Nugent's band (the former Amboy Dukes) for their 1983 album Penetrator.
Howe died of cardiac arrest May 6.
Never knew Paul Rodgers left. Shows how much I kept up with this band.
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Roy Horn
Half of Siegfried & Roy dies at 75
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Horn is at right.
Uwe "Roy" Horn was introduced to large cats through a family friend, who ran the zoo in Bremen. In the early 1960s, Horn, while on a cruise line, was pulled into an assistant job with Siegfried Fischbacher, a magician, and Roy introduced big cats into the act, initially with a cheetah (which got the duo fired). They returned to Bremen, toured Europe, then in 1967 came to Las Vegas, where their magic show emphasized white lions and tigers. Their high-budget act, bankrolled by promoter Feld Entertainment beginning in the early 1980s, raised the stakes of Las Vegas entertainment, inspiring more spectaculars on the strip. The show ran until Horn was mauled by one of his own tigers on stage in 2003, during which he sustained several injuries and a stroke.
Horn died May 8 from complications of coronavirus.
Obituary from the Las Vegas Review-Journal (https://www.reviewjournal.com/entertainment/entertainment-columns/kats/roy-horn-of-siegfried-roy-dies-at-75-2024476/)
Wikipedia (Siegfried & Roy) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roy_Horn)
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Saw Siegrfied & Roy a couple of times in Vegas Fabulous show, but always thought it was way too dangerous. Darn shame. Roy never really recovered from the mauling.
Rest in peace, Roy Horn.
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I never saw Siegfried and Roy other than on TV. But they got to touch tigers, which his cool for us cat ladies.
RIP, Mr. Horn.
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A 75-year-old who barely survived as severe a stroke as he probably wouldn't have been able to survive many subsequent illnesses. It just so happened that the Coronavirus came along. Lucky for the hospital's coffers, I guess.
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A 75-year-old who barely survived as severe a stroke as he probably wouldn't have been able to survive many subsequent illnesses. It just so happened that the Coronavirus came along. Lucky for the hospital's coffers, I guess.
One thing about the Coronavirus...It sure cut down on all those other things that were killing people... :whistle:
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Little Richard, Founding Father of Rock Who Broke Musical Barriers, Dead at 87
Pianist-singer behind “Tutti Frutti,†“Good Golly Miss Molly†and “Long Tall Sally†set the template that a generation of musicians would follow
David Browne
May 9, 2020
Little Richard, a founding father of rock and roll whose fervent shrieks, flamboyant garb, and joyful, gender-bending persona embodied the spirit and sound of that new art form, died Saturday. He was 87. The musician’s son, Danny Penniman, confirmed the pioneer’s death to Rolling Stone, but said the cause of death was unknown.
Starting with “Tutti Frutti†in 1956, Little Richard cut a series of unstoppable hits – “Long Tall Sally†and “Rip It Up†that same year, “Lucille†in 1957, and “Good Golly Miss Molly†in 1958 – driven by his simple, pumping piano, gospel-influenced vocal exclamations and sexually charged (often gibberish) lyrics. “I heard Little Richard and Jerry Lee Lewis, and that was it,†Elton John told Rolling Stone in 1973. “I didn’t ever want to be anything else. I’m more of a Little Richard stylist than a Jerry Lee Lewis, I think. Jerry Lee is a very intricate piano player and very skillful, but Little Richard is more of a pounder.†... Rolling Stone (https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/little-richard-dead-48505/)
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One thing about the Coronavirus...It sure cut down on all those other things that were killing people... :whistle:
@Smokin Joe
What are the odds of it ever getting a name change to "The Mercy Killer"?
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BREAKING
Little Richard: Rock 'n' Roll's founding father dies aged 87
Little Richard, one of the founding fathers of rock 'n' roll, has died at the age of 87, according to reports in the US.
His son, Danny Penniman, confirmed his death but said the cause was unknown, Rolling Stone reports.
The singer was famous for hits including Good Golly Miss Molly and Tutti Frutti.
https://news.sky.com/story/little-richard-rock-n-rolls-founding-father-dies-aged-87-11985747
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@Smokin Joe
What are the odds of it ever getting a name change to "The Mercy Killer"?
Believe me, there is nothing merciful about spending a few days fighting to breathe, drowning in your own lung fluids...
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BREAKING
Little Richard: Rock 'n' Roll's founding father dies aged 87
https://news.sky.com/story/little-richard-rock-n-rolls-founding-father-dies-aged-87-11985747
This one really hurts. Thank you for all the wonderful music. Heaven has a rocking new angel. RIP.
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BREAKING
Little Richard: Rock 'n' Roll's founding father dies aged 87
https://news.sky.com/story/little-richard-rock-n-rolls-founding-father-dies-aged-87-11985747
I didn't know he was still alive. RIP. He brought a lot of energy to a stage.
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Little Richard, Founding Father of Rock Who Broke Musical Barriers, Dead at 87
Pianist-singer behind “Tutti Frutti,†“Good Golly Miss Molly†and “Long Tall Sally†set the template that a generation of musicians would follow
David Browne
May 9, 2020
@mountaineer
You really can't overstate his importance when it comes to making R&R big. He flat lit up the stage every time he appeared.
The musician’s son, Danny Penniman,
THERE's a shock!
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The unforgettable segment of Little Richard stealing the show in Let the Good Times Roll . . .
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Paul McCartney's father was once quoted as saying that when he heard his then-teenage son doing his own Little Richard impersonation, "I couldn't believe anyone really sounded like that. It wasn't until years later, when I saw Little Richard on the bill with the Beatles, that I realised how good Paul's impersonation was." (The Beatles, of course, often used "Long Tall Sally" to close their concerts in 1963-65.)
RIP.
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THERE's a shock!
Little Richard was openly "ex-gay." The alphabet soup lobby doesn't like those types because it tears down their notion that it isn't a choice. Little Richard chose to reject it.
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I have a funny Little Richard story. I have to confess, I heard his music in HS, but didn’t know he sang it. I saw him on an episode of “Columbo†in the late 80s, and did a backward dive from there into his music. And loved it!
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Believe me, there is nothing merciful about spending a few days fighting to breathe, drowning in your own lung fluids...
@Smokin Joe
Compared to spending a few weeks or months doing the same or even worse,it ain't all that bad.
BTW,I have lymphoma,and know a little something about lungs and other organs being filled with fluid,myself. I actually lost 5 pounds in the last 3 days after my left leg got so swollen with fluid it burst,and a lot of it drained. Damn thing was so big I had to wear shorts because even the legs of my Levi's were too small for my left leg.
And this ain't the first time,and "Yes,I AM taking fluid pills." I take 3 different ones every day.
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@Smokin Joe
Compared to spending a few weeks or months doing the same or even worse,it ain't all that bad.
BTW,I have lymphoma,and know a little something about lungs and other organs being filled with fluid,myself. I actually lost 5 pounds in the last 3 days after my left leg got so swollen with fluid it burst,and a lot of it drained. Damn thing was so big I had to wear shorts because even the legs of my Levi's were too small for my left leg.
And this ain't the first time,and "Yes,I AM taking fluid pills." I take 3 different ones every day. I still can't bend over without losing my breath and getting dizzy due to the pressure it puts on my diaphragm that cuts off all my air.
And "yes,it COULD be worse." Probably will be before it's over.
NEVER say it CAN'T get worse. Mother Nature is a cranky old bitch,and might see that as a challenge.
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This one really hurts. Thank you for all the wonderful music. Heaven has a rocking new angel. RIP.
@Gefn
He and Jerry Lee were the most exciting things going back then. Especially "The Killer". He walked out on the stage,sat down at his piano,and just exploded. NOBODY could compare to The Killer in his prime.
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@Gefn
He and Jerry Lee were the most exciting things going back then. Especially "The Killer". He walked out on the stage,sat down at his piano,and just exploded. NOBODY could compare to The Killer in his prime.
I got into 50s music in my late twenties, growing up my parents mostly listened to Broadway records, Sinatra, and other crooners, and classical. I heard late 60s and 70s from the radio and whatnot. But I really knew for the most part, pop stuff from this era, not real proper rock. I’m grateful To who’s benefit was a musician and let me listen to so many great bands from the 70s that I only heard of their names but never the music.
@sneakypete
@sneakypete
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I got into 50s music in my late twenties, growing up my parents mostly listened to Broadway records, Sinatra, and other crooners, and classical. I heard late 60s and 70s from the radio and whatnot. But I really knew for the most part, pop stuff from this era, not real proper rock. I’m grateful To who’s benefit was a musician and let me listen to so many great bands from the 70s that I only heard of their names but never the music.
@sneakypete
@sneakypete
@Gefn
A kid out of Detroit made bloody sure Little Richard was part of his first two R&B-medley hit singles . . .
Mitch Ryder & the Detroit Wheels, "Jenny Take a Ride"
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Mitch Ryder & the Detroit Wheels, "Devil with a Blue Dress"
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I got into 50s music in my late twenties, growing up my parents mostly listened to Broadway records, Sinatra, and other crooners, and classical. I heard late 60s and 70s from the radio and whatnot. But I really knew for the most part, pop stuff from this era, not real proper rock. I’m grateful To who’s benefit was a musician and let me listen to so many great bands from the 70s that I only heard of their names but never the music.
@sneakypete
@sneakypete
@Gefn
Do yourself a favor and go to You Boob and look for videos of Jerry Lee Lewis and James Brown performing live.
You just ain't going to believe what you hear AND see.
There is one video there of Jerry Lee performing live at a state fair somewhere when he is well into his 70's,and admission is free because nobody knows who he is. You can see the folding chairs lined up and the sign saying "Jerry Lee Lewis,performing LIVE!" as whoever filmed it started filming early. Soon,Jerry Lee walks out on the stage to play for people who obviously have no freaking idea who he is,sits down at his piano,turns to the audience,and says into the microphone,"Hello,I am Jerry Lee Lewis,try to hold on to whatever it is you got." and breaks into "Great Balls of Fire"
Within seconds people were kicking the folding chairs out of the way to make room to dance. The looks on some of their faces is priceless as they discover what it is they came to see and hear. Like children on Christmas morning.
They didn't call Jerry Lee "The Killer" for nothing. NOBODY wanted to follow him on stage.
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@Gefn
Do yourself a favor and go to You Boob and look for videos of Jerry Lee Lewis and James Brown performing live.
You just ain't going to believe what you hear AND see.
There is one video there of Jerry Lee performing live at a state fair somewhere when he is well into his 70's,and admission is free because nobody knows who he is. You can see the folding chairs lined up and the sign saying "Jerry Lee Lewis,performing LIVE!" as whoever filmed it started filming early. Soon,Jerry Lee walks out on the stage to play for people who obviously have no freaking idea who he is,sits down at his piano,turns to the audience,and says into the microphone,"Hello,I am Jerry Lee Lewis,try to hold on to whatever it is you got." and breaks into "Great Balls of Fire"
Within seconds people were kicking the folding chairs out of the way to make room to dance. The looks on some of their faces is priceless as they discover what it is they came to see and hear. Like children on Christmas morning.
They didn't call Jerry Lee "The Killer" for nothing. NOBODY wanted to follow him on stage.
I saw Jerry Lee at Mickey Gilley's back in 1980, not long after they filmed that movie down there. I didn't really know who he was when I got there, but I sure did when I left. Another high energy performer.
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Another of my favorite oldtime rock n rollers gone. Little Richard was one of the greats -- truly a pioneer.
Rest in peace, Rev. Penniman.
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I love early R& R, and all the people, groups, styles that got it going. and still keep it going
country, hilbilly, blues, jazz, folk, dance, etc.
Adios, Little Richard.
Members of Little Richard's band included James Brown, Jimi Hendrix, Billy Preston.
If you love Rock, and the history, the Wiki ispacked with Richard's huge impact on the music.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_Richard
How about a trubute album to Johnny Cash?
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@Gefn
He and Jerry Lee were the most exciting things going back then. Especially "The Killer". He walked out on the stage,sat down at his piano,and just exploded. NOBODY could compare to The Killer in his prime.
@sneakypete
You and I talked about Jerry Lee Lewis before and I told you I saw him play several years ago. He's in his 80s now -- back then he would have been in his late 70s. Trust me, the Killer could still wow an audience.
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Love the "honky tonk" piano....
www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQ6akiGRcL8 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQ6akiGRcL8#)
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How about a trubute album to Johnny Cash?
I think the last thing Johnny Cash did was a cover of Hurt -Nine Inch Nails
It is not very often that a cover is better than the original, but wow, did Cash nail that. And totally changed the meaning while he was at it.
Very apropos for the obits btw...
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My remark was that supposeddly LR did some cover of Cash songs.
There was some tie between country and race music in the early days.
Ray Charles did a full country album, or more.
The Supremes did a country album.
highly regarded country, rythm & blues album
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My remark was that supposeddly LR did some cover of Cash songs.
There was some tie between country and race music in the early days.
Ray Charles did a full country album, or more.
The Supremes did a country album.
I had absolutely no idea that the Supremes or Ray Charles did a country album.
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I had absolutely no idea that the Supremes or Ray Charles did a country album.
@libertybele
He did two, the first in 1962 on the ABC-Paramount label, and it yielded one of his biggest hits . . .
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Ray Charles, "I Can't Stop Loving You"
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How about a trubute album to Johnny Cash?
There are eight so far . . . (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Johnny_Cash_tribute_albums)
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He did two, the first in 1962 on the ABC-Paramount label, and it yielded one of his biggest hits . . .
(https://img.discogs.com/O6NUefie0a31FcsLys0yOVG18Po=/fit-in/300x300/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(40)/discogs-images/R-5312752-1390362915-6330.jpeg.jpg)
I think dad still has that album. Listened to it more times I could count as a young child.
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Little Richard was like one of the primorial gods that sprang forth out of the void, along with Elvis, Bill Haley, Jerry Lee Lewis, Chuck Berry, Fats Domino, and Carl Perkins, etc, and the foundation upon which everything was built on.
RIP to a true talent pioneer.
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I think the last thing Johnny Cash did was a cover of Hurt -Nine Inch Nails
It is not very often that a cover is better than the original, but wow, did Cash nail that. And totally changed the meaning while he was at it.
@roamer_1
I would have never believed it myself if I hadn't heard it. TOTALLY out of his genre,and at his age with his level of sickness,seemingly impossible to do and hit it out of the park.
Who would have ever thought Johnny Cash would outlive June Carter?
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@roamer_1
I would have never believed it myself if I hadn't heard it. TOTALLY out of his genre,and at his age with his level of sickness,seemingly impossible to do and hit it out of the park.
Who would have ever thought Johnny Cash would outlive June Carter?
@sneakypete IKnowRight? (on both counts) :beer:
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My remark was that supposeddly LR did some cover of Cash songs.
There was some tie between country and race music in the early days.
@truth_seeker
Yup,and it was called "Fundie Protestant Churches". The root of ALL "American music".
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Little Richard was like one of the primorial gods that sprang forth out of the void, along with Elvis, Bill Haley, Jerry Lee Lewis, Chuck Berry, Fats Domino, and Carl Perkins, etc, and the foundation upon which everything was built on.
RIP to a true talent pioneer.
Don't forget Buddy Holly, Eddie Cochran, Link Wray, etal.
One huge question I have is given the talent of those rnr titans, how did rock degenerate so bad in the late fifties until the Beatles arrived on the scene?
On Sirius radio some months ago they put on the top hits of 1961. The wife and I gagged at all the maudlin, sappy tunes that were hits at the time. Bob Dylan was right....rock at that time was, in his words, "a piece of cream."
Frankie Avalon. Paul Anka? :3:
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Don't forget Buddy Holly, Eddie Cochran, Link Wray, etal.
One huge question I have is given the talent of those rnr titans, how did rock degenerate so bad in the late fifties until the Beatles arrived on the scene?
On Sirius radio some months ago they put on the top hits of 1961. The wife and I gagged at all the maudlin, sappy tunes that were hits at the time. Bob Dylan was right....rock at that time was, in his words, "a piece of cream."
Frankie Avalon. Paul Anka? :3:
Two factors: the Baby Boomers turned 13 in 1959, meaning you had a bunch of swooning teen girls coming of age, and organized crime was filtering into the music industry in the major cities. Look at how many of the major names of that era were East Coast Italians. It was no coincidence... it was becoming, in the words of the late Frank Zappa, "strictly commercial."
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Two factors: the Baby Boomers turned 13 in 1959, meaning you had a bunch of swooning teen girls coming of age, and organized crime was filtering into the music industry in the major cities. Look at how many of the major names of that era were East Coast Italians. It was no coincidence... it was becoming, in the words of the late Frank Zappa, "strictly commercial."
After the first wave, of say Elvis, JLL, Holly, and a few others, the period 1959-1964 was pretty much a lull, and a bowl of Yellow Snow. (building on your Zappa meme)
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Swooning teen girls are a very good thing.
Most males are driven by the biological mating instinct to please, interface, and be with them.
A good song was and remains a method, even if it comes from the dash of an automobile, or by the Singing cowboy
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Italians were good, too. This vid proves they could keep it up for decades
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Two factors: the Baby Boomers turned 13 in 1959, meaning you had a bunch of swooning teen girls coming of age, and organized crime was filtering into the music industry in the major cities. Look at how many of the major names of that era were East Coast Italians. It was no coincidence... it was becoming, in the words of the late Frank Zappa, "strictly commercial."
hmmm.....interesting theory.
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Singer Betty Wright Dead at 66
5/10/2020 8:26 AM PT
Betty Wright, a supremely talented R&B singer who popularized the phrase, "No pain, no gain," has died.
Wright's cause of death was not announced when her niece confirmed the passing. Something was clearly wrong though because 2 days ago, Chaka Khan made a plea ... "Calling all my #PrayWarriors. My beloved sister, Betty Wright @MsBettyWright, is now in need of all your prayers."
Wright, whom some in the music industry called one of the most underrated singers of her time, was recently honored on TV One's, "Unsung."
Betty recorded so many songs, including her 1971 hit, "Clean Up Woman. She was only 18 when the song was released, and it turned out to be her biggest song ever. Other hits included "Let Me Be Your Lovermaker," "Shoorah Shoorah," "Tonight is the Night," and "Where is the Love." ... TMZ (https://www.tmz.com/2020/05/10/singer-betty-wright-dies-dead-66/)
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That pink album cover portrays her as a beauty.
Too young. (her own son died too young from thug violence)
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hmmm.....interesting theory.
Meanwhile, two titans of music were born in 1959 and spent the next four years maturing:
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/fc/b8/6a/fcb86a0a3234e52f72e3f8d45c3f44fa.jpg)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/proxy/9zmszNCGWvAA1t-Ao_9P7HMmLKw4Q9zmEBdnkgbNxlRpJBqJL-hydLkYxqb86qjIO7nXpH3UVxFBKb0drDONbGFXe2U1a3CoIj49MT_uSqBVsuc)
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Don't forget Buddy Holly, Eddie Cochran, Link Wray, etal.
One huge question I have is given the talent of those rnr titans, how did rock degenerate so bad in the late fifties until the Beatles arrived on the scene?
@goatprairie
IMNSHO,this happened because it became "big bidnez",and was taken out of the hands of the fans that produced and promoted it,and handed over to the corporations,whose business model is "don't make waves and sell "comfortable product".
Many parents in the 50's and early 60's violently opposed this "demonic music that promotes sex!". At least one song by Link Wray was banned from air play due to being "too suggestive". I THINK it was Rumble,even though there are only guitar riffs (MASTER guitar riffs,btw),but it could have been "Good Time Joe","Backwoods Preacher Man",or any of the others.
My parents,for some odd reason I will never understand,LOVED it. They never even complained about "that noise" when I was cranking up Lynard Skynard and Pink Floyd in the 70's. Sometimes they would even ask me the name of a song they really liked.AFAIK,none of my friends at that time had this experience.
BTW,for those who don't know,Link Wray was still touring and trying to get record contracts,right up to the time he died a few years ago.
When it comes to 50's guitar,Link Wray WAS "the man"!
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Late 1950s hetero American males singing for the pleasures of "swooning teenage girls"-non denomic style
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Late 1950s hetero American males singing for the pleasures of "swooning teenage girls"-non denomic style
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@truth_seeker
Uhhh,what does this have to do with death notices? Does listening to it make you suicidal?
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Don't forget Buddy Holly, Eddie Cochran, Link Wray, etal.
One huge question I have is given the talent of those rnr titans, how did rock degenerate so bad in the late fifties until the Beatles arrived on the scene?
On Sirius radio some months ago they put on the top hits of 1961. The wife and I gagged at all the maudlin, sappy tunes that were hits at the time. Bob Dylan was right....rock at that time was, in his words, "a piece of cream."
Frankie Avalon. Paul Anka? :3:
Buddy Holly, Link Ray, Eddie Cochran and others no doubt were among the early greats, but they came along a few years later.
I agree that rock went blah for the early 60's. But then came along the Beatles, Rolling Stones, and a zillion others right after.
Then it kinda died again in the early-to-mid-70's until roaring back to life in the late 70's/80's. Same pattern can be said for each decade until finally mostly fizzling out for good around 2010.
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After the first wave, of say Elvis, JLL, Holly, and a few others, the period 1959-1964 was pretty much a lull, and a bowl of Yellow Snow. (building on your Zappa meme)
So you're saying it took the music industry some time to get the Dinah Moe Humm?
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So you're saying it took the music industry some time to get the Dinah Moe Humm?
Actually it took a lead filled snowshoe.
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Actually it took a lead filled snowshoe.
What kind of shoe was it when they came up with rap
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Jerry Stiller, comedian and 'Seinfeld' actor, dies at 92
Comedy veteran Jerry Stiller, who launched his career opposite wife Anne Meara in the 1950s and reemerged four decades later as the hysterically high-strung Frank Costanza on the smash television show “Seinfeld,†died at 92, his son Ben Stiller announced Monday.
He died of natural causes, his son — a comedy star himself — said in a tweet.
https://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/wireStory/jerry-stiller-comedian-seinfeld-actor-dies-92-70611265
8888crybaby
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Jerry Stiller, comedian and 'Seinfeld' actor, dies at 92
https://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/wireStory/jerry-stiller-comedian-seinfeld-actor-dies-92-70611265 (https://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/wireStory/jerry-stiller-comedian-seinfeld-actor-dies-92-70611265)
8888crybaby
Rush was known for having great intro bits before their concerts started. My favorite , was the one by Jerry Stiller during their R-30 Tour.
His parts are at about 1:50- 3:10, and 6:15- 6:25 on the clip.
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It really did come in three's this time. RIP, Mr. Stiller. You’re with your beloved wife now.
And thank you and your wife for all the laughter.
888cryingkitty
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Then it kinda died again in the early-to-mid-70's until roaring back to life in the late 70's/80's. Same pattern can be said for each decade until finally mostly fizzling out for good around 2010.
I will gently remind yoiu that the late 70 had Disco, and the early 80's began the birth of rap/hip hop
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I will gently remind yoiu that the late 70 had Disco, and the early 80's began the birth of rap/hip hop
And yet, mankind survived.
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Rush was known for having great intro bits before their concerts started. My favorite , was the one by Jerry Stiller during their R-30 Tour.
His parts are at about 1:50- 3:10, and 6:15- 6:25 on the clip.
Silly me, I was expecting to see Rush Limbaugh.
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And yet, mankind survived.
Not for much longer at this rate.
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Not for much longer at this rate.
Where's your sense of adventure, bro?
:laugh:
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Rush was known for having great intro bits before their concerts started. My favorite , was the one by Jerry Stiller during their R-30 Tour.
His parts are at about 1:50- 3:10, and 6:15- 6:25 on the clip.
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Error 404 (Not Found)!!1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9X5F5LuVH0#)
Stiller & Meara, "The 25,000 Insurance Policy"
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Stiller & Meara, reunited in heaven.
RIP
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What was great about Seinfeld is that even the secondary characters were often hilarious.
Jerry Stiller, as George Costanza's father, was one of the funniest characters on the show even with limited air time. Ditto for Newman played by Wayne Knight.
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What was great about Seinfeld is that even the secondary characters were often hilarious.
Jerry Stiller, as George Costanza's father, was one of the funniest characters on the show even with limited air time. Ditto for Newman played by Wayne Knight.
Seinfeld by far had a vencacular that impacted the English Language probably more than any other TV show.
Yada Yada, Regift, Bromanze, Shrinkage, Spongeworthy, Close Talker, Festivus, Man Hands, Soup Nazi, Double Dip, In the Vault, and probably some I missed. Your right, the supporting cast brought a ton to the table.
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Never watched "Seinfeld", not even once.
Why watch a show "about nothing" ???
(I have little tolerance for comedies or "comedians" of any kind, anyway...)
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Never watched "Seinfeld", not even once.
Why watch a show "about nothing" ???
(I have little tolerance for comedies or "comedians" of any kind, anyway...)
I was no fan of Seinfeld either. But I grew up watching Jerry Stiller with his wife, Anne Meara, when they were frequent guests on the Ed Sullivan Show. They were funny, as were most comedians back then. Today's so-called comedians -- not so much.
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(I have little tolerance for comedies or "comedians" of any kind, anyway...)
You'd better get down on your knees and thank God for laughter, because without it you'd get awful sick from the sound of crying.---Danny Thomas.
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My favorite Jerry Stiller scene of all time. Let's rumble!
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Never watched "Seinfeld", not even once.
Why watch a show "about nothing" ???
(I have little tolerance for comedies or "comedians" of any kind, anyway...)
Because it's the all-time greatest sitcom, that's why. You're cheating yourself out of laughs...which there aren't a lot of lately.
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(I have little tolerance for comedies or "comedians" of any kind, anyway...)
To live without humor is to live without life.
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Never watched "Seinfeld", not even once.
Why watch a show "about nothing" ???
(I have little tolerance for comedies or "comedians" of any kind, anyway...)
What do you laugh at, if anything? Not counting corrupt pols, that is.
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To live without humor is to live without life.
:yowsa:
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Never watched "Seinfeld", not even once.
Why watch a show "about nothing" ???
(I have little tolerance for comedies or "comedians" of any kind, anyway...)
I am not a fan of most comedies, simply because (the more modern stuff, anyway) there is little I find funny. But watch Bob Hope in his prime, or George Burns and Gracie Allen, even up to Archie Bunker or Sanford and Son, and there are chuckles there, and on occasion, a belly laugh. Some of the classic comedians will elicit a laugh, because they were having fun with human nature, (Carlin did that, too, best when he wasn't using vocal prompts as a signal to laugh).
But I have sat through more modern fare without so much as a grin, and that's depressing.
It doesn't mean I don't have a sense of humour, much I believe as you do, just that I find other things far more amusing than the politically correct agenda driven joke du jour with a laugh track to hold up the 'applause sign".
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22chief
@I am not a fan of most comedies, simply because (the more modern stuff, anyway) there is little I find funny. But watch Bob Hope in his prime, or George Burns and Gracie Allen, even up to Archie Bunker or Sanford and Son, and there are chuckles there, and on occasion, a belly laugh. Some of the classic comedians will elicit a laugh, because they were having fun with human nature, (Carlin did that, too, best when he wasn't using vocal prompts as a signal to laugh).
But I have sat through more modern fare without so much as a grin, and that's depressing.
It doesn't mean I don't have a sense of humour, much I believe as you do, just that I find other things far more amusing than the politically correct agenda driven joke du jour with a laugh track to hold up the 'applause sign".
@Smokin Joe
I pull in,and record,stuff like the Carol Burnette Show,You Bet Your Life (Groucho),Tales from the Crypt,and Alfred Hitchcock Presents on my 43 buck RCA HD tv antenna.
Some may be more sardonic than slapstick,but the humor is there.
ANYBODY that doesn't think Conway and Korman from the Carole Burnett Show isn't funny needs a funny bone implant. That was some PRIME stuff!
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Groucho Marx, my hero!
Carlin was great, could be the best.
Robin Williams stand up was pretty amazing.
Even though we have all watched it a million times, I dare any of you to watch Abbott and Costello's "Who's on first" and not laugh.
Harpo, Chico and Groucho in the Mirror scene from the movie "Duck Soup" will get you every time.
(Lucille Ball re-did the Mirror Scene on TV with Harpo later on).
Tim Conway and Carol Burnett were flat out hilarious.
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I am not a fan of most comedies, simply because (the more modern stuff, anyway) there is little I find funny. But watch Bob Hope in his prime, or George Burns and Gracie Allen, even up to Archie Bunker or Sanford and Son, and there are chuckles there, and on occasion, a belly laugh . . .
Bob Hope and Burns & Allen were far funnier in their radio years:
The Bob Hope Show (https://otrrlibrary.org/OTRRLib/Library%20Files/B%20Series/Bob%20Hope%20-%20The%20Bob%20Hope%20Show/)
The Burns & Allen Show (https://otrrlibrary.org/OTRRLib/Library%20Files/B%20Series/Burns%20And%20Allen%20Show,%20The/)
(Look especially for the 1940 "Gracie for President" running gag, when she ran a comical campaign as the nominee of the Surprise Party.)
. . . and even they were bested in the radio years by . . .
The Jack Benny Program (https://otrrlibrary.org/OTRRLib/Library%20Files/J%20Series/Jack%20Benny/)
Texaco Star Theater with Fred Allen (https://otrrlibrary.org/OTRRLib/Library%20Files/F%20Series/Fred%20Allen%20-%20Texaco%20Star%20Theater/)
The Fred Allen Show (http://=https://otrrlibrary.org/OTRRLib/Library%20Files/F%20Series/Fred%20Allen%20-%20Fred%20Allen%20Show%20(45-49))
Easy Aces (https://otrrlibrary.org/OTRRLib/Library%20Files/E%20Series/Easy%20Aces/)
The Henry Morgan Show (https://otrrlibrary.org/OTRRLib/Library%20Files/H%20Series/Henry%20Morgan%20Show/)
You Bet Your Life (https://otrrlibrary.org/OTRRLib/Library%20Files/X-Y-Z%20Series/You%20Bet%20Your%20Life/)
Fibber McGee & Molly (https://otrrlibrary.org/OTRRLib/Library%20Files/F%20Series/Fibber%20McGee/)
The Big Show (https://archive.org/compress/OTRR_The_Big_Show_Singles/formats=VBR%20MP3&file=/OTRR_The_Big_Show_Singles.zip)
Vic & Sade (https://otrrlibrary.org/OTRRLib/Library%20Files/U-V%20Series/Vic%20And%20Sade/)
The Goldbergs (https://otrrlibrary.org/OTRRLib/Library%20Files/G%20Series/Goldbergs,%20The/)
At those links are complete surviving installments of those shows' runs. Free downloading.
(The Big Show was a 1950-52 attempt by NBC to revive classic radio variety shows---with a truckload of comedy including Fred Allen (a very frequent guest and co-writer), Bob Burns, Jack Carson, Jimmy Durante, Phil Harris, Bob Hope, George Jessel, Bert Lahr, Groucho Marx, Danny Thomas, and others. The whole shebang was hosted by Tallulah Bankhead and the writing staff was headed by Easy Aces mastermind Goodman Ace.)
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@Smokin Joe
I pull in,and record,stuff like the Carol Burnette Show,You Bet Your Life (Groucho),Tales from the Crypt,and Alfred Hitchcock Presents on my 43 buck RCA HD tv antenna.
Some may be more sardonic than slapstick,but the humor is there.
ANYBODY that doesn't think Conway and Korman from the Carole Burnett Show isn't funny needs a funny bone implant. That was some PRIME stuff!
The Burnett show was great stuff. Conway as the dentist is a classic. Those are all great shows, but there is little new in the same vein that isn't laced with PC and gratuitous faggotry.
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The Burnett show was great stuff. Conway as the dentist is a classic. Those are all great shows, but there is little new in the same vein that isn't laced with PC and gratuitous faggotry.
Conway and Korman were hysterical together. Korman was just funny because, especially with Conway, he could not keep a straight face in any skit. My favorite skits had Conway as the "world's oldest" something -- it changed weekly. One skit had Conway as the world's oldest fireman. Poor Harvey Korman could barely get out his lines; he was laughing so much.
The show also spoofed movies and tv shows. A classic was Burnett's takeoff on Gone With the Wind (titled "Went With the Wind" for the Carol Burnett Show). In the movie there is a scene where Scarlett has Mammy make her a dress from drapes In the Burnett spoof, Carol as Scarlett descends a staircase wearing a dress made out of drapery material -- and a drapery rod across her back. The story goes that the taping of that scene had to be halted for a good ten or fifteen minutes. The studio audience was laughing so hard, the performers could not continue with the skit.
By the way, that drapery dress from the Carol Burnett Show is now in the Smithsonian.
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The Burnett show was great stuff. Conway as the dentist is a classic. Those are all great shows, but there is little new in the same vein that isn't laced with PC and gratuitous faggotry.
The modern p.c. is the worst thing. Plus, the incessant foul language from many "comedians."
A great many of them are liberals who while quite willing to skewer Christian public (or private) figures, but sheath their swords about Islam.
In short, they are cowardly hypocrites.
I've seen a number of skits on YouTube by so-called major comedians like Louis C.K. and some others. Not even a slight titter out of me.
I did see a Norm MacDonald sketch a while back that left me helpless with laughter.
So there are a few comedians today who are actually funny. Just not many of them.
Jeff Dunham is real good.
The wife and I watch Johnny Carson shows from forty years ago and still laugh.
Rodney Dangerfield was on one time, and Carson was so convulsed he could barely speak.
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Groucho Marx, my hero!
Carlin was great, could be the best.
Robin Williams stand up was pretty amazing.
Even though we have all watched it a million times, I dare any of you to watch Abbott and Costello's "Who's on first" and not laugh.
Harpo, Chico and Groucho in the Mirror scene from the movie "Duck Soup" will get you every time.
(Lucille Ball re-did the Mirror Scene on TV with Harpo later on).
Tim Conway and Carol Burnett were flat out hilarious.
@GrouchoTex
Don't forget Harvey Korman. He and Tim Conway provided the hysterical laughter. Carol Burnette was a great comedic actress on her own,but when Conway and Korman were on camera doing their thing,she was more of a "straight man" and a witness than anything else.
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The modern p.c. is the worst thing. Plus, the incessant foul language from many "comedians."
A great many of them are liberals who while quite willing to skewer Christian public (or private) figures, but sheath their swords about Islam.
In short, they are cowardly hypocrites.
I've seen a number of skits on YouTube by so-called major comedians like Louis C.K. and some others. Not even a slight titter out of me.
I did see a Norm MacDonald sketch a while back that left me helpless with laughter.
So there are a few comedians today who are actually funny. Just not many of them.
Jeff Dunham is real good.
The wife and I watch Johnny Carson shows from forty years ago and still laugh.
Rodney Dangerfield was on one time, and Carson was so convulsed he could barely speak.
@goatprairie
Norm is so anti-PC he can't even get a gig working for free. I sorta vaguely remember his blowing his career by making fun of the Clintons on SNL and various other teebee shows,and that is what did him in. He actually had a hit comedy series on teebee at the time,and it was cancelled in mid-season and I think there were still taped episodes that were never seen.
Ron White is another one. Maybe the biggest compliment I got in my life was a good friend of mine called me on the phone one night,practically hysterical with laughter as he told me he had just seen a comedian on tv "that's doing your stuff! I had to look hard to make sure it wasn't you!"
I have to admit I had never heard of White at the time,and had to look him up on youtube to check for myself. Sure enough,he was saying a lot of the same things I had been saying,but better.
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To live without humor is to live without life.
I fart, therefore I am. :beer:
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Barry Farber
Famed conservative talk radio pioneer and language enthusiast dies at 90
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c6/Barry_Farber.jpg)
Farber enjoyed a radio career lasting six decades, much of that based in New York City. At various times his work was nationally syndicated, first through Kaiser Broadcasting for a brief period in the late 1970s, by ABC in the late 1980s, and then through both Cable Radio Network and Talk Radio Network (the latter also using Farber as a frequent fill-in for Laura Ingraham and their other talk hosts) beginning in the 1990s. He was still hosting shows for CRN at the time of his death, desiring never to retire.
An enthusiastic learner of languages and foreign traveler, Farber claimed knowledge of about 25 foreign languages. He wrote three books during his lifetime: Making People Talk: You Can Turn Every Conversation into a Magic Moment; How to Learn Any Language: Quickly, Easily, Inexpensively, Enjoyably and on Your Own; and How to Not Make the Same Mistake Once. He was, for a brief time in the late 1970s, a political gadfly, running as a Republican against Congresswoman Bella Abzug and the Conservative Party nominee for NYC mayor against Ed Koch, losing both races but earning respectable publicity.
Farber died May 6, one day after his 90th birthday, from complications from a series of falls.
Obituary from Newsbrig.com (https://newsbrig.com/conservative-talk-radio-pioneer-barry-farber-dies-at-90/6527/)
Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barry_Farber)
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Barry Farber
Famed conservative talk radio pioneer and language enthusiast dies at 90
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c6/Barry_Farber.jpg)
Farber enjoyed a radio career lasting six decades, much of that based in New York City. At various times his work was nationally syndicated, first through Kaiser Broadcasting for a brief period in the late 1970s, by ABC in the late 1980s, and then through both Cable Radio Network and Talk Radio Network (the latter also using Farber as a frequent fill-in for Laura Ingraham and their other talk hosts) beginning in the 1990s. He was still hosting shows for CRN at the time of his death, desiring never to retire.
An enthusiastic learner of languages and foreign traveler, Farber claimed knowledge of about 25 foreign languages. He wrote three books during his lifetime: Making People Talk: You Can Turn Every Conversation into a Magic Moment; How to Learn Any Language: Quickly, Easily, Inexpensively, Enjoyably and on Your Own; and How to Not Make the Same Mistake Once. He was, for a brief time in the late 1970s, a political gadfly, running as a Republican against Congresswoman Bella Abzug and the Conservative Party nominee for NYC mayor against Ed Koch, losing both races but earning respectable publicity.
Farber died May 6, one day after his 90th birthday, from complications from a series of falls.
Obituary from Newsbrig.com (https://newsbrig.com/conservative-talk-radio-pioneer-barry-farber-dies-at-90/6527/)
Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barry_Farber)
I met Barry Farber in 1989, when he was the MC for Congressional legend Hamilton Fish's 101st birthday affair in New York and I was covering the affair for the upstate New York daily for which I worked at the time. He was a nice man who'd answer any question you asked honestly. And he wasn't a bombastic B.S. artist like a lot of radio's talking heads were beginning to become at the time I met him.
RIP Mr. Farber.
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Medal of Honor recipient Ronald Shurer, hero combat medic in Afghanistan, dies at 41 from cancer
...Shurer was a senior medical sergeant in the special forces on April 6, 2008, when his team encountered machine gun and sniper fire and rocket-propelled grenades from militants.
Shurer stabilized one soldier, then fought his way amid gunfire up a mountain to the lead members of the unit. There, he treated and stabilized four more soldiers. Shurer helped evacuate them. He lowered the wounded down the steep mountainside while using his body to shield them from enemy fire.
After he had loaded the wounded in an evacuation helicopter, Shurer went back up the mountain to fight.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2020/05/15/ronald-shurer-medal-honor-recipient-41-dies-cancer/5196854002/ (https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2020/05/15/ronald-shurer-medal-honor-recipient-41-dies-cancer/5196854002/)
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This guy was a real hero. Rest in peace, Sgt. Shurer.
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Medal of Honor recipient Ronald Shurer, hero combat medic in Afghanistan, dies at 41 from cancer
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2020/05/15/ronald-shurer-medal-honor-recipient-41-dies-cancer/5196854002/ (https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2020/05/15/ronald-shurer-medal-honor-recipient-41-dies-cancer/5196854002/)
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This guy was a real hero. Rest in peace, Sgt. Shurer.
Way, way too young! RIP, Sarge!
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Medal of Honor recipient Ronald Shurer, hero combat medic in Afghanistan, dies at 41 from cancer
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2020/05/15/ronald-shurer-medal-honor-recipient-41-dies-cancer/5196854002/ (https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2020/05/15/ronald-shurer-medal-honor-recipient-41-dies-cancer/5196854002/)
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This guy was a real hero. Rest in peace, Sgt. Shurer.
@Applewood
That he was,but as tough as he was,nobody is tougher than cancer when it wants to take you.
A damn shame. He surely had so much more to contribute.
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RIP Sergeant...and thanks from all of us.
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https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/carlos-santana-brother-jorge-santana-dead (https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/carlos-santana-brother-jorge-santana-dead)
Carlos Santana's brother, guitarist Jorge Santana, dead at 68
Carlos Santana's brother Jorge Santana has died. He was 68.
The famed guitarist announced the death of his brother on his official Facebook account early Friday.
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Like Carlos, Jorge became known for his impressive guitar skills, beginning at the reported age of 14 when he joined a band in the 1960s called The Malibus.
Jorge's band later changed their name to Malo. They went on to sign with Warner Bros. and became best known for their hit "Suavecito."
Error 404 (Not Found)!!1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Y7zrudDdx8#)
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Comic Actor Fred Willard Dead at 86: ‘We Loved Him So Very Much,’ Says Daughter
Fred Willard died of natural causes, a rep for the actor confirms to PEOPLE
By Maria Pasquini May 16, 2020 02:43 PM
Beloved film star Fred Willard has died. He was 86.
The comedic star, whose numerous credits include Best in Show, This Is Spinal Tap, Everybody Loves Raymond and Modern Family, died of natural causes, a rep for the actor confirms to PEOPLE.
"My father passed away very peacefully last night at the fantastic age of 86 years old. He kept moving, working and making us happy until the very end," his daughter Hope tells PEOPLE in a statement. "We loved him so very much!"
https://people.com/tv/fred-willard-dead-at-86/
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Comic Actor Fred Willard Dead at 86: ‘We Loved Him So Very Much,’ Says Daughter
Fred Willard died of natural causes, a rep for the actor confirms to PEOPLE
By Maria Pasquini May 16, 2020 02:43 PM
https://people.com/tv/fred-willard-dead-at-86/
RIP, loved him in "Best of Show".
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I liked him in Fernwood Tonight with Martin Mull.
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I liked him in Fernwood Tonight with Martin Mull.
I thought I was the only person alive who remembered that show.
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I thought I was the only person alive who remembered that show.
Heck, I remember Mary Hartman Mary Hartman. Didn't like it, but I did like Soap.
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I liked him in Fernwood Tonight with Martin Mull.
Fernwood 2Night - Talk to a Jew
www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCsnTxjRNPA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCsnTxjRNPA#)
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Phyllis George, pioneering sportscaster and former Miss America, has died
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CNN) — Phyllis George, a broadcast television pioneer who became the first female co-anchor of the football pregame show "The NFL Today," has died. She was 70.
Her death was confirmed by her children, CNN's senior White House correspondent Pamela Brown and entrepreneur Lincoln Brown.
George was born in Denton, Texas, on June 25, 1949. A trained classical pianist in her youth, she attended North Texas Christian University before becoming the 50th Miss America in 1971.
That crown -- and her magnetic personality -- catapulted her to national fame. "It was the springboard to everything I've done in my life," she said in a 2007 interview. She joined the organization's board of directors, one of the first past winners to do so.
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https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/16/media/phyllis-george-death/index.html (https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/16/media/phyllis-george-death/index.html)
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I didn't know who Jorge Santana was, but I do remember Suavacito. Really liked that song.
Fred Willard was good in so many things -- This Is Spinal Tap is one of my favorite movies.
Phyllis George -- I remember when she became a sportscaster. Raised a number of eyebrows back in the day. She was a beauty.
May all of them rest in peace.
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I didn't know who Jorge Santana was, but I do remember Suavacito. Really liked that song.
Fred Willard was good in so many things -- This Is Spinal Tap is one of my favorite movies.
Phyllis George -- I remember when she became a sportscaster. Raised a number of eyebrows back in the day. She was a beauty.
May all of them rest in peace.
It’s really going in threes the last two weeks. Fred Willard was so funny in all those Christopher Guest movies. Best in Show, Spinal Tap. He was on The Simpson’s, so I’m sure they’ll dedicate tonight’s show to him, and he’s on the new Netflix show Space Force which premieres next week and I am sure they’ll dedicate that in his memory as well.
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Heck, I remember Mary Hartman Mary Hartman. Didn't like it, but I did like Soap.
@Cyber Liberty
"Soap" was hysterical.
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It’s really going in threes the last two weeks. Fred Willard was so funny in all those Christopher Guest movies. Best in Show, Spinal Tap. He was on The Simpson’s, so I’m sure they’ll dedicate tonight’s show to him, and he’s on the new Netflix show Space Force which premieres next week and I am sure they’ll dedicate that in his memory as well.
A Mighty Wind was so funny it made me cry.
Fred Willard was hysterical.
Phyllis George.......... a beauty, and almost exactly my age. I'll be interested in finding out how she died.
70 is now very young to me........
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Frank Bielec, an interior designer and one of the stars of TLC's "Trading Spaces," died Friday at age 72.
TLC Network, which aired the series, confirmed Bielec's passing in a tweet, mourning him as a member of their "family."
He was living in Katy, TX.
My wife knew him fairly well.
He would go into her frame shop regular basis.
The last time we saw him, he had a booth set up at an Arts and Crafts show between Richmond and Fulshear, TX.
It was in October, and he had some Halloween artwork he had made, to hang on the doors, etc...
We bought one of them.
He died of a heart attack.
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Frank Bielec, an interior designer and one of the stars of TLC's "Trading Spaces," died Friday at age 72.
TLC Network, which aired the series, confirmed Bielec's passing in a tweet, mourning him as a member of their "family."
He was living in Katy, TX.
My wife knew him fairly well.
He would go into her frame shop regular basis.
The last time we saw him, he had a booth set up at an Arts and Crafts show between Richmond and Fulshear, TX.
It was in October, and he had some Halloween artwork he had made, to hang on the doors, etc...
We bought one of them.
He died of a heart attack.
I used to love that show and Frank was one of my favorite designers. **nononono*
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Ken Osmond, ‘Leave It to Beaver’ Star Who Played Eddie Haskell, Dies at 76
May 18, 2020 10:54am PT
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Ken Osmond, best known for his role at the troublemaker Eddie Haskell on the television comedy “Leave It to Beaver,†died on Monday morning. He was 76.
Sources tell Variety Osmond died at his Los Angeles home surrounded by family members. The cause of death is unknown.
Henry Lane, Osmond’s former partner at the Los Angeles Police Department, also confirmed the news and said he had suffered from respiratory issues.
Osmond, a native of Glendale, Calif., began his career as a child actor with his first speaking part at age 9 in the film “So Big,†starring Jane Wyman and Sterling Hayden, followed by “Good Morning Miss Dove,†and “Everything But the Truth.†He also guest-starred on television series including “Lassie,†“The Adventures of Ozzie and Harriet,†“Wagon Train,†“Fury†and “The Loretta Young Show.â€
In 1957, Osmond auditioned for the the Eddie Haskell role, which was originally intended to be a guest appearance, but those involved with the show were so impressed with Osmond’s portrayal that the character became a key component of the series throughout its six-season run of 234 episodes.
more
https://variety.com/2020/tv/news/ken-osmond-dead-leave-it-to-beaver-eddie-haskell-dies-actor-1234609639/?fbclid=IwAR33s1qmIgPdkZY64_wyp5YHrD9-ZtydBuvxJ7xAh6AtpRwxBPXfwD6hzm0
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At the gates of the Elysian Fields:
Eddie: Well, hello, Mrs. Cleaver, gee but you're still looking very well after all these eons.
Mrs. Cleaver: And you haven't changed a bit, either, Eddie.
RIP.
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Eddie Haskell was the reason I watched LITB. Everybody knew an Eddie Haskell growing up. Playing up to adults while acting like a jerk when adults weren't around.
It's sort of amazing the creators of the show put a scoundrel like Eddie Haskell on a fifties/sixties sitcom.
Usually, the secondary characters have flaws but not quite the rascal like Eddie.
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It's sort of amazing the creators of the show put a scoundrel like Eddie Haskell on a fifties/sixties sitcom.
It's almost a shame that the show didn't last long enough for Eddie to fall in love with Beaver's most obnoxious classmate, Judy. They were made for each other.
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Frank Bielec, an interior designer and one of the stars of TLC's "Trading Spaces," died Friday at age 72.
TLC Network, which aired the series, confirmed Bielec's passing in a tweet, mourning him as a member of their "family."
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Frank was one of our favorite designers on that show. He seemed like a really nice guy.
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Ken Osmond found himself typecast after playing Eddie Haskell. Interesting that he left acting and became a police officer in LA.
Rest in peace, Mr. Osmond.
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Eddie Haskell was the reason I watched LITB. Everybody knew an Eddie Haskell growing up. Playing up to adults while acting like a jerk when adults weren't around.
It's sort of amazing the creators of the show put a scoundrel like Eddie Haskell on a fifties/sixties sitcom.
Usually, the secondary characters have flaws but not quite the rascal like Eddie.
The reason I watched Leave it to Beaver was that I thought Wally was really cute. happy77
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Arizona Diamondbacks outfielder Starling Marte has just tweeted (https://twitter.com/Starlingmart/status/1262540633417437193) that his wife, Noelia, passed away from a heart attack today. Way too young . . .
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Prayers up.
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Arizona Diamondbacks outfielder Starling Marte has just tweeted (https://twitter.com/Starlingmart/status/1262540633417437193) that his wife, Noelia, passed away from a heart attack today. Way too young . . .
Prayers up.
8888crybaby 8888crybaby
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Apparently, according to local news, Mrs. Marte was in the hospital awaiting surgery on her ankle when she died.
We think of heart attacks as killing older people, but sadly, heart disease can kill at any age.
Rest in peace, Mrs. Marte. :0001:
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Apparently, according to local news, Mrs. Marte was in the hospital awaiting surgery on her ankle when she died.
We think of heart attacks as killing older people, but sadly, heart disease can kill at any age.
Rest in peace, Mrs. Marte. :0001:
Prayers up.
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Apparently, according to local news, Mrs. Marte was in the hospital awaiting surgery on her ankle when she died.
We think of heart attacks as killing older people, but sadly, heart disease can kill at any age.
Rest in peace, Mrs. Marte. :0001:
@Applewood
Blood clot?
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@Applewood
Blood clot?
That was my first thought, too. I don't know what the surgery was for, though, so it weemed a mite premature.
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Frank was one of our favorite designers on that show. He seemed like a really nice guy.
Very down-to-earth.
The man you'd see on "Trading Spaces" was the same man you see in real life.
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Very down-to-earth.
The man you'd see on "Trading Spaces" was the same man you see in real life.
@GrouchoTex, that does not surprise me.
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Annie Glenn, widow of former senator and astronaut John Glenn, dies from COVID-19
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Annie Glenn, widow of the late Ohio senator and astronaut John Glenn, has died at age 100 after contracting COVID-19.
A spokesperson for the John Glenn College of Public Affairs at the Ohio State University confirmed to the Associated Press that Glenn died at nursing home in Minnesota on Tuesday morning from complications related to the coronavirus.
Annie Glenn had been married to former Sen. John Glenn (D), who was the first American to orbit the planet, for more than seven decades until his death in 2016. The two had met as toddlers in the 1920s and grew up together before becoming involved romantically in high school and getting married shortly after.
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https://thehill.com/blogs/in-the-know/in-the-know/498534-annie-glenn-widow-of-former-senator-and-astronaut-john-glenn
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Annie Glenn, widow of former senator and astronaut John Glenn, dies from COVID-19
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Annie Glenn, widow of the late Ohio senator and astronaut John Glenn, has died at age 100 after contracting COVID-19.
A spokesperson for the John Glenn College of Public Affairs at the Ohio State University confirmed to the Associated Press that Glenn died at nursing home in Minnesota on Tuesday morning from complications related to the coronavirus.
Annie Glenn had been married to former Sen. John Glenn (D), who was the first American to orbit the planet, for more than seven decades until his death in 2016. The two had met as toddlers in the 1920s and grew up together before becoming involved romantically in high school and getting married shortly after.
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https://thehill.com/blogs/in-the-know/in-the-know/498534-annie-glenn-widow-of-former-senator-and-astronaut-john-glenn
The lady had class to burn.
RIP.
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Lawyerforlaws @lawyer4laws
There Fixed It For You @NBCNews:
Annie Glenn, the widow of Astronaut John Glenn . . Was 100 year old . . Living in a Nursing Home has died.
She tested positive for #Covid19 . *It hasn't been determined if #Covid19 actually caused her death or if it was due to underlying problems.
NBC News @NBCNews
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Annie Glenn, the widow of astronaut and US Sen. John Glenn and a communication disorders advocate, has died of COVID-19 complications at age 100. https://nbcnews.to/3e6WTRv
2:43 PM · May 19, 2020
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Annie Glenn, widow of former senator and astronaut John Glenn, dies from COVID-19
@mystery-ak
No,she died from being 100 years old and living in a nursing home because she had so many physical problems.
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The lady had class to burn.
RIP.
Indeed. Ohio has lost a wonderful woman.
Flags at half staff.
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In this Feb. 3, 1962 file photo, astronaut John Glenn poses with his wife, Annie, outside their Arlington, Va., home during his first news conference.
Annie Glenn was thrust into the spotlight in 1962, when her husband became the first American to orbit Earth. She shied away from media attention because of a severe stutter.
Later, she underwent an intensive program at the Communications Research Institute at Hollins College, now Hollins University, in Roanoke, Virginia, that helped her control her stutter and speak in public.
https://www.foxnews.com/us/annie-glenn-widow-of-u-s-sen-john-glenn-dies-at-100-from-coronavirus (https://www.foxnews.com/us/annie-glenn-widow-of-u-s-sen-john-glenn-dies-at-100-from-coronavirus)
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Married more than 70 years. Seems plenty of marriages nowadays will never get that close.
Rest in peace, Mrs. Glenn.
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Married more than 70 years. Seems plenty of marriages nowadays will never get that close.
The sad part is some marriages now barely last 70 days.
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https://www.christianpost.com/news/now-with-jesus-christian-apologist-ravi-zacharias-dies-at-74.html (https://www.christianpost.com/news/now-with-jesus-christian-apologist-ravi-zacharias-dies-at-74.html)
‘Now with Jesus’: Christian apologist Ravi Zacharias dies at 74
By Michael Gryboski, Christian Post Reporter
CP CURRENT PAGE: CHURCH & MINISTRIES | TUESDAY, MAY 19, 2020
Ravi Zacharias, the prominent Christian apologetics author and speaker, died Tuesday at the age of 74 following a battle with a rare form of cancer.
Zacharias’ daughter, Sarah Davis, posted a message on the website of Ravi Zacharias International Ministries on Tuesday, titled “Ravi Zacharias, Now With Jesus,†confirming that the apologist had passed away.
“It was his Savior, Jesus Christ, that my dad always wanted most to talk about. Even in his final days, until he lacked the energy and breath to speak, he turned every conversation to Jesus and what the Lord had done,†she wrote.
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https://www.christianpost.com/news/now-with-jesus-christian-apologist-ravi-zacharias-dies-at-74.html (https://www.christianpost.com/news/now-with-jesus-christian-apologist-ravi-zacharias-dies-at-74.html)
‘Now with Jesus’: Christian apologist Ravi Zacharias dies at 74
By Michael Gryboski, Christian Post Reporter
CP CURRENT PAGE: CHURCH & MINISTRIES | TUESDAY, MAY 19, 2020
Thank you for posting this Pete. Zacharias was an amazing intellect and great Christian apologist with a fascinating life story.
He will be greatly missed here on earth, but he is surely experiencing great joy in being with his Savior!
Thank you for all your Kingdom work, Ravi!
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The sad part is some marriages now barely last 70 days.
@EasyAce
There is nothing sad about those marriages ending. If they didn't last any longer than that,they should have never happened.
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Married more than 70 years. Seems plenty of marriages nowadays will never get that close.
Rest in peace, Mrs. Glenn.
Indeed. It takes a combination of longevity, commitment, and finding the right one early to have a marriage last that long—and that's why it seems so far out of reach, because most lack at least one of those three.
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@EasyAce
There is nothing sad about those marriages ending. If they didn't last any longer than that,they should have never happened.
@sneakypete
I guess I'm a hopeless enough romantic to feel a certain sadness knowing such marriages exist.
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@sneakypete
I guess I'm a hopeless enough romantic to feel a certain sadness knowing such marriages exist.
@EasyAce
Yeah,we all love the dream,but the reality is the ones that break up that quickly should have never happened to start with,and quickly become living nightmares for both parties if they keep denying the inevitable.
Better to call it off in 30 days if it was a mistake than it is for both to suffer and pretend for 30 years.
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@EasyAce
There is nothing sad about those marriages ending. If they didn't last any longer than that,they should have never happened.
Right. That's what annulments are for.
Waking up, shaking off the hangover and going "I did what? To Who???"
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Indeed. It takes a combination of longevity, commitment, and finding the right one early to have a marriage last that long—and that's why it seems so far out of reach, because most lack at least one of those three.
That, and they practically grew up together.
No surprises, and likely best friends long before they tied the knot.
RIP, Mrs. Glenn.
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https://www.christianpost.com/news/now-with-jesus-christian-apologist-ravi-zacharias-dies-at-74.html (https://www.christianpost.com/news/now-with-jesus-christian-apologist-ravi-zacharias-dies-at-74.html)
‘Now with Jesus’: Christian apologist Ravi Zacharias dies at 74
By Michael Gryboski, Christian Post Reporter
CP CURRENT PAGE: CHURCH & MINISTRIES | TUESDAY, MAY 19, 2020
That sucks. Watching one of his last interviews now.
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That sucks. Watching one of his last interviews now.
@Hoodat
What's a "Christian Apologist",and was he one of them?
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What's a "Christian Apologist",and was he one of them?
I'll quote one of RZ's fellow Christian apologists, Frank Turek, on that: Christian apologetics can be summarized in two parts: (a) objective reasons and evidence that Christianity is true (it corresponds to reality) and, (b) the communication of that truth to the world. more info at CrossExamined.org (https://crossexamined.org/christian-apologetics/).
Yes, Ravi was a Christian apologist. As such, he answered questions about the existence of God, and whether Christianity is true and rational.
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@Hoodat
What's a "Christian Apologist",and was he one of them?
Yes, Ravi Zacharias was a Christian apologist. It is one who defends Christianity through systematic disputation and discourse. No offense. No condemnation. He is an amazing man to listen to. You might find him interesting.
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Yes, Ravi Zacharias was a Christian apologist. It is one who defends Christianity through systematic disputation and discourse. No offense. No condemnation. He is an amazing man to listen to. You might find him interesting.
I listened to him often. Unlike many radio evangelists he was a master storyteller. He spoke often about being in South Vietnam during the war. Those were some of his most poignant sermons.
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I'll quote one of RZ's fellow Christian apologists, Frank Turek, on that: Yes, Ravi was a Christian apologist. As such, he answered questions about the existence of God, and whether Christianity is true and rational.
@mountaineer
Thanks! I asked because that term SEEMS to imply someone who apologizes for Christianity.
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@sneakypete
The etymology of apologia (Greek: ἀπολογία) is derived from the root word apologos (ἀπόλογος), “a speech in defenseâ€., and the corresponding verb form apologeisthai " to speak in one's defense." The Greek philosophers Plato, Isocrates, and Aristotle described apologia as an oratory to defend positions or actions particularly in the sense of a legal defense.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apologia
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@sneakypete
The etymology of apologia (Greek: ἀπολογία) is derived from the root word apologos (ἀπόλογος), “a speech in defenseâ€., and the corresponding verb form apologeisthai " to speak in one's defense." The Greek philosophers Plato, Isocrates, and Aristotle described apologia as an oratory to defend positions or actions particularly in the sense of a legal defense.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apologia
Sometimes words in other languages that look like certain English words mean something quite different. A classic example of this is the Spanish word "Embarazada". It does not mean "embarrassed", :whistle: .
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Jimmy Cobb, the Pulse of Kind of Blue, Dies at 91
Jimmy Cobb, whose subtle and steady drumming formed the pulse of some of jazz's most beloved recordings, died at his home in Manhattan on Sunday. He was 91.
The cause was lung cancer, says his wife, Eleana Tee Cobb.
Cobb was the last surviving member of what's often called Miles Davis' First Great Sextet. He held that title for almost three decades, serving as a conduit for many generations of jazz fans into the band that recorded the music's most iconic and enduring album, Kind of Blue . . .
Error 404 (Not Found)!!1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ylXk1LBvIqU#)
Error 404 (Not Found)!!1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RPfFhfSuUZ4#)
Cobb was also the anchor and last surviving member of the Wynton Kelly Trio (they broke up in 1969 when bassist Paul Chambers died; Kelly died a short time later); here, they're accompanied by some friendly guy named Wes . . .
Error 404 (Not Found)!!1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RiWXHq_xvjg#)
RIP
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Sometimes words in other languages that look like certain English words mean something quite different. A classic example of this is the Spanish word "Embarazada". It does not mean "embarrassed", :whistle: .
Well, you might be if it wasn't planned.
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Well, you might be if it wasn't planned.
It's a twofer. Embarrassed and embarazada.
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****drummer
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Christo, artist known for massive, fleeting displays, dies
NEW YORK (AP) — Christo, known for massive, ephemeral public arts projects, has died. He was 84.
His death was announced on Twitter and the artist’s web page. No cause of death was given.
Along with his late wife Jeanne-Claude, the artists careers were defined by the massive, ambitious art projects that quickly disappeared soon after they were erected. In 2001, he installed more than 7,500 vinyl gates in New York’s Central Park and and wrapped the Reichstag in Berlin in fabric with an aluminum sheen in 1995.
The statement said the artist’s next project, L’Arc de Triomphe, Wrapped, is slated to appear in September in Paris as planned.
https://apnews.com/c62953312b2a915582eb896ed8f747a0?utm_source=PushNotification
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Christo, artist known for massive, fleeting displays, dies
https://apnews.com/c62953312b2a915582eb896ed8f747a0?utm_source=PushNotification
I saw “The Gates†in Central Park. Thank you Mr. Christo for that lovely day.
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I saw “The Gates†in Central Park. Thank you Mr. Christo for that lovely day.
I only saw the anchors for the curtain in Rifle Gap. IIRC, that one has some wind problems.
Will he be wrapped in pink for his internment?
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I only saw the anchors for the curtain in Rifle Gap. IIRC, that one has some wind problems.
Will he be wrapped in pink for his internment?
@Smokin Joe was that the umbrellas?
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@Smokin Joe was that the umbrellas?
@Gefn No, it was the "Valley Curtain" north of Rifle, Colorado. More on that project here: https://christojeanneclaude.net/mobile/projects?p=valley-curtain (https://christojeanneclaude.net/mobile/projects?p=valley-curtain)
The prevailing wind through the gap was unkind to the artist's concept.
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Image from this commentary: https://www.janetgeibpretti.com/2006/11/valuing_the_une.html (https://www.janetgeibpretti.com/2006/11/valuing_the_une.html)
The umbrella project was in Japan and California, iirc. https://christojeanneclaude.net/projects/the-umbrellas (https://christojeanneclaude.net/projects/the-umbrellas) (Blue and yellow)
Wind proved to be the enemy there, also, as one of the umbrellas toppled, trapping a woman between a boulder and the umbrella, causing her death.
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A year after the man who dethroned him passed away . . .
Herbert Stempel, whistleblower in quiz show scandals, dies at 93 (https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/obituaries/herbert-stempel-whistleblower-in-quiz-show-scandals-dies-at-93/2020/05/31/41095fc8-a35d-11ea-bb20-ebf0921f3bbd_story.html?fbclid=IwAR3lVTVPSMAm5fLncibAwjwHp7Ndjn49yc875AkOWRitTKJ_KkDGaWTtIVg)
By David P. Marino-Nachison
https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/obituaries/herbert-stempel-whistleblower-in-quiz-show-scandals-dies-at-93/2020/05/31/41095fc8-a35d-11ea-bb20-ebf0921f3bbd_story.html?fbclid=IwAR3lVTVPSMAm5fLncibAwjwHp7Ndjn49yc875AkOWRitTKJ_KkDGaWTtIVg (https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/obituaries/herbert-stempel-whistleblower-in-quiz-show-scandals-dies-at-93/2020/05/31/41095fc8-a35d-11ea-bb20-ebf0921f3bbd_story.html?fbclid=IwAR3lVTVPSMAm5fLncibAwjwHp7Ndjn49yc875AkOWRitTKJ_KkDGaWTtIVg)
Herbert Stempel, the Bronx-born brainiac who became a central figure and whistleblower in the game show rigging scandals of the 1950s, a cultural turning point later chronicled in the 1994 movie “Quiz Show,†died April 7 at a nursing home in New York City. He was 93.
His former wife Ethel Stempel did not give a precise cause but confirmed the death, which was not publicly announced and was first reported on Sunday by the New York Times . . .
. . . “I wouldn’t call him a saint or a sinner,†TV historian Wesley Hyatt said of Mr. Stempel. “More than anything else, he was just a human being who was caught in a situation that was unprecedented. He did some wise things, and he did some not-so-wise things" . . .
Classic line from the film Quiz Show, which Stempel actually did say when seeing TV commercials for the show on which he was defeated: "Tonight, watch Herb Stempel be fed to the Columbia lion. Watch Charles Van Doren eat his first kosher meal."
RIP Mr. Stempel.
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Legendary Auburn football coach Pat Dye dead at 80
By: Bob D'Angelo, Cox Media Group National Content Desk
Updated: June 1, 2020 - 2:55 PM
AUBURN, Ala. — Pat Dye, who led Auburn’s football team to four Southeastern Conference championships during his 12-year coaching career at the university, died Monday. He was 80.
Dye had tested positive for the coronavirus while he was hospitalized in Atlanta with kidney issues, his son told ESPN last month. Dye’s death was first reported by 247Sports.
Dye led the Tigers to a 99-39-4 record from 1981 to 1992, winning at least a share of SEC championships in 1983, 1987, 1988 and 1989. His Auburn teams won at least 10 games in a season four times and won six bowl games.
https://www.wsbtv.com/news/trending/coronavirus-legendary-auburn-football-coach-pat-dye-dead-80/MHSZ7IYVPJGC5FKYXXSHRQD5ZE/ (https://www.wsbtv.com/news/trending/coronavirus-legendary-auburn-football-coach-pat-dye-dead-80/MHSZ7IYVPJGC5FKYXXSHRQD5ZE/)
Actual cause of death not given, although the report leaves the reader with the impression that Dye is a coronavirus casualty. Dye was a UGA grad who led Auburn against UGA and their Auburn-grad head coach Vince Dooly.
@Sighlass
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@EasyAce
"Kind of Blue" would be one of my stranded-on-a-desert-island album choices, along with "Milestones".
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@EasyAce
"Kind of Blue" would be one of my stranded-on-a-desert-island album choices, along with "Milestones".
@GrouchoTex
Had I not gotten to hear and obtain the following box set, I would have agreed with those two choices . . .
(https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/71GwTVLgkYL._SS500_.jpg)
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Bonnie Pointer of The Pointer Sisters Dies at 69
Bonnie Pointer, founding member of '70s vocal group the Pointer Sisters, has died at 69. TMZ reports that her sister (and former groupmate) Anita Pointer confirmed Bonnie's passing, saying, "It is with great sadness that I have to announce to the fans of The Pointer Sisters that my sister, Bonnie died this morning. Our family is devastated, on behalf of my siblings and I and the entire Pointer family, we ask for your prayers at this time.â€
https://www.billboard.com/articles/news/obituary/9398424/bonnie-pointer-pointer-sisters-dies (https://www.billboard.com/articles/news/obituary/9398424/bonnie-pointer-pointer-sisters-dies)
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Bonnie Pointer of The Pointer Sisters Dies at 69
https://www.billboard.com/articles/news/obituary/9398424/bonnie-pointer-pointer-sisters-dies (https://www.billboard.com/articles/news/obituary/9398424/bonnie-pointer-pointer-sisters-dies)
I had no idea they were so young! RIP, Ms Pointer.
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Bonnie Pointer of The Pointer Sisters Dies at 69
https://www.billboard.com/articles/news/obituary/9398424/bonnie-pointer-pointer-sisters-dies (https://www.billboard.com/articles/news/obituary/9398424/bonnie-pointer-pointer-sisters-dies)
@Applewood
This hurts. She and her sisters SANG.
Error 404 (Not Found)!!1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SS6NXsgEoSw#)
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Katie Williams Dunning
Daughter of Hank Williams, Jr. dies at 27
Williams-Dunning, the daughter of Hank Williams, Jr., had operated clothing designer Weston Jane. She and her husband were in an SUV that was driving down Tennessee Highway 79 when the vehicle crossed the median and rolled over. Her husband survived but was injured; she was killed. She leaves behind two young children.
Obituary from The Tennesseean (https://www.tennessean.com/story/entertainment/music/2020/06/14/daughter-hank-williams-jr-killed-car-crash-henry-county-katie-williams-dunning/3186608001/)
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Tragic. So young. Rest in peace, Mrs. Williams-Dunning. Prayers for her loved ones. :0001:
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Katie Williams Dunning
Daughter of Hank Williams, Jr. dies at 27
Williams-Dunning, the daughter of Hank Williams, Jr., had operated clothing designer Weston Jane. She and her husband were in an SUV that was driving down Tennessee Highway 79 when the vehicle crossed the median and rolled over. Her husband survived but was injured; she was killed. She leaves behind two young children.
Obituary from The Tennesseean (https://www.tennessean.com/story/entertainment/music/2020/06/14/daughter-hank-williams-jr-killed-car-crash-henry-county-katie-williams-dunning/3186608001/)
Damn, that just sucks. I read an article about her just a few months back. She seemed like a real go getter.
And I feel for Hank. You should never have to bury a child.
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Damn, that just sucks. I read an article about her just a few months back. She seemed like a real go getter.
And I feel for Hank. You should never have to bury a child.
@Free Vulcan
That has to be the saddest thing in the whole damn world. It upsets the natural order of things. It's contrary to nature.
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Damn, that just sucks. I read an article about her just a few months back. She seemed like a real go getter.
And I feel for Hank. You should never have to bury a child.
I agree.
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@Free Vulcan
That has to be the saddest thing in the whole damn world. It upsets the natural order of things. It's contrary to nature.
24 years of teaching I have seen about a dozen parents go through this. It never gets better or easier. i can't imagine there is a pain greater.
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24 years of teaching I have seen about a dozen parents go through this. It never gets better or easier. i can't imagine there is a pain greater.
@verga
I thank God my parents weren't alive to see my younger brother get killed in 1998. (He was 38.) Bad enough I had to bury him. (The good news: the bastard who shot him got 25 years no parole, and at his age and health conditions at the time of the trial he wasn't liable to leave prison except in a coffin.)
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My mother's younger sister passed at 49. Her father was inconsolable. He kept saying, why didn't God take me? I'm old. I'm ready to go.
Hard to come up with an explanation or words of consolation.
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My mother's younger sister passed at 49. Her father was inconsolable. He kept saying, why didn't God tale me? I'm old. I'm ready to go.
Hard to come up with an explanation or words of consolation.
Having had a couple of friends in this situation, the only consolation I could come up with is that sometimes God picks his most beautiful and special flowers first. It probably didn't help at the time...maybe later?
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Jean Raspail, author of one of the most prescient books of the twentieth century died on June 13 at age 94:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean_Raspail (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean_Raspail)
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/90/Jean_Raspail_-_Portrait_-_2010.jpg/220px-Jean_Raspail_-_Portrait_-_2010.jpg)
(https://images.newrepublic.com/989332f7d74f3eb00e3e303f683d5e7281ce042c.jpeg?w=400&q=65&dpi=2.625&fm=pjpg&h=619)
Hard copies of The Camp of the Saints are growing expensive to find, even used. Amazon still sells the book in digital format, but there's no need to pay them for it.
It can be found downloadable (or readable in your browser) here:
https://www.jrbooksonline.com/PDFs/Camp_of_the_Saints.pdf (https://www.jrbooksonline.com/PDFs/Camp_of_the_Saints.pdf)
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It can be found downloadable (or readable in your browser) here:
https://www.jrbooksonline.com/PDFs/Camp_of_the_Saints.pdf (https://www.jrbooksonline.com/PDFs/Camp_of_the_Saints.pdf)
Thanks.
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Dame Vera Lynn has died at the age of 103, her family says.
Key Points:
Dame Vera Lynn died on Thursday morning 'surrounded by her close family'
She made morale-boosting visits to the front line during the Second World War
Queen referenced her song We’ll Meet Again when she spoke to the nation during the lockdown
https://news.sky.com/story/dame-vera-lynn-tributes-pour-in-as-forces-sweetheart-dies-aged-103-12009471
(Breaking)
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Ok. Someone has to say/quote it. It might as well be me.
“Does anybody here remember Vera Lynn?....â€
Pink Floyd, The Wall.
103, and a good life. Rest In Peace, Dame Vera Lynn.
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Ok. Someone has to say/quote it. It might as well be me.
“Does anybody here remember Vera Lynn?....â€
Pink Floyd, The Wall.
103, and a good life. Rest In Peace, Dame Vera Lynn.
@Gefn
At 103,she was probably needing the rest and looking forward to it.
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@Gefn
At 103,she was probably needing the rest and looking forward to it.
103 is a good long life. Amen @sneakypete
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Error 404 (Not Found)!!1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HsM_VmN6ytk#)
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Jean Kennedy Smith
Last of the Kennedy siblings dies at 92
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b0/Jean_Kennedy_c1953.jpg/220px-Jean_Kennedy_c1953.jpg)
Kennedy Smith was arguably the most obscure of the nine children of Joseph Kennedy, Sr. Lacking the high profile political positions of her brothers John F. Kennedy, Robert F. Kennedy or Ted Kennedy, or the tragic outcomes of JFK, RFK, brother Joseph Jr. and sister Kathleen Cavendish, Jean Kennedy Smith largely kept a moderately low profile as a political operative for her brothers, as a philanthropist for those with special needs (her organization VSA focused on arts, as opposed to her sister Eunice, whose Special Olympics focused on athletics), and during Bill Clinton's administration, ambassador to Ireland.
Smith died June 17.
Obituary from the CBC (https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/jean-kennedy-smith-obit-1.5617113)
Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean_Kennedy_Smith)
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Yeah I heard all the stories about the Kennedys and their corruption, starting with that miserable old man Joe. But I admired President Kennedy and was ok with his brother, Robert, the AG. Sure they were Democrats, but they were patriots. Most Democrats in their day were. I'd like to think they would be appalled by what their party has become today. Well, maybe except for that a-hole, Ted.
Really didn't know much about Mrs. Smith -- as the obituary says, she kept a low profile politically, preferring to focus on charitable endeavors. But with Mrs. Smith gone, we have the last of her generation of Kennedys -- the patriotic generation which served the nation. Now we are stuck with the kids and grandkids -- spoiled, selfish, hedonistic brats with not a working brain cell among them.
Rest in peace. Mrs. Smith.
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Yeah I heard all the stories about the Kennedys and their corruption, starting with that miserable old man Joe. But I admired President Kennedy and was ok with his brother, Robert, the AG. Sure they were Democrats, but they were patriots. Most Democrats in their day were. I'd like to think they would be appalled by what their party has become today. Well, maybe except for that a-hole, Ted.
Really didn't know much about Mrs. Smith -- as the obituary says, she kept a low profile politically, preferring to focus on charitable endeavors. But with Mrs. Smith gone, we have the last of her generation of Kennedys -- the patriotic generation which served the nation. Now we are stuck with the kids and grandkids -- spoiled, selfish, hedonistic brats with not a working brain cell among them.
We were---every one of us---raised to be the President.---Chris Lawford.
Rest in peace. Mrs. Smith.
For her work with the disabled---she approached them from the artistic vantage point as her late sister Eunice did the athletic---I had nothing but admiration for her.
RIP.
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Yeah I heard all the stories about the Kennedys and their corruption, starting with that miserable old man Joe. But I admired President Kennedy and was ok with his brother, Robert, the AG. Sure they were Democrats, but they were patriots.
@Applewood
Sure thing. All you have to do is set aside the fact they were behind the death of Marylin Monroe,and Bobby used his position to kick off the race wars on the 60's by sending trained and paid communist agitators to the south to organize the blacks and get them to riot.
Oh,and let's not forget JKF's associating with Nazi agents in the early days of WW-2 ,his daddy being fired from being the Ambassador to the Court of St James in England after it was discovered he was sending war plans to the IRA to pass on to the Nazi's)
Little things,like that.
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@Applewood
Sure thing. All you have to do is set aside the fact they were behind the death of Marylin Monroe,and Bobby used his position to kick off the race wars on the 60's by sending trained and paid communist agitators to the south to organize the blacks and get them to riot.
Oh,and let's not forget JKF's associating with Nazi agents in the early days of WW-2 ,his daddy being fired from being the Ambassador to the Court of St James in England after it was discovered he was sending war plans to the IRA to pass on to the Nazi's)
Little things,like that.
@sneakypete
I knew you would be along with your endless conspiracy theories about the Kennedys. Question is, what took you so long? LOL
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@sneakypete
I knew you would be along with your endless conspiracy theories about the Kennedys. Question is, what took you so long? LOL
@Applewood
Only a clueless drone would confuse historical FACT with theories.
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@Applewood
Only a clueless drone would confuse historical FACT with theories.
@sneakypete
Well, I'd argue with you about that, but I think this running thread is meant to announce the passing of important persons and to honor them, not to have a political debate. As the article says, Mrs. Smith stayed out of the political limelight, so I doubt she was directly involved in any Kennedy wrongdoing. I already said too much about the Kennedys. I'd rather drop the rest and just say RIP.
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Ian Holm, star of Lord of the Rings, Alien and Chariots of Fire, dies aged 88
Andrew Pulver
Fri 19 Jun 2020 07.32 EDT
Last modified on Fri 19 Jun 2020 08.11 EDT
Ian Holm, the versatile actor who played everything from androids to hobbits via Harold Pinter and King Lear, has died in London aged 88, his agent confirmed to the Guardian.
“It is with great sadness that the actor Sir Ian Holm CBE passed away this morning at the age of 88,†they said. “He died peacefully in hospital, with his family and carer,†adding that his illness was Parkinson’s related. “Charming, kind and ferociously talented, we will miss him hugely.â€
Holm’s final days were documented in a series of pastel portraits by his wife, Sophie de Stempel.
Holm, who won a Bafta and was nominated for an Oscar for his role as maverick athletics coach Sam Mussabini in the 1981 film Chariots of Fire, may have looked destined for a career in colourful supporting roles on screen – especially after quitting the theatre in 1976 after a severe case of stage fright – but he found a new generation of admirers after being cast as Bilbo Baggins in the blockbusting Lord of the Rings trilogy. ...
(https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/a0e5dabf00a83c66a92bfcaafd5c7bc406a21f1d/294_102_1195_717/master/1195.jpg?width=1020&quality=85&auto=format&fit=max&s=df43fa5782950b8c78d6370a99543b32)
The Guardian (https://www.theguardian.com/film/2020/jun/19/ian-holm-dies-alien-chariots-of-fire-bilbo-baggins?CMP=twt_gu&utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium#Echobox=1592566683)
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@sneakypete
Well, I'd argue with you about that, but I think this running thread is meant to announce the passing of important persons and to honor them, not to have a political debate. As the article says, Mrs. Smith stayed out of the political limelight, so I doubt she was directly involved in any Kennedy wrongdoing. I already said too much about the Kennedys. I'd rather drop the rest and just say RIP.
@Applewood
ALL of the Kennedy women were nothing more than political accessories,so they were and are all blameless of anything more that marrying criminal idiots and traitors.
And I seriously doubt any of them had the first clue as to what was going on because in that family,only males were important.
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:im waiting: This isn't the Alternate Realities forum. :im waiting:
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Sorry @Mod2.
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Sorry @Mod2.
No need to apologize for getting the thread back on track.
I'm sorry to hear Bilbo has passed....
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Ian Holm, star of Lord of the Rings, Alien and Chariots of Fire, dies aged 88
Andrew Pulver
Fri 19 Jun 2020 07.32 EDT
Last modified on Fri 19 Jun 2020 08.11 EDT
Ian Holm, the versatile actor who played everything from androids to hobbits via Harold Pinter and King Lear, has died in London aged 88, his agent confirmed to the Guardian.
“It is with great sadness that the actor Sir Ian Holm CBE passed away this morning at the age of 88,†they said. “He died peacefully in hospital, with his family and carer,†adding that his illness was Parkinson’s related. “Charming, kind and ferociously talented, we will miss him hugely.â€
Holm’s final days were documented in a series of pastel portraits by his wife, Sophie de Stempel.
Holm, who won a Bafta and was nominated for an Oscar for his role as maverick athletics coach Sam Mussabini in the 1981 film Chariots of Fire, may have looked destined for a career in colourful supporting roles on screen – especially after quitting the theatre in 1976 after a severe case of stage fright – but he found a new generation of admirers after being cast as Bilbo Baggins in the blockbusting Lord of the Rings trilogy. ...
(https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/a0e5dabf00a83c66a92bfcaafd5c7bc406a21f1d/294_102_1195_717/master/1195.jpg?width=1020&quality=85&auto=format&fit=max&s=df43fa5782950b8c78d6370a99543b32)
The Guardian (https://www.theguardian.com/film/2020/jun/19/ian-holm-dies-alien-chariots-of-fire-bilbo-baggins?CMP=twt_gu&utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium#Echobox=1592566683)
Error 404 (Not Found)!!1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Yy0pPTrHlk#)
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No need to apologize for getting the thread back on track.
I'm sorry to hear Bilbo has passed....
Me, too. He did that part so well.
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Jim Kiick
Miami Dolphins halfback dies at 73
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Kiick's jersey number with the Miami Dolphins
Kiick was best known as the tandem partner of Larry Csonka, the Hall of Fame fullback. The two were first paired together in 1968 and the two were inseparable for the next eight seasons, playing seven with the Miami Dolphins (including their three straight Super Bowl appearances, including two wins and their still-unmatched perfect season of 1972). In 1975 they jumped to the World Football League with the Memphis Southmen, but this turned out to be the beginning of the end of their run: after the New York Giants signed Csonka but not Kiick, the two split in different directions, with Kiick finishing his career with stints in Denver and Washington.
Kiick died June 20 following several years of dementia.
Obituary from the South Florida Sun-Sentinel (https://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/miami-dolphins/fl-sp-jim-kiick-obituary-miami-dolphins-20200620-vkbcmoaqljdnffsygpbn4lkham-story.html)
Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Kiick)
Career stats (https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/K/KiicJi00.htm)
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Liz Hurley pays tribute to her millionaire ex Steve Bing, 55 - the absent father of her son Damian, 18 - after he jumped to his death from his 27th floor LA apartment and reveals they had become friends again in the last year
Steve Bing killed himself Monday by jumping from the 27th floor of his LA apartment amid a depression battle
Liz Hurley, who he dated from 2000 until 2002 when she fell pregnant with their son sparking a bitter paternity fight, has paid tribute - saying she is 'saddened beyond belief' and calling him a 'sweet, kind man'
She revealed that the pair had become close again, and last spoke on son Damian's 18th birthday in April
Bing was also involved in paternity fight over daughter Kira Kerkorian, his child with tennis star Lisa Bonder
A real estate heir who inherited $600m on his 18th birthday, Bing was also a movie writer and producer
Bing was thought to be worth $590m when he died, and had paid $100k-a-year into a trust fund for Damian
Here’s how to help people impacted by Covid-19
By Chris Pleasance for MailOnline and Kelby Vera and Harriet Alexander For Dailymail.com
Published: 21:04 EDT, 22 June 2020 | Updated: 08:53 EDT, 23 June 2020
Liz Hurley has paid tribute to her multimillionaire ex Steve Bing - the father of her son Damian – after he jumped to his death from the 27th floor of his Los Angeles apartment block amid a battle with depression.
The British actress, 55, said she was 'saddened beyond belief' at the news of his suicide, at the luxurious Ten Thousand Building at 1pm on Monday, calling it a 'terrible end'.
The real estate heir, also 55 and thought to be worth $590million at the time of his death, took his own life having become depressed amid a lack of human contact during lockdown, sources told TMZ (https://www.tmz.com/2020/06/22/kangaroo-jack-writer-steve-bing-dead-suicide/). ...
Daily Mail (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8449383/Kangaroo-Jack-writer-Steve-Bing-55-jumps-death-27th-floor-LA-apartment.html)
From the story: "Former president Bill Clinton, a friend of Bing and recipient of his donations via the Clinton Foundation, also paid tribute to him, tweeting: 'I loved Steve Bing very much.'"
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Liz Hurley pays tribute to her millionaire ex Steve Bing, 55 - the absent father of her son Damian, 18 - after he jumped to his death from his 27th floor LA apartment and reveals they had become friends again in the last year
Liz Hurley, who he dated from 2000 until 2002 when she fell pregnant with their son sparking a bitter paternity fight, has paid tribute - saying she is 'saddened beyond belief' and calling him a 'sweet, kind man'
Daily Mail (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8449383/Kangaroo-Jack-writer-Steve-Bing-55-jumps-death-27th-floor-LA-apartment.html)
From the story: "Former president Bill Clinton, a friend of Bing and recipient of his donations via the Clinton Foundation, also paid tribute to him, tweeting: 'I loved Steve Bing very much.'"
"Fell pregnant?" Sounds like it was a really horrible thing that happened.
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"Fell pregnant?" Sounds like it was a really horrible thing that happened.
Good catch. I stil don't understand what that means in this context... Rape? Unexpected? Messed up her acting career?
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Good catch. I stil don't understand what that means in this context... Rape? Unexpected? Messed up her acting career?
It's The Mail, (British) so maybe she was just in a strop? 333cleo
(How bad do things have to be to jump off a 27-storie building? It's too horrible to contemplate.)
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"Fell pregnant?" Sounds like it was a really horrible thing that happened.
And completely beyond explanation. How the heck did that happen, I wonder?
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And completely beyond explanation. How the heck did that happen, I wonder?
Well, a doctor friend of mine had to extract a peanut butter jar from a guy's hind end.. Swore up and down he fell on it in the shower... And up it went... Makes one wonder why he had a peanut butter jar sitting on the floor of the shower but who's to say, I guess :shrug: :whistle:
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Well, a doctor friend of mine had to extract a peanut butter jar from a guy's hind end.. Swore up and down he fell on it in the shower... And up it went... Makes one wonder why he had a peanut butter jar sitting on the floor of the shower but who's to say, I guess :shrug: :whistle:
Chunky or creamy? :silly: :silly: :silly:
Oh. nevermind.
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Chunky or creamy? :silly: :silly: :silly:
Oh. nevermind.
Folks really ought to naturally have a category called:
"Thing's I won't try till I can figure out how to reasonably explain it to the doctor" :shrug: :silly:
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Folks really ought to naturally have a category called:
"Thing's I won't try till I can figure out how to reasonably explain it to the doctor" :shrug: :silly:
There'd be one pretty quick, stuff you just can't explain, especially to the doctor...
(Apparently, no gerbils were injured in the above incident...)
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There'd be one pretty quick, stuff you just can't explain, especially to the doctor...
(Apparently, no gerbils were injured in the above incident...)
At LEAST plausible deniability... c'mon, right? :laugh:
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Daily Mail (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8449383/Kangaroo-Jack-writer-Steve-Bing-55-jumps-death-27th-floor-LA-apartment.html)
From the story: "Former president Bill Clinton, a friend of Bing and recipient of his donations via the Clinton Foundation, also paid tribute to him, tweeting: 'I loved Steve Bing very much.'"
"Fell pregnant?" Sounds like it was a really horrible thing that happened.
@Cyber Liberty
One should always be careful to never trip and fall down around millionaires. They have lawyers,and other magical characters on retainer.
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@Cyber Liberty
One should always be careful to never trip and fall down around millionaires. They have lawyers,and other magical characters on retainer.
I'm just surprised a celeb allowed herself to be "punished with a baby."
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I'm just surprised a celeb allowed herself to be "punished with a baby."
@Cyber Liberty
Well,sometimes when your career is kinda on hold and there are no foreign billionaires insight to jazz it up a little,there are always headlines.
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Well, a doctor friend of mine had to extract a peanut butter jar from a guy's hind end.. Swore up and down he fell on it in the shower... And up it went... Makes one wonder why he had a peanut butter jar sitting on the floor of the shower but who's to say, I guess :shrug: :whistle:
One of my sisters was an emergency room nurse for a number of years. At one family gathering she related a number of hilarious stories about various objects doctors had to extract from people's anal orifices.
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One of my sisters was an emergency room nurse for a number of years. At one family gathering she related a number of hilarious stories about various objects doctors had to extract from people's anal orifices.
I guess I'm just not all that adventurous... Or something... :terror:
***ONE WAY*** DO NOT ENTER*** UNLOADING ZONE*** NO PARKING*** WARNING!!! EMANATING GASES MAY BE CAUSTIC! ****
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I guess I'm just not all that adventurous... Or something... :terror:
***ONE WAY*** DO NOT ENTER*** UNLOADING ZONE*** NO PARKING*** WARNING!!! EMANATING GASES MAY BE CAUSTIC! ****
:shrug: :whistle:
Nothing goes in the out door...with the very rare exception of a colonoscopy or a prostate check.
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Comedy legend Carl Reiner is dead at 98
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Carl Reiner, the legendary creator of "The Dick Van Dyke Show" and numerous big-screen hits, has died at 98, Variety and others are reporting early Tuesday. He died of natural causes, the Hollywood trade magazine reported, citing Reiner's publicist.
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/comedy-legend-carl-reiner-is-dead-at-98-2020-06-30?mod=home-page (https://www.marketwatch.com/story/comedy-legend-carl-reiner-is-dead-at-98-2020-06-30?mod=home-page)
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Two classics:
Carl Reiner & Mel Brooks, "The 2,000 Year Old Man"
Error 404 (Not Found)!!1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RI7wDpBRqjo#)
The Dick Van Dyke Show, "Coast to Coast Big Mouth" (which may have been Reiner's crowning moment as, shall we say, mercurial Alan Brady)
Error 404 (Not Found)!!1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHStKXuBzlM#)
RIP Mr. Reiner. You were an American treasure.
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One of the giants of early TV.
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Yeah, I know -- Reiner was a liberal. But he was one of the greats among old time comedians.
@EasyAce Thanks for the video of the absolute best episode of the Dick Van Dyke Show. Classic.
Rest in peace, Mr. Reiner.
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Two classics:
Carl Reiner & Mel Brooks, "The 2,000 Year Old Man"
Error 404 (Not Found)!!1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RI7wDpBRqjo#)
The Dick Van Dyke Show, "Coast to Coast Big Mouth" (which may have been Reiner's crowning moment as, shall we say, mercurial Alan Brady)
Error 404 (Not Found)!!1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHStKXuBzlM#)
RIP Mr. Reiner. You were an American treasure.
I was always amused at the setup of the Dick Van Dyke show. It was about the comedy writers for Allen Brady, but in real life Allen Brady was the comedy writer for Rob, Sally and Buddy.
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Yeah, I know -- Reiner was a liberal. But he was one of the greats among old time comedians.
Finding a conservative in Hollywood is a rarity. The few that are, are dealt with in a Whack-a-Mole fashion.
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I was always amused at the setup of the Dick Van Dyke show. It was about the comedy writers for Allen Brady, but in real life Allen Brady was the comedy writer for Rob, Sally and Buddy.
Reiner based the show on his experiences as a performer and occasional writer on Sid Caesar's Your Show of Shows and Caesar's Hour, even though Caesar himself wasn't half as (shall we say) mercurial as Alan Brady. (Other writers included Mel Brooks, Neil Simon, future M*A*S*H writer Larry Gelbart, and Woody Allen, among others.) Among the writers he also engaged for The Dick Van Dyke Show was John Whedon, who'd once been the co-writer (teaming with Sam Moore) for the 1940s radio hit The Great Gildersleeve; and, Phil Leslie, the protege of Don Quinn who eventually took over from Quinn as the head writer of another radio legend, Fibber McGee & Molly.
(Phil Leslie eventually had a hilarious coda to his career as a broadcast writer---he co-wrote several episodes of The Addams Family in the mid-1960s!)
If any 1950s television star was a match or near-match for Alan Brady's temperament, it was probably Red Buttons---who scored big with The Red Buttons Show in 1952 but had such a talent for alienating everyone who worked with him with his tantrums that the show was dead meat after three years. Buttons had to remake/remodel his career almost entirely after he came that close to destroying it. He was a classic example of an overnight success whose unexpected success didn't just go to but shot right through his own head. He ended up making a distinguished career in due course as a supporting player, but he destroyed his own hard-earned shot as a big-timer.
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An early Carl Reiner classic, with Sid Caesar . . .
Your Show of Shows, "Emergency!"
Error 404 (Not Found)!!1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVEOGao0cf8#)
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Finding a conservative in Hollywood is a rarity. The few that are, are dealt with in a Whack-a-Mole fashion.
You're right. But I only mentioned Reiner's liberal bend because there are some in here who will ignore his comic genius and whine about his politics instead. Reiner was indeed a treasure. He and many of his contemporaries were truly funny -- not like many of today's so-called comics. I mourn Reiner's passing because as he joins most of his contemporaries, we are being left with little more than nasty, unfunny political garbage as a substitute for real comedy.
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Comedy legend Carl Reiner is dead at 98
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/comedy-legend-carl-reiner-is-dead-at-98-2020-06-30?mod=home-page (https://www.marketwatch.com/story/comedy-legend-carl-reiner-is-dead-at-98-2020-06-30?mod=home-page)
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Yet Dick van Dyke (and Kieth Richards) live.
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The last thing I saw Mr Reiner in was “Two and a half Menâ€. He played the mother’s nonagenarian boyfriend. He was still funny.
Rest In Peace
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Benny Mardones
One-hit wonder best known for "Into the Night" dies at 73
Obituary from Billboard (https://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/rock/9402923/benny-mardones-into-the-night-dead-73)
Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benny_Mardones)
Error 404 (Not Found)!!1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4aWhn0Hc8ps#)
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Benny Mardones
One-hit wonder best known for "Into the Night" dies at 73
Obituary from Billboard (https://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/rock/9402923/benny-mardones-into-the-night-dead-73)
Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benny_Mardones)
Error 404 (Not Found)!!1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4aWhn0Hc8ps#)
One of the oddest singles to become a hit, given the times, ever recorded.
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Yet Dick van Dyke (and Kieth Richards) live.
Dick Van Dyke and Larry Mathews (who played little Richie Petrie) are now the only surviving cast members of The Dick Van Dyke Show.
Keith Richards simply doesn't realise he died circa 1972.
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Dick Van Dyke and Larry Mathews (who played little Richie Petrie) are now the only surviving cast members of The Dick Van Dyke Show.
Keith Richards simply doesn't realise he died circa 1972.
I’d forgotten about Richie...
Inside the album jacket for Exile on Main St there’s a pic of Kieth with a IV in his arm running to a Jack Daniels bottle. I thought he was joking.
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I’d forgotten about Richie...
Inside the album jacket for Exile on Main St there’s a pic of Kieth with a IV in his arm running to a Jack Daniels bottle. I thought he was joking.
Had to look it up, but apparently in Richards case genetic longevity is trumping lifestyle. His mother died at age 91, father 84.
I guess he could visit the graves, but he snorted his father's ashes.
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One of the oddest singles to become a hit, given the times, ever recorded.
Not as odd as you think---a fair number of R&B ballads were scoring hits even at the peak of the disco era.
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Had to look it up, but apparently in Richards case genetic longevity is trumping lifestyle. His mother died at age 91, father 84.
I guess he could visit the graves, but he snorted his father's ashes.
"Keith Richards says, 'kids shouldn't do drugs'......Keith, we can't do any drugs, because you already done them all, there's none left! We have to wait until you die, so we can smoke your ashes!" - Dennis Leary
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Not as odd as you think---a fair number of R&B ballads were scoring hits even at the peak of the disco era.
I suppose so. This one smacked of Burt Bacharach to me.
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One thing I remember about Into the Night -- when it first came out, a local DJ trashed it Said the song was whiny and depressing. Wouldn't play it. The radio station got an earful from fans of the song and it was only then he began to play it again -- with a figurative gun to his head from the station manager, no doubt.
Rest in peace, Mr. Mardones.
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Keith Richards simply doesn't realise he died circa 1972.
We poke fun at Keith, but I still say the man can play. The Stones are all old geezers now and believe me, they are still at the top of their game.
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One thing I remember about Into the Night -- when it first came out, a local DJ trashed it Said the song was whiny and depressing. Wouldn't play it. The radio station got an earful from fans of the song and it was only then he began to play it again -- with a figurative gun to his head from the station manager, no doubt.
Rest in peace, Mr. Mardones.
I don't recognize the song. I must be of the wrong musical era or something. Not to my taste, but ......
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We poke fun at Keith, but I still say the man can play. The Stones are all old geezers now and believe me, they are still at the top of their game.
They should have called it a day and a career after Exile on Main Street. (The best album of their second era and their second best album behind Aftermath.) If they had, they'd have gone out in the same blaze of glory with which the Beatles went out with Abbey Road. You could pick ten random songs off any of their subsequent albums to make one passable Stones album, but that's about all.
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One of the oddest singles to become a hit, given the times, ever recorded.
I don't often follow such, but this time I hit the Billboard link @jmyrlefuller provided in his post, and it linked to this: Error 404 (Not Found)!!1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U3_UM8rcGe4#)
Worth watching, an insight into the man, and I'm glad I did.
RIP Mr. Mardones
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Comedy legend Carl Reiner is dead at 98
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/comedy-legend-carl-reiner-is-dead-at-98-2020-06-30?mod=home-page (https://www.marketwatch.com/story/comedy-legend-carl-reiner-is-dead-at-98-2020-06-30?mod=home-page)
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@Gefn
I can't believe Hollyweird let a lifetime leftie die at the tender age of 98,and not call it a "tragic Cona-Virus death".
The Big Boys and Girls on the left coast will be getting some angry telephone calls from DC today.
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Finding a conservative in Hollywood is a rarity. The few that are, are dealt with in a Whack-a-Mole fashion.
@catfish1957
The last two were SNL alum who got smacked down once they got their own shows and started writing their own lines. One,whose name I will no doubt remember 15 minutes from now,has his own hit comedy sitcom in primetime,and both he and the sitcom got canceled after he appeared on the BaBa WaWa gab fest called "The View". Haven't seen him since,and I THINK that was when they stopped broadcasting it live.
Another SNL alum that virtually disappeared from sight was Garret Morris. VERY talented guy that suddenly didn't seem to be able to get a job if he worked for free. I am NOT saying he is/was a right-winger conservative Republican,but he definitely didn't drink the leftist Kool-Ade.
No,it was NOT Chevy Chase. If THAT SOB ever had any talent,it had to have been blowing the producers so he could get to head up the show.
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They should have called it a day and a career after Exile on Main Street. (The best album of their second era and their second best album behind Aftermath.) If they had, they'd have gone out in the same blaze of glory with which the Beatles went out with Abbey Road. You could pick ten random songs off any of their subsequent albums to make one passable Stones album, but that's about all.
And that would pretty much be the "Some Girls" album.
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Yet Dick van Dyke (and Kieth Richards) live.
@skeeter
Keef doesn't count. He NEVER counts. He is the undead. He will outlive the solar system.
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I’d forgotten about Richie...
Inside the album jacket for Exile on Main St there’s a pic of Kieth with a IV in his arm running to a Jack Daniels bottle. I thought he was joking.
@skeeter
Nope. He was having lunch.
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Not as odd as you think---a fair number of R&B ballads were scoring hits even at the peak of the disco era.
@Eas
R&B may occasionally go out of style in favor of something trendy,but it will never die.
Don't believe me,put on something by Jackie Wilson or Etta James the next time the grandchildren are over,and watch the look on their faces.
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@catfish1957
The last two were SNL alum who got smacked down once they got their own shows and started writing their own lines. One,whose name I will no doubt remember 15 minutes from now,has his own hit comedy sitcom in primetime,and both he and the sitcom got canceled after he appeared on the BaBa WaWa gab fest called "The View". Haven't seen him since,and I THINK that was when they stopped broadcasting it live.
Another SNL alum that virtually disappeared from sight was Garret Morris. VERY talented guy that suddenly didn't seem to be able to get a job if he worked for free. I am NOT saying he is/was a right-winger conservative Republican,but he definitely didn't drink the leftist Kool-Ade.
No,it was NOT Chevy Chase. If THAT SOB ever had any talent,it had to have been blowing the producers so he could get to head up the show.
@sneakypete
I know we all have our own opinion of what is funny, but one of the funniest of my genneration is Kelsey Grammar.
His thin resume' right now is very telling of how Hollywood deals with conservatives.... even the more talented ones.
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@Eas
R&B may occasionally go out of style in favor of something trendy,but it will never die.
Don't believe me,put on something by Jackie Wilson or Etta James the next time the grandchildren are over,and watch the look on their faces.
@sneakypete
With me, you're preaching to the choir. wink777
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I know we all have our own opinion of what is funny, but one of the funniest of my genneration is Kelsey Grammar.
His thin resume' right now is very telling of how Hollywood deals with conservatives.... even the more talented ones.
@catfish1957
Anyone who can make the one spin-off comedy show (Frasier) that was better than the show that birthed it (Cheers) deserves honour, not hell.
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@catfish1957
The last two were SNL alum who got smacked down once they got their own shows and started writing their own lines. One,whose name I will no doubt remember 15 minutes from now,has his own hit comedy sitcom in primetime,and both he and the sitcom got canceled after he appeared on the BaBa WaWa gab fest called "The View". Haven't seen him since,and I THINK that was when they stopped broadcasting it live.
Another SNL alum that virtually disappeared from sight was Garret Morris. VERY talented guy that suddenly didn't seem to be able to get a job if he worked for free. I am NOT saying he is/was a right-winger conservative Republican,but he definitely didn't drink the leftist Kool-Ade.
No,it was NOT Chevy Chase. If THAT SOB ever had any talent,it had to have been blowing the producers so he could get to head up the show.
One of the best Garrett Morris skits was with Julian Bond on "Black Perspectives" when Julian talked about how lighter-skinned blacks were superior to darker-skinned blacks, and Garret is like, "Say what?"
Another good one was when he jumped on Mick Jagger for the song "Some Girls", where the lyrics were "Black Girls just want to [have sex] all night."
"Mr. Jagger, you have besmirched the character of Black Women, so I have just one question for you, Jaggs.........'Where are these black broads, man?' I mean like Where are they, baby? You got any phone numbers for me? Please", then he gets all serious again...'Thank you!'
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One of the best Garrett Morris skits was with Julian Bond on "Black Perspectives" when Julian talked about how lighter-skinned blacks were superior to darker-skinned blacks, and Garret is like, "Say what?"
Another good one was when he jumped on Mick Jagger for the song "Some Girls", where the lyrics were "Black Girls just want to [have sex] all night."
"Mr. Jagger, you have besmirched the character of Black Women, so I have just one question for you, Jaggs.........'Where are these black broads, man?' I mean like Where are they, baby? You got any phone numbers for me? Please", then he gets all serious again...'Thank you!'
@dfwgator
He always cracked me up with "updates for the deaf".
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Celebrated broadcaster Hugh Downs dies at 99
July 2, 2020 at 1:38 PM CDT - Updated July 2 at 1:52 PM
(Gray News) - Longtime television personality and newscaster Hugh Downs passed away Wednesday at the age of 99.
The New York Times and Washington Post both cite a statement from Downs’ family, saying he died at his home in Scottsdale, Arizona.
Downs’ career began in television’s infancy and included long running stints as hosts of “Today†and “20/20,†as well as more lighthearted programs such as game show “Concentration.â€
https://www.ksla.com/2020/07/02/celebrated-broadcaster-hugh-downs-dies/ (https://www.ksla.com/2020/07/02/celebrated-broadcaster-hugh-downs-dies/)
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SCOTTSDALE, Ariz. (3TV/CBS 5) – Emmy Award-winning broadcaster Hugh Downs has died at the age of 99, according to a statement from his family.
Surrounded by loved ones, he died at his Scottsdale home Wednesday evening. A spokeswoman for the family was clear that Downs did not have COVID-19.
Downs' broadcast career spanned more than 60 years, including work on "20/20," the "Today Show," "Concentration," and "Tonight Starring Jack Paar." ... More (https://www.azfamily.com/news/hugh-downs-died-at-the-age-of-99-in-scottsdale-on-wednesday-night/article_6b8dc93e-bc88-11ea-967c-8ff67322b534.html)
(https://bloximages.newyork1.vip.townnews.com/azfamily.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/0/78/07851528-bc8d-11ea-ae6a-c3bd8de75437/5efe1fbd038e1.image.jpg?resize=300%2C375)
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I really liked Hugh Downs. He gave many. many people so much pleasure and I hope he now rests with the Angels.
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I really liked Hugh Downs. He gave many. many people so much pleasure and I hope he now rests with the Angels.
@Cyber Liberty
I liked the guy, too.
When I was a kid and he hosted Concentration, in 1963 a certain baseball legend played the game and made it to the show's "Challenge of Champions" . . .
(Beware the wobbly video . . . )
Error 404 (Not Found)!!1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=INOHmDZzUz4#)
Error 404 (Not Found)!!1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KhpeRp5fQAY#)
Frankly, I'd still like to know what the hell involved 18,000+ crumbs and what the hell was a dropped gumdrop . . .
RIP.
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Hugh Downs was a pioneer and an institution. I had forgotten he did the announcing for the Tonight Show with Jack Paar as host. But I do remember Concentration. In the old days, there were tons of game shows on tv and Concentration was one of my favorites. Always seemed like the kind of guy you would want to live next door to or someone to have a beer with. Never heard a bad thing about him.
Rest in peace, Mr. Downs.
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Hugh Downs was a pioneer and an institution. I had forgotten he did the announcing for the Tonight Show with Jack Paar as host. But I do remember Concentration. In the old days, there were tons of game shows on tv and Concentration was one of my favorites. Always seemed like the kind of guy you would want to live next door to or someone to have a beer with. Never heard a bad thing about him.
Rest in peace, Mr. Downs.
@Applewood
Among other things, Downs hosted The Today Show from 1962-71. His other credits included announcing for television's first successful dope (er, soap) opera (Hawkins Falls) in 1950 (it was the first TV soap to run five years and, among other things, starred radio legend Bernadine Flynn [Vic & Sade]); and, before NBC first brought him to New York, the original Kukla, Fran, and Ollie children's show when the network picked it up from Chicago.
Hawkins Falls, NBC, 4 May 1953 (Hugh Downs announcing)
Error 404 (Not Found)!!1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kfPT-AO1C5k#)
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@EasyAce
Thanks. I don't remember Hawkins Falls, but soap operas were all over daytime tv when I was a kid. Back then, mothers like mine in my neighborhood were homemakers -- seldom worked outside the home -- so they had these dramas on tv from about 10 am till 4:30 pm -- half hour long, one right after the other. I would get home from school maybe 3 or 3:30, to see the last 2 or 3 sagas. They made me laugh because, invariably, one character would end up in the hospital and it would take six weeks to find out if he or she survived or not (probably depended on the outcome of contract negotiations). LOL
Now Kukla, Fran and Ollie -- I remember that show, but oddly, I don't remember Hugh Downs being on it. Hey, I was a little mite at the time. Today, I'm lucky if I remember my own name. LOL
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@EasyAce
Thanks. I don't remember Hawkins Falls, but soap operas were all over daytime tv when I was a kid. Back then, mothers like mine in my neighborhood were homemakers -- seldom worked outside the home -- so they had these dramas on tv from about 10 am till 4:30 pm -- half hour long, one right after the other. I would get home from school maybe 3 or 3:30, to see the last 2 or 3 sagas. They made me laugh because, invariably, one character would end up in the hospital and it would take six weeks to find out if he or she survived or not (probably depended on the outcome of contract negotiations). LOL
@Applewood
I can still remember my maternal grandmother (who babysat me when my mother needed to go out on errands) listening to the ancient radio soap Pepper Young's Family (it ran from 1932-1959; eventual Smuckers preserves pitchman and Lou Grant cast member Mason Adams played the title role from 1945 until the show expired) and watching As the World Turns while she had me until she went to work later in 1959. (My mother's younger brother had married, so she decided to go to work and became a bookkeeper until she retired in 1979.)
Now Kukla, Fran and Ollie -- I remember that show, but oddly, I don't remember Hugh Downs being on it. Hey, I was a little mite at the time. Today, I'm lucky if I remember my own name. LOL
I'd watch that show when I was a small (ha ha) kid in the Bronx, before going to school. For awhile, anyway. I was more looking for shows that showed Looney Tunes and Hanna-Barbera cartoons. (I never did like much of the Terrytoons, other than Deputy Dawg: they looked exactly the way I eventually learned they were: made on the absolute cheap.) And when I got home for lunch, there'd be Concentration! on the tube . . . (remember when you could call television "the tube?")
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I really liked Hugh Downs. He gave many. many people so much pleasure and I hope he now rests with the Angels.
99 is a good run. Rest In Peace, sir.
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Former Phillies pitcher Tyson Brummett dies in plane crash in Utah | NBC Sports Philadelphia
Former Phillies pitcher Tyson Brummett died Friday morning in a plane crash in Utah.
Brummett, 35, was piloting the small plane when it crashed in the Wasatch Mountains outside Salt Lake City, according to the Utah County Sheriff’s Office.
All four passengers died in the crash — Brummett, his 35-year-old friend Alex Ruegner, and Ruegner’s uncle and aunt, Douglas (62) and Elaine Blackhurst (60).
Brummett had a cup of coffee for the 2012 Phillies, making one appearance in Game 162. He was in the Phillies’ system from 2007-12, pitching 110 total innings at Triple A Lehigh Valley.
https://www.nbcsports.com/philadelphia/phillies/former-phillies-pitcher-tyson-brummett-dies-in-plane-crash-utah (https://www.nbcsports.com/philadelphia/phillies/former-phillies-pitcher-tyson-brummett-dies-in-plane-crash-utah)
@EasyAce
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Former Phillies pitcher Tyson Brummett dies in plane crash in Utah | NBC Sports Philadelphia
https://www.nbcsports.com/philadelphia/phillies/former-phillies-pitcher-tyson-brummett-dies-in-plane-crash-utah (https://www.nbcsports.com/philadelphia/phillies/former-phillies-pitcher-tyson-brummett-dies-in-plane-crash-utah)
@EasyAce
@Gefn
Tragic.
He crashed in the same state where a Chicago Cubs second baseman named Ken Hubbs was killed in the crash of his private plane in a snow storm in early 1964. The sad irony: Hubbs took up flying to overcome his fear of it.
RIP Tyler Brummett.
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Nick Cordero, Standout Actor in Broadway Musicals, Dies of COVID-19 Complications at 41
Nick Cordero, the charming Tony-nominated actor known for his work in Bullets Over Broadway, Waitress and A Bronx Tale the Musical, died Sunday after a grueling battle with the coronavirus, his wife announced. He was 41.
Since being diagnosed with what was thought to be pneumonia in late March, the Canadian actor spent weeks in intensive care at Cedars-Sinai Medical Center in Los Angeles, had his right leg amputated, lost more than 60 pounds and was hoping to receive a double-lung transplant.
Cordero had come to L.A. to star as Bourbon Room owner Dennis Dupree in an immersive adaptation of the long-running Broadway hit Rock of Ages in a new space on Hollywood Boulevard. He had played the role years ago in a national tour and on Broadway, and the new version of the musical opened in January.
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/nick-cordero-dead-bullets-broadway-waitress-actor-was-41-1301841 (https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/nick-cordero-dead-bullets-broadway-waitress-actor-was-41-1301841)
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Nick Cordero, Standout Actor in Broadway Musicals, Dies of COVID-19 Complications at 41
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/nick-cordero-dead-bullets-broadway-waitress-actor-was-41-1301841 (https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/nick-cordero-dead-bullets-broadway-waitress-actor-was-41-1301841)
I wasn’t familiar with this actor, but he truly seemed talented and gifted, and I know he suffered a lot in his final weeks and days. I hope he is finally at peace. Rest In Peace.
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I wasn’t familiar with this actor, but he truly seemed talented and gifted, and I know he suffered a lot in his final weeks and days. I hope he is finally at peace. Rest In Peace.
I'm not familiar with Mr. Cordero either, but I get a newsfeed from MSN on my laptop and it seemed almost every day there was a story about him and his fight with COVID -- mostly news from his wife. The poor man went through hell (and his wife and family too). Had a one-year-old son he won't see grow up. Terrible tragedy.
And there are still some who think COVID is no worse than a cold.
Rest in peace, Mr. Cordero and may your wife and family find comfort.
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I'm not familiar with Mr. Cordero either, but I get a newsfeed from MSN on my laptop and it seemed almost every day there was a story about him and his fight with COVID -- mostly news from his wife. The poor man went through hell (and his wife and family too). Had a one-year-old son he won't see grow up. Terrible tragedy.
And there are still some who think COVID is no worse than a cold.
Rest in peace, Mr. Cordero and may your wife and family find comfort.
@Applewood
It ISN'T unless you have other serious underlying health issues like AIDS,cancer,kidney disease,etc,etc,etc.
Within the last two days there was a report of another "tragic covid-related death". It was a 96 year old WW-2 vet living in a nursing home that had heart trouble,blood pressure problems,etc,etc,etc.
Think about that one for a minute. Here was a veteran,struck down in the prime of his life by this deadly disease the left and the RINO's need as much as they need oxygen to have any hope of staying in power.
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@Applewood
It ISN'T unless you have other serious underlying health issues like AIDS,cancer,kidney disease,etc,etc,etc.
Within the last two days there was a report of another "tragic covid-related death". It was a 96 year old WW-2 vet living in a nursing home that had heart trouble,blood pressure problems,etc,etc,etc.
Think about that one for a minute. Here was a veteran,struck down in the prime of his life by this deadly disease the left and the RINO's need as much as they need oxygen to have any hope of staying in power.
@sneakypete
Geez, man, did you read the obituary? Mr. Cordero was 41 and a professional Broadway dancer. You can't be a successful dancer if you have underlying health issues, so I assume Mr. Cordero was in good health till COVID got him.
And that was my point -- while most of the deaths from this virus are coming from older and/or chronically ill people, the virus can kill anyone at any age. Maybe for some who test positive, the virus produces no or mild symptoms. But for many at any age and regardless of health, the virus can be deadly. It is not the common cold.
And that's all I'm going to say. This thread is meant to announce, honor and remember the big names who have passed. It's not for political arguments. Now I'm sorry I brought up how deadly COVID is, but I will say no more about it. The discussion is closed.
BTW -- who wizzed in your Wheaties this morning? You seem to be especially miserable today -- more so than usual.
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Ennio Morricone, Prolific Italian Composer for the Movies, Dies at 91 (https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/ennio-morricone-dead-prolific-italian-composer-was-91-858358?utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter)
The Hollywood Reporter
Ennio Morricone, the Oscar winner whose haunting, inventive scores expertly accentuated the simmering, dialogue-free tension of the spaghetti Westerns directed by Sergio Leone, has died. He was 91.
The Italian composer, who scored more than 500 films — seven for his countryman Leone after they had met as kids in elementary school — died in Rome following complications from a fall last week in which he broke his femur.
A native and lifelong resident of Rome whose first instrument was the trumpet, Morricone won his Oscar for his work on Quentin Tarantino’s The Hateful Eight (2015) and also was nominated for his original scores for Terrence Malick’s Days of Heaven (1978), Roland Joffe’s The Mission (1986), Brian De Palma’s The Untouchables (1987), Barry Levinson’s Bugsy (1991) and Giuseppe Tornatore’s Malena (2000) . . .
And, he wrote arguably the greatest Western film theme of them all . . .
Error 404 (Not Found)!!1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHfbzoq-grE#)
RIP Signor Morricone.
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And that's ll I'm going to say. This thread is meant to announce, honor and remember the big names who have passed. It's not for political arguments. Now I'm sorry I brought up how deadly COVID is, but I will say no more about it. The discussion is closed.
Statistically, it's not deadly, and is becoming less deadly as time goes on, on average, approaching a less than 1% mortality, and that will be halved in another month. By far and away, deaths from covid are statistically within the margin of error, even with inflated rates.
If you get the corona virus, unless you have underlying illnesses, you are likely going to survive, and may not even know you contracted it. Even where the illness is dire, in elderly with underlying factors, the likelihood is that you will still survive, by a large margin.
Your ire is misplaced. On the personal level, this bug can be a terrible tragedy, and there is no one I know that would deny it. But statistics are about the aggregate, and without the emotional involvement. And statistically, this bug is a little worse than the flu.
And I might add, I can make the argument that most of its mortality was caused by its lingering, and its lingering, caused by the lock-down. Left to it's own devices, letting herd immunity occur in its natural course, the death toll would have been less.
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And that's all I'm going to say. This thread is meant to announce, honor and remember the big names who have passed. It's not for political arguments. Now I'm sorry I brought up how deadly COVID is, but I will say no more about it. The discussion is closed.
Thank you. It's true, this isn't thread to discuss the relative disaster of The Rona.
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@EasyAce
The music from GBU was just so cool. But I could never figure out what the men were saying. Don't walk to Waco? Or maybe it was in Italian. Or "frontier gibberish" as in Blazing Saddles. LOL
Rest in peace, Mr. Morricone.
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Charlie Daniels passes away after suffering stroke
NASHVILLE, Tenn. (WZTV) — Country music and southern rock legend Charlie Daniels has passed away after suffering a stroke, his representatives announced Monday.
The Grand Ole Opry member and Country Music Hall of Famer was 83.
https://fox17.com/news/local/charlie-daniels-passes-away-after-suffering-stroke
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Charlie Daniels passes away after suffering stroke
https://fox17.com/news/local/charlie-daniels-passes-away-after-suffering-stroke
The Devil Went Down to Georgia was a great song, RIP Mr. Daniels.
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Charlie Daniels passes away after suffering stroke
https://fox17.com/news/local/charlie-daniels-passes-away-after-suffering-stroke
Aw crap.
RIP Charlie.
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https://www.tennessean.com/story/entertainment/music/2020/07/06/charlie-daniels-country-music-dies/5384087002/ (https://www.tennessean.com/story/entertainment/music/2020/07/06/charlie-daniels-country-music-dies/5384087002/)
Country Music Hall of Fame member Charlie Daniels dies at 83
Charlie Daniels, a member of the Country Music Hall of Fame best known for "The Devil Went Down to Georgia," died Monday morning after suffering a hemorrhagic stroke. He was 83.
Daniels' death was confirmed by his publicist, Don Murry Grubbs. He is survived by his wife, Hazel, and son Charlie Daniels, Jr.
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Oh geez. Charlie Daniels gone. A real country music legend.
Rest in peace, Mr. Daniels.
Error 404 (Not Found)!!1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBjPAqmnvGA#)
8888crybaby
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Yep. We’re loosing a lot of good peeps this year. 888cryingkitty
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Charlie was a great patriot, loud and proud to the end, and he made some great music.
He is pretty much a fixture in rural life. Even the young kids know him around here.
Well played sir, well played.
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RIP Mr. Daniels, such tremendous talent!
"Let Freedom Ring" !!! :patriot:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmozdV_IPt8 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmozdV_IPt8#)
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And a very rock solid conserative who had no problem telling it like it was. Sad day for us.
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He tweeted every day, "Benghazi ain't going away!" RIP, Charlie. :patriot:
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Ennio Morricone, Prolific Italian Composer for the Movies, Dies at 91 (https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/ennio-morricone-dead-prolific-italian-composer-was-91-858358?utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter)
The Hollywood Reporter
And, he wrote arguably the greatest Western film theme of them all . . .
Error 404 (Not Found)!!1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHfbzoq-grE#)
RIP Signor Morricone.
Morricone's themes for the first two spaghetti westerns AFOD and AFDM were also excellent. I play them in succession with TGTBATU. In TGTBATU Morricone composed two outstanding tunes the eponymous title tune and Ecstasy Of Gold.
I don't think he's equaled as far as western pieces.
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Morricone's themes for the first two spaghetti westerns AFOD and AFDM were also excellent. I play them in succession with TGTBATU. In TGTBATU Morricone composed two outstanding tunes the eponymous title tune and Ecstasy Of Gold.
I don't he's equaled as far as western pieces.
@goatprairie
I've only ever heard one as good . . . (it was once used as the theme for James Stewart's old-time radio Western, The Six Shooter . . .)
Error 404 (Not Found)!!1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6UdH0esbZg#)
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@sneakypete
Geez, man, did you read the obituary? Mr. Cordero was 41 and a professional Broadway dancer. You can't be a successful dancer if you have underlying health issues, so I assume Mr. Cordero was in good health till COVID got him.
@Applewood
Ever heard of a disease called "Aids"? Broadway dancers,who,as a group,are in as close to perfect physical condition as professional athletes, have been known to come down with Aids.
Not to mention more pedestrian diseases like cancer,heart disease,etc,etc,etc. No matter how healthy and in shape you might be,you can get struck down by genetics or accidental exposure. No one is immune from such things.
Which begs the question,WTF does a 41 year old Broadway dancer have in common with the 96 year old bedridden WW-2 vet I wrote about?
And that was my point -- while most of the deaths from this virus are coming from older and/or chronically ill people, the virus can kill anyone at any age.
ONLY if they have other,underlying diseases that have already weakened their systems.
Maybe for some who test positive, the virus produces no or mild symptoms.
You have a strange way of spelling the word "most".
But for many at any age and regardless of health, the virus can be deadly.
Ok,fair enough. Give me an actual quote of the number of Americans who died from the virus ALONE,and had NO OTHER HEALTH ISSUES.
It is not the common cold.
No,it's a version of the common flu.
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Charlie Daniels passes away after suffering stroke
https://fox17.com/news/local/charlie-daniels-passes-away-after-suffering-stroke
@Gefn
At 83,he had a good,long run.
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Charlie Daniels passes away after suffering stroke
https://fox17.com/news/local/charlie-daniels-passes-away-after-suffering-stroke
Listening to a bunch of his music right now.
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At 83,he had a good,long run.
Every day you make it over 80 years old is a gift. Anyone over that has to understand that they can go at any point—especially someone like Daniels who had a history of strokes. The fact that he didn't suffer a slow decline is a mercy, though I hope he had his affairs in order when he died.
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Every day you make it over 80 years old is a gift. Anyone over that has to understand that they can go at any point—especially someone like Daniels who had a history of strokes. The fact that he didn't suffer a slow decline is a mercy, though I hope he had his affairs in order when he died.
@jmyrlefuller
Nobody ever accused him of being stupid or being a fool. Nor was he known to be drunk,druggie,or gambler. I would bet what little I have he left his family in very good shape,financially.
I wish the same could be said about all of us.
Rest in peace,Mr.Daniels.
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Ennio Morricone, Prolific Italian Composer for the Movies, Dies at 91 (https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/ennio-morricone-dead-prolific-italian-composer-was-91-858358?utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter)
The Hollywood Reporter
And, he wrote arguably the greatest Western film theme of them all . . .
Error 404 (Not Found)!!1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHfbzoq-grE#)
RIP Signor Morricone.
Another wonderful, lighter theme from him:
Error 404 (Not Found)!!1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGZDKuDl3jc#)
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One of Charlie's last posts on Twitter on the Fourth of July (which I'm glad he got to see)
Charlie Daniels
@CharlieDaniels
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Jul 4
We’re sitting on the upstairs porch looking at the northern horizon and watching America light up, fireworks going off all over the place.
You may tear down statues and burn buildings but you can’t kill the spirit of patriots and when they’ve had enough this madness will end.
Giving them hell to the very end.
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One of Charlie's last posts on Twitter on the Fourth of July (which I'm glad he got to see)
Giving them hell to the very end.
Yep, and will be prophetic.
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RE Charlie Daniels comment:
"You may tear down statues and burn buildings but you can’t kill the spirit of patriots and when they’ve had enough this madness will end."
Mr. Daniels was a clear thinker right up to his last day.
(compare that to ol' white Joe Biden...)
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Mary Kay Letourneau
Child molester dies at 58
Letourneau (born Mary Kay Schmitz) was a black sheep in a family whose other members were close with the George Bush family, with her brothers John and Joe Schmitz serving in George H.W. Bush and George W. Bush administrations, respectively. She chose the path of an elementary school teacher.
In 1996, the 34-year-old Letourneau began a sexual relationship with Vili Fualaau, a 12-year-old in her sixth grade class, who managed to impregnate her. She was sentenced to seven years in prison but took a plea bargain reducing that to six months in exchange for not seeing Fualaau again. She violated that agreement and was arrested again, forced to serve the full seven-year sentence.
After release, Letourneau married Fualaau, and it was not until their divorce in 2019 that he acknowledged that he had been manipulated. They ultimately had two children together.
Letourneau died of colon cancer.
Obituary from the New York Post (https://nypost.com/2020/07/07/mary-kay-letourneau-dead-of-cancer-at-58/)
Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Kay_Letourneau)
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Not much one could say about Miss Letourneau. As a teacher, she could have done great things, become an inspiration for good to her students. Instead, she was a pedophile who preyed on a young boy. Worst thing is, as far as I know, she never publicly expressed any remorse for what she did to that kid. I won't shed a tear over her passing. I am saddened though by the damage done to her victim and, I expect, to the two children they had together.
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Not much one could say about Miss Letourneau. As a teacher, she could have done great things, become an inspiration for good to her students. Instead, she was a pedophile who preyed on a young boy. Worst thing is, as far as I know, she never publicly expressed any remorse for what she did to that kid. I won't shed a tear over her passing. I am saddened though by the damage done to her victim and, I expect, to the two children they had together.
I don't know how much harm was done to the kid. They got married and had children.
I certainly don't condone teachers, male or female, messing around with their students.
However, I don't think I'm going out on a limb that at a certain age, boys don't feel like they're being abused sexually by an attractive female teacher. They probably brag about it to their friends.
But, as I've stated, I think teachers should keep their mitts off their charges.
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I don't know how much harm was done to the kid. They got married and had children.
I certainly don't condone teachers, male or female, messing around with their students.
However, I don't think I'm going out on a limb that at a certain age, boys don't feel like they're being abused sexually by an attractive female teacher. They probably brag about it to their friends.
But, as I've stated, I think teachers should keep their mitts off their charges.
He was 12 at the time the abuse started. Just a kid. At that age, I think kids are fragile, they have an array of confusing emotions they don't know how to deal with, plus raging hormones. He was an easy prey for this woman. And he said much later when they were divorced, that he felt he was manipulated by her. Of course, in a divorce, people say all sorts of things, but I do believe he was damaged by this woman.
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He was 12 at the time the abuse started. Just a kid. At that age, I think kids are fragile, they have an array of confusing emotions they don't know how to deal with, plus raging hormones. He was an easy prey for this woman. And he said much later when they were divorced, that he felt he was manipulated by her. Of course, in a divorce, people say all sorts of things, but I do believe he was damaged by this woman.
I agree... it was wrong for the teacher. The kid was too young. At that age I had no idea what was going on as far as sex. And I didn't have teachers who looked like Tourneau. Mostly a lot of old nuns.
But I will say in a few years from twelve most of the boys I hung out with were aware of girls and things they'd like to do with them.
Twelve is too young, but when boys get to be thirteen, many of them are very curious...and more than eager to start things.
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Twelve is too young, but when boys get to be thirteen, many of them are very curious...and more than eager to start things.
Before I had my driver's license at 14 I had already been blooded (likely deer and elk both), drunk, stoned, and laid. I was also working long days in the summer and had a fair income.
It was too soon, and I regret it. But growing up hard has it's virtues too. Beats the hell outta kids nowadays that won't touch a lick of responsibility till they get out of college.
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Charlie Daniels passes away after suffering stroke
https://fox17.com/news/local/charlie-daniels-passes-away-after-suffering-stroke
Say hello to Bob Wills for us..........
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Say hello to Bob Wills for us..........
CD was a proud southerner, who was proud of that heritage. A stroke? Surprised it hasn't happened to me too. Watching my country disintergreate into an SJW destruction fest is taking its toll on all us.
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Before I had my driver's license at 14 I had already been blooded (likely deer and elk both), drunk, stoned, and laid. I was also working long days in the summer and had a fair income.
It was too soon, and I regret it. But growing up hard has it's virtues too. Beats the hell outta kids nowadays that won't touch a lick of responsibility till they get out of college.
@roamer_1
I spent the summer I was 13 working as a deckhand on a shrimp boat,working a man's job and getting a man's pay.
Had PLENTY of money every time the hold was full and we went to port to unload and sell,and I went drinking in the same places the other deck hands went drinking.
You figure it out.
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@roamer_1
I spent the summer I was 13 working as a deckhand on a shrimp boat,working a man's job and getting a man's pay.
Had PLENTY of money every time the hold was full and we went to port to unload and sell,and I went drinking in the same places the other deck hands went drinking.
You figure it out.
@sneakypete
I don't have to figger Sneaks. I know the answer. :cool:
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Kelly Preston
Actress, model and wife of John Travolta dies at 57
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/0a/Kelly_Preston_Navy_2005_%28cropped%29.jpg)
Preston, who had a modest acting career consisting mostly of supporting roles in middling films (she was a four-time Golden Raspberry Award nominee, winning once for her work in Battlefield Earth), was perhaps better known as the longtime wife of John Travolta, with whom she had three children.
Preston died July 12 following a two-year bout with breast cancer.
Obituary from Entertainment Tonight (https://www.etonline.com/kelly-preston-actress-and-wife-of-john-travolta-dead-at-57-149535)
Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kelly_Preston)
IMDB (https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000593/)
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Jay Severin
Talk radio personality dies at 69
James "Jay" Severino had some brief stints in national syndication and as a guest host for national shows but was best known for his work in Boston, Massachusetts. He died July 10 of a stroke.
Obituary from All Access Music Group (https://www.allaccess.com/net-news/archive/story/198093/longtime-boston-talk-host-jay-severin-dies-at-69)
Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jay_Severin)
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Kelly Preston
Actress, model and wife of John Travolta dies at 57
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/0a/Kelly_Preston_Navy_2005_%28cropped%29.jpg)
Preston, who had a modest acting career consisting mostly of supporting roles in middling films (she was a four-time Golden Raspberry Award nominee, winning once for her work in Battlefield Earth), was perhaps better known as the longtime wife of John Travolta, with whom she had three children.
Preston died July 12 following a two-year bout with breast cancer.
Obituary from Entertainment Tonight (https://www.etonline.com/kelly-preston-actress-and-wife-of-john-travolta-dead-at-57-149535)
Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kelly_Preston)
IMDB (https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000593/)
Cancer is a miserable way to go. I hope she’s at peace now, with het son who died a few years back.
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Cancer is a miserable way to go. I hope she’s at peace now, with het son who died a few years back.
I agree, on both counts.
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Benjamin Keough, Elvis Presley's grandson, dead at 27
July 12 (UPI) -- Singer and actor Benjamin Keough -- son of musicians Danny Keough and Lisa Marie Presley and grandson of rock 'n' roll icon Elvis Presley -- has died at age 27.
Keough's sister is The Lodge actress Riley Keough.
TMZ reported he died from an apparent, self-inflicted gunshot wound Sunday in Calabasas, Calif.
"Lisa Marie is completely heartbroken, inconsolable and beyond devastated but trying to stay strong for her 11-year-old twins and her oldest daughter, Riley," Presley's representative told ETOnline. "She adored that boy. He was the love of her life."
https://www.upi.com/Entertainment_News/2020/07/12/Benjamin-Keough-Elvis-Presleys-grandson-dead-at-27/3721594593803/ (https://www.upi.com/Entertainment_News/2020/07/12/Benjamin-Keough-Elvis-Presleys-grandson-dead-at-27/3721594593803/)
Suicide isn’t painless. RIP
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July 13, 2020 / 4:09 AM / Updated 4 hours ago
Zindzi Mandela, daughter of Nelson Mandela, has died - ANC spokesman
JOHANNESBURG (Reuters) - Zindzi Mandela, daughter of former South African president and liberation hero Nelson Mandela, has died, the spokesman of the ruling African National Congress (ANC) said on Monday.
Zindzi Mandela, whose mother was anti-apartheid activist Winnie Madikizela-Mandela, rose to international prominence when she read out Nelson Mandela’s rejection of then-president P.W. Botha’s offer for freedom in 1985.
State broadcaster SABC said the 59-year-old, who was serving as South Africa’s ambassador to Denmark, died in a hospital in Johannesburg. It did not say why she had died. ... Reuters (https://af.reuters.com/article/topNews/idAFKCN24E0PF-OZATP)
(https://img-s-msn-com.akamaized.net/tenant/amp/entityid/BB16FtiV.img?h=450&w=799&m=6&q=60&o=f&l=f&x=541&y=233)
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It went in threes overnight didn’t it. Rip miss Mandela
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Kelly Preston
Actress, model and wife of John Travolta dies at 57
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/0a/Kelly_Preston_Navy_2005_%28cropped%29.jpg)
Preston, who had a modest acting career consisting mostly of supporting roles in middling films (she was a four-time Golden Raspberry Award nominee, winning once for her work in Battlefield Earth), was perhaps better known as the longtime wife of John Travolta, with whom she had three children.
Preston died July 12 following a two-year bout with breast cancer.
Obituary from Entertainment Tonight (https://www.etonline.com/kelly-preston-actress-and-wife-of-john-travolta-dead-at-57-149535)
Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kelly_Preston)
IMDB (https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000593/)
@jmyrlefuller
She was also known for living a clean,scandal-free life as a respectable wife and mother. Virtually unheard of in the professional circles where she circulated.
This is,IMHO,worthy of note as well as praise.
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Kelly Preston
Actress, model and wife of John Travolta dies at 57
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/0a/Kelly_Preston_Navy_2005_%28cropped%29.jpg)
Wow, sorry to hear this. I always had a huge crush on her.
(https://www.kn-online.de/var/storage/images/kn/in-ausland/panorama/kelly-preston-verwoehnt-ihren-sohn/20538924-1-ger-DE/Kelly-Preston-verwoehnt-ihren-Sohn_big_teaser_article.jpg)
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Grant Imahara
Engineer best known for his work on Mythbusters dies at 49
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0a/Grant_Imahara_by_Gage_Skidmore.jpg/176px-Grant_Imahara_by_Gage_Skidmore.jpg)
In college, Imahara had two passions and had difficulty deciding between them: electrical engineering and show business. He got his degree in the former, becoming a skilled robot maker, but found work in the latter almost immediately, landing at Industrial Light & Magic, the famed special effects company.
He made his television debut as a contestant on the original BattleBots. In 2005, he joined the "Build Team" on MythBusters. When the Build Team was summarily cut from the show nine years later, he and his two partners formed the White Rabbit Project for Netflix. He also was responsible for building "Geoff Peterson," the robot sidekick on The Late Late Show with Craig Ferguson.
Imahara died July 13 of an aneurysm.
Obituary from the Hollywood Reporter (https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/grant-imahara-dead-mythbusters-host-was-49-1303101)
Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grant_Imahara)
IMDB (https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0408017/)
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I liked Grant in Mythbusters, and never watched a Myth Busters since he got cut.
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Morris Cerullo
Televangelist and media mogul dies at 88
Cerullo, a Jewish convert to Christianity, is best known for purchasing the assets of Jim Bakker's PTL ministry out of bankruptcy in 1990. Included in the assets were the property of Heritage USA, a theme park that never reopened under Cerullo and was repurposed as the residential Regent Park; and INSP, the Inspiration Network, which under Cerullo has been transitioned from a televangelism network to a family entertainment service.
Cerullo died July 11 of pneumonia.
Obituary from The Christian Post (https://www.christianpost.com/news/international-evangelist-morris-cerullo-dies-at-88.html)
Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morris_Cerullo)
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Rep. John Lewis, lion of the civil rights movement, dies at 80
Rep. John Lewis, the sharecroppers' son who became a giant of the civil rights movement, died Friday after a monthslong battle with cancer, his family said. He was 80.
The longtime Georgia congressman, an advocate of nonviolent protest who had his skull fractured by Alabama state troopers on the Edmund Pettus Bridge in Selma, was the last surviving speaker from 1963's March on Washington.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/rep-john-lewis-lion-civil-rights-movement-dies-80-n1109176 (https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/rep-john-lewis-lion-civil-rights-movement-dies-80-n1109176)
He died of pancreatic cancer. What a miserable death, I hope he’s at peace now,
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Another civil rights leader died.
Rev. C.T. Vivian, key civil rights leader, has died at 95
By DESIREE SEALS and MICHAEL WARREN
yesterday
ATLANTA (AP) — The Rev. C.T. Vivian, an early and key adviser to the Rev. Martin Luther King Jr. who organized pivotal civil rights campaigns and spent decades advocating for justice and equality, died Friday at the age of 95.
Vivian began staging sit-ins against segregation in Peoria, Illinois, in the 1940s — a dozen years before lunch-counter protests by college students made national news. He met King soon after the budding civil rights leader’s leadership of the 1955 Montgomery bus boycott, and helped translate ideas into action by organizing the Freedom Rides that forced federal intervention across the South. ...
Associated Press (https://apnews.com/ca526b5b52c5769a65678592a1443f21)
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Two civil rights leaders in 48 hours. It makes you think. RIP.
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Two civil rights leaders in 48 hours. It makes you think. RIP.
About what? @Gefn
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Two civil rights leaders in 48 hours. It makes you think. RIP.
There are such things as coincidences. Most of the leaders of the movement are now in their 80s and 90s. Even Malcolm X and MLK would have likely died by now had they not been shot.
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The old time civil rights leaders advocated truly peaceful protests to achieve their goals. I don't know that too many of them would have been supportive of the BS going on today -- the riots, burning, looting.
Rest in peace, Mr. Lewis and Rev. Vivian.
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Rep. John Lewis, lion of the civil rights movement, dies at 80
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/rep-john-lewis-lion-civil-rights-movement-dies-80-n1109176 (https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/rep-john-lewis-lion-civil-rights-movement-dies-80-n1109176)
He died of pancreatic cancer. What a miserable death, I hope he’s at peace now,
Same here, RIP.
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Then old time civil rights leaders advocated truly peaceful protests to achieve their goals. I don't know that too many of them would have been supportive of the BS going on today -- the riots, burning, looting.
@Applewood
Most would not have supported that.
RIP John Lewis and Rev. C.T. Vivian.
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Rep. John Lewis, lion of the civil rights movement, dies at 80
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/rep-john-lewis-lion-civil-rights-movement-dies-80-n1109176 (https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/rep-john-lewis-lion-civil-rights-movement-dies-80-n1109176)
He died of pancreatic cancer. What a miserable death, I hope he’s at peace now,
This John Lewis?
“Read the Republican contract....They’re coming for our children. They’re coming for the poor. They’re coming for the sick, the elderly and the disabled.â€
Forgive me, if I don't shed any tears.
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This John Lewis?
“Read the Republican contract....They’re coming for our children. They’re coming for the poor. They’re coming for the sick, the elderly and the disabled.â€
Forgive me, if I don't shed any tears.
The mourning here is far more for what he did in the civil rights movement than what he did in his later life as a Congressman. It's possible to separate the two and mourn the civil rights figure without concurrently giving his Congressional career a fully free pass, just as it was possible to separate John McCain's military career and mourn the courageous Navy pilot and war prisoner without concurrently giving his Senate career and presidential campaigns a fully free pass.
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This John Lewis?
“Read the Republican contract....They’re coming for our children. They’re coming for the poor. They’re coming for the sick, the elderly and the disabled.â€
Forgive me, if I don't shed any tears.
\And that's your right. But as @EasyAce pointed out, he and those old timers in the civil rights movement did good -- certainly better than the anarchists and terrorists out there now. And as for Lewis' political career -- yes, he was a Democrat and what he said was reflective of the Democrat meme of the time and which still is being preached today -- that Republicans don't care about black people, the poor, the elderly and so on. Remember the campaign ads of Republicans pushing Grandma in her wheelchair off the cliff? Smart voters don't buy that BS, but it's been used effectively by the Democrats for years. Sadly though, Republicans, on the other hand, do little to counter it.
Anyway, I choose to forget about the man's politics and remember his struggle with Dr. King and so many others. I figure someone else with more knowledge about Mr. Lewis' life and with greater authority than mine will make the judgment. It's not up to me now.
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I have kicked a few of the dead. This man did not qualify for that treatment because of his poor choice of words and low effectiveness. If you were talking about FDR, or Wilson that would be another matter.
I wish Lewis and his family peace after years of constant war.
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I had a lot of respect for Lewis up until the point where he lied about Tea Party members. It went downhill from there. While I still admire his earlier accomplishments, he has done a huge disservice over the last 30 years by refusing to hand over the legacy to the next generations. And because of the egos of these so-called icons, today's generations have zero connection with the Civil Rights legacy other than the color of their skin.
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Rep. John Lewis, lion of the civil rights movement, dies at 80
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/rep-john-lewis-lion-civil-rights-movement-dies-80-n1109176 (https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/rep-john-lewis-lion-civil-rights-movement-dies-80-n1109176)
He died of pancreatic cancer. What a miserable death, I hope he’s at peace now,
@Gefn
He was a lucky man if he only suffered a couple of months. Most/lots of people suffer with cancer for years before it takes them.
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This John Lewis?
“Read the Republican contract....They’re coming for our children. They’re coming for the poor. They’re coming for the sick, the elderly and the disabled.â€
Forgive me, if I don't shed any tears.
@dfwgator
I do get your point,but in MY opinion,the man was just stupid,not evil. It's no sin to be stupid.
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From Erick Erickson, The Resurgent, in an e-mail:
John Lewis did not stop his partisanship from allowing him to have friendships with those with whom he had disagreements. He worked behind the scenes with Republicans to do what he could to help Georgia. He cultivated friendships with conservative members of congress with whom he could find no agreement on politics.
Contrast Lewis, a partisan Democrat who could be a bomb thrower against Republicans, with the fickle children running the New York Times now. The very idea of friendship with political opponents is anathema to them. Lewis would have published Tom Cotton’s op-ed and condemned it with his own op-ed next to it.
He was a complex man whose on-camera appearances were deeply partisan for his side and whose off-camera work was congenial, bipartisan, and kind.
Nowadays people would call that being two-faced. People seem to think if you’re a partisan bomb-thrower in a radio ad or on television, that’s who you should be in person. But people and relationships are more complex, politics is weird, and John Lewis was a giant who earned his street cred getting the crap knocked out of him by white supremacists in the streets of the South when all he wanted was the right to sit in a restaurant.
John Lewis and I agreed on little in politics. I only met the man once, in passing, on a flight from Washington back to Atlanta. We shared a laugh about some political nonsense going on at the time. That was the only time we ever spoke to one another. But we spoke to one another and found a way to share a laugh.
Not enough people do that with their political opponents these days. We presume disagreement means the other side wants to destroy the country when sometimes it is just a disagreement.
That tells you something right there.
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From Erick Erickson, The Resurgent, in an e-mail:
John Lewis did not stop his partisanship from allowing him to have friendships with those with whom he had disagreements. He worked behind the scenes with Republicans to do what he could to help Georgia. He cultivated friendships with conservative members of congress with whom he could find no agreement on politics.
Contrast Lewis, a partisan Democrat who could be a bomb thrower against Republicans, with the fickle children running the New York Times now. The very idea of friendship with political opponents is anathema to them. Lewis would have published Tom Cotton’s op-ed and condemned it with his own op-ed next to it.
He was a complex man whose on-camera appearances were deeply partisan for his side and whose off-camera work was congenial, bipartisan, and kind.
Nowadays people would call that being two-faced. People seem to think if you’re a partisan bomb-thrower in a radio ad or on television, that’s who you should be in person. But people and relationships are more complex, politics is weird, and John Lewis was a giant who earned his street cred getting the crap knocked out of him by white supremacists in the streets of the South when all he wanted was the right to sit in a restaurant.
John Lewis and I agreed on little in politics. I only met the man once, in passing, on a flight from Washington back to Atlanta. We shared a laugh about some political nonsense going on at the time. That was the only time we ever spoke to one another. But we spoke to one another and found a way to share a laugh.
Not enough people do that with their political opponents these days. We presume disagreement means the other side wants to destroy the country when sometimes it is just a disagreement.
That tells you something right there.
Amen, not unlike the relationship between Scalia and Ruth Bader Ginsburg. I have had several good friends that were on the complete opposite end of the political/ religious spectrum. It is possible to disagree with out being disagreeable.
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Amen, not unlike the relationship between Scalia and Ruth Bader Ginsburg. I have had several good friends that were on the complete opposite end of the political/ religious spectrum. It is possible to disagree with out being disagreeable.
Right. It's fairly simple. Keep the disagreement about the issue, not about the person. I knew a couple of liberals I'd engage in discussions about issues, and we'd sit and drink coffee the whole time. It wasn't about them, but the issues.
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Right. It's fairly simple. Keep the disagreement about the issue, not about the person. I knew a couple of liberals I'd engage in discussions about issues, and we'd sit and drink coffee the whole time. It wasn't about them, but the issues.
For me personally, there is a limit to that. For example, until last year I had never UnFriended anyone on FB. I figured that if any Prog FB Friend REALLY could not stand my very occasional political-oriented posts they could UnFriend me. But then two FB Friends who know me better thought it a cool idea to insinuate that I'm a racist. So I UnFriended them.
Lewis was complex. He was significant in the Civil Rights Movement, which helped shove the Feds to do what they should have done decades earlier. OTOH, he was a prominent front-line race-baiter-for-political-gain in the last 2 or 3 decades of his life. He would have been out of my life for doing that were he a friend. There is no excusing slander of that magnitude.
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@dfwgator
I do get your point,but in MY opinion,the man was just stupid,not evil. It's no sin to be stupid.
John Lewis was the civil rights movement in microcosm, which started out from the moral high ground and as it accomplished its objectives slowly became corrupt and began existing for its own benefit.
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John Lewis was the civil rights movement in microcosm, which started out from the moral high ground and as it accomplished its objectives slowly became corrupt and began existing for its own benefit.
The old timers were admirable for the sacrifices they made. Then the two extortionists, Al and Jessie came along. Now we have terrorists destroying our cities and businesses. What was once a profile in courage is now a criminal enterprise.
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John Lewis was the civil rights movement in microcosm, which started out from the moral high ground and as it accomplished its objectives slowly became corrupt and began existing for its own benefit.
100% agree. And if the events of the past few months wouldn't have happened, I 'd probably be more gracious, and positive sounding in my comments. Then add his one of his last quote during the BLM rioting... "Give Until you can't Give Anymore".
That's how I'll remember the guy. You know.... Last Impressions are often the most lasting.
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John Lewis was the civil rights movement in microcosm, which started out from the moral high ground and as it accomplished its objectives slowly became corrupt and began existing for its own benefit.
@skeeter :yowsa: Well said!
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We're getting off the track here, folks. This thread is for obits, not for wideranging discussions of the failings of other individuals. Start another thread if you want to debate the merits of MLK, Jr., and his associates.
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In any event, this thread was meant to honor and remember the dead -- in this case, John Lewis - not to argue over what amounts to unproven conspiracy theories about Dr. King. Honor Mr. Lewis or don't honor him. I don't care. But let's respect @jmyrlefuller who runs this thread and get it back on track.
I appreciate the sentiment, though I am a mere caretaker.
But yes, Lewis's political motivations aside, let's keep discussions at hand to the deceased. I don't mind going off-track a little bit, but try not to totally derail. :beer:
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We're getting off the track here, folks. This thread is for obits, not for wideranging discussions of the failings of other individuals. Start another thread if you want to debate the merits of MLK, Jr., and his associates.
I split the whole page of comments about MLK into a new thread to fight on. "MLK, Good Guy or Bad?"
http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,408795.0.html (http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,408795.0.html)
MLK died in 1968, and this thread is for current Obits. Any further comments about MLK will be simply deleted. TIA
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Thank you @Cyber Liberty
And @jmyrlefuller :
:beer:
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Thank you @Cyber Liberty
And @jmyrlefuller :
:beer:
Most welcome. I was out of town for the annual Mohave County GOP Picnic in the mountains (cool weather, yay!), and I didn't see this mess until I got back in town. I am sure nobody is miffed at me for the cleanup.
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Most welcome. I was out of town for the annual Mohave County GOP Picnic in the mountains (cool weather, yay!), and I didn't see this mess until I got back in town. I am sure nobody is miffed at me for the cleanup.
I'm jealous -- cool, mountain air. Too bad you couldn't send that to me. 94 degrees here. LOL
And if anyone squawks about moving the arguments over MLK to a separate thread, send them to me. I will give them one of these: ****slapping
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I appreciate the sentiment, though I am a mere caretaker.
But yes, Lewis's political motivations aside, let's keep discussions at hand to the deceased. I don't mind going off-track a little bit, but try not to totally derail. :beer:
@jmyrlefuller
For the record,I considered Lewis to be fairly honest for a politician.
Nobody can question his courage or dedication,even if you might not have liked his methods.
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Does anyone have a photo of Lewis with a smile? I am sure there are plenty
but I haven't seen any. He seemed to have that tough survival look.
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Charles Evers, civil rights icon and brother of Medgar Evers, dies at 97
Evers, the first Black elected mayor of a Mississippi city, had been a gun-toting bootlegger, a numbers-runner and a pimp in Chicago before returning to Mississippi after his brother was assassinated in June 1963.
By USA TODAY Jul 22, 2020, 2:46pm CDT
Jimmie E. Gates
JACKSON, Miss. – Civil rights icon Charles Evers, the first Black elected mayor of a Mississippi city and brother of Medgar Evers, has died at the age of 97.
Evers became the first black mayor of a Mississippi town or city since reconstruction when he was elected mayor of Fayette in 1969.
Evers died Wednesday surrounded by family at his Rankin County home, according to the Rankin County coroner. ...
More at Chicago Sun-Times (https://chicago.suntimes.com/2020/7/22/21334614/charles-evers-civil-rights-icon-dies-at-97)
Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump
I am deeply saddened by the loss of my friend Charles Evers. Charles was a trail blazer in politics and a fearless leader, alongside his brother Medgar, for Civil Rights.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EdkJ9xwXsAAxjFx?format=jpg&name=small)
6:46 PM · Jul 22, 2020
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Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump
I am deeply saddened by the loss of my friend Charles Evers. Charles was a trail blazer in politics and a fearless leader, alongside his brother Medgar, for Civil Rights.
6:46 PM · Jul 22, 2020
Charles Evers was a great man. He stood up to the race pimps.
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Charles Evers was a great man. He stood up to the race pimps.
Seems like the 'old guard' is checking out, just in time for 'the movement' to be co-opted by The current crop of Marxists.
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Does anyone have a photo of Lewis with a smile? .
(https://www2.howard.edu/sites/default/files/styles/press/public/131126_John%20Lewis%20medal-1200px-2.jpg?itok=2AGVwqIw) (https://cdn.britannica.com/53/148553-004-3B8EE04D/John-Lewis.jpg)
@Slide Rule
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Thanks. I had only seen him with a scowl in photos and video.
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Charles Evers was a great man. He stood up to the race pimps.
@Hoodat
Why not? He WAS an actual pimp at one time. Who better to represent freedom,equality,and women's rights than a pimp?
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Conservative UNC-Wilmington Professor Mike Adams Found Dead in His Home
Posted by Stacey Matthews
Thursday, July 23, 2020 at 9:29pm
Some unfortunate news to report tonight.
Professor Mike Adams, who taught sociology and criminology at UNC-Wilmington, was found dead in his home earlier today by New Hanover County sheriff’s deputies: According to the New Hanover County Sheriff’s Office, Mike Adams was found dead at his residence today.
Deputies responded to a wellness check at Adams’ home address and found him deceased. NHCSO is investigating the death, but has not released any additional information, and could not confirm cause of death or if foul play was suspected.
The longtime professor of criminology and sociology at the University of North Carolina Wilmington (UNCW) was set to retire next week as part of a $500,000 settlement.
His forced “retirement†was announced just a few weeks ago. It came after UNC-W students and faculty launched a campaign to have Adams fired after supposedly “insensitive†and “polarizing†tweets he posted earlier this year ... More at Legal Insurrection (https://legalinsurrection.com/2020/07/conservative-unc-wilmington-professor-mike-adams-found-dead-in-his-home/?fbclid=IwAR1_q3BaTzTtyAn8K21GQ8dAVTIv0NgHC09Bfcmyvm7p21q7DBVjBwGHEyU)
(https://c3.legalinsurrection.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/ProfessorMikeAdams-620x437.jpg)
Link to story from local newspaper, Port City Daily (https://portcitydaily.com/local-news/2020/07/23/new-hanover-sheriffs-office-investigating-death-of-uncw-professor-mike-adams/)
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Conservative UNC-Wilmington Professor Mike Adams Found Dead in His Home
Posted by Stacey Matthews
Thursday, July 23, 2020 at 9:29pm
Some unfortunate news to report tonight.
Professor Mike Adams, who taught sociology and criminology at UNC-Wilmington, was found dead in his home earlier today by New Hanover County sheriff’s deputies:His forced “retirement†was announced just a few weeks ago. It came after UNC-W students and faculty launched a campaign to have Adams fired after supposedly “insensitive†and “polarizing†tweets he posted earlier this year ... More at Legal Insurrection (https://legalinsurrection.com/2020/07/conservative-unc-wilmington-professor-mike-adams-found-dead-in-his-home/?fbclid=IwAR1_q3BaTzTtyAn8K21GQ8dAVTIv0NgHC09Bfcmyvm7p21q7DBVjBwGHEyU)
(https://c3.legalinsurrection.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/ProfessorMikeAdams-620x437.jpg)
Link to story from local newspaper, Port City Daily (https://portcitydaily.com/local-news/2020/07/23/new-hanover-sheriffs-office-investigating-death-of-uncw-professor-mike-adams/)
(thinking what everyone else is thinking, and surprised it took this long. Every high profile conservative voicie needs to take extra precautions)
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(thinking what everyone else is thinking, and surprised it took this long. Every high profile conservative voicie needs to take extra precautions)
Sentenced to death for 'insensitive' comments. Sounds about right.
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(thinking what everyone else is thinking, and surprised it took this long. Every high profile conservative voicie needs to take extra precautions)
I'm not thinking anything until and unless a cause of death is released.
That said, these days with crazies on both sides, yes, we all have to take precautions.
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I'm not thinking anything until and unless a cause of death is released.
That said, these days with crazies on both sides, yes, we all have to take precautions.
That is why I infered "thinking", rather than going full on record. And yes, we will have to see M.E.'s report, hopefully family will go the extra mile to make sure this isn't some kind of Brietbart scenario.
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That is why I infered "thinking", rather than going full on record. And yes, we will have to see M.E.'s report, hopefully family will go the extra mile to make sure this isn't some kind of Brietbart scenario.
No one has ever proven that Breitbart died from anything but heart disease, conspiracy theories notwithstanding.
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No one has ever proven that Breitbart died from anything but heart disease, conspiracy theories notwithstanding.
I am not going to rehash the whole Brietbart death chronology, but there were more than just a few too far fetched coincidences which should have raised eyebrows. And you know that.
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Mike will be missed. He was a real "FIRE"-brand who never took "shut up" for an explanation.
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He was a brave voice for conservative beliefs. God bless him for standing up to the leftist mobs of academia for as long as he did. I wish he had moved on to a college that would have welcomed him, though. My first thought was suicide, but anything's possible. Will await the medical examiner's findings.
Edit to add: Saw a tweet from Ian Miles Cheong, who seems to assume it's suicide. But others noted that Adams was about to walk away with $500K from UNC-W and marry the "love of his life," so it's best to wait for confirmation.
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Conservative UNC-Wilmington Professor Mike Adams Found Dead in His Home
Posted by Stacey Matthews
Thursday, July 23, 2020 at 9:29pm
Some unfortunate news to report tonight.
Professor Mike Adams, who taught sociology and criminology at UNC-Wilmington, was found dead in his home earlier today by New Hanover County sheriff’s deputies:His forced “retirement†was announced just a few weeks ago. It came after UNC-W students and faculty launched a campaign to have Adams fired after supposedly “insensitive†and “polarizing†tweets he posted earlier this year ... More at Legal Insurrection (https://legalinsurrection.com/2020/07/conservative-unc-wilmington-professor-mike-adams-found-dead-in-his-home/?fbclid=IwAR1_q3BaTzTtyAn8K21GQ8dAVTIv0NgHC09Bfcmyvm7p21q7DBVjBwGHEyU)
(https://c3.legalinsurrection.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/ProfessorMikeAdams-620x437.jpg)
Link to story from local newspaper, Port City Daily (https://portcitydaily.com/local-news/2020/07/23/new-hanover-sheriffs-office-investigating-death-of-uncw-professor-mike-adams/)
DAMN SHAME! RIP.
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Christian apologetics speaker Frank Turek, a friend of Adams, pointed out in a tweet that "Mike Adams was the reasonable one," looking at this article in which Mike responded to someone who had called him an embarrassment:
An Embarrassment to Higher Education
Written by Mike Adams
on August 28, 2013
... While I respect your right to conclude that I am the biggest embarrassment to higher education in America, I think you’re wrong. In fact, I don’t even think I’m the biggest embarrassment to higher education in the state of North Carolina. But since you’re a liberal and you support “choice†– provided we’re talking about dismembering children and not school vouchers for those who weren’t dismembered – I want to give you some options. In fact, I’m going to describe the antics of ten professors, official campus groups, and invited campus speakers in North Carolina and let you decide which constitutes the biggest embarrassment to higher education.
1. In the early spring semester of 2013, a women’s studies professor and a psychology professor at Western Carolina University co-sponsored a panel on bondage and S&M. The purpose of the panel was to teach college students how to inflict pain on themselves and others for sexual pleasure. When you called me the biggest embarrassment in higher education, you must not have known about their bondage panel. Maybe you were tied up that evening and couldn’t make it. ...
Clash Daily (https://clashdaily.com/2013/08/an-embarrassment-to-higher-education/)
Former NFL player and current Baptist minister Paul Blair noted in a tweet that Adams was a former communist and atheist, but became a Christian.
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He may well have been the best blues guitarist England produced . . .
Fleetwood Mac co-founder Peter Green dies aged 73: Singer-songwriter and guitarist behind one of band's all-time classics Albatross passes away 'peacefully in his sleep', reveal family (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8559849/Fleetwood-Mac-founder-Peter-Green-dies-aged-73-family-concern.html)
Fleetwood Mac co-founder Peter Green has died aged 73, a statement from solicitors acting on behalf of his family said.
The statement from Swan Turton solicitors said: 'It is with great sadness that the family of Peter Green announce his death this weekend, peacefully in his sleep.
'A further statement will be provided in the coming days'.
The influential blues rock guitarist, from Bethnal Green in London, formed Fleetwood Mac with drummer Mick Fleetwood in London in 1967 . . .
(https://www.abc.net.au/cm/rimage/11984440-4x3-xlarge.jpg)
I often tell people who ask me that I'd like to become the third-greatest Jewish blues guitarist when I grow up. (Michael Bloomfield was number one and Peter Green, number two.)
Some of his best . . .
Error 404 (Not Found)!!1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0DsFnQqN8uk#)
Error 404 (Not Found)!!1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pAzlyL-ZFU#)
Error 404 (Not Found)!!1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VbKREkuDh3s#)
Error 404 (Not Found)!!1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gjOGaDseKgw#)
Error 404 (Not Found)!!1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f6_pG8gG5aM#)
Error 404 (Not Found)!!1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04zT18GCO_E#)
RIP Greeny.
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@EasyAce
I became a Fleetwood Mac fan well after Green departed. It was some years later that I got around to looking up the band's earlier music. It was and is quite good. A shame what happened to Green. He was very talented.
RIP
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@EasyAce
I became a Fleetwood Mac fan well after Green departed. It was some years later that I got around to looking up the band's earlier music. It was and is quite good. A shame what happened to Green. He was very talented.
RIP
@Applewood
Green's was the only Fleetwood Mac that ever mattered to me, and it always will be.
Error 404 (Not Found)!!1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLaOXg65Ak8#)
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I liked.....
Error 404 (Not Found)!!1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-C6p-GwHfA#)
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@EasyAce
I became a Fleetwood Mac fan well after Green departed. It was some years later that I got around to looking up the band's earlier music. It was and is quite good. A shame what happened to Green. He was very talented.
RIP
Being in Fleetwood Mac is not for the faint of heart. Even Buckingham with his level of talent was recently drummed out.
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Regis Philbin, Legendary Television Host, Dies at 88
Regis Philbin has died. The beloved star was 88.
The longtime television host died on July 24, PEOPLE confirms. "We are deeply saddened to share that our beloved Regis Philbin passed away last night of natural causes, one month shy of his 89th birthday," his family shares with PEOPLE in an exclusive statement on Saturday.
"His family and friends are forever grateful for the time we got to spend with him – for his warmth, his legendary sense of humor, and his singular ability to make every day into something worth talking about. We thank his fans and admirers for their incredible support over his 60-year career and ask for privacy as we mourn his loss," the Philbin family says.
https://people.com/tv/regis-philbin-dead/
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Regis Philbin, Legendary Television Host, Dies at 88
https://people.com/tv/regis-philbin-dead/
RIP Regis.
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@EasyAce
I became a Fleetwood Mac fan well after Green departed. It was some years later that I got around to looking up the band's earlier music. It was and is quite good. A shame what happened to Green. He was very talented.
RIP
I was a Mac fan in the late ‘70’s during the Buckingham Nicks era starting with Rumors, but like you it led me to discovering earlier incarnations of the band including the first with Green that also led to me “discovering†the original blues artists who inspired those late 60’s British blue bands. I picked up some old Fleetwood Mac vinyl albums with Green at a used record store – Mr. Wonderful was one. I also “discovered†Bob Welch era Mac - Bare Trees and Mystery to Me being my favorites.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0hnl0svE0A (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0hnl0svE0A#)
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Honestly, even though he was almost 89, I'm genuinely surprised Regis died. He seemed like a man much younger and healthier than you'd expect for his age.
But then again, any day you live over 80 is a gift. Cherish it.
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Darren Rovell @darrenrovell
The young man went from an NBC page, to a messenger, to a parking lot attendant, to a writer, to a late night television host, to a morning television star. One of the most incredible career archs of man. RIP, Regis.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Edy70mGWsAAJl8D?format=jpg&name=900x900)
3:38 PM · Jul 25, 2020
Error 404 (Not Found)!!1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dE5ROl2YPbs#)
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Being in Fleetwood Mac is not for the faint of heart. Even Buckingham with his level of talent was recently drummed out.
People who were familiar with the band before Nicks and Buckingham came along said the pair ruined Fleetwood Mac. So to me it's a little ironic that Buckingham was later shown the door.
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People who were familiar with the band before Nicks and Buckingham came along said the pair ruined Fleetwood Mac. So to me it's a little ironic that Buckingham was later shown the door.
LOL. You spelled "LMAO hysterical!", I-r-o-n-i-c
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Regis Philbin was quite a talent. Talk shows, game shows, acting, a music career. I read he had a voice acting gig in the last Shrek movie and even owned a car dealership in Arizona (the latter didn't last too long, but he tried). All the while, one never heard about scandals involving him. He and his second wife, Joy, were married for 50 years. Not too common among celebrities.
Rest in peace, Mr. Philbin.
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John Saxon, ‘Nightmare on Elm Street’ Actor, Dies at 83
Actor John Saxon, who starred in three “Nightmare on Elm Street†movies for the late Wes Craven, died Saturday of pneumonia in Murfreesboro, Tennessee, his wife, Gloria, told The Hollywood Reporter. Saxon was 83.
Saxon is also known for play the role of the degenerate gambler, Roper, in the 1973 Bruce Lee classic “Enter the Dragon†for Warner Bros. The film centered on a martial arts tournament that took place on an island owned by the villainous Mr. Han.
https://www.thewrap.com/john-saxon-nightmare-on-elm-street-actor-dies-at-83/ (https://www.thewrap.com/john-saxon-nightmare-on-elm-street-actor-dies-at-83/)
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Saxon had many more credits in movies and tv:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Saxon (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Saxon)
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Regis Philbin was quite a talent. Talk shows, game shows, acting, a music career. I read he had a voice acting gig in the last Shrek movie and even owned a car dealership in Arizona (the latter didn't last too long, but he tried). All the while, one never heard about scandals involving him. He and his second wife, Joy, were married for 50 years. Not too common among celebrities.
Rest in peace, Mr. Philbin.
I remember, about 20 years ago, reading one of the tabloids—and I am quoting verbatim here:
"REGIS EXPOSED! He's so cheap, he saves half-cans of soda!"
If that's the worst they had on the guy, that's a pretty good life.
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Christian apologetics speaker Frank Turek, a friend of Adams, pointed out in a tweet that "Mike Adams was the reasonable one," looking at this article in which Mike responded to someone who had called him an embarrassment:Clash Daily (https://clashdaily.com/2013/08/an-embarrassment-to-higher-education/)
1. In the early spring semester of 2013, a women’s studies professor and a psychology professor at Western Carolina University co-sponsored a panel on bondage and S&M. The purpose of the panel was to teach college students how to inflict pain on themselves and others for sexual pleasure. When you called me the biggest embarrassment in higher education, you must not have known about their bondage panel. Maybe you were tied up that evening and couldn’t make it. ...
@mountaineer
I don't remember ever hearing of this guy before,but after reading the above,I miss him.
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Breaking - Olivia DevHavilland has died at 104, according to the BBC.
Details to follow
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@Gefn
Obituary: Olivia de Havilland, star of Hollywood's Golden Age
Dame Olivia de Havilland, who has died at 104 in Paris, was one of the last survivors of Hollywood's Golden Age.
Her most famous role was that of the virtuous Melanie opposite Vivien Leigh's wayward Scarlett, in the epic Gone with the Wind.
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At the time of her death she was the oldest living performer to have won an Oscar.
https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-12717233 (https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-12717233)
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Breaking - Olivia DevHavilland has died at 104, according to the BBC.
Details to follow
The last of the golden age of Hollywood. I fell in love with her character in Gone With the Wind. She seemed like the perfect lady
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'Gone With the Wind' star Olivia de Havilland dies at 104
Olivia de Havilland, classic star of Hollywood and two-time winner of the Academy Award for Best Actress, died peacefully in her sleep at her home in Paris, France on Saturday. She was 104.
De Havilland built her legacy — one of strong, beguiling characters in difficult circumstances — with her own hands. She rose to prominence in the 1930s as Errol Flynn’s imperiled lass in a series of swashbuckling adventure films like Captain Blood and The Adventures of Robin Hood. Typically, she’d be bound up and carried away, only to be saved by the hero and ensnared once more in the ties of matrimony. But in her own life, de Havilland refused to wait for the calvary. Confident in her abilities and wary of being typecast as the damsel in distress, she waged a legal battle against Warner Bros. when the studio tried to extend her seven-year contract as a penalty for refusing roles. She eventually won, swooping in and saving herself in a landmark ruling that is still known today as the “de Havilland law.â€
https://ew.com/movies/gone-with-the-wind-star-olivia-de-havilland-dies-at-104/
She might be remembered for GWTW, but I also saw her in “The Snake Pitâ€, and that was one heck of a role too.
Died in her sleep at 104. Rest In Peace Miss Melanie.
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She might be remembered for GWTW, but I also saw her in “The Snake Pitâ€, and that was one heck of a role too.
Died in her sleep at 104. Rest In Peace Miss Melanie.
I think the last film I saw her in was called Lady In A Cage. She played a disabled woman stuck in a home elevator when the power goes out. She was at the mercy of some punks who I believe were trying to rob her. Not exactly a film classic, but as always, Miss deHavilland was the consummate professional.
Miss deHavilland had a very successful career and was blessed with a long life. Just a shame she spent much of her life in a feud with her sister, Joan Fontaine. But I will always admire her for her work and will miss one more now gone talent from long ago.
Rest in peace, Miss deHavilland.
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The last of the golden age of Hollywood. I fell in love with her character in Gone With the Wind. She seemed like the perfect lady
Indeed. A beautiful lady who stood with Ronald Reagan against the Marxists in 1946 Hollywood (see Paul Kengor's book, "Dupes").
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De Havilland also had a major impact on labor law: the De Havilland Law.
Back in her day, there were laws in California that said you could not hold someone under contract for more than two years. Well, the studios decided to construe that quite disingenuously by treating it like a time clock: to them, the clock started when you started filming and stopped when you stopped filming, meaning it would take two years' worth of timed work to be freed from the contract.
The De Havilland Law changed that so that they literally meant two years (eventually this was upped to seven years) from the time the contract is signed, with no "stopping the clock."
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Indeed. A beautiful lady who stood with Ronald Reagan against the Marxists in 1946 Hollywood (see Paul Kengor's book, "Dupes").
@mountaineer
See also these two books . . .
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Looks very interesting, @EasyAce. The Kengor book examines just how much of a dyed-in-the-wool Marxist Humphrey Bogart may have been.
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Regis Philbin, Legendary Television Host, Dies at 88
https://people.com/tv/regis-philbin-dead/
RIP Regis.
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John Saxon, ‘Nightmare on Elm Street’ Actor, Dies at 83
https://www.thewrap.com/john-saxon-nightmare-on-elm-street-actor-dies-at-83/ (https://www.thewrap.com/john-saxon-nightmare-on-elm-street-actor-dies-at-83/)
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Saxon had many more credits in movies and tv:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Saxon (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Saxon)
Damn, I really like his acting. Not really a Major star, but you could count on him giving a solid performance. I think I first saw him in an episode of "The Six million dollar Man"
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Damn, I really like his acting. Not really a Major star, but you could count on him giving a solid performance. I think I first saw him in an episode of "The Six million dollar Man"
I think I’ve seen him in other 70s shows. I’m sure if I look on IMDb he’s done a lot of guest spots on sitcoms.
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Looks very interesting, @EasyAce. The Kengor book examines just how much of a dyed-in-the-wool Marxist Humphrey Bogart may have been.
Bogart wasn't a Marxist; he was a liberal Democrat in a time when "liberal Democrat" wasn't half the menace it is today. He did organise the Committee for the First Amendment and made a point of writing a published essay, "I'm No Communist," and emphasising that whomever the Committee stood up for during the investigations of the time the Hollywood Ten weren't among them.
In fact, after Edward Dmytryk (one of the Ten who finally denounced the Party in Hollywood when he realised he'd been had and named names) was finally allowed to direct again, Bogart came to his aid when Dymytryk was making The Left Hand of God: when Gene Tierney had trouble with some of her lines, at a time she was beginning to suffer mental illness (something Bogart knew well enough: his sister dealt with it, too), Bogart stepped in to coach her and encouraged her to seek treatment when the film was made. Taking a large burden off Dmytryk as he finished the film.
That was after Bogart gave Dmytryk almost a more significant helping hand: Bogie dropped his normal asking price considerably so Dmytryk could cast him as Captain Queeg in The Caine Mutiny---and it paid off in spades, with the film being a huge hit, Bogie getting his final Oscar nomination, and Dmytryk's work getting the film nominated for Best Picture. (It lost to a film made by another ex-Communist who turned on the Party and named names as well: On the Waterfront, directed by Elia Kazan.)
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The last of the golden age of Hollywood. I fell in love with her character in Gone With the Wind. She seemed like the perfect lady
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I don't want to go too far off the rails here, Easy Ace, but Kengor's research shows there's evidence Bogie well may have been deeply involved with the Communists during a period of time in the 1930s - a bit of a career drought - he spent in NYC. Nevertheless, after returning to Hollywood, he was not so deeply involved with the actual Communist Party - just, perhaps, one of the dupes Kengor has described, as evidenced by his activities with the "First Amendment" bunch.
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The casting in GWTW was superb. Just as I imagined them after reading the book. Well, maybe not Leslie Howard. But I guess he fit the part. Miss Melanie was excellent.
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Damn, I really like his acting. Not really a Major star, but you could count on him giving a solid performance. I think I first saw him in an episode of "The Six million dollar Man"
I think the first movie I remember him from was Enter The Dragon, and did you know:
In 1971, he was the international middleweight karate champion. John Saxon was cast because he had a black belt in karate.
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EasyAce, thanks for the pointers towards the two books above...
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Mark Steyn's piece on Mike Adams is worth a read:
... He "seemed like" a happy warrior, but who knows? It's a miserable, unrelenting, stressful life, as the friends fall away and the colleagues, who were socially distant years before Covid, turn openly hostile. There are teachers who agree with Mike Adams at UNCW and other universities - not a lot, but some - and there are others who don't agree but retain a certain queasiness about the tightening bounds of acceptable opinion ...and they all keep their heads down. So the burthen borne by a man with his head up, such as Adams, is a lonely one, and it can drag you down and the compensations (an invitation to discuss your latest TownHall column on the radio or cable news) are very fleeting.
The American academy is bonkers and has reared monsters - so that we now have a "black liberation movement" staffed almost entirely by college-educated white women (including a remarkable number of angry trans-women) from the over-undergraduated permanent-varsity Class of Whenever. We are assured that out in "the real world" there is a soi-disant "silent majority" whose voices will resound around the world on November 3rd. For what it's worth, I don't believe in the existence of this "silent majority", and a political party that has won the popular vote only once in the last thirty years (2004) ought to be chary about over-investing in it. ...
[url=http://www.steynonline.com/10482/mn]www.steynonline.com/10482/mn (http://He "seemed like" a happy warrior, but who knows? It's a miserable, unrelenting, stressful life, as the friends fall away and the colleagues, who were socially distant years before Covid, turn openly hostile. There are teachers who agree with Mike Adams at UNCW and other universities - not a lot, but some - and there are others who don't agree but retain a certain queasiness about the tightening bounds of acceptable opinion ...and they all keep their heads down. So the burthen borne by a man with his head up, such as Adams, is a lonely one, and it can drag you down and the compensations (an invitation to discuss your latest TownHall column on the radio or cable news) are very fleeting.
The American academy is bonkers and has reared monsters - so that we now have a "black liberation movement" staffed almost entirely by college-educated white women (including a remarkable number of angry trans-women) from the over-undergraduated permanent-varsity Class of Whenever. We are assured that out in "the real world" there is a soi-disant "silent majority" whose voices will resound around the world on November 3rd. For what it's worth, I don't believe in the existence of this "silent majority", and a political party that has won the popular vote only once in the last thirty years (2004) ought to be chary about over-investing in it. ...[/quote)
I seem unable to post the link properly, no matter how many times I try!
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Damn, I really like his acting. Not really a Major star, but you could count on him giving a solid performance. I think I first saw him in an episode of "The Six million dollar Man"
Saxon's most prominent role, IMO, was with Bruce Lee in the king of the cheesy martial arts movies Enter the Dragon. It even looked as though he knew a few moves himself.
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NATIONAL Lloyd Marcus, conservative columnist and Tea Party leader, dies at 71.
Caiden CowgerPublished 1 day ago on July 26, 2020By Caiden Cowger
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PAW PAW, WV — On July 24th, Conservative columnist and activist Lloyd Marcus passed away at the age of 71. Marcus suffered from a sudden heart attack, passing one day after his wedding anniversary. He was born on October 24, 1948.
Surviving Marcus is his wife Mary, who made this announcement:
“With my sad, heavy, and deeply broken heart Jesus suddenly came and reclaimed our Lloyd Marcus, The Unhyphenated American. Loved by many all over the world with his warm smile, optimism, hearty exuberance, his wise written words in columns, songs, videos, artworks and books, Lloyd Marcus is deeply missed. His family and dear friends are stunned at the sheer quickness and absoluteness of God’s hand as he was plucked from us to be with his beloved Lord and Savior in Heaven above. As I continue my life without his all-encompassing human love of me, his adoring, and steadfast wife, I thank you all for your loving compassion. Patriots, I want you to know he loved each and every one of you. Reading and responding to your letters of encouragement, questions, and well wishes, he loved you all and spoke of and wrote about many of you. I and he have always thanked you for your gifts through the years in helping him ‘Spread the Truth.’
Thanking you in advance for your heartful giving, I leave you with Lloyd’s words: I’m NOT African American-I’m Lloyd Marcus-AMERICAN! God instructed Pharaoh, ‘Let my people go.’ God instructs us, ‘Let my people know.’ Spread truth.â€
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https://cowgernation.com/2020/07/26/lloyd-marcus-conservative-columnist-and-tea-party-leader-dies-at-71/ (https://cowgernation.com/2020/07/26/lloyd-marcus-conservative-columnist-and-tea-party-leader-dies-at-71/)
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Last Stand to Save America as Founded
by Lloyd Marcus • July 23, 2020
Lloyd Marcus, The Unhyphenated American
My patriotic mood began while rewatching Whitney Houston’s spectacular performance of our National Anthem at Super Bowl XXV in 1991. Whitney’s rendition was rereleased as a single after the 9/11 terrorist attacks. She donated all proceeds to charity.
Serendipitous, these remarkable quotes about America appeared on my radar.
“Fourscore and seven years ago our fathers brought forth, on this continent, a new nation, conceived in liberty, and dedicated to the proposition that all men are created equal.†— Abraham Lincoln
Wow! Lincoln said it right there in his Gettysburg address that America was founded upon the principle that all men are created equal. Leftist schools have taught our kids for decades that America was founded by evil white guys with no desire for equality. Yes, it took a while to reach our goal of equality for all Americans; up to 800,000 died in the Civil War to free the slaves and years of civil rights battles paved the way to elect our first black president. But we got there folks. We got there!
“The thing that sets the American Christian apart from all other people in the world is he will die on his feet before he’ll live on his knees.†— George Washington
I pray that Christians will stop kneeling to wicked cultural demands and begin standing up again for Godly principles. ... More (https://www.lloydmarcus.com/?p=6710)
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Saxon's most prominent role, IMO, was with Bruce Lee in the king of the cheesy martial arts movies Enter the Dragon. It even looked as though he knew a few moves himself.
In 1971, he was the international middleweight karate champion. John Saxon was cast because he had a black belt in karate.
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Herman Cain passed away at 74. COVID, I think. There will be details...
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Herman Cain passed away at 74. COVID, I think. There will be details...
Damn
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Damn
They're blaming Trump's Tulsa rally.
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Herman Cain passed away at 74. COVID, I think. There will be details...
Of course it's COVID! I doubt one can die of anything else at present even if they were a stage 4 cancer survivor who had undergone multiple rounds of Chemo.
Rest in Peace Mr. Cain! You earned it! The world rarely sees the likes of men like Herman Cain.
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I was giving Herman Cain serious consideration in late 2011, before the MSM took him out (yeah, I know that's an over-simplification).
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I was giving Herman Cain serious consideration in late 2011, before the MSM took him out (yeah, I know that's an over-simplification).
Sadly, he is one of a long string of men to suffer the same political fate. And sadly that will continue because we have largely become a nation of SHEEP with the media as the shepard.
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Herman Cain, former presidential candidate, dies after battle with coronavirus
Herman Cain, a onetime Republican presidential candidate and former CEO of Godfather's Pizza, has died from coronavirus, according to an obituary sent from his verified Twitter account and Newsmax, where he was launching a television show.
Cain, 74, was hospitalized earlier this month, and his Twitter account said this week he was being treated with oxygen in his lungs. It is unknown where Cain contracted the virus.
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https://herald-review.com/news/national/herman-cain-former-presidential-candidate-dies-after-battle-with-coronavirus/article_ccf549af-1389-51a7-a816-202101bacc58.html#utm_source=herald-review.com&utm_campaign=%2Fnewsletter-templates%2Fbreaking&utm_medium=PostUp&utm_content=304cf8af85a28c1dfc7a1d6b3f8e4acea2bdebdd
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Herman Cain, former presidential candidate, dies after battle with coronavirus
Herman Cain, a onetime Republican presidential candidate and former CEO of Godfather's Pizza, has died from coronavirus, according to an obituary sent from his verified Twitter account and Newsmax, where he was launching a television show.
Cain, 74, was hospitalized earlier this month, and his Twitter account said this week he was being treated with oxygen in his lungs. It is unknown where Cain contracted the virus.
more
https://herald-review.com/news/national/herman-cain-former-presidential-candidate-dies-after-battle-with-coronavirus/article_ccf549af-1389-51a7-a816-202101bacc58.html#utm_source=herald-review.com&utm_campaign=%2Fnewsletter-templates%2Fbreaking&utm_medium=PostUp&utm_content=304cf8af85a28c1dfc7a1d6b3f8e4acea2bdebdd
8888crybaby
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Former GOP presidential candidate Herman Cain dies of COVID-19
Herman Cain, a successful businessman who ran for the 2012 Republican presidential nomination and later became a backer of President Donald Trump, has died from complications from COVID-19, according to a statement posted Thursday on his personal website.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/former-gop-presidential-candidate-herman-cain-dead-coronavirus-n1235312 (https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/former-gop-presidential-candidate-herman-cain-dead-coronavirus-n1235312)
8888crybaby
I liked Herman Cain and probably would have voted for him if he hadn't been forced out of the race through bogus allegations of misconduct, possibly set up by his own party. The Republican brass was determined that Romney would be the nominee and they didn't like it that Cain was becoming more popular than Romney. Can't prove it and I know Democrat operatives were blamed, but I still think his own party worked to get him out.
Cain's 9-9-9 plan: Would it have been feasible? Maybe, maybe not. But while others like Romney were blowing around hot air, Cain actually had a plan. And that impressed me.
Rest in peace, Mr. Cain. And may God give comfort to your loved ones.
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Herman Cain passed away at 74. COVID, I think. There will be details...
@Cyber Liberty
Well,according to AOL news that published a "news" (propaganda) report from The Huff and Puff Post",he died because he attended a Trump Campaign Rally,and didn't wear a mask.
THIS great American patriot will most likely be almost totally ignored by the media,while a whole week or more of attention is given to a professional racist poverty pimp grafter that never did a single thing in his life to benefit anyone not black. In fact,his eulogy is being broadcast on tv right now.
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They're blaming Trump's Tulsa rally.
@Cyber Liberty
And Trump,specifically.
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Former GOP presidential candidate Herman Cain dies of COVID-19
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/former-gop-presidential-candidate-herman-cain-dead-coronavirus-n1235312 (https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/former-gop-presidential-candidate-herman-cain-dead-coronavirus-n1235312)
8888crybaby
I liked Herman Cain and probably would have voted for him if he hadn't been forced out of the race through bogus allegations of misconduct, possibly set up by his own party. The Republican brass was determined that Romney would be the nominee and they didn't like it that Cain was becoming more popular than Romney. Can't prove it and I know Democrat operatives were blamed, but I still think his own party worked to get him out.
Cain's 9-9-9 plan: Would it have been feasible? Maybe, maybe not. But while others like Romney were blowing around hot air, Cain actually had a plan. And that impressed me.
Rest in peace, Mr. Cain. And may God give comfort to your loved ones.
You are 100% correct @Applewood!
I would have voted FOR him with absolutely no reservations! And yes, his 9-9-9 plan would have given this contry's economy a shot in the arm unlike anything that has not been seen in modern times. That is precisely why the establishment (both parties) had to take him out.
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Of course it's COVID! I doubt one can die of anything else at present even if they were a stage 4 cancer survivor who had undergone multiple rounds of Chemo.
Rest in Peace Mr. Cain! You earned it! The world rarely sees the likes of men like Herman Cain.
@Bigun
Last week they blamed the death of a guy in his 30's that died in a motorcycle/car accident on the virus.
Not to mention the death of a 96 year old WW-2 vet that had been living in a nursing home for years. Struck down in his prime,and it's all Trumps fault!
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Herman Cain, former presidential candidate, dies after battle with coronavirus
Herman Cain, a onetime Republican presidential candidate and former CEO of Godfather's Pizza, has died from coronavirus, according to an obituary sent from his verified Twitter account and Newsmax, where he was launching a television show.
Cain, 74, was hospitalized earlier this month, and his Twitter account said this week he was being treated with oxygen in his lungs. It is unknown where Cain contracted the virus.
more
https://herald-review.com/news/national/herman-cain-former-presidential-candidate-dies-after-battle-with-coronavirus/article_ccf549af-1389-51a7-a816-202101bacc58.html#utm_source=herald-review.com&utm_campaign=%2Fnewsletter-templates%2Fbreaking&utm_medium=PostUp&utm_content=304cf8af85a28c1dfc7a1d6b3f8e4acea2bdebdd
@mystery-ak
According to the Huffington Post,and by extension,AOL "News",he got it from attending a Trump Rally.
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@Bigun
Last week they blamed the death of a guy in his 30's that died in a motorcycle/car accident on the virus.
Not to mention the death of a 96 year old WW-2 vet that had been living in a nursing home for years. Struck down in his prime,and it's all Trumps fault!
According to the reading of the COVID related death stats, only 7% of recorded COVID deaths are solely due to the virus. For the remaining 93% the average number of co-morbidities is 2.5 in addition to the virus.
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Covid Positive People needed as Test Subjects (TULSA-BOK CENTER) (https://archive.fo/iiVpJ#selection-351.0-355.19)
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@Bigun
Last week they blamed the death of a guy in his 30's that died in a motorcycle/car accident on the virus.
Not to mention the death of a 96 year old WW-2 vet that had been living in a nursing home for years. Struck down in his prime,and it's all Trumps fault!
@sneakypete
This sort of BS is why I no longer listen to the top of the local news where some frowny-face anchor reads off the total number of new cases and total number of deaths. Pennsylvania was already caught once including "suspected" COVID cases with confirmed cases, but no proof. I'm sure this sort of thing goes on all the time. And what you said about the 96-year old vet or the guy who died in a motorcycle accident -- I'm sure there is pressure upon hospitals, medical examiners and others to treat as many deaths as possible as COVID-related.
Yes, COVID is serious and yes, people are dying from it. I won't call it a hoax as some have said. But I do believe there is a definite push to inflate the numbers to make things worse than they are. Why, I don't know. The prevailing conspiracy theory is that this is being done to thwart Trump's re-election. I don't know about that, but I do know that someone wants to keep us all in fear, at home, cowering in a corner of our homes, so they can control us and deprive us of our rights and who knows what else.
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Covid Positive People needed as Test Subjects (TULSA-BOK CENTER) (https://archive.fo/iiVpJ#selection-351.0-355.19)
That is bizarre and creepy on at least a dozen levels.
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Covid Positive People needed as Test Subjects (TULSA-BOK CENTER) (https://archive.fo/iiVpJ#selection-351.0-355.19)
Be my guest! I think I'll pass.
BTW: I'm firmly convinced that anyone with a common cold will test positive for COVID! Prove me wrong.
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That is bizarre and creepy on at least a dozen levels.
That was a recruitment of Covid-infected individuals for attending the Trump rally in Tulsa which Herman Cain attended.
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Be my guest! I think I'll pass.
BTW: I'm firmly convinced that anyone with a common cold will test positive for COVID! Prove me wrong.
@Bigun
Not a bet *I* would be making,regardless of the odds given.
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That was a recruitment of Covid-infected individuals for attending the Trump rally in Tulsa which Herman Cain attended.
Wow, now I see it. Left wing bio-warfare.
At first glance it looked just like a random whacko.
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The prevailing conspiracy theory is that this is being done to thwart Trump's re-election. I don't know about that, but I do know that someone wants to keep us all in fear, at home, cowering in a corner of our homes, so they can control us and deprive us of our rights and who knows what else.
@Applewood
Show anyone a genuine crisis, and they can show you an array of government leaders at all levels, regardless of party, prepared completely to use it as a beard for infringing even further on our rights than those rights were infringed upon without crises.
(P.S. Nobody needs to conspire to thwart President Tweety's re-election. He seems to be doing a good enough job of trying to thwart it by himself. Even his own White House staff can't figure out how to save him from himself.)
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I agree wholeheartedly, @Applewood . Cain was a good man who got a raw deal from the GOP.
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And just for general information, you don’t test positive for the DISEASE. You test positive for the VIRUS and most that test positive for the VIRUS never develop the DISEASE.
The DISEASE COVID-19 is ‘diagnosed’, not ‘tested’.
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John Cardillo @johncardillo
Herman Cain survived stage 4 colon cancer, and as a result had a comprised immune system as do most cancer survivors who undergo treatment.
Shame on those blaming Trump's Tulsa rally. There's no basement to the depravity of these people.
11:09 AM · Jul 30, 2020
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@mountaineer
No one really knows for sure how Mr. Cain contracted COVID. Maybe the Tulsa rally, maybe standing in line at the supermarket checkout too close to someone who was COVID positive, who knows. All this arguing over where he caught it is really ridiculous in my unsophisticated opinion.
But yes, as a cancer survivor plus at his age, he was far more likely to die from COVID if he contracted it and that's what happened. Should he have stayed home from the rally? Well, I can understand not wanting to be confined at home. I did that for about 12 weeks because I am high risk but by the middle of May, I had had enough. This morning I had breakfast with someone also at high risk. My friend and I are both old; she has emphysema while I have diabetes, heart and kidney issues, etc. etc. etc. But dang it, enough is enough with these lockdowns. Forcing people to stay at home away from the activities they enjoy and the loved ones they want to be close to is just going to drive them off the deep end. I'm firmly convinced more people will die from suicide resulting from the intense mental pressure of being confined so long than by the virus itself.
So enough with this business of blaming Mr. Cain for his own demise or Trump for holding the rally Cain attended. A good man is gone from us. Who the hell cares how he contracted COVID? Can't people just say rest in peace or say nothing at all and be done with it?
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That was a recruitment of Covid-infected individuals for attending the Trump rally in Tulsa which Herman Cain attended.
so....murder?
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A lengthy Twitter tribute to Herman Cain from his former campaign spokes person, https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2020/07/30/they-didnt-know-him-i-did-ellen-carmichael-tweets-heartbreaking-yet-lovely-thread-remembering-herman-cain/ . Excerpting it would not do it justice.
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No personal attacks.
Save the political discussion for the proper forums.
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No personal attacks.
Save the political discussion for the proper forums.
Is this one of those who died and made you god things?
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@mountaineer
No one really knows for sure how Mr. Cain contracted COVID. Maybe the Tulsa rally, maybe standing in line at the supermarket checkout too close to someone who was COVID positive, who knows. All this arguing over where he caught it is really ridiculous in my unsophisticated opinion.
But yes, as a cancer survivor plus at his age, he was far more likely to die from COVID if he contracted it and that's what happened. Should he have stayed home from the rally? Well, I can understand not wanting to be confined at home. I did that for about 12 weeks because I am high risk but by the middle of May, I had had enough. This morning I had breakfast with someone also at high risk. My friend and I are both old; she has emphysema while I have diabetes, heart and kidney issues, etc. etc. etc. But dang it, enough is enough with these lockdowns. Forcing people to stay at home away from the activities they enjoy and the loved ones they want to be close to is just going to drive them off the deep end. I'm firmly convinced more people will die from suicide resulting from the intense mental pressure of being confined so long than by the virus itself.
So enough with this business of blaming Mr. Cain for his own demise or Trump for holding the rally Cain attended. A good man is gone from us. Who the hell cares how he contracted COVID? Can't people just say rest in peace or say nothing at all and be done with it?
Cain was also traveling around Arizona—where and while cases were rising rapidly—a few days before he got sick.
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Is this one of those who died and made you god things?
@bigheadfred
AFAIK,nobody has been claiming Herman Cain was a deity,but he was a good man and a conservative,and the fact that he was a prominent black man exposed the lie that all Republicans/Conservatives are racists.
He is going to be missed for both reasons,and more.
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Cain was also traveling around Arizona—where and while cases were rising rapidly—a few days before he got sick.
@jmyrlefuller
I am no doctor and don't play one on teebee,but I think there can be little doubt that both his age and the fact that he has been battling cancer and been getting chemo treatments had a lot to do with him taking sick and dying. I can tell you from personal experience that chemo will kick your ass and make you as weak as a baby,and him being in his 70's meant he was probably weaker than most due to his age alone. Age AND chemo is a killer.
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A lengthy Twitter tribute to Herman Cain from his former campaign spokes person, https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2020/07/30/they-didnt-know-him-i-did-ellen-carmichael-tweets-heartbreaking-yet-lovely-thread-remembering-herman-cain/ . Excerpting it would not do it justice.
Thank you for posting the link to the tribute. I'm not one to cry much, but that had me blubbering.
Cain was one of the good guys in politics where good guys are few and far between. Alas, not too many people will know it. The local news here was more focused on John Lewis' never-ending funeral; Cain's passing was barely mentioned.
Too bad this tribute to Cain can't be required reading. People should know more about him than they do.
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Thank you for posting the link to the tribute. I'm not one to cry much, but that had me blubbering.
Cain was one of the good guys in politics where good guys are few and far between. Alas, not too many people will know it. The local news here was more focused on John Lewis' never-ending funeral; Cain's passing was barely mentioned.
Too bad this tribute to Cain can't be required reading. People should know more about him than they do.
:yowsa: :amen:
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:yowsa: :amen:
Two significant Black politicans die. 99.9% of the coverage and adulation goes to one with a 40 year history of pushing socialist agenda and race baiting.
Sign of the times.
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Two significant Black politicans die. 99.9% of the coverage and adulation goes to one with a 40 year history of pushing socialist agenda and race baiting.
Sign of the times.
I guess so!
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Two significant Black politicans die. 99.9% of the coverage and adulation goes to one with a 40 year history of pushing socialist agenda and race baiting.
Sign of the times.
Brings up an interesting question: which person was better for black Americans...Lewis or Cain?
Naturally, all the libs/leftists would name Lewis as the personage who best helped black Americans progress and disdain Cain as an un-woke black person who was just a lackey for the white power structure.
The truth would be the opposite. By being a successful businessman and person who loved his country Cain was the far better example than someone like Lewis who did something honorable early in his life and the rest of his life did his best (or worst) to keep chains on the people he supposedly served.
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Brings up an interesting question: which person was better for black Americans...Lewis or Cain?
Naturally, all the libs/leftists would name Lewis as the personage who best helped black Americans progress and disdain Cain as an un-woke black person who was just a lackey for the white power structure.
The truth would be the opposite. By being a successful businessman and person who loved his country Cain was the far better example than someone like Lewis who did something honorable early in his life and the rest of his life did his best (or worst) to keep chains on the people he supposedly served.
:yowsa: Absolutely!
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Bill Mack
Songwriter and overnight radio host dies at 88
William Mack Smith Jr. spent most of his career as the "Midnight Cowboy," broadcasting overnights on WBAP in Fort Worth, Texas targeting an audience consisting mostly of truckers. His show ran from 1969 to the early 2000s, by which point he moved to satellite radio. (Mack would continue a country music countdown show in syndication for several years afterward.)
As a songwriter, Mack was planted firmly in the traditionalist country music vein and had several hits, most prominently "Drinking Champagne" for George Strait and "Blue" for LeAnn Rimes.
Mack died July 31 from a combination of old age-related diseases exacerbated by coronavirus.
Obituary from the Fort Worth Star-Telegram (https://www.star-telegram.com/news/local/fort-worth/article244634867.html)
Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Mack_(songwriter))
Bill Mack's "Blue" as performed by LeAnn Rimes (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GozdIQx1Wow#)
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Brings up an interesting question: which person was better for black Americans...Lewis or Cain?
Naturally, all the libs/leftists would name Lewis as the personage who best helped black Americans progress and disdain Cain as an un-woke black person who was just a lackey for the white power structure.
The truth would be the opposite. By being a successful businessman and person who loved his country Cain was the far better example than someone like Lewis who did something honorable early in his life and the rest of his life did his best (or worst) to keep chains on the people he supposedly served.
@goatprairie
If this were still the 1950's,it would be Cain by a margin so large it wouldn't have been considered to have been a serious contest. Back then the majority of blacks wanted to be accepted as equals and recognized as respectable people.
Then the 60's came along and the Dims bought/blackmailed the black preachers who were always the leadership,and things went all to hell for the blacks and everybody else. The left sucked them into welfare dependency instead of becoming successful independent citizens,and the resentment and hatred of white people became pretty much mandatory.
Sadly,I don't see it getting any better in my lifetime.
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Brings up an interesting question: which person was better for black Americans...Lewis or Cain?
Naturally, all the libs/leftists would name Lewis as the personage who best helped black Americans progress and disdain Cain as an un-woke black person who was just a lackey for the white power structure.
The truth would be the opposite. By being a successful businessman and person who loved his country Cain was the far better example than someone like Lewis who did something honorable early in his life and the rest of his life did his best (or worst) to keep chains on the people he supposedly served.
AFAIK, Lewis role in the 60s Civil Rights movement was significant and largely good. But if, "What have you done for me lately?" is the standard, Cain's corporate and philanthropic work in the past couple of decades has been infinitely better than the past two decades of Lewis' race-baiting.
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'Cocoon' actor Wilford Brimley dies age 85
Actor Wilford Brimley, best known for his roles in the Oscar-winning movie “Cocoon†and “The Firm†has died at the age of 85, U.S. media reported.
Utah-born Brimley found his way into the film industry through stunt work around horse riding, before taking on successively larger roles in his 40s and 50s which brought him fame playing sometimes gruff but lovable moustachioed seniors.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-people-brimley-idUSKBN24Y09O (https://www.reuters.com/article/us-people-brimley-idUSKBN24Y09O)
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Brimley also did tv commercials for Quaker Oats during the 1980s and 1990s. Rest in peace.
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'Cocoon' actor Wilford Brimley dies age 85
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-people-brimley-idUSKBN24Y09O (https://www.reuters.com/article/us-people-brimley-idUSKBN24Y09O)
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Brimley also did tv commercials for Quaker Oats during the 1980s and 1990s. Rest in peace.
To the younger generation, Brimley is best remembered for his commercials for Liberty Medical, reminding us to "check your blood sugar and check it often." The longtime diabetic popularized the unusual pronunciation of diabetes... "diabeetus."
Error 404 (Not Found)!!1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ljjr5TyVZ7c#)
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Wilfred Brimley as Postmaster General Henry Adkins:
Error 404 (Not Found)!!1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=On3cQ0sPvSY&feature=emb_logo#)
“I’m a postmaster but I’m also a general and it’s the job of a general to, by God, gets things DONE!â€
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I remember Mr Brimley for Quaker Oats. I forgot he was in “cocoonâ€
RIP.
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Everyone knows Wilford Brimley's true greatest moments . . .
Error 404 (Not Found)!!1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5h10jHYkVgQ#)
Error 404 (Not Found)!!1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJ2GB2nLyFA#)
RIP Pop Fischer.
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Really liked him in The Firm.
Error 404 (Not Found)!!1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tNEvCdVtk0#)
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Mr. Brimley also had a small (but memorable) role in "The Electric Horseman"...
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i loved him in "Absence of Malice" That was the first thing I recall seeing him in. KInd of like Bruce Campbell, playing himself.
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Scowcroft, a national security adviser for two GOP presidents, dies at 95
https://justthenews.com/government/white-house/scowcroft-national-security-adviser-two-gop-presidents-dies (https://justthenews.com/government/white-house/scowcroft-national-security-adviser-two-gop-presidents-dies)
Retired Air Force Lt. Gen. Brent Scowcroft, a national security adviser for two Republican presidents, died Thursday. He was 95.
Scowcroft served under Presidents Gerald Ford and George H.W. Bush. He died of natural causes at his home in Falls Church, Virginia, according to the Associated Press.
He was the only national security adviser to serve in two administrations. Ford appointed Scowcroft in 1975, after he retired from the Air Force. He served in the Bush administration from 1989 to 1993.
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I thought Scowcroft would have been long gone. He seemed ancient when I was a kid.
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Really liked him in The Firm.
But he played a bad guy. Totally out of his character.
He was also in John Carpenter's The Thing.
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-sTyajOVOdbY/VNjgU44SEtI/AAAAAAAAYIM/PP3xC8U7MAg/s640/The-Thing-Wilfred-Brimley.jpg)
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Raymond Allen, actor on 'Sanford and Son' and 'Good Times,' dies at 91
Raymond Allen, the actor known for his roles as Uncle Woody on "Sanford and Son" and Ned the Wino on "Good Times," died on Monday after a battle with respiratory issues. He was 91.
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Allen had been previously diagnosed with a bacterial infection in May, but tested negative for coronavirus. He had been treated at a health care facility in California since 2016 after struggling with pneumonia. He was found there unresponsive on Monday morning.
Along with playing Uncle Woody during the show's run from 1972 to 1977, he reprised the role for a spinoff series called "The Sanford Arms." He also worked on "The Love Boat," "The Jeffersons," "Wattstax," "What's Happening" and as Merle the Earl on "Starsky and Hutch." He stepped away from acting in 1985 due to medical issues.
https://www.nbcnews.com/pop-culture/pop-culture-news/raymond-allen-actor-sanford-son-good-times-dies-91-n1236410 (https://www.nbcnews.com/pop-culture/pop-culture-news/raymond-allen-actor-sanford-son-good-times-dies-91-n1236410)
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I thought Scowcroft would have been long gone. He seemed ancient when I was a kid.
Wow. 95. You’ve earned your rest sir.
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Sumner Redstone, Tenacious Media Mogul, Dies at 97
Sumner Redstone, the hard-charging mogul who parlayed his father’s New England drive-in theater business into a media empire that now flows into virtually every avenue of entertainment, has died. He was 97.
Redstone was the controlling shareholder of the recently merged ViacomCBS, and previously CBS Corp. and Viacom, who made famous the mantra “content is king.â€
His daughter and ViacomCBS chair Shari Redstone said: “My father led an extraordinary life that not only shaped entertainment as we know it today, but created an incredible family legacy. Through it all, we shared a great love for one another and he was a wonderful father, grandfather and great-grandfather. I am so proud to be his daughter and I will miss him always.
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/sumner-redstone-dead-cbs-viacom-media-mogul-was-97-622455 (https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/sumner-redstone-dead-cbs-viacom-media-mogul-was-97-622455)
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Robert Trump, youngest of the Trump siblings, dies at 71.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/robert-trump-dead (https://www.foxnews.com/politics/robert-trump-dead)
He had been in the ICU the previous month, of an unspecified "serious" neurological condition (possibly a stroke).
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Re posting this here,where I should have posted it to start with. Sorry about that.
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Melvin Hill
August 12, 2020 (Age 81)
Macon, Georgia
Special Forces / MACV-SOG
Word has been received that Melvin 'Sleepy' Hill passed away on or about August 12th, 2020. Awaiting obituary or more details.
Melvin Hill was born March 26, 1939 in Brooklyn, New York and joined the Army in 1955. During his career he served with
18th Regimental Combat Team (Airborne)
Airborne School - HALO instructor,
Special Forces (joined in 1964)
MAV-SOG (Two tours)
After his retirement Mel worked at the US General Services Administration, Washington,D.C. for 14 years.
Melvin Hill served two tours in Vietnam. His first tour was in 1966 with MACV-SOG, Khe Sanh, RVN, Spike Team Oklahoma. He returned in 1970 to MACV-SOG, Command and Control North (CCN), Recon Company, Recon Team Florida.
Melvin was the team leader for the first MACV-SOG, High Altitude Low Opening (HALO), Combat Jump. He was awarded the Silver Star for that HALO jump (28 November 1970).
The President of the United States of America, authorized by Act of Congress, July 8, 1918 (amended by act of July 25, 1963), takes pleasure in presenting the Silver Star to Sergeant First Class Melvin Hill, United States Army, for gallantry in action on 28 November 1970, while serving as Team Leader of a Combined Reconnaissance Team, Republic of Vietnam. At 0200 hours Sergeant Hill fearlessly led his team from the tail gate of a C-130 aircraft at an altitude of 17,000 feet on the first free fall into hostile territory in the history of the United States Army. This awesome free fall carried him through two cloud layers and light rain to penetrate deep in the enemy's rear area. The team landed in rugged terrain, but, due to the intensive training and rehearsal conducted by Sergeant Hill, sustained no injuries. Having cached their parachutes, the team moved through the high-threat area toward their target to accomplish their reconnaissance mission. During their five-day stay behind enemy lines, the team gathered sufficient hard intelligence to mark this mission a success. As a result of Sergeant Hill's training, motivation and fearless leadership, his team was able to accomplish a harrowing mission which testifies to his courage and moral fiber. Sergeant First Class Hill's conspicuous gallantry in action was in keeping with the highest traditions of the United States Army and reflects great credit upon himself and the military service.
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Re posting this here,where I should have posted it to start with. Sorry about that.
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Melvin Hill
August 12, 2020 (Age 81)
Macon, Georgia
Special Forces / MACV-SOG
Word has been received that Melvin 'Sleepy' Hill passed away on or about August 12th, 2020. Awaiting obituary or more details.
Melvin Hill was born March 26, 1939 in Brooklyn, New York and joined the Army in 1955. During his career he served with
18th Regimental Combat Team (Airborne)
Airborne School - HALO instructor,
Special Forces (joined in 1964)
MAV-SOG (Two tours)
After his retirement Mel worked at the US General Services Administration, Washington,D.C. for 14 years.
Melvin Hill served two tours in Vietnam. His first tour was in 1966 with MACV-SOG, Khe Sanh, RVN, Spike Team Oklahoma. He returned in 1970 to MACV-SOG, Command and Control North (CCN), Recon Company, Recon Team Florida.
Melvin was the team leader for the first MACV-SOG, High Altitude Low Opening (HALO), Combat Jump. He was awarded the Silver Star for that HALO jump (28 November 1970).
The President of the United States of America, authorized by Act of Congress, July 8, 1918 (amended by act of July 25, 1963), takes pleasure in presenting the Silver Star to Sergeant First Class Melvin Hill, United States Army, for gallantry in action on 28 November 1970, while serving as Team Leader of a Combined Reconnaissance Team, Republic of Vietnam. At 0200 hours Sergeant Hill fearlessly led his team from the tail gate of a C-130 aircraft at an altitude of 17,000 feet on the first free fall into hostile territory in the history of the United States Army. This awesome free fall carried him through two cloud layers and light rain to penetrate deep in the enemy's rear area. The team landed in rugged terrain, but, due to the intensive training and rehearsal conducted by Sergeant Hill, sustained no injuries. Having cached their parachutes, the team moved through the high-threat area toward their target to accomplish their reconnaissance mission. During their five-day stay behind enemy lines, the team gathered sufficient hard intelligence to mark this mission a success. As a result of Sergeant Hill's training, motivation and fearless leadership, his team was able to accomplish a harrowing mission which testifies to his courage and moral fiber. Sergeant First Class Hill's conspicuous gallantry in action was in keeping with the highest traditions of the United States Army and reflects great credit upon himself and the military service.
I guess I missed Melvin but he sounds like one hell of a man! May he rest in peace! He surely earned that.
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I guess I missed Melvin but he sounds like one hell of a man! May he rest in peace! He surely earned that.
@Bigun
That he was!
I never worked directly with him,but I did know him,was impressed with both his knowledge and his attitude,and never heard ONE single negative word about him from anyone.
More than anything else,I was impressed by the friends he had that knew him very well.
SF NCO's are people who tend to be harsh critics of anyone who doesn't perform at a very high level. You either did the job at a high level,or you discovered yourself going somewhere else with no warning.
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@Bigun
That he was!
I never worked directly with him,but I did know him,was impressed with both his knowledge and his attitude,and never heard ONE single negative word about him from anyone.
More than anything else,I was impressed by the friends he had that knew him very well.
SF NCO's are people who tend to be harsh critics of anyone who doesn't perform at a very high level. You either did the job at a high level,or you discovered yourself going somewhere else with no warning.
:patriot:
RIP, Sir.
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@Bigun
That he was!
I never worked directly with him,but I did know him,was impressed with both his knowledge and his attitude,and never heard ONE single negative word about him from anyone.
More than anything else,I was impressed by the friends he had that knew him very well.
SF NCO's are people who tend to be harsh critics of anyone who doesn't perform at a very high level. You either did the job at a high level,or you discovered yourself going somewhere else with no warning.
We are a fortunate nation indeed, that men of his caliber have been and still are on our side. :patriot:
R.I.P., Indeed.
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@Bigun
That he was!
I never worked directly with him,but I did know him,was impressed with both his knowledge and his attitude,and never heard ONE single negative word about him from anyone.
More than anything else,I was impressed by the friends he had that knew him very well.
SF NCO's are people who tend to be harsh critics of anyone who doesn't perform at a very high level. You either did the job at a high level,or you discovered yourself going somewhere else with no warning.
RIP sir.
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https://www.gofundme.com/f/funeral-expenses-for-melvin-hill?utm_medium=email&utm_source=customer&utm_campaign=p_email%2B5102-48hr-donor-share (https://www.gofundme.com/f/funeral-expenses-for-melvin-hill?utm_medium=email&utm_source=customer&utm_campaign=p_email%2B5102-48hr-donor-share)
Ok,this is a fund-raiser poll to pay the expenses to pay the expenses related to getting SFC (Ret) Melvin Hill buried
at Arlington National Cemetary. His Silver Star qualifies him for burial there,but there are expenses involved in getting him there and for all the prep work and the associated expenses.
Last I heard they were just a few thousand away from the target amount,and any money over that goes to the families of Special Operations soldiers who die in combat for educational expenses.
@Cyber Liberty Cyber,if you think this is over the line,feel free to delete it. No hard feelings.
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https://www.gofundme.com/f/funeral-expenses-for-melvin-hill?utm_medium=email&utm_source=customer&utm_campaign=p_email%2B5102-48hr-donor-share (https://www.gofundme.com/f/funeral-expenses-for-melvin-hill?utm_medium=email&utm_source=customer&utm_campaign=p_email%2B5102-48hr-donor-share)
Ok,this is a fund-raiser poll to pay the expenses to pay the expenses related to getting SFC (Ret) Melvin Hill buried
at Arlington National Cemetary. His Silver Star qualifies him for burial there,but there are expenses involved in getting him there and for all the prep work and the associated expenses.
Last I heard they were just a few thousand away from the target amount,and any money over that goes to the families of Special Operations soldiers who die in combat for educational expenses.
@Cyber Liberty Cyber,if you think this is over the line,feel free to delete it. No hard feelings.
Fine with me, @sneakypete!
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https://www.gofundme.com/f/funeral-expenses-for-melvin-hill?utm_medium=email&utm_source=customer&utm_campaign=p_email%2B5102-48hr-donor-share (https://www.gofundme.com/f/funeral-expenses-for-melvin-hill?utm_medium=email&utm_source=customer&utm_campaign=p_email%2B5102-48hr-donor-share)
Ok,this is a fund-raiser poll to pay the expenses to pay the expenses related to getting SFC (Ret) Melvin Hill buried
at Arlington National Cemetary. His Silver Star qualifies him for burial there,but there are expenses involved in getting him there and for all the prep work and the associated expenses.
Last I heard they were just a few thousand away from the target amount,and any money over that goes to the families of Special Operations soldiers who die in combat for educational expenses.
@Cyber Liberty Cyber,if you think this is over the line,feel free to delete it. No hard feelings.
I kicked in a few $$. Can't think of a better place for it to go.
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Dale Hawerchuk
Hockey Hall of Famer dies at 57
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b2/Dale_Hawerchuk.jpg/230px-Dale_Hawerchuk.jpg)
Hawerchuk played 16 seasons in the National Hockey League from 1981 to 1997. The first nine years of his career were spent with the original Winnipeg Jets, who had drafted him first overall. In Winnipeg, he helped bring the small-market World Hockey Association transplant to respectability. In 1990, he was traded to the Buffalo Sabres in exchange for another future Hall of Famer, Phil Housley, as part of a package deal; with Buffalo, Hawerchuk continued to have modest success for the next five seasons before finishing his career with brief stops in St. Louis and Philadelphia. He was inducted into the Hockey Hall of Fame in 2001, his second year of eligibility.
He spent most of his post-playing career coaching junior hockey before a stomach cancer diagnosis ended his coaching career last year. He died from a recurrence of the cancer August 18.
Obituary from USA Today (https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nhl/2020/08/18/dale-hawerchuk-hall-famer-and-former-no-1-pick-dies-57/2751950001/)
Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dale_Hawerchuk)
Career stats (http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=2199)
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I kicked in a few $$. Can't think of a better place for it to go.
@Bigun
Thank you!
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Chadwick Boseman dies of cancer at 43
Ryan Pearson | 7:13 pm PDT, Friday, August 28, 2020
LOS ANGELES (AP) — Actor Chadwick Boseman, who played Black icons Jackie Robinson and James Brown before finding fame as the regal Black Panther in the Marvel cinematic universe, died Friday of cancer, his representative said. He was 43.
Boseman died at his home in the Los Angeles area with his wife and family by his side, his publicist Nicki Fioravante told The Associated Press.
https://www.sfgate.com/news/article/Black-Panther-star-Chadwick-Boseman-dies-of-15523475.php (https://www.sfgate.com/news/article/Black-Panther-star-Chadwick-Boseman-dies-of-15523475.php)
Great actor. I especially liked him in Draft Day as Vontae Mack.
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Chadwick Boseman dies of cancer at 43
Ryan Pearson | 7:13 pm PDT, Friday, August 28, 2020
LOS ANGELES (AP) — Actor Chadwick Boseman, who played Black icons Jackie Robinson and James Brown before finding fame as the regal Black Panther in the Marvel cinematic universe, died Friday of cancer, his representative said. He was 43.
Boseman died at his home in the Los Angeles area with his wife and family by his side, his publicist Nicki Fioravante told The Associated Press.
https://www.sfgate.com/news/article/Black-Panther-star-Chadwick-Boseman-dies-of-15523475.php (https://www.sfgate.com/news/article/Black-Panther-star-Chadwick-Boseman-dies-of-15523475.php)
Great actor. I especially liked him in Draft Day as Vontae Mack.
@Hoodat
43 is just too damn young to go.
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Cathy Smith
John Belushi's killer dies at 73
Smith had two brushes with near-infamy in her life. The Canadian began as a backing singer in various bands, including Gordon Lightfoot (whom she briefly dated) and The Band. Lightfoot dedicated her song "Sundown" to her, and she also claimed The Band's hit "The Weight" was also based on her. Neither song portrayed her in particularly flattering light, though Lightfoot was later more conciliatory.
A few years later, Smith had emerged as a drug dealer to the stars, among them the Rolling Stones, Hoyt Axton, Robin Williams and Robert De Niro. It was her encounter with John Belushi that made her the most infamous: at the Chateau Marmont on March 5, 1982, Smith administered an overdose of cocaine and heroin to Belushi, killing him. She served 15 months in jail on a no-contest plea bargain in 1986 and was deported to her native Canada, where she lived out her life quietly as a secretary.
Smith died August 18 of chronic lung failure.
Obituary from Deadline, via the New York Post (https://nypost.com/2020/08/28/cathy-smith-who-injected-john-belushi-with-fatal-overdose-dies-at-73/)
Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cathy_Smith)
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Smith made two errors, Belushi and DeNiro.
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@Hoodat
43 is just too damn young to go.
Agree. Shame. Seems from the obit he left a wife and children. RIP.
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I hadn't seen Chadwick Boseman in any movies, but am saddened by his having to battle colon cancer for four years. Cancer stinks.
According to the Daily Mail: "Boseman is survived by his wife and a parent and had no children, his publicist said. He had kept his diagnosis and much of his personal life under wraps." More, plus photos (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8676047/Black-Panther-actor-Chadwick-Boseman-dies-43-battle-cancer.html).
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I hadn't seen Chadwick Boseman in any movies, but am saddened by his having to battle colon cancer for four years. Cancer stinks.
Boseman was magnificent in . . .
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/0f/42_film_poster.jpg)
The sad irony: Boseman died on the same day baseball had its delayed annual commemoration of Jackie Robinson.
RIP.
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I hadn't seen Chadwick Boseman in any movies,
@mountaineer
Me,either. My skin is the "wrong" color to go to one of his films. Too much danger of attack by thugs when the movie is over.
but am saddened by his having to battle colon cancer for four years. Cancer stinks.
I am saddened to hear of his death after finding out he was able to accomplish so much and work so hard while doing it,and with nobody having a clue he was even sick,never mind dying. You KNOW he would have never gotten any of those starring roles if the producers had any idea he was so sick.
According to the Daily Mail: "Boseman is survived by his wife and a parent and had no children, his publicist said. He had kept his diagnosis and much of his personal life under wraps."
Sounds like he was a homosexual.
Not that it makes any difference one way or another. He was a good actor or he wasn't,and he was a man determined to fight the odds,or he wasn't. In both cases he comes down on the winning side.
Good on him. We need more people like him,instead of the seeming hordes of whining parasites we seem to be getting.
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Sounds like he was a homosexual.
Not that it makes any difference one way or another.
Boseman and his wife actually dated for several years before they married last year. (He proposed to her while they were on a vacation in Malibu, Newsweek says.) From everything I've read of him, he was simply not the type to seek publicity for every last facet of his life. There's something admirable about a man who comes before the public only by way of his professional work and keeps his personal self to himself, away from the cameras and the press, without indulging in piles and piles of self-promotion. I suppose it's like the way John Coltrane demurred from liner notes on his album releases in the last few years of his life: "I'd rather you didn't include notes," he once told his producer Bob Thiele. "Let the music speak for itself."
The Bosemans rarely stepped out into the limelight until he made Black Panther; their relationship wasn't even widely known until his grandmother confirmed it to a magazine the year before they married.
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I'd never heard of Chadwick Boseman until today.
But then... I no longer seem to have much interest in blacks, in films or otherwise. Sorry if that offends you.
Addendum:
I'll still root for a black contestants on Jeopardy and Wheel of Fortune, if they know how to "play the game"...
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Chadwick Boseman dies of cancer at 43
Ryan Pearson | 7:13 pm PDT, Friday, August 28, 2020
LOS ANGELES (AP) — Actor Chadwick Boseman, who played Black icons Jackie Robinson and James Brown before finding fame as the regal Black Panther in the Marvel cinematic universe, died Friday of cancer, his representative said. He was 43.
Boseman died at his home in the Los Angeles area with his wife and family by his side, his publicist Nicki Fioravante told The Associated Press.
https://www.sfgate.com/news/article/Black-Panther-star-Chadwick-Boseman-dies-of-15523475.php (https://www.sfgate.com/news/article/Black-Panther-star-Chadwick-Boseman-dies-of-15523475.php)
Great actor. I especially liked him in Draft Day as Vontae Mack.
Damn shame, he did a lot of charity work with Childhood cancer patients.
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John Thompson, college basketball coach, dies at 78.
The Team 980 & 95.9FM @team980
Breaking News: Legendary Georgetown Coach John Thompson has passed away. The Hall of Famer became the first African-American head coach to win the NCAA National Championship, leading the Hoyas to the 1984 title. Coach Thompson will be greatly missed.
3:23 AM · Aug 31, 2020
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John Thompson, college basketball coach, dies at 78.(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Egu2NkPXsAENwqB?format=jpg&name=small)
I didn't have any great dislike for Thompson. But after years and years of poor/mediocre teams, the hiring of Thompson at Georgetown did one big thing. He almost immediately reversed the losing and transformed them into championship-caliber teams.
How did he do it?
Up until his hiring Georgetown fielded mostly all-white teams with a few black players here and there.
Thompson stopped recruiting white players and almost exclusively recruited black players. There were only few benchwarming white players on his teams over the years. As a longtime follower of college basketball, I cannot remember one decent white player on any of Thompson's teams.
Georgetown was not a poor academic school. It still has a very good rep in a number of fields.
How did all those black players manage to make it through a good academic school?
I seriously doubt more than a few them had great SATs or ACTs.
But Georgetown was not the first university that decided to become a champion sports school by recruiting athletes with questionable (to put it mildly) academic records.
Even after Thompson left Georgetown, there were few or no white players.
The present coach HOFer Patrick Ewing was hired a few years ago and started recruiting white players.
So was Thompson a racist for not recruiting white players? No matter how dominant black players are in basketball, there are still a number of good white players coming out of high schools every year.
You'd think Thompson could have found one.
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A little anecdote about one of Thompson's players, with regard to the matter of academics: Mr. M was once told by a woman (his cousin's mother-in-law) who taught Patrick Ewing at Cambridge Rindge and Latin School (high school), that Ewing didn't come close to having the academic prowess to meet the graduation requirements. The school gave him a diploma anyway, so he could move on to his college career at Georgetown.
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Tom Seaver, https://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/mets/ny-tom-seaver-obituary-20200903-fyusabaogjepzf6uixn6476k5u-story.html (https://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/mets/ny-tom-seaver-obituary-20200903-fyusabaogjepzf6uixn6476k5u-story.html)
The long goodbye has ended. The Mets’ “Franchise†is gone.
Tom Seaver, the greatest of all Mets who dropped out of public life in March of 2019 after being diagnosed with dementia died early Monday. Accoring to family sources, Seaver, 75, died peacefully at his home in Calistoga, Calif., from complications from Lyme disease, dementia and COVID-19.
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RIP, The Franchise . . .
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Seaver, 75, died peacefully at his home in Calistoga, Calif., from complications from Lyme disease, dementia and COVID-19.
@PeteS in CA
Ahhh,another tragic COVID-19 death!
Here was a pro-athlete te,struck down in the prime of his life due to Trump!
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RIP, The Franchise . . .
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Another great, gone. RIP. See you in Cooperstown Sir. Hopefully soon.
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Cardinals legend Lou Brock dies Sunday afternoon at 81 (https://www.stltoday.com/sports/baseball/professional/cardinals-legend-lou-brock-dies-sunday-afternoon-at-81/article_1fb0067d-7526-5d8c-b92d-4896a9b91e6b.html#utm_campaign=blox&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social)
By Rick Hummel
St. Louis Post-Dispatch
St. Louis Cardinals' Hall of Famer Lou Brock, who had fought through a number of medical conditions in recent years, died Sunday afternoon. He was 81.
Brock will be remembered for many accomplishments. He was the National League’s all-time leader in stolen bases with 938. He had 3,023 hits. He was a first-ballot electee into the National Baseball Hall of Fame and Museum.
But he may be known mostly as the centerpiece of what was perceived as the greatest trade in Cardinals history. Or just greatest baseball trade ever. On June 15, 1964, the Cardinals acquired Brock, a raw, 24-year-old outfielder from the Chicago Cubs in a trade that cost them popular righthander Ernie Broglio, who had been an 18-game winner for them the prior season although he was 3-5 in 1964 and perhaps injured.
Immediately, the trade was not well received by the Cardinals’ players. "We thought it was the worst trade ever,†said Hall of Fame pitcher Bob Gibson.
After all, Southern University product Brock had batted only .263, .258 and .251 in his 2 ½ years with the Cubs, albeit hitting some prodigious home runs, including one to dead center field in New York’s historic Polo Grounds.
But Brock, not counted on for power but as a table setter for the Cardinals, would hit .348 the rest of the 1964 season and steal 33 bases as the Cardinals rallied to win the National League pennant on the last day of the regular season and went on to beat the New York Yankees in a seven-game World Series to bring St. Louis its first World Series title since 1946 . . .
Unlikely trivia: Power hitter though he wasn't when Lou Brock was a Cub he became only the third man in baseball history to hit a home run to either side of the Polo Grounds center field bleachers---468 feet from home plate---when he did it off the Mets in 1962. (The two previous: Luke Easter, in a 1948 Negro Leagues game; and, Joe Adcock of the Milwaukee Braves in 1953.)
Brock was green enough at the time, he said later, that when he saw the second base ump giving the signal for a home run he thought it meant he had a shot at an inside-the-park home run. Brock had no idea what he did until his teammates mobbed him back in the dugout and fellow Hall of Famer Ron Santo hollered, "Did you see where that ball went? I needed binoculars!"
The following night, the Braves came to the Polo Grounds to play the Mets---and Hall of Famer Henry Aaron hit one to just about the same spot where Brock's shot traveled.
RIP Lou.
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Two great baseball players dying in the same week. I hope this one doesn’t go in threes.
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Converse came out with a Lou Brock baseball tennis shoe when I was a kid in little league.
I had a pair. They weren't any more expensive than the regular Chuck Taylor Converse, as I recall.
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Converse came out with a Lou Brock baseball tennis shoe when I was a kid in little league.
I had a pair. They weren't any more expensive than the regular Chuck Taylor Converse, as I recall.
Yeah, but CHucks were expensive, maybe $12-14 when you could get a cheap pair of sneakers for $2.50
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Yeah, but CHucks were expensive, maybe $12-14 when you could get a cheap pair of sneakers for $2.50
Converse sneakers were the gold standard back in those days. I never owned my own pair but got my older brother's pair when he got new ones.
I was convinced lacking proper brand name sneaks prevented me from being the great, super athlete I was destined to be. 8888crybaby
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Converse sneakers were the gold standard back in those days. I never owned my own pair but got my older brother's pair when he got new ones.
I was convinced lacking proper brand name sneaks prevented me from being the great, super athlete I was destined to be. 8888crybaby
What? Your PF Flyers didn't help you 'run faster and jump higher'?
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What? Your PF Flyers didn't help you 'run faster and jump higher'?
Spalding Hightops were good enough for me... And you could roof in them too.
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I was convinced lacking proper brand name sneaks prevented me from being the great, super athlete I was destined to be. 8888crybaby
@goatprairie
You bought into that rumour too? wink777
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Spalding Hightops were good enough for me... And you could roof in them too.
I had a pair of Chucks that got through a year of gym class, and made it through two months of work on the seawall crew before they shelled out. In all fairness, lesser sneakers would fall apart in two or three weeks.
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Yeah, but CHucks were expensive, maybe $12-14 when you could get a cheap pair of sneakers for $2.50
Liberty Specials were $2.00 and would last the whole school year and into summer.
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Dame Diana Rigg: Actress dies aged 82
Actress Dame Diana Rigg, famous for roles including Emma Peel in TV series The Avengers and Olenna Tyrell in Game of Thrones, has died at the age of 82.
"She died peacefully early this morning. She was at home with her family who have asked for privacy at this difficult time," her agent said.
Dame Diana is also known for playing Tracy, the only woman who became Mrs James Bond, in 1969 film On Her Majesty's Secret Service.
She also appeared in ITV's Victoria.
https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-54106509 (https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-54106509)
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I never saw Game of Thrones, but I did catch an episode or two of The Avengers.
RIP, Dame Diana.
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Dame Diana Rigg: Actress dies aged 82
https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-54106509 (https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-54106509)
My folks always watched The Avengers, dad loved Ms Rigg. RIP.
I was appalled to learn Patrick McKnee was an avowed nudist later in life.
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I also forgot she was in a James Bond film! On Her Majesty’s Secret Service.
It’s quite an honor to be a Bond girl, huh?
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Dame Diana Rigg: Actress dies aged 82
https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-54106509 (https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-54106509)
I think I saw every episode of Avengers, the stuff of teenage boys fantasies.
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What? Your PF Flyers didn't help you 'run faster and jump higher'?
No. In fact, I didn't even wear PF Flyers. Or U.S. Keds. I remember a commercial from those days showing some kid putting on a pair of U.S. Keds and whizzing around the block at supersonic speed. I wanted to be able to do that too.
My mother got me the cheapest sneakers available. I don't know how much PF Flyers or Keds cost, but it must have been out of our price range.
Strangely enough, there were kids who wore the same cheap sneakers as I did but could run faster than me. I couldn't figure that out at the time.
I had about average or a little above average speed. But my three brothers were all very fast and could run rings around me. Even while wearing the same cheap sneakers as I did.
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Yeah, but CHucks were expensive, maybe $12-14 when you could get a cheap pair of sneakers for $2.50
I'm thinking these were about $10.00
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Rest in peace, Mrs. Peel.
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No. In fact, I didn't even wear PF Flyers. Or U.S. Keds. I remember a commercial from those days showing some kid putting on a pair of U.S. Keds and whizzing around the block at supersonic speed. I wanted to be able to do that too.
I used to wear Keds boat sneakers, as they called them in those years. The most comfortable sneakers I ever had when I was growing up. Especially living as I did in a beach town from third grade through high school graduation. Perfect for walking to the beach (I lived ten blocks from it) or on the boardwalk.
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I also forgot she was in a James Bond film! On Her Majesty’s Secret Service.
It’s quite an honor to be a Bond girl, huh?
She was in many enjoyable movies and plays but who could forget her wonderful work with Vincent Price in Theater of Blood?
I thought she always presented herself as a classy lady and think it would have been great to just sit and talk with her. Anyone that can say things like this quote from her has no delusions about who they are.
A smoker from the age of 18, Rigg was still smoking 20 cigarettes a day in 2009. By December 2017, she had stopped smoking after serious illness led to heart surgery, a cardiac ablation, two months earlier. A devout Christian, she commented that: "My heart had stopped ticking during the procedure, so I was up there and The Good Lord must have said, 'Send the old bag down again, I'm not having her yet!'".
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https://www.nj.com/hudson/2020/09/kool-the-gang-co-founder-ronald-khalis-bell-dies-at-68.html (https://www.nj.com/hudson/2020/09/kool-the-gang-co-founder-ronald-khalis-bell-dies-at-68.html)
Kool & the Gang co-founder Ronald ‘Khalis’ Bell dies at 68
LOS ANGELES — Ronald “Khalis†Bell, a co-founder, singer and producer of the group Kool & the Gang, has died. He was 68.
Bell, who was born in Ohio but grew up in Jersey City, died at his home in the U.S. Virgin Islands Wednesday morning with his wife by his side, publicist Sujata Murthy said. The cause of death has not been released.
Kool & the Gang grew from jazz roots in the 1960s to become one of the major groups of the 1970s, blending jazz, funk, R&B and pop. After a brief downturn, the group enjoyed a return to stardom in the ’80s.
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I also forgot she was in a James Bond film! On Her Majesty’s Secret Service.
It’s quite an honor to be a Bond girl, huh?
A particular honor given that her character, Tracy, was the only Bond girl that James Bond ever married. She ended up assassinated by a Blofeld henchman at the end, but still...
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I never saw Game of Thrones, but I did catch an episode or two of The Avengers.
RIP, Dame Diana.
@Gefn
Why do you insist on punishing yourself?
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Dame Diana Rigg: Actress dies aged 82
https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-54106509 (https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-54106509)
Had huge 10 year old crushes on Diana Rigg and Elizabeth Montgomery.
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Had huge 10 year old crushes on Diana Rigg and Elizabeth Montgomery.
...and Barbara Eden...
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...and Barbara Eden...
Even my dad liked Jeannie! Totally off topic but back then they could show her or Mary Ann’s belly buttons. Look how far TV has come....(not to mention couples were in separate beds)
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Even my dad liked Jeannie! Totally off topic but back then they could show her or Mary Ann’s belly buttons. Look how far TV has come....(not to mention couples were in separate beds)
The separate bed thing goes back many decades back to the thirties when Hollywood enacted their stupid morality codes.
Every kid could look into their parent's bedrooms and only see one big bed. So why did Hollyweird and the tv industry think that showing married couples using twin beds was a great idea?
Maybe pressure from religious groups which were far more powerful in those days had a lot to do with it.
Catholics had the Legion of Decency which rated films from A which were "wholesome" family films to C for condemned. The things that could get a movie condemned would make people fall down laughing today. I think one movie got condemned for using the word "pregnant."
Needless to say, I never saw any condemned movies in my youth, and my old man threw a fit when I went with a friend to see "From Russia With Love" which was rated B for morally objectionable. Boy, those Bond girls...hubba, hubba.
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@Gefn
@goatprairie
The "twin beds" thing made me think of the Dick Van Dyke Show and later, the Mary Tyler Moore Show. In the latter, Mary was originally supposed to be a divorcee, but I guess someone at the network thought that was morally objectionable. So the character was portrayed as having broken off her engagement.
I do remember the Legion of Decency codes and I also remember my devout Catholic mother throwing a hissy fit when I went to the movies as a kid to see a few that were less than A rated. At the time there were two movie houses in the neighborhood. I'd tell my mother I was going to the one that was showing an A rated movie, but actually, I went to the one showing a B or C rated movie. The theaters didn't really care that I might be too young for what they were showing; so long as I forked over the 50 cents to see the picture, they'd still let me in.
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@Gefn
@goatprairie
The "twin beds" thing made me think of the Dick Van Dyke Show and later, the Mary Tyler Moore Show. In the latter, Mary was originally supposed to be a divorcee, but I guess someone at the network thought that was morally objectionable. So the character was portrayed as having broken off her engagement.
It wasn't just the "Divorce" thing. They didn't want anyone thinking she had divorced Dick Van Dyke.
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@Gefn
@goatprairie
The "twin beds" thing made me think of the Dick Van Dyke Show and later, the Mary Tyler Moore Show. In the latter, Mary was originally supposed to be a divorcee, but I guess someone at the network thought that was morally objectionable. So the character was portrayed as having broken off her engagement.
I do remember the Legion of Decency codes and I also remember my devout Catholic mother throwing a hissy fit when I went to the movies as a kid to see a few that were less than A rated. At the time there were two movie houses in the neighborhood. I'd tell my mother I was going to the one that was showing an A rated movie, but actually, I went to the one showing a B or C rated movie. The theaters didn't really care that I might be too young for what they were showing; so long as I forked over the 50 cents to see the picture, they'd still let me in.
I can't remember my two movie houses that existed where I was growing up ever showed anything that would have been condemnation-worthy.
I didn't have the money to see them anyway until I started doing part-time work in my mid-teens. After the mid-sixties all sorts of things started showing up on movie screens.
We had an outdoor movie theater (yippee!!) close to my house that showed r-rated movies. Couldn't hear the audio, but the pictures on the screen sure were interesting. It's a wonder they didn't close them down for "immorality" before they went out of business thanks to vcrs and video-tapes.
Now they're coming back because of the virus. Weird times.
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...and Barbara Eden...
@Smokin Joe
Did you ever see 'The Seven faces of Dr. Lao'? A pleasant little Tony Randall movie, but the Pan scene with Barbara Eden? Steamy! Well at least in 1964.
Error 404 (Not Found)!!1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MtJHRAbQczY&ab_channel=recutGOTfilms#)
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Stevie Lee Richardson
Midget wrestler also known as Puppet the Psycho Dwarf dies at 54
Richardson had two particular traits that may have doomed him to an early death: he had dwarfism, and he chose professional wrestling as a vocation. Wrestling as "Puppet the Psycho Dwarf," Richarsdon was a founding member of the Half Pint Brawlers, a particularly brutal hardcore midget wrestling circuit that had its own program on Spike TV. Before founding that organization, he briefly wrestled for TNA before that circuit broke through to its moment of prominence.
Richardson died September 9, unexpectedly of unknown causes.
Obituary from E! (https://www.eonline.com/news/1187072/jackass-star-and-wrestler-stevie-lee-dead-at-54)
Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Half_Pint_Brawlers)
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Pioneering Navy Captain Kathleen Byerly Bruyere dies at 74
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Byerly, a career enlistee of the United States Navy, served from 1966 to 1994, eventually rising to the rank of Captain. Her extensive service was perhaps overshadowed by a single lawsuit in which she argued, successfully, that a federal law prohibiting women from combat aircraft or ships to be used in war violated the U.S. Constitution. It was this case that earned her Person of the Year honors, alongside several other feminists, from Time magazine in 1975 (though the magazine never informed her of her selection). Though she won the lawsuit, she never served on a warship afterward.
She died September 3 from brain cancer.
Obituary (https://taskandpurpose.com/unsung-heroes/navy-captain-kathleen-bruyere-obituary)
Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kathleen_Byerly)
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Three full stripes, Lt. Commander?
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Three full stripes, Lt. Commander?
I think her rank was Commander at the time that picture was taken (1983 according to Wikipedia), before she was promoted to captain.
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https://www.npr.org/2020/09/16/913619163/stanley-crouch-towering-jazz-critic-dead-at-74 (https://www.npr.org/2020/09/16/913619163/stanley-crouch-towering-jazz-critic-dead-at-74)
Stanley Crouch, Towering Jazz Critic, Dead At 74
Stanley Crouch, the lauded and fiery jazz critic, has died. According to an announcement by his wife, Gloria Nixon-Crouch, Stanley Crouch died at the Calvary Hospital in New York on Wednesday, following nearly a decade of serious health issues.
Crouch was born in Los Angeles on Dec. 14, 1945. He read voraciously, watched the Watts riots up close, took up jazz drums, published Black Nationalist poetry, led guerilla-theater troupes and taught literature at Pomona College, all before moving to New York in 1975 and becoming a cultural critic at the Village Voice. His first collection, Notes of a Hanging Judge: Essays and Reviews, 1979-1989, is a classic of American letters, with disquisitions on diverse topics like Jesse Jackson, filmmaker Ousmane Sembene and painter Bob Thompson, before wrapping up with a panoramic diary of the Umbria Jazz Festival in Italy. The volume got wide play, was a finalist for the National Book Critics Circle Award for criticism, and established Crouch as a force to be reckoned with. Later books included a novel, Don't the Moon Look Lonesome?, which received a close read from John Updike in the New Yorker, and a well-received biography, Kansas City Lightning: The Rise and Times of Charlie Parker. His many honors included a MacArthur Foundation "genius" grant and a NEA Jazz Masters Fellowship.
After publicly renouncing Black Nationalism in 1979, Crouch strove to place himself in the tradition of Ralph Ellison and, especially, Albert Murray, thinkers through which the idea of embracing Blackness and embracing American-ness became one and the same. Crouch felt he was extending Ellison's and Murray's work when attacking important artists, such as Spike Lee and Toni Morrison, for "doing the race thing." At the same time, Crouch fought for what he considered a Black aesthetic in jazz, and his 2003 JazzTimes essay "Putting the White Man in Charge" pairs neatly with Amiri Baraka's famous 1960 polemic, "Jazz and the White Critic." His outsized opinions were rendered in scalding, pugilistic prose – he even acquired a reputation for being willing to literally fight someone for disagreeing with him.
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https://www.npr.org/2020/09/16/913619163/stanley-crouch-towering-jazz-critic-dead-at-74 (https://www.npr.org/2020/09/16/913619163/stanley-crouch-towering-jazz-critic-dead-at-74)
Stanley Crouch, Towering Jazz Critic, Dead At 74
I have two anthologies of his criticism . . .
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. . . and he also wrote one of the best analyses I ever read about the dilemna of John Coltrane:
From Coltrane Derailed, Jazz Times, 1 Sept. 2002:
. . . [T]here are persistent questions buried deep in the John Coltrane mythos, ones that are hidden in the background of the discussion of his music because few professionals want to say publicly what they really think of him and the albums he made in the summer and fall of 1965 with augmented personnel—Kulu Se Mama, Ascension, Sun Ship, Om and Meditations—and the post-Classic Quartet LPs he made up until the end.
Before McCoy Tyner left the band in late 1965—unable to deal with the many squeakers, howlers, shriekers and honkers his boss invited onto the bandstand—he asked Coltrane what he was doing. But the pianist could get no answer in musical terms, something that had not happened before . . . there are also rumors about hallucinogenic drugs, which intensify narcissism and spiritual fantasies . . .
What could have led one of the intellectual giants of jazz—one of the great bluesmen, one of the most original swingers and a master of the ballad—into an arena so emotionally narrow and so far removed from his roots and his accomplishments? While Interstellar Space, the 1967 duets sessions with Ali, are models of their kind, and Coltrane’s melody statements are often majestic, the other post-mid-1965 recordings, whether studio or live, are largely one-dimensional and do not vaguely compare to what Coltrane accomplished with his Classic Quartet.
What Coltrane’s late music does prove, however, is that he might well have been caught up in the “hysteria of the times,†as Cecil Taylor once wrote of him. During that period of the ’60s, everything traditional was under fire, from politics to ethnic identity, for both rational and irrational reasons. It is not impossible to believe that Coltrane was attracted to the romantic fantasies about Africa that black nationalists attempted to impose on both Negroes at large and Negro artists. This was when Negroes sought what should now be recognized as a laughable version of “authenticity†that never assessed jazz itself with any actual depth.
In fact, much black nationalism was really about enormous self-hatred and contempt for Negro-American culture. Its vision misled certain black people into denying the depth of the indelibly rich domestic influences black and white people had had on each other, regardless of all that had been wrought by slavery and segregation. The greatest of John Coltrane’s music reflects that confluence of races and influences.
. . . Coltrane was as much an heir to all that Bach and his descendants gave the world as he was to the blues. He was an heir to all that Negroes had done with the saxophone and what he admired in Stan Getz. None of Coltrane’s music, early or late, ever sounded like African music because his bands didn’t play on one and three, which Africans do, and because—until the end—they swung, which Africans do not—nor does anybody else unaffected by that distinctly Negro-American contribution to phrasing. (For those who persist in calling jazz African music I ask but one question: Where in Africa is there anything that resembles Art Tatum or Coleman Hawkins?)
Coltrane may have been on the way back from the abyss, however, before he died in 1967 at age 40. Rashied Ali remembers playing with Coltrane and Jimmy Garrison in a “straight-ahead†trio session recorded in Japan, interpreting standard songs. Near the end, Coltrane was calling McCoy Tyner and talking of how much he missed the old band. He even said to one saxophonist close to him that he was about to try and put the Classic Quartet back together. Perhaps Coltrane wanted to feel again all that he had turned his back on.
RIP Mr. Crouch. You never failed to instruct, delight, and engage.
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Some snippets from Crouch:
STANLEY CROUCH TOLD IT LIKE IT IS
https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2020/09/stanley-crouch-told-it-like-it-is.php (https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2020/09/stanley-crouch-told-it-like-it-is.php)
Stanley Crouch died yesterday at the age of 74. Crouch is best known as a great jazz critic. His biography of Charlie Parker is a classic.
But Crouch was also a literary critic and a critic of our culture. Here are some gems from his criticism:
On rap: It is “either infantile self-celebration or anarchic glamorization of criminal behavior.â€
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On Spike Lee: He’s “a middle-class would-be street Negro,†whose films reflected “fantasy†versions of Black communities and “the fundamental shallowness that you get from a propagandist.â€
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On the civil rights movement: It aspired to a “complex vision of universal humanism†and cultural understanding before it was “hijacked by radicals.â€
On Louis Farrakhan: He’s “our most highly respected racist and all-purpose lunatic.â€
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Some snippets from Crouch:
STANLEY CROUCH TOLD IT LIKE IT IS
https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2020/09/stanley-crouch-told-it-like-it-is.php (https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2020/09/stanley-crouch-told-it-like-it-is.php)
@PeteS in CA
He clearly didn't have any wool pulled over his eyes,and didn't give a damn about being "black politically correct".
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Ruth Bader Ginsburg reportedly has died.
Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg, a Liberal Voice on Supreme Court, Dies at 87
Second woman to sit on the top U.S. court spent her last years on the bench pushing back against an emboldened conservative majority
Updated Sept. 18, 2020 7:53 pm ET
Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg, a pioneering figure in the fight for women’s legal equality and the second woman to serve on the Supreme Court, died on Friday at the age of 87.
As the most senior member of the high court’s liberal bloc, the 1993 Clinton appointee spent her last years on the bench pushing back against an emboldened conservative majority, sometimes winning surprise victories or mitigating expected defeats by peeling off a vote from Chief Justice John Roberts or former Justice Anthony Kennedy. ...
https://www.wsj.com/articles/ruth-bader-ginsburg-dies-11600472623?mod=e2tw&tesla=y (https://www.wsj.com/articles/ruth-bader-ginsburg-dies-11600472623?mod=e2tw&tesla=y)
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(CNN)Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg died on Friday due to complications of metastatic pancreas cancer, the court announced. She was 87.
Ginsburg was appointed in 1993 by President Bill Clinton and in recent years served as the most senior member of the court's liberal wing consistently delivering progressive votes on the most divisive social issues of the day, including abortion rights, same-sex marriage, voting rights, immigration, health care and affirmative action.
Along the way, she developed a rock star type status and was dubbed the "Notorious R.B.G." In speaking events across the country before liberal audiences, she was greeted with standing ovations as she spoke about her view of the law, her famed exercise routine and her often fiery dissents.
"Our Nation has lost a jurist of historic stature," said Chief Justice John Roberts. "We at the Supreme Court have lost a cherished colleague. Today we mourn, but with confidence that future generations will remember Ruth Bader Ginsburg as we knew her -- a tireless and resolute champion of justice."
Ginsburg died surrounded by her family at her home in Washington, D.C., the court said. A private interment service will be held at Arlington National Cemetery. ... CNN (https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/18/politics/ruth-bader-ginsburg-dead/index.html?utm_medium=social&utm_term=link&utm_source=twCNN&utm_content=2020-09-18T23%3A40%3A51)
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Good riddance to bad trash.
Now they are going to bury that evil bitch in Arlington National Ceremony. I guess it is her last chance to pollute America.
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She was a friend of Scalia.
Don't let it be said I never had anything nice to say about her.
Kyle Griffin
@kylegriffin1
Just days before her death, as her strength waned, Ginsburg dictated this statement to her granddaughter Clara Spera: "My most fervent wish is that I will not be replaced until a new president is installed."
7:36 PM · Sep 18, 2020·
The Constitution notwithstanding? Replace her now.
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Ruth Bader Ginsburg reportedly has died.https://www.wsj.com/articles/ruth-bader-ginsburg-dies-11600472623?mod=e2tw&tesla=y (https://www.wsj.com/articles/ruth-bader-ginsburg-dies-11600472623?mod=e2tw&tesla=y)
She finally gets to meet all of the innocent souls she consigned to death by her obscene allegiance to the leftist sacrament of abortion.
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Rest in peace, Justice Ginsburg.
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Ruth Bader Ginsburg reportedly has died.https://www.wsj.com/articles/ruth-bader-ginsburg-dies-11600472623?mod=e2tw&tesla=y (https://www.wsj.com/articles/ruth-bader-ginsburg-dies-11600472623?mod=e2tw&tesla=y)
"I've never wished a man(person) dead, but I have read some obituaries with great pleasure." Mark Twain
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Rest in peace, Justice Ginsburg.
I agree. RIP
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Though I disagree with her, I will not rejoice in her death, knowing how many times "conservatives" have disappointed us when appointed to the high court. It's simply bad karma.
Her passing was expected—unlike Scalia's... ahem.
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When push came to shove, Justice Ginsburg stood for the integrity of the judiciary above anything including politics---she slapped down (https://reason.com/2019/07/29/ruth-bader-ginsburg-rejects-court-packing-as-a-bad-idea/) 2019 Democrats' thoughts about Supreme Court packing: If anything would make the Court look partisan, it would be that—one side saying, 'When we're in power, we're going to enlarge the number of judges, so we would have more people who would vote the way we want them to.'
Wrote Damon Root (in the article from which I just extracted Ginsburg's remark during a radio interview), author of one of the best contemporary analyses of the Supreme Court (https://www.amazon.com/Overruled-Long-Control-Supreme-Court-ebook/dp/B00LDR38V2/ref=sr_1_1?crid=3TRTSIAJFW027&dchild=1&keywords=damon+root&qid=1600477600&s=books&sprefix=Damon+Root%2Caps%2C216&sr=1-1) I've read in the past ten years . . .
Ginsburg also knows her history. Roosevelt's court-packing scheme was defeated in 1937 in large part thanks to the principled opposition of members of Roosevelt's own party. In fact, one of Ginsburg's judicial heroes, the progressive legal icon Justice Louis Brandeis (appointed by a Democratic president, Woodrow Wilson), helped to lead that opposition.
Brandeis was mostly in sync with the goals of Roosevelt's New Deal. But the progressive jurist was deeply offended by Roosevelt's desire to interfere with a co-equal branch of government. So, working mostly behind the scenes, Brandeis went on the counterattack. Perhaps his most important move was to put the court-packing plan's chief congressional critic, Sen. Burton K. Wheeler (D–Mont.), in touch with Chief Justice Charles Evans Hughes, who had drafted a memo, signed by several justices, which made it clear that the Court not only opposed the president's power grab but also rejected Roosevelt's stated justifications as a self-serving sham. Wheeler unveiled that memo in the Senate to great political effect, and Roosevelt's scheme died a well-deserved death shortly after that.
Ginsburg is now following in Brandeis' admirable footsteps . . .
She deserves plentiful criticism for several opinions and stances on issues before the Court in her time. But she deserves nothing but credit and praise for a stance like that.
RIP Madame Justice.
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"I've never wished a man(person) dead, but I have read some obituaries with great pleasure." Mark Twain
@SZonian
It wasn't Twain who said it---it was, ironically (considering his legend in the legal world), Clarence Darrow. And this turns out to be the actual, full remark:
All men have an emotion to kill; when they strongly dislike some one they involuntarily wish he was dead. I have never killed any one, but I have read some obituary notices with great satisfaction.
Somehow, some way, the full quote became a kind of telephone-game-like victim. You know, where one person tells it to the person right next to him (or her), the next passes it on, and by the time it returns to the originator it's either bowdlerised or something completely different---often as not having nothing to do with the original.
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When push came to shove, Justice Ginsburg stood for the integrity of the judiciary above anything including politics---she slapped down (https://reason.com/2019/07/29/ruth-bader-ginsburg-rejects-court-packing-as-a-bad-idea/) 2019 Democrats' thoughts about Supreme Court packing: If anything would make the Court look partisan, it would be that—one side saying, 'When we're in power, we're going to enlarge the number of judges, so we would have more people who would vote the way we want them to.'
Wrote Damon Root (in the article from which I just extracted Ginsburg's remark during a radio interview), author of one of the best contemporary analyses of the Supreme Court (https://www.amazon.com/Overruled-Long-Control-Supreme-Court-ebook/dp/B00LDR38V2/ref=sr_1_1?crid=3TRTSIAJFW027&dchild=1&keywords=damon+root&qid=1600477600&s=books&sprefix=Damon+Root%2Caps%2C216&sr=1-1) I've read in the past ten years . . .
Ginsburg also knows her history. Roosevelt's court-packing scheme was defeated in 1937 in large part thanks to the principled opposition of members of Roosevelt's own party. In fact, one of Ginsburg's judicial heroes, the progressive legal icon Justice Louis Brandeis (appointed by a Democratic president, Woodrow Wilson), helped to lead that opposition.
Brandeis was mostly in sync with the goals of Roosevelt's New Deal. But the progressive jurist was deeply offended by Roosevelt's desire to interfere with a co-equal branch of government. So, working mostly behind the scenes, Brandeis went on the counterattack. Perhaps his most important move was to put the court-packing plan's chief congressional critic, Sen. Burton K. Wheeler (D–Mont.), in touch with Chief Justice Charles Evans Hughes, who had drafted a memo, signed by several justices, which made it clear that the Court not only opposed the president's power grab but also rejected Roosevelt's stated justifications as a self-serving sham. Wheeler unveiled that memo in the Senate to great political effect, and Roosevelt's scheme died a well-deserved death shortly after that.
Ginsburg is now following in Brandeis' admirable footsteps . . .
She deserves plentiful criticism for several opinions and stances on issues before the Court in her time. But she deserves nothing but credit and praise for a stance like that.
RIP Madame Justice.
Agree wholeheartedly.
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Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg, feminist pioneer and progressive icon, dies at 87
SCOTUSblog by Amy Howe
https://www.scotusblog.com/2020/09/justice-ruth-bader-ginsburg-feminist-pioneer-and-progressive-icon-dies-at-87/#more-296152 (https://www.scotusblog.com/2020/09/justice-ruth-bader-ginsburg-feminist-pioneer-and-progressive-icon-dies-at-87/#more-296152)
Ruth Bader Ginsburg, a trailblazer who fought for gender equality as a lawyer and became a beloved hero of the progressive movement as a justice, died on Friday of complications from pancreatic cancer. When she was confirmed to the court in 1993, Ginsburg was a reserved and relatively unknown court of appeals judge, but during the course of her 27 years on the court she became an improbable pop-culture icon, inspiring everything from an Oscar-nominated documentary film to her own action figure. She was 87.
With the presidential election less than two months away, Ginsburg’s death will undoubtedly kick off a heated battle over how quickly the vacancy should be filled. After Justice Antonin Scalia died in February 2016, Senate Republicans immediately announced that they intended to oppose any effort to confirm a successor to Scalia until after the 2016 presidential election. Although President Barack Obama nominated Judge Merrick Garland in March 2016 to take Scalia’s place, Garland’s nomination went nowhere, and Neil Gorsuch, a judge on the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 10th Circuit nominated by President Donald Trump, was confirmed in April 2017 to fill the vacancy created by Scalia’s death. Even before Ginsburg announced her most recent bouts with cancer this summer, McConnell had already made clear last year that, if a vacancy occurred on the court in 2020, he intended to fill it.
At her Supreme Court confirmation hearing, Ginsburg told the Senate Judiciary Committee that her life story “could happen only in America.†Born Joan Ruth Bader on March 15, 1933, she was quickly nicknamed “Kiki†by her older sister Marilyn, who died in 1934 of meningitis at the age of six. The Baders lived in a working-class neighborhood in Brooklyn. Neither of her parents attended college: Her father, Nathan, came to the United States from Russia as a teenager and worked as a furrier; her mother, Celia Amster Bader, was born a few months after her parents arrived in the country from Austria and worked in a garment factory to put her brother through college. Ginsburg later said that her mother “made reading a delight and counseled me constantly to ‘be independent,’ able to fend for myself.†The Baders were Jewish, and Ginsburg recalled, as a child, seeing a sign in front of a Pennsylvania resort that said “No dogs or Jews allowed.â€
Ginsburg attended public schools in Brooklyn, where she was a top student involved in a wide range of extracurricular activities – everything from playing the cello in the school orchestra to twirling a baton at football games. But she did not attend her high school graduation in June 1950. Her mother, who had been diagnosed with cervical cancer right around the time that Ginsburg began ninth grade, died two days before the ceremony.
Ginsburg received a full scholarship to Cornell University in Ithaca, New York, where her professors included Vladimir Nabokov, the Russian-born author who would publish the classic novel Lolita in 1955. Nabokov, Ginsburg would say later, “changed the way I read and the way I write. Words could paint pictures, I learned from him.†Another influential professor, Robert Cushman, a constitutional scholar, encouraged her to go to law school.
Soon after arriving at Cornell, she met Martin (Marty) Ginsburg on a blind date. Marty Ginsburg was, Ginsburg said, “the first boy I knew who cared that I had a brain.†She would describe him as “a partner truly extraordinary for his generation, a man who believed at age 18 when we met, and who believes today, that a woman’s work, whether at home or on the job, is as important as a man’s.†She married Marty in 1954, nine days after graduating from Cornell with the highest grade-point average for female students in her class.
Ginsburg gave birth to her daughter, Jane, in July 1955, 14 months before starting at Harvard Law School, where she was one of only nine women in a class of approximately 500. The Ginsburgs hired a caregiver to look after Jane on weekdays from 8 a.m. until 4 p.m.; Ginsburg would spend the late afternoon and early evening with Jane and then resume studying after her daughter went to bed.
At her confirmation hearing, Ginsburg recounted “many indignities†that she endured because of her gender while in law school but that, she said, “one accepted as just part of the scenery,†such as the time that a male employee told her that women were barred from a particular room in the library, which she needed to enter as part of her work for the law review. On another occasion, a dinner with the dean of the law school, Ginsburg and the other women in her class were famously asked to justify taking the place of a man.
More at link.
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She was a friend of Scalia.
Don't let it be said I never had anything nice to say about her.
The Constitution notwithstanding? Replace her now.
She never let the Constitution bother her before..
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She was the best friend of the pro-choice faction in the entire U.S. I'll just leave it at that.
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Wow. This is gonna throw a fuel tanker worth of gas on an already hot election.
I've said it here I have no sympathy for those who cling to power for political purpose long past the time they should have left.
RBG fits square in that category. It's obviously she's been going rapidly downhill for a year at least.
I'll save my sympathies for the family.
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@SZonian
It wasn't Twain who said it---it was, ironically (considering his legend in the legal world), Clarence Darrow. And this turns out to be the actual, full remark:
All men have an emotion to kill; when they strongly dislike some one they involuntarily wish he was dead. I have never killed any one, but I have read some obituary notices with great satisfaction.
Somehow, some way, the full quote became a kind of telephone-game-like victim. You know, where one person tells it to the person right next to him (or her), the next passes it on, and by the time it returns to the originator it's either bowdlerised or something completely different---often as not having nothing to do with the original.
Thanks for that @EasyAce, much appreciated. :beer:
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Lee Kerslake: Former Ozzy Osbourne and Uriah Heep drummer dies aged 73
Ozzy Osbourne's former drummer, Lee Kerslake, has died aged 73.
The musician had been undergoing treatment for prostate cancer.
He is best known for his performances on the Black Sabbath frontman's critically-acclaimed debut album, Blizzard of Ozz, and was also the drummer in heavy metal band Uriah Heep.
Osbourne wrote on Facebook: "It's been 39 years since I've seen Lee but he lives for ever on the records he played on for me."
In a tribute posted on the band's Twitter page, fellow Uriah Heep member Mick Box wrote: "Lee was one of the kindest men on earth, as well as being a brother he was an incredible drummer, singer and song writer!
https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-54225774 (https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-54225774)
@EasyAce
@Sighlass
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Not an obituary from today, but a death from September 20, 1973.
Jim Croce:
Error 404 (Not Found)!!1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EG6ZlCpfVvU&frags=pl%2Cwn#)
Jim didn't write "I Got A Name" -- it was the theme song from the wonderful film "The Last American Hero" (later renamed to "Hard Driver") -- but it's my favorite from him.
I had seen him play only a month earlier at the 1973 Philly Folk Festival.
Hard to believe it was almost 50 years ago...
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@Fishrrman
Now I think we all feel old. What a talent.
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@Fishrrman
Now I think we all feel old. What a talent.
Aged. Time in a Bottle and Operator were favorites, too.
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Aged. Time in a Bottle and Operator were favorites, too.
And Leroy Brown. Sad he was only 30. Way too young. 8888crybaby
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His little known and underappreciated 'Rapid Roy the Stock Car Boy'.... There ain't hardly a Croce song out there that I don't know by heart... :beer:
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His little known and underappreciated 'Rapid Roy the Stock Car Boy'.... There ain't hardly a Croce song out there that I don't know by heart... :beer:
LOve that song, been ages since I heard it.
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Stay on topic, please. This thread is for CURRENT obituaries only. We have plenty of music threads.
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And Leroy Brown. Sad he was only 30. Way too young. 8888crybaby
I agree.
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LOve that song, been ages since I heard it.
How about "Speedball Tucker"?
It took me some years to realize that the line "and all them other truckers" was not what it seemed to mean when I first heard it.
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His little known and underappreciated 'Rapid Roy the Stock Car Boy'.... There ain't hardly a Croce song out there that I don't know by heart... :beer:
Same here.
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Jackie Stallone, Sylvester Stallone's Mother, Dead at 98
https://www.whas11.com/article/entertainment/entertainment-tonight/jackie-stallone-sylvester-stallones-mother-dead-at-98/603-22824fda-816e-431a-b9a1-0b10803e9469 (https://www.whas11.com/article/entertainment/entertainment-tonight/jackie-stallone-sylvester-stallones-mother-dead-at-98/603-22824fda-816e-431a-b9a1-0b10803e9469)
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Tommy DeVito, original Four Seasons member, dead at 92 from COVID-19 (https://nypost.com/2020/09/22/tommy-devito-original-four-seasons-member-dead-at-92-from-covid-19/)
By Rob Bailey-Milado
The New York Post
Tommy DeVito, one of the smooth harmonizers of legendary doo-wop group the Four Seasons, has died from complications of the coronavirus. The baritone vocalist and lead guitarist was 92.
When reached by The Post for comment, Four Seasons frontman Frankie Valli and singer-keyboardist Bob Gaudio said in a joint statement:
“It is with great sadness that we report that Tommy DeVito, a founding member of the Four Seasons, has passed. We send our love to his family during this most difficult time. He will be missed by all who loved him.â€
Actor Alfred Nittoli (“Casinoâ€) first confirmed DeVito’s passing Tuesday on Facebook.
“My dear friend Tommy passed away in Las Vegas at 9:45 last night,†Nittoli wrote, spurring dozens of emotional condolences. “With deep regret I am writing this sitting in his living room. I was informed by his daughter Darcel there will be a service in New Jersey" . . .
(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/jzt-ge9WIvo/hqdefault.jpg)
The Four Seasons, circa 1963-64; left to right: Bob Gaudio (their chief co-songwriter); Tommy DeVito; Frankie Valli; Nick Massi (who did their vocal arrangements and died twenty years ago).
One of the only things the film version of Jersey Boys got right: Tommy DeVito, sadly enough, was the Season most likely to have become a made wiseguy if he hadn't become a musician and singer. He'd grown up in an abusive household and pushed him too young into a life of street crime that ended only when he hooked up with the guys who eventually became the Four Seasons with him. (Much like George Harrison was the only Beatle who grew up in a normal household un-wracked by divorce or parental death, Bob Gaudio was the only Season who grew up without family turmoil. He was also the only Season who didn't grow up in New Jersey---he was a Bronx boy.)
DeVito was supposed to be the band member handling the group's finances, but he developed such a gambling habit and ran up such a huge bill with the IRS that, in 1971 (after the group made their most experimental album, The Genuine Imitation Life Gazette---the one that impressed Frank Sinatra so much he engaged Season co-songwriter Gaudio and Jake Holmes, Gazette's lyricist, to write him an album, Watertown), Gaudio and Frankie Valli agreed to pay off DeVito's debts---in return for him leaving the band and surrendering his stake in their formal business partnership. (At the time, the band said publicly that DeVito was leaving due to hearing problems; the Four Seasons weren't exactly the type to hang their dirty laundry in public in those years.)
DeVito did get a second chance in life and made the most of it, happily enough. He relocated to Las Vegas (some of his siblings already lived there) after his forceout from the Four Seasons with $100,000 in the bank. (He once swore he would have left the Four Seasons on his own if he hadn't been forced out of the band because---like Nick Massi before him---he tired of the touring.) He ran through it in a year, then took up housecleaning as a profession, and married a Vegas showgirl who'd quit when her show went topless. He got back onto his feet slowly, raising a family and eventually becoming a recording studio operator and producer, not to mention getting some low-keyed film work thanks to his old friend Joe Pesci.
And good for him. Many are the men who don't redeem their early foolishnesses.
RIP.
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Tommy DeVito, original Four Seasons member, dead at 92 from COVID-19 (https://nypost.com/2020/09/22/tommy-devito-original-four-seasons-member-dead-at-92-from-covid-19/)
It's always a tragedy to lose someone so young. DAMN YOU,VIRUS!
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Gale Sayers, ‘Kansas Comet’ and Bears legend, dies at 77
Former Bears running back Gale Sayers, the “Kansas Comet†whose dazzling moves and breakaway speed made him the most dangerous runner in football in the 1960s and earned him Hall of Fame honors despite playing in just 68 games because of injuries, has died. He was 77. He had been diagnosed with dementia in 2012, his wife Ardythe announced in 2017.
The Pro Football Hall of Fame announced his death.
Though other great running backs were more prolific — Jim Brown before him and Walter Payton after him, among others — there rarely if ever has been a weapon as dangerous from anywhere on a football field as Sayers. He scored 56 touchdowns in 64 games over his first five seasons in the NFL from 1965-69 — 39 rushing, nine receiving, six on kickoff returns and two on punt returns. He also threw a touchdown pass.
https://chicago.suntimes.com/bears/2020/9/23/21452270/bears-gale-sayers-dead-age-77-kansas-comet-running-back-star-legend-all-century-running-back-ill
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RIP Mr. Sayers. I hope your family can find peace and you are now playingfootball with your friend Brian Piccolo
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Sad news about Gale Sayers. These last eight years must have been so difficult for him and his family. :crying:
Re his Hall of Fame induction:... “Each of us excels at different things, sometimes in areas that are only a hobby, more often in our life vocation,†Sayers said during his induction speech. “The most important thing, however, is to strive to do our very best. Nothing is more of a waste than unrealized potential. Sometimes failure to use one’s talents to the fullest is often the fault of the individual.†...
Outkick (https://www.outkick.com/gale-sayers-passes-away-at-77/)
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Gale Sayers, ‘Kansas Comet’ and Bears legend, dies at 77
https://chicago.suntimes.com/bears/2020/9/23/21452270/bears-gale-sayers-dead-age-77-kansas-comet-running-back-star-legend-all-century-running-back-ill
Sayers was also well known as the principle character in Brians Song, the 1971 movie. Didn't know he was still around.
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RIP Mr. Sayers. I hope your family can find peace and you are now playingfootball with your friend Brian Piccolo
Tragic loss, prayers for his family.
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Mr. Sayers lived and played the sport at a time when real racism plagued the country and profession sports. These bleep millionaire kneegoers and BLM asshats protesting a false idea that "systemic racism" exists today could not carry his jock strap.
RIP # 40.
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Mr. Sayers lived and played the sport at a time when real racism plagued the country and profession sports. These bleep millionaire kneegoers and BLM asshats protesting a false idea that "systemic racism" exists today could not carry his jock strap.
RIP # 40.
Exactly.
:thumbsup:
Rest in peace, Mr. Sayers.
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Sayers is the player I have in mind when the subject of the most elusive running backs in NFL history is brought up.
Of the running backs in the NFL during the sixties, Sayers, Jim Brown, and Jimmy Taylor are the three I consider at the top.
Being a huge Packers fan during that time, Jimmy Taylor was my all-time favorite.
I actually thought Taylor might have been the best running back in the NFL for a while during the early sixties.
That's until I saw Jim Brown play. Then I thought to myself, alright, Jimmy Taylor is the second best running back in the league.
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Gale Sayers, ‘Kansas Comet’ and Bears legend, dies at 77
@Gefn
It may not be possible to know less about football than I know,and even *I* know who Gale Sayers was.
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Mr. Sayers lived and played the sport at a time when real racism plagued the country and profession sports. These bleep millionaire kneegoers and BLM asshats protesting a false idea that "systemic racism" exists today could not carry his jock strap.
RIP # 40.
I agree. :beer:
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@Gefn
It may not be possible to know less about football than I know,and even *I* know who Gale Sayers was.
Yep, I don’t know much about football but I saw “Brian’s Songâ€
@sneakypete
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@Gefn
@sneakypete
I saw Brian's Song back in the 70s when it was first shown and cried like a baby. Fast forward to the late 1990s when the movie was shown on some free weekend on one of the cable movie channels. Thought by then I was immune to the tugs at the heartstrings. Nope. Bawled like a baby again.
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Sayers was something to witness. Back when then the Pittsburgh Steelers were playing at Pitt Stadium, I saw Sayers run a kickoff touchdown all the way down the field from the End Zone. He was spectacular. That just was not a common thing, and he was always a threat for it.
Great player!
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I can remember seeing clips of him as a little kid. There was alot of talent in the NFL, but Sayers was so smooth, sleek, and slippery, like flowing water as he cut through the defense.
There hasn't been anyone really like him in style before or since.
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I read Gale Sayers autobiography "I am Third" back in the seventies.
The title meant, "God is First, my family is Second, and I am Third."
A good read, as I recall.
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@Gefn
@sneakypete
I saw Brian's Song back in the 70s when it was first shown and cried like a baby. Fast forward to the late 1990s when the movie was shown on some free weekend on one of the cable movie channels. Thought by then I was immune to the tugs at the heartstrings. Nope. Bawled like a baby again.
I figured when the remake came out it would suck. It wasn't terrible and it went into detail what kind of cancer Brian had. They never really said in the original movie, and I can see why. Back then Men didn't get that one, only women.
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@Gefn
@sneakypete
I saw Brian's Song back in the 70s when it was first shown and cried like a baby. Fast forward to the late 1990s when the movie was shown on some free weekend on one of the cable movie channels. Thought by then I was immune to the tugs at the heartstrings. Nope. Bawled like a baby again.
Same here. 'Something for Joey' always gets me too.
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Helen Reddy
1970s singer dies at 78
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/2f/Helen_Reddy_1975.JPG/220px-Helen_Reddy_1975.JPG)
Reddy was born in Melbourne, Australia 1941 to a show-business family and effectively forced to become a musical star; she initially resisted but relented after a marriage and divorce at a young age forced her to make money the only way she knew how: by singing. At 25, she won a trip to New York City on an Australian television show, but found out soon after that Mercury Records, which was supposed to have offered her a recording deal as her prize, had reneged on the agreement. She opted to remain in America.
She eventually found stardom in the 1970s, with fifteen top-40 hits. She broke through with "I Don't Know How to Love Him" (the cover of a Jesus Christ Superstar number) but rocketed to fame with "I am Woman," a chart-topping feminist anthem. Other notable hits included "Delta Dawn" (covering Tanya Tucker's country hit), "Leave Me Alone (Ruby Red Dress)," "You and Me Against the World," and "Angie Baby." Her recording career lost steam in the 1980s, as did her second marriage.
Reddy died September 29.
Obituary from the Sydney Morning Herald (https://www.smh.com.au/culture/music/trailblazing-australian-singer-helen-reddy-dead-at-78-20200930-p560i0.html)
Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helen_Reddy)
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Helen Reddy
1970s singer dies at 78
@jmyrlefuller
I can remember when 78 was old.
SIGH!
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@jmyrlefuller
I can remember when 78 was old.
SIGH!
I can remember when I thought 78 was old.
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Mac Davis, country music singer, songwriter for Elvis Presley and actor, dies at 78
Mac Davis -- a singer, songwriter and actor who wrote "In The Ghetto" and other classic songs for Elvis Presley before becoming a multitalented star in his own right — died Tuesday at age 78.
The announcement was made by the Country Music Association, following word from Davis' manager that he had become "critically ill" after undergoing heart surgery in Nashville.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/entertainment/music/2020/09/30/mac-davis-singer-songwriter-elvis-actor-dies-78/3584784001/?ref=hvper.com (https://www.usatoday.com/story/entertainment/music/2020/09/30/mac-davis-singer-songwriter-elvis-actor-dies-78/3584784001/?ref=hvper.com)
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Same age, same day.
(https://media.extratv.com/2020/09/30/helen-reddy-mac-davis-extra-825x580.jpg)
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Wow. I
Both talented musicians. Rest In Peace.
I’m really starting to dislike all the new obituaries.
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Wow. I
Both talented musicians. Rest In Peace.
I’m really starting to dislike all the new obituaries.
Waiting for the third shoe to drop
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RIP Mac Davis... These words have been with me most of my life...
Error 404 (Not Found)!!1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mYKWch_MNY0#)
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Waiting for the third shoe to drop
Anne Murray?
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Anne Murray?
Bite your tongue, she is my wife's favorite singer of all time. "Can I have this dance for the rest of my life" was out first dance at our wedding.
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Anne Murray?
Many of my ancestors came from Canada, including Nova Scotia, New Brunswick, etc. 1750s-1850s
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RIP, Mr Davis.
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RIP to the greatest pitcher in St. Louis Cardinals history . . .
Cardinals Hall of Famer Bob Gibson dies at 84 after bout with cancer (https://www.stltoday.com/sports/baseball/professional/cardinals-hall-of-famer-bob-gibson-dies-at-84-after-bout-with-cancer/article_90a0dff7-bee3-5a81-9eb0-91663f29fb4d.html#utm_campaign=blox&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social)
Fought pancreatic cancer and lost.
Died on the anniversary of his record-setting 17-strikeout Game One performance in the 1968 World Series.
(https://scontent.flas1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/120544637_10158221386652912_7347313176709427347_n.jpg?_nc_cat=100&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=SvB9bGHtiiEAX_QrlJ4&_nc_ht=scontent.flas1-2.fna&oh=eaf2b83d44d873eb5ba1634ebba75a95&oe=5F9E29D3)
RIP Gibby.
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RIP to the greatest pitcher in St. Louis Cardinals history . . .
Wow, and after losing Brock less than a month ago. Really tough 2020 for vintage Card fans.
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The BoSox cardinals WS was the 1st one i remember following and enjoyed pulling for Gibson vs that red Sox pitched whatshisname. 😁
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Wow, and after losing Brock less than a month ago. Really tough 2020 for vintage Card fans.
You got that right. One of the fondest memories of my childhood was catching an 11-game homestand in St. Louis back in the 70's. John Denny was the ace back then, and the Mad Hungarian was the closer.
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The BoSox cardinals WS was the 1st one i remember following and enjoyed pulling for Gibson vs that red Sox pitched whatshisname. 😁
@Wingnut
You're thinking of Jim Lonborg, 1967 American League Cy Young Award winner---and likely chairman, if such a chapter existed, of baseball's Future Dentists of America. (Lonborg became a dentist after his pitching career ended.)
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@Wingnut
You're thinking of Jim Lonborg, 1967 American League Cy Young Award winner---and likely chairman, if such a chapter existed, of baseball's Future Dentists of America. (Lonborg became a dentist after his pitching career ended.)
Thanks. I always got him and Jim Palmer confused for o
Some reason.
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So glad I got to watch in person some of the greats play: Brock, Gibson, Clemente, Stargell, Mays.
Excuse me while I feel really old ... :crying:
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You got that right. One of the fondest memories of my childhood was catching an 11-game homestand in St. Louis back in the 70's. John Denny was the ace back then, and the Mad Hungarian was the closer.
Want to talk impact.... Gibson's '68 season and his 1.12 era that year was the reason MLB lowered the mound the following season.
Still hard to fathom and get my mind around a 1.12 era over an entire season. You can't get much more dominant than that.
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Want to talk impact.... Gibson's '68 season and his 1.12 era that year was the reason MLB lowered the mound the following season.
It was Gibson, plus
* Don Drysdale breaking Walter Johnson's shutout inning streak over six consecutive shutouts in May and June.
* Denny McLain earning 31 wins. (Codicil: When you're getting 4.7 runs of support per 27 outs, which is what McLain got in 1968, you'd damn well better win 31 games.)
* Carl Yastrzemski winning the American League batting title at .301.
* The American League slugging a mere .339. (It's still the lowest league percentage since 1915.)
* 339 shutouts across MLB.
* Five teams pitching 20 or more shutouts. (In descending order: the Cardinals [30], the Mets [25], the Indians [23], the Dodgers [23], and the Giants [20].)
* A collective MLB 2.98 ERA and fielding-independent pitching rate.
* Luis Tiant of the Indians winning the American League ERA title with 1.60.
* Far more night than day baseball---578 more night than day games in 1968, and 472 more night games in 1968 than in 1963, the year the Baseball Rules Committee expanded the strike zone to points from the batter's shoulders to below his knees.
Gibson's 1968 ERA was only the most obvious reason MLB re-instituted the pre-1962 strike zone and lowered the mound to ten inches. But it wasn't the only reason. If Gibson had rolled that ERA but everything else in MLB remained at its previous or future averages, by itself it wouldn't have been enough to compel those rule changes. Bob Gibson was a great pitcher, but his impact on the post-1968 rule changes is as exaggerated as his image for headhunting.
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So glad I got to watch in person some of the greats play: Brock, Gibson, Clemente, Stargell, Mays.
Excuse me while I feel really old ... :crying:
All these guys were stars when I was a youngin' and not a bunch of primadonas like what we have now. Many of them were vastly underpaid by today's standards, but they worked for every cent they made. I miss the days when players played not just for the paycheck, but for the love of the game.
Rest in peace, Lou Brock and Bob Gibson.
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I seem to recall Mateo Alou, who won an NL batting title, earning about $42K.
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I seem to recall Mateo Alou, who won an NL batting title, earning about $42K.
@mountaineer
I remember even more a classic splash of graffiti in San Francisco when all three Alou brothers played for the Giants:
JESUS IS THE ANSWER! WHAT'S THE QUESTION? WHO'S FELIPE AND MATTY'S KID BROTHER?
Matty Alou actually wasn't much of a hitter until the Giants traded him to the Pirates and Pirates manager Harry Walker took one look at his swing and suggested he use a heavier bat. That 1966 season (when he earned the $42K) was when he won the batting title hitting 70 points above his career average prior to that year. But it ended up being a wasted BA---Alou was a leadoff man who reached base the way a good leadoff man should, but that year's Pirates weren't exactly world-beaters when it came to getting runs home. Alou scored 86 times but probably should have scored well more than 100 times that year.
By the way, Matty Alou earned $100,000 playing for the 1972 Cardinals and Athletics, then $70,000 in each of his final two seasons, one with the Yankees and one with the Padres.
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@mountaineer
I remember even more a classic splash of graffiti in San Francisco when all three Alou brothers played for the Giants:
JESUS IS THE ANSWER! WHAT'S THE QUESTION? WHO'S FELIPE AND MATTY'S KID BROTHER?
Matty Alou actually wasn't much of a hitter until the Giants traded him to the Pirates and Pirates manager Harry Walker took one look at his swing and suggested he use a heavier bat. That 1966 season (when he earned the $42K) was when he won the batting title hitting 70 points above his career average prior to that year. But it ended up being a wasted BA---Alou was a leadoff man who reached base the way a good leadoff man should, but that year's Pirates weren't exactly world-beaters when it came to getting runs home. Alou scored 86 times but probably should have scored well more than 100 times that year.
By the way, Matty Alou earned $100,000 playing for the 1972 Cardinals and Athletics, then $70,000 in each of his final two seasons, one with the Yankees and one with the Padres.
Makes a person wonder who was most valuable...Matty Alou with a lifetime BA of .307 but an OBP of only .345 or somebody like The Walking Man, Eddie Yost whose lifetime BA was .254 but OBP was .394. Yost had five seasons of scoring 100 or more runs including four with the perennially lousy Senators and only one for Alou with the strong-hitting Pirates.
And Yost had a lot more power than Alou....139 lifetime dingers for Yost vs. only 31 for Alou.
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I got Moises Alou for $1 his rookie year in my Rotisserie Baseball League. Two years later, I won the title.
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Meanwhile, alas . . .
Ron Perranoski, 2-time World Series champ with Los Angeles Dodgers, dies at 84 (https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/30032155/ron-perranoski-2-world-series-champ-los-angeles-dodgers-dies-84)
Great relief pitcher of the early-to-mid 1960s.
Lou Johnson, hit winning homer in '65 World Series, dies at age 86 (https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/lou-johnson-hit-winning-homer-65-world-series-dies-age-n1241971)
Trivia: Lou Johnson has a unique place in baseball history---he got the only hit and scored the only run in Sandy Koufax's 1965 perfect game---and one had nothing to do with the other:
* Bottom of the fifth: Johnson led off with a walk. Ron Fairly bunted him over to second. With Jim Lefebvre at the plate Johnson stole third . . . and came home when Cubs catcher Chris Krug's throw sailed past third base.
* Bottom of the seventh: Johnson hit a two-out double but was stranded when Fairly grounded out to shortstop.
It also meant that if it hadn't been for Johnson, Cubs pitcher Bob Hendley would have thrown a no-hitter on the backside of Koufax's perfect game.
RIP to two classic Dodgers.
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Eddie Van Halen, 65, according to TMZ
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Eddie Van Halen Dead at 65
10/6/2020 12:35 PM PT
Eddie Van Halen -- the legendary guitarist and co-founder of Van Halen -- has died after a long battle with throat cancer ... TMZ has learned.
Sources directly connected to the rock star tell us ... he died at St. Johns Hospital in Santa Monica Tuesday. His wife, Janie, was by his side, along with his son, Wolfgang, and Alex, Eddie's brother and drummer.
We're told in the last 72 hours Eddie's ongoing health battle went massively downhill -- doctors discovered his throat cancer had moved to his brain as well as other organs. ... TMZ (https://www.tmz.com/2020/10/06/eddie-van-halen-dead-dies-cancer-65/)
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Bummer. RIP. Eddie. Heaven has a great rock band for you to jam with.
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Eddie Van Halen, 65, according to TMZ
D@MN!, just D@MN! RIP sir.
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I knew Eddie Van Halen had cancer, but...Wow! Just. Wow! Unexpected.
Rest in peace. 8888crybaby
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Eddie Van Halen, 65, according to TMZ
Another crappy surprise.
Talented guy, a bigger guitar influence than Jimi Hendrix, IMO. As big, at least.
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Eddie and the band are irrevocably intertwined with my years from jr. high well into college. There isn't hardly a song that doesn't bring up a memory.
David Lee Roth said awhile back he wasn't doing good. Eddie barely beat cancer 20 years ago, so I wasn't as surprised as I might have been.
He changed guitar and rock-n-roll forever. RIP.
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And another one:
Johnny Nash, singer of ‘I Can See Clearly Now,’ dies at 80
Johnny Nash, a singer-songwriter, actor and producer who rose from pop crooner to early reggae star to the creator and performer of the million-selling anthem “I Can See Clearly Now,†died Tuesday, his son said.
Nash, who had been in declining health, died of natural causes at home in Houston, the city of his birth, his son, Johnny Nash Jr., told The Associated Press. He was 80.
https://wgntv.com/news/johnny-nash-singer-of-i-can-see-clearly-now-dies-at-80/ (https://wgntv.com/news/johnny-nash-singer-of-i-can-see-clearly-now-dies-at-80/)
Error 404 (Not Found)!!1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FscIgtDJFXg#)
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And another one:
Johnny Nash, singer of ‘I Can See Clearly Now,’ dies at 80
Also did the theme to "The Mighty Hercules"
Error 404 (Not Found)!!1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CrLM6UKcMPg#)
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Also did the theme to "The Mighty Hercules"
Error 404 (Not Found)!!1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CrLM6UKcMPg#)
We're all entitled to make mistakes early in our careers.
RIP Mr. Nash.
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Shoot, Johnny Nash too? I said it before 2020 really stinks.
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Whitey Ford, Pitcher Who Epitomized Mighty Yankees, Dies at 91
Whitey Ford, the street-smart New Yorker who had the best winning percentage of any pitcher in the 20th century and helped the Yankees become baseball’s perennial champions in the 1950s and ’60s, has died. He was 91.
A family member told The Associated Press on Friday that Ford died at his Long Island home Thursday night. The cause was not known.
Nicknamed the “Chairman of the Board,†Ford was a wily left-hander who pitched from 1950-67 in the major leagues, all with the Yankees. He was among the most dependable pitchers in baseball history.
He won 236 games and lost just 106, a winning percentage of .690. He would help symbolize the almost machinelike efficiency of the Yankees in the mid-20th century, when only twice between Ford’s rookie year and 1964 did they fail to make the postseason.
https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/sports/whitey-ford-91-pitcher-who-epitomized-mighty-yankees-dies/2661047/ (https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/sports/whitey-ford-91-pitcher-who-epitomized-mighty-yankees-dies/2661047/)
@EasyAce
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RIP Mr Ford
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Heck I thought Whitey was long gone. RIP.
Since his name was Whitey, I expect the BLM terrorism to start against his family clear out to 6th cousins twice removed.
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Whitey Ford, Pitcher Who Epitomized Mighty Yankees, Dies at 91
https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/sports/whitey-ford-91-pitcher-who-epitomized-mighty-yankees-dies/2661047/ (https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/sports/whitey-ford-91-pitcher-who-epitomized-mighty-yankees-dies/2661047/)
@EasyAce
@Gefn
Not too long ago, Ford and the late Yogi Berra attended a Yankee Old-Timers Day and, during the ceremonies, the video board flashed tributes to former Yankees who'd passed away that year thus far. Yogi turned to Whitey and said, "Boy, I hope I never see my name up there!"
Ford also spent as much of his career cleaning up after his bestie Mickey Mantle's messes as he did pitching for eleven pennant winners and six world champions.
Like Mantle, Ford was a pretty good practical joker. The two once collaborated on a gag the victims of which were young infielders Joe Pepitone and Phil Linz. In Detroit, Ford told the pair they'd arrived, they were ready to party with the big boys. He told them to dress to the nines, take a cab to a club called the Flame, and ask for Whitey Ford's table.
The Flame was actually once a legendary rhythm and blues club in Detroit. By 1963, alas, the Flame was long gone and the place was a ramshackle wreck. Pepitone and Linz found out the hard way after they followed Ford's instructions, hailed their cab, and discovered . . . a ramshackle wreck with nothing left inside but maybe a couple of toasted tables. No Ford, no Mantle, no dinner.
Jim Bouton revealed in Ball Four that Ford also had the habit of taking care of the Yankees' relief pitchers by setting up a table in the pen with a red-and-white checkered tablecloth, loaves of Italian bread, and assorted cold cuts and condiments. "Whitey Ford," Bouton wrote, "had style." A few weeks later, though, Bouton had to record this: "Hot flash! Whitey Ford's Italian restaurant has been topped by the Baltimore bullpen---wienie roasts!"
He also had a brain on the mound to make his assortment of junk balls into lethal weapons. Even if you didn't root for the Yankees, and I sure as hell didn't, you came to love and respect individual Yankees. Whitey Ford was one of them.
RIP, Chairman of the Board.
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@EasyAce my dad was a Yankee fan. I was so happy to get Whitey Ford’s autograph during a Trenton Thunder game a few years back when he was signing them. He seemed to be a nice man. Very patient with the little kids who wanted autographs.
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@EasyAce my dad was a Yankee fan. I was so happy to get Whitey Ford’s autograph during a Trenton Thunder game a few years back when he was signing them. He seemed to be a nice man. Very patient with the little kids who wanted autographs.
@Gefn
He was when he was a Yankee.
When he was a soldier with the Army Signal Corps in 1951-52, it was a little different. Ford once brushed off an autograph-seeking kid with a simple, "Not now, kid."
Oops.
That kid grew up to be U.S. poet laureate Robert Pinsky. When Jane Leavy was researching her biography of Sandy Koufax, she met Pinsky---who'd once written a poem, "Night Game," about Ford and Koufax. (Koufax, of course, beat Ford and the Yankees twice as the Dodgers swept the 1963 World Series.) It happened that, just as Pinsky's hero of his later youth was Koufax, Ford was Leavy's girlhood hero. Pinsky mentioning Ford giving him the autograph brush-off struck a nerve with Leavy.
So she called Koufax. (Koufax cooperated with her book unofficially; he described her both as "a real neat lady" and "his CPA---certified pain in the ass.") She told Koufax about Pinsky and Ford. After a pause, Koufax asked Leavy, "Do you think he'd like a ball?" Leavy said yes. Two weeks later, Koufax sent Pinsky an autographed baseball . . . . and a small, handwritten note saying only, "Whitey's really a good guy."
That prompted Pinsky to reach out to Ford. At which moment Ford explained the real reason for that ancient autograph brush-off: soldiers weren't allowed to sign autographs, something Pinsky never knew. Leavy also wrote that Ford redeemed himself with her by replying, upon the mention of "Night Game," "He wrote nice things about Sandy? I'd like to see that."
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Just saw a notice that Charles Bronson passed away
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Just saw a notice that Charles Bronson passed away
About 17 years ago, according to Wiki. :shrug:
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About 17 years ago, according to Wiki. :shrug:
81 years old. November 3-1921
August 30-2003
He had several children. Maybe one of them passed away today. Could be have a Junior?
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Just saw a notice that Charles Bronson passed away
One of my all time faves.
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Cincinnati Reds Hall of Famer Joe Morgan dies at 77
Hall of Famer Joe Morgan, a 10-time All-Star and two-time World Series champion with the Big Red Machine, died Sunday at 77 at his home in Danville, California, according to a statement from his family.
He is survived by his wife of 30 years, Theresa, their twin daughters Kelly and Ashley, and his daughters Lisa and Angela from his first marriage to Gloria Morgan. Morgan died of non-specified polyneuropathy.
Morgan played eight seasons with the Cincinnati Reds (1972-79) and he was selected to the All-Star team each year. He was named the National League Most Valuable Player in 1975 and ’76, and he earned five Gold Gloves for his exceptional defense at second base.
https://www.cincinnati.com/story/sports/mlb/reds/2020/10/12/cincinnati-reds-hall-famer-joe-morgan-dies-77/5966790002/ (https://www.cincinnati.com/story/sports/mlb/reds/2020/10/12/cincinnati-reds-hall-famer-joe-morgan-dies-77/5966790002/)
@EasyAce
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Two baseball players in a week. I hope this doesn’t go in threes.
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I liked Joe Morgan.
Sorry to hear this.
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Six Hall of Famers gone in a year: Lou Brock, Whitey Ford, Bob Gibson, Al Kaline, Tom Seaver, and now Joe Morgan.
As if 2020 wasn't enough of the kind of year that makes you want to call your parents and take them up on their childhood threats to knock you into the middle of next year.
RIP Joe Morgan, the final and number one cog in the Big Red Machine.
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Six Hall of Famers gone in a year: Lou Brock, Whitey Ford, Bob Gibson, Al Kaline, Tom Seaver, and now Joe Morgan.
As if 2020 wasn't enough of the kind of year that makes you want to call your parents and take them up on their childhood threats to knock you into the middle of next year.
RIP Joe Morgan, the final and number one cog in the Big Red Machine.
Joe Morgan was I think the youngest of these guys. Most of them were big names when I was a kid watching baseball on tv with Dad. Joe Morgan came along later. One of the best infielders back in the day. Without him the Reds would not have been the powerhouse they were back in the 70s.
Rest in peace.
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Margaret Nolan, ‘Goldfinger’ and ‘Hard Day’s Night’ actress, dead at 76
By Hannah Sparks
October 12, 2020
Margaret Nolan, iconic for her role as Dink in the James Bond film “Goldfinger,†has died at 76. ...
In a thread, he [director Edgar Wright] continued, “She was the gold painted model in the iconic Goldfinger title sequence and poster (she also played Dink in the movie), she appeared in the classic ‘A Hard Day’s Night,’ ‘Carry On Girls,’ ‘No Sex Please We’re British’ & many others, frequently sending up her own glamourpuss image.†...
(https://nypost.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2020/10/margaret-nolan-goldfinger-2.jpg?quality=90&strip=all&w=661) (https://static.independent.co.uk/2020/10/12/07/BeFunky-collage (35).jpg?width=990)
More at NY Post (https://nypost.com/2020/10/12/margaret-nolan-goldfinger-bond-girl-dead-at-76/)
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Margaret Nolan, ‘Goldfinger’ and ‘Hard Day’s Night’ actress, dead at 76
By Hannah Sparks
October 12, 2020
Margaret Nolan, iconic for her role as Dink in the James Bond film “Goldfinger,†has died at 76. ...
In a thread, he [director Edgar Wright] continued, “She was the gold painted model in the iconic Goldfinger title sequence and poster (she also played Dink in the movie), she appeared in the classic ‘A Hard Day’s Night,’ ‘Carry On Girls,’ ‘No Sex Please We’re British’ & many others, frequently sending up her own glamourpuss image.†...
(https://nypost.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2020/10/margaret-nolan-goldfinger-2.jpg?quality=90&strip=all&w=661)
More at NY Post (https://nypost.com/2020/10/12/margaret-nolan-goldfinger-bond-girl-dead-at-76/)
They couldn't make that JB flick today. Not in the same way. I remember when Bond meets another agent, he slaps Dink on her rear end and tells her to get lost because "man talk" will be going on.
The radical feminists and soy boys in the media would blow their collective stacks.
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Roberta Wright McCain
Oil heiress best known as John McCain's mother dies at 108
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/15/Roberta_McCain_at_the_1992_launching_of_USS_John_S._McCain_(DDG-56).jpg/220px-Roberta_McCain_at_the_1992_launching_of_USS_John_S._McCain_(DDG-56).jpg)
https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/obituaries/roberta-mccain-rebellious-heiress-navy-wife-and-mother-of-senator-dies-at-108/2020/10/12/0c40394c-c5dc-11df-94e1-c5afa35a9e59_story.html (https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/obituaries/roberta-mccain-rebellious-heiress-navy-wife-and-mother-of-senator-dies-at-108/2020/10/12/0c40394c-c5dc-11df-94e1-c5afa35a9e59_story.html)
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They couldn't make that JB flick today. Not in the same way. I remember when Bond meets another agent, he slaps Dink on her rear end and tells her to get lost because "man talk" will be going on.
The radical feminists and soy boys in the media would blow their collective stacks.
So true. Many of the movies from decades ago could not be made today. Blazing Saddles, one of my favorites, is another movie that if Mel Brooks tried to make it today, he would be run out of Hollywood on a rail. There would be riots. Thing is, Mel was poking fun at racists, white nationalists, the KKK, Nazis and others. The snowflakes today wouldn't get it.
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So true. Many of the movies from decades ago could not be made today. Blazing Saddles, one of my favorites, is another movie that if Mel Brooks tried to make it today, he would be run out of Hollywood on a rail. There would be riots. Thing is, Mel was poking fun at racists, white nationalists, the KKK, Nazis and others. The snowflakes today wouldn't get it.
They don't "get" sarcasm or satire at all. That's how we end up seeing hilarious "fact checks" of Babylon Bee articles.
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So true. Many of the movies from decades ago could not be made today. Blazing Saddles, one of my favorites, is another movie that if Mel Brooks tried to make it today, he would be run out of Hollywood on a rail. There would be riots. Thing is, Mel was poking fun at racists, white nationalists, the KKK, Nazis and others. The snowflakes today wouldn't get it.
I watched Gettysburg the other night - made in '93. There's no way even THAT movie would be made today.
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Roberta Wright McCain
Oil heiress best known as John McCain's mother dies at 108
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/15/Roberta_McCain_at_the_1992_launching_of_USS_John_S._McCain_(DDG-56).jpg/220px-Roberta_McCain_at_the_1992_launching_of_USS_John_S._McCain_(DDG-56).jpg)
https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/obituaries/roberta-mccain-rebellious-heiress-navy-wife-and-mother-of-senator-dies-at-108/2020/10/12/0c40394c-c5dc-11df-94e1-c5afa35a9e59_story.html (https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/obituaries/roberta-mccain-rebellious-heiress-navy-wife-and-mother-of-senator-dies-at-108/2020/10/12/0c40394c-c5dc-11df-94e1-c5afa35a9e59_story.html)
@jmyrlefuller
108! YIKES! She was sure made from strong stuff!
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@jmyrlefuller
108! YIKES! She was sure made from strong stuff!
Yep, this women was older than one my grandmothers. Pretty rare to get to that number.
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So true. Many of the movies from decades ago could not be made today. Blazing Saddles, one of my favorites, is another movie that if Mel Brooks tried to make it today, he would be run out of Hollywood on a rail.
@Applewood
Not a chance. Brooks is Jewish.
He would have a hell of a time trying to find financing and a production company to promote it,though.
Thing is, Mel was poking fun at racists, white nationalists, the KKK, Nazis and others. The snowflakes today wouldn't get it.
True,despite all the claims of enlightenment,most of today's "intellectuals" are incredibly small-minded.
BTW,I LOVED Brooks movie's,too. Blazing Saddles taught me to not to go see one while stoned. I laughed so hard I almost lost my wind and pissed my pants.
LOVED"Young Frankenstein",too! Marty Feldman ALWAYS cracked me up,and putting him in that role was a stroke of genius. LOVED the hell out of Madeline Kahn,too. That accent was hilarious as well as sexy.
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@jmyrlefuller
108! YIKES! She was sure made from strong stuff!
@sneakypete
Mrs. McCain was still traveling well into her 90s. Traveled a lot with her twin sister who died some years ago. Hell, I'm in my 60s and feeling like I'm getting too old to go to the supermarket, let alone to Europe or wherever all Mrs. McCain traveled.
Rest in peace, Mrs. McCain.
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So true. Many of the movies from decades ago could not be made today. Blazing Saddles, one of my favorites, is another movie that if Mel Brooks tried to make it today, he would be run out of Hollywood on a rail. There would be riots. Thing is, Mel was poking fun at racists, white nationalists, the KKK, Nazis and others. The snowflakes today wouldn't get it.
I showed it to a bunch of twenty year olds over twenty years ago, and they were mortified. They completely missed the humor, and the satire present and were triggered, for want of a better term. I was stunned, then, and I know it would be worse now. **nononono*
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@Applewood
Not a chance. Brooks is Jewish.
He would have a hell of a time trying to find financing and a production company to promote it,though.
True,despite all the claims of enlightenment,most of today's "intellectuals" are incredibly small-minded.
BTW,I LOVED Brooks movie's,too. Blazing Saddles taught me to not to go see one while stoned. I laughed so hard I almost lost my wind and pissed my pants.
LOVED"Young Frankenstein",too! Marty Feldman ALWAYS cracked me up,and putting him in that role was a stroke of genius. LOVED the hell out of Madeline Kahn,too. That accent was hilarious as well as sexy.
IMHO, "Young Frankenstein' was his best.
As for today's intellectuals, they are just a bunch of overeducated (indoctrinated) people who have decided they have the correct knee-jerk reactions.
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Conchata Ferrell Dies: Former 'Two and a Half Men' Co-Star Was 77
Actress passed away on October 12 at 12:30 PM PST, at the age of 77 as a result of complications following a cardiac arrest. She died peacefully surrounded by family at Sherman Oaks Hospital in Sherman Oaks, California.
Ferrell is probably best known for her role as no-nonsense housekeeper Berta on the hit CBS comedy Two and a Half Men. This role earned her two Supporting Actress in a Comedy Series Emmy nominations in 2005 and 2007.
“She was a beautiful human,†Two and a Half Men star Jon Cryer said following the news of Ferrell’s death. “Berta’s gruff exterior was an invention of the writers. Chatty’s warmth and vulnerability were her real strengths. I’m crying for the woman I’ll miss, and the joy she brought so many.†(You can see his tweet below.)
https://deadline.com/2020/10/conchata-ferrell-dead-two-and-a-half-men-co-star-77-1234596750/
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I remember seeing her in a TV show called “Hot L Baltimore†back when I was a kid. Norman Lear did it. She was really good in that.
RIP Berta. You gave us a lot of laughs on “Two and a half men†and other sitcoms.
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@sneakypete
Mrs. McCain was still traveling well into her 90s. Traveled a lot with her twin sister who died some years ago. Hell, I'm in my 60s and feeling like I'm getting too old to go to the supermarket, let alone to Europe or wherever all Mrs. McCain traveled.
Rest in peace, Mrs. McCain.
I couldn't agree with you more!
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I remember seeing her in a TV show called “Hot L Baltimore†back when I was a kid. Norman Lear did it. She was really good in that.
RIP Berta. You gave us a lot of laughs on “Two and a half men†and other sitcoms.
I remember Hot L Baltimore. Too bad it didn't last because I thought it was a great show.
Rest in peace, Miss Ferrell.
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@sneakypete
@Smokin Joe
Young Frankenstein was a hoot. Marty Feldman was funny just looking at him.
"Hump? What hump?"
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@sneakypete
@Smokin Joe
Young Frankenstein was a hoot. Marty Feldman was funny just looking at him.
"Hump? What hump?"
@Smokin Joe
Now I'm temped to rent it and watch it again,but afraid I just don't have enough wind to laugh that hard anymore.
I can barely handle my annual viewing of "The Rocky Horror Picture Show" on Halloween every year.
I consider the fact that Tim Curry didn't win an Oscar for Best Actor that year to be an actual crime.
He also appeared in 3 episodes of Criminal Minds as a serial killer,and that was maybe the best acting I had ever seen. He flat scared the hell out of me.
VERY underrated actor,and I can't figure out why.
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Tom Kennedy
Game show host dies at 93
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/03/Tom_kennedy_you_dont_say_host.jpg)
Kennedy was born James Narz. He and his brother, Jack Narz, both went into the entertainment industry (Jack also hosted a number of game shows); to avoid getting the two confused with each other, James took on the stage name Tom Kennedy. In an era when most game shows only lasted a few months, Kennedy ran through numerous hosting gigs, the longest being Name That Tune, in which Kennedy initially split hosting duties with Dennis James, then took over full-time; all in all, Kennedy lasted seven years on the show. Other prominent hosting gigs that lasted over a year included Split Second, Password Plus (where he replaced the late Allen Ludden), Whew!, Body Language and The Nighttime Price Is Right (a syndicated version of the still-on-the-air institution). Kennedy made a handful of efforts to produce his own game shows but none made it past the pilot stage.
Kennedy died October 7 following a long illness. He was among the last hosts from the golden age of game shows to still be alive prior to his death (the few remaining ones include Bob Barker, Peter Marshall and Bob Eubanks).
Obituary from WAVE-TV (https://www.wave3.com/2020/10/11/louisville-native-tv-host-tom-kennedy-dies/)
Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Kennedy_%28television_host%29)
Error 404 (Not Found)!!1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2eZscaCJvqo#)
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Tom Kennedy
Game show host dies at 93
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/03/Tom_kennedy_you_dont_say_host.jpg)
Trivia: Tom Kennedy and his older brother, Jack Narz, both announced for Betty White in the 1950s. Narz was the announcer/semi-narrator for White's early (and excellent) television comedy, Life with Elizabeth; Kennedy became the announcer for White's series of the later 1950s, A Date with the Angels.
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/41/Title_card_to_the_1950%27s_sitcom_Life_with_Elizabeth.jpg)
(https://ctva.biz/US/Comedy/DateWithTheAngels_title.jpg)
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Good Grief! Now I really feel old. I remember some of Tom Kennedy's game shows. Name That Tune of course, but I remember when Kathie Lee Gifford was the "La-La" vocalist (this was before she married Frank Gifford). Still don't know how anyone could name a tune in one note. You can give me a whole chorus and I probably couldn't name the song.
Anyway, rest in peace, Mr. Kennedy.
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Man more people we knew are dyeing that we never knew before.
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Rhonda Fleming, film star of ‘40s and ‘50s, dies at 97
Actress Rhonda Fleming, the fiery redhead who appeared with Burt Lancaster, Kirk Douglas, Charlton Heston, Ronald Reagan and other film stars of the 1940s and 1950s, has died. She was 97.
Fleming’s assistant Carla Sapon told The New York Times that Fleming died Wednesday in Santa Monica, California.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/entertainment/celebrities/2020/10/17/rhonda-fleming-film-star-40-s-and-50-s-dies-97/3693208001/ (https://www.usatoday.com/story/entertainment/celebrities/2020/10/17/rhonda-fleming-film-star-40-s-and-50-s-dies-97/3693208001/)
More info, including filmography:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhonda_Fleming (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhonda_Fleming)
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(https://static.hollywoodreporter.com/sites/default/files/2016/07/rhonda_fleming_.jpg)
Rhonda Fleming, the red-haired, green-eyed beauty who lit up the screen in such films as Spellbound, A Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur's Court and Gunfight at the O.K. Corral, has died. She was 97.
Fleming, who also sparkled in Out of the Past (1947), the first of her many appearances in fabulous film noirs, died Wednesday, her secretary Carla Sapon announced.
Not too far removed from attending Beverly Hills High School, Fleming appeared as a nymphomaniac in a mental institution in Alfred Hitchcock’s Spellbound (1945), then followed up by playing George Brent's assistant, among those who reside in a creepy mansion, in Robert Siodmak's dark suspense thriller The Spiral Staircase (1945). ...
Legend has it that a cinematographer, as an exercise, once tried to shoot her in a way that would make her look bad. No matter the angle or technique, he concluded, Fleming always came out picture-perfect.
Fleming was married to theater chain mogul Ted Mann (of Mann's Chinese Theatre fame) from 1978 until his death in January 2001, and together they were a philanthropic force in Southern California. ...
In 1991, she and Mann established the Rhonda Fleming Mann Clinic for Comprehensive Care at UCLA Medical Center, providing gynecologic and obstetric care to women, and they funded a resource center for women with cancer three years later. The couple also set up the Rhonda Fleming Mann Research Fellowship at the City of Hope.
"I'm not out to push me anymore," she told the Los Angeles Times in 1994. "These centers are in existence because, even though we had the best medical care, we had no psychological support. No one to turn to for the spiritual [support]. No environment that was pleasant to be in while she suffered so. There wasn't even a curtain in the examining room to hide personal things like your wig, or a prosthesis." ... The Hollywood Reporter (https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/index.php/news/rhonda-fleming-dead-star-big-912522)
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Thanks @mountaineer A much better obituary.
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I was just hoping to find a photo. :laugh:
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RIP Ms. Fleming
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I was just hoping to find a photo. :laugh:
That reminds me. Maybe I should post a pic of myself. If I die I might not get the chance to later.
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I was just hoping to find a photo. :laugh:
Well, I'm glad you did. I don't know how many people on this site know or knew who she was. Miss Fleming was a very striking woman. Did a lot of good work as an actress and in her later years in her charitable endeavors.
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I was just hoping to find a photo. :laugh:
https://www.google.com/search?source=univ&tbm=isch&q=rhonda+fleming&client=firefox-b-1-d&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiX6K77o7_sAhWEG80KHSB2DTYQjJkEegQICxAB&biw=1280&bih=882 (https://www.google.com/search?source=univ&tbm=isch&q=rhonda+fleming&client=firefox-b-1-d&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiX6K77o7_sAhWEG80KHSB2DTYQjJkEegQICxAB&biw=1280&bih=882)
https://www.gettyimages.com/detail/news-photo/rhonda-fleming-in-publicity-portrait-for-the-film-slightly-news-photo/159838538?adppopup=true (https://www.gettyimages.com/detail/news-photo/rhonda-fleming-in-publicity-portrait-for-the-film-slightly-news-photo/159838538?adppopup=true)
She was a knockout the year I was born, and one of those ladies who managed to stay beautiful through her later years.
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Rhonda Fleming was a real beautiful woman. Great actress too. Below are a few photos from IMDB.
https://m.media-amazon.com/images/M/MV5BNjlmODcwYjYtOTMzNy00NThkLTk4MzItNjEwNjMyNWVjYTI1XkEyXkFqcGdeQXVyMDI2NDg0NQ@@._V1_SY1000_CR0,0,789,1000_AL_.jpg
https://m.media-amazon.com/images/M/MV5BMTA5NzIzMjIzMDReQTJeQWpwZ15BbWU2MDg1MTkxNg@@._V1_.jpg
https://m.media-amazon.com/images/M/MV5BYjQ5ZDU4ZTAtZTRmOC00ZDQyLWIyNGUtMzVhOTIyNjIwMzE1XkEyXkFqcGdeQXVyMjU4NzU2OTA@._V1_.jpg
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The hits just keep on coming . . . RIP Spencer Davis, heart failure/pneumonia in a California hospital at 81 . . .
https://www.tmz.com/2020/10/20/spencer-davis-group-dead-at-81/ (https://www.tmz.com/2020/10/20/spencer-davis-group-dead-at-81/)
Error 404 (Not Found)!!1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQdFStANuJ8#)
Error 404 (Not Found)!!1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=POCUgBSVENQ#)
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Oh wow! Two of my favorite songs from way back when.
Rest in peace, Mr. Davis.
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The hits just keep on coming . . . RIP Spencer Davis, heart failure/pneumonia in a California hospital at 81 . . .
What a talent RIP
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I loved the band and am shocked he was 81!
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https://www.msn.com/en-us/tv/news/james-randi-magician-and-paranormal-debunker-dies-at-92/ar-BB1agOcj (https://www.msn.com/en-us/tv/news/james-randi-magician-and-paranormal-debunker-dies-at-92/ar-BB1agOcj)
James Randi, Magician and Paranormal Debunker, Dies at 92
James Randi, a famed magician known as "The Amazing Randi" and a scientific investigator who debunked sensational claims of paranormal and occult occurences — has died. He was 92.
The James Randi Foundation announced his passing in a tweet, saying he died of "age-related causes" on Tuesday.
Randi was remembered on Wednesday by magician Penn Jillette in a pair of tweets as an "inspiration, mentor and dear friend."
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By age 60, Randi had retired from magic and was one of the co-founders of the Committee for Skeptical Inquiry, or CSI. The committee responded to a rise of interest in the paranormal in the '70s and promoted scientific inquiry and critical thinking in the investigation of extraordinary or controversial claims.
Among one of Randi's more famous instances as a debunker — a word he said he disliked in favor of "investigator" — was of the religious televangelist Peter Popoff, who became famous in the mid-'80s for televised healing sermons in which he seemed to know intimate details of random attendees. Randi discovered that Popoff was using an electronic transmitter to get information about his subjects broadcast to him by his wife behind the scenes, and he then exposed the preacher on "The Tonight Show."
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The hits just keep on coming . . . RIP Spencer Davis, heart failure/pneumonia in a California hospital at 81 . . .
https://www.tmz.com/2020/10/20/spencer-davis-group-dead-at-81/ (https://www.tmz.com/2020/10/20/spencer-davis-group-dead-at-81/)
Error 404 (Not Found)!!1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQdFStANuJ8#)
Error 404 (Not Found)!!1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=POCUgBSVENQ#)
Ahh man, another member of "Old Aid" gone (that was Spencer on the top left).
(https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/marriedwithchildren/images/7/7f/We_are_the_old.jpg/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/340?cb=20140423161653)
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https://www.msn.com/en-us/tv/news/james-randi-magician-and-paranormal-debunker-dies-at-92/ar-BB1agOcj (https://www.msn.com/en-us/tv/news/james-randi-magician-and-paranormal-debunker-dies-at-92/ar-BB1agOcj)
James Randi, Magician and Paranormal Debunker, Dies at 92
@PeteS in CA
I can still remember how often the Amazing Randi entertained kids all around the New York metro area with his frequent gigs on Wonderama Sunday mornings, when Sonny Fox hosted the show. He was a kick.
RIP.
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More Rockers are dying than have ever died before. :(
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More Rockers are dying than have ever died before. :(
Yeah...but the rappers are next!
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https://www.msn.com/en-us/tv/news/james-randi-magician-and-paranormal-debunker-dies-at-92/ar-BB1agOcj (https://www.msn.com/en-us/tv/news/james-randi-magician-and-paranormal-debunker-dies-at-92/ar-BB1agOcj)
James Randi, Magician and Paranormal Debunker, Dies at 92
Loved watching the videos of him debunking the con artists.
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Loved watching the videos of him debunking the con artists.
Yes, James Randi was the essence of the expression "you can't con a con." He knew all the tricks, like Skarne on Cards (Goggle Skarne. He was great at teaching people how to catch cheaters at card games). He was really good at the craft, and that made him a pro at deconstructing shams. I think he made a major dent in The Amazing Kreskin.
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@PeteS in CA
I can still remember how often the Amazing Randi entertained kids all around the New York metro area with his frequent gigs on Wonderama Sunday mornings, when Sonny Fox hosted the show. He was a kick.
RIP.
I vaguely recall him on this but I had seen him on Kreskin. 92 is a good long run. RIP, Sir.
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https://www.msn.com/en-us/tv/news/james-randi-magician-and-paranormal-debunker-dies-at-92/ar-BB1agOcj (https://www.msn.com/en-us/tv/news/james-randi-magician-and-paranormal-debunker-dies-at-92/ar-BB1agOcj)
James Randi, Magician and Paranormal Debunker, Dies at 92
Hell just got a little more crowded.
He was of great value in discrediting charlatans, but toward the end of his life, he became increasingly bitter and hostile. No longer content on busting the faith healers and faux mystics, his militant atheism became unbearably obnoxious in the last couple decades of his life.
As for those who might criticize me for speaking ill of the dead... a twist on Pascal's wager: if he is right, he cannot hear my words against him (and because he is gay, he has no flesh and blood heirs to be offended), and if I am right, well, he is in Hell, so why should I apologize?
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@PeteS in CA
I can still remember how often the Amazing Randi entertained kids all around the New York metro area with his frequent gigs on Wonderama Sunday mornings, when Sonny Fox hosted the show. He was a kick.
RIP.
The New York Times has a pretty good obit.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/21/obituaries/james-randi-dead.html (https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/21/obituaries/james-randi-dead.html)
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Yes, James Randi was the essence of the expression "you can't con a con." He knew all the tricks, like Skarne on Cards (Goggle Skarne. He was great at teaching people how to catch cheaters at card games). He was really good at the craft, and that made him a pro at deconstructing shams. I think he made a major dent in The Amazing Kreskin.
I believe that it was Uri Geller that he really took off on.
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I believe that it was Uri Geller that he really took off on.
Uri got into the business of psychicly seeking oil deposits or such. Made money doing that.
Like Oil In a Madmans Face
(https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwjc6vbz4srsAhVJ7J4KHVxPBz8QFjACegQIAxAC&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.thisismoney.co.uk%2Fmoney%2Fcelebritymoney%2Farticle-6272567%2FUri-Geller-psychic-reveals-hes-spent-mind-bending-2m-house-spoon-collection.html&usg=AOvVaw2xm0IHmOrINFH78N5Jch28)
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I believe that it was Uri Geller that he really took off on.
That is correct. I watched him show Johnny Carson how to bend a spoon enclosed in a glass cylinder. I think that was who I was thinking of upthread...
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Uri got into the business of psychicly seeking oil deposits or such. Made money doing that.
Like Oil In a Madmans Face
(https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwjc6vbz4srsAhVJ7J4KHVxPBz8QFjACegQIAxAC&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.thisismoney.co.uk%2Fmoney%2Fcelebritymoney%2Farticle-6272567%2FUri-Geller-psychic-reveals-hes-spent-mind-bending-2m-house-spoon-collection.html&usg=AOvVaw2xm0IHmOrINFH78N5Jch28)
How many legless reptilian partners did he have?
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Ahh man, another member of "Old Aid" gone (that was Spencer on the top left).
(https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/marriedwithchildren/images/7/7f/We_are_the_old.jpg/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/340?cb=20140423161653)
@dfwgator
He may be gone,but it is unlikely he will ever be forgotten.
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The New York Times has a pretty good obit.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/21/obituaries/james-randi-dead.html (https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/21/obituaries/james-randi-dead.html)
Indeed. :beer:
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Jerry Jeff Walker, age 78:
(https://images.sk-static.com/images/media/profile_images/artists/477846/huge_avatar)
Jerry back in his early days...
https://www.statesman.com/entertainment/20201024/jerry-jeff-walker-austin-country-music-legend-dies-at-78 (https://www.statesman.com/entertainment/20201024/jerry-jeff-walker-austin-country-music-legend-dies-at-78)
Jerry Jeff Walker, who moved to Austin after becoming famous with the song “Mr. Bojangles†and helped change the Austin music landscape in the 1970s, died Friday evening after an extended battle with throat cancer. He was 78.
Walker’s wife of 46 years, Susan Walker, confirmed Saturday morning that Jerry Jeff died around 6 p.m. Friday at Dell Seton Medical Center at the University of Texas. “He was at home until an hour before his passing,†she said. “He went very peacefully, which we were extremely grateful for.â€
Walker had been dealing with throat cancer for several years and had nearly died in 2017. He rallied to finish a new album and played more shows, but a downturn in his health more recently resulted in difficulties with speaking and eating.
Born Ronald Clyde Crosby on March 16, 1942, in Oneonta, N.Y., Walker wrote “Mr. Bojangles†in the mid-1960s after a night in a New Orleans jail where he met a man who “danced a lick across the cell.†Walker released the song as the title track of a 1968 solo album, shortly after he left the New York band Circus Maximus. In 1971, the Nitty Gritty Dirt Band took “Mr. Bojangles†to No. 9 on the pop charts. More than 100 other artists also recorded the song, including Bob Dylan, Sammy Davis Jr., Nina Simone and Neil Diamond.
Also:
https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-country/jerry-jeff-walker-mr-bojangles-outlaw-country-dead-obituary-1080617/ (https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-country/jerry-jeff-walker-mr-bojangles-outlaw-country-dead-obituary-1080617/)
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Jerry Jeff Walker, age 78:
(https://images.sk-static.com/images/media/profile_images/artists/477846/huge_avatar)
Jerry back in his early days...
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Like to have a dime everytime back in the mid '70's when I was snookered, and singing along with "Up Against the Wall Redneck Mother"
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Like to have a dime everytime back in the mid '70's when I was snookered, and singing along with "Up Against the Wall Redneck Mother"
Yeah you and me, both! R.I.P. Jerry Jeff!
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Like to have a dime everytime back in the mid '70's when I was snookered, and singing along with "Up Against the Wall Redneck Mother"
@catfish1957
No kidding! It got to the point the rednecks would run for the parking lot at the first bar being played.
Mostly by "New Riders of the Purple Sage",who I have always thought did it the best.
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A song that Jerry Jeff did, later made famous by Confederate Railroad:
Error 404 (Not Found)!!1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVUGCdTVpug#)
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Jerry Jeff's death hurts my heart. I loved the guy.
The song I requested for my retirement party was his version of Guy Clark's L.A. Freeway. It's pretty exuberant in parts and not as pensive as when Clark sings it.
If I can just get off of this LA Freeway without getting killed or caught.
Down the road in a cloud of smoke
To some land that I have bought.
And I did!!!
RIP JJ.
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Like to have a dime everytime back in the mid '70's when I was snookered, and singing along with "Up Against the Wall Redneck Mother"
You and me both.
Sad day.
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Like to have a dime everytime back in the mid '70's when I was snookered, and singing along with "Up Against the Wall Redneck Mother"
LOL! That's right. :beer:
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Yeah you and me, both! R.I.P. Jerry Jeff!
Error 404 (Not Found)!!1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sLAuzVb-C_o#)
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Billy Joe Shaver died....
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Lou Pallo, member of Les Paul Trio and 'man of a million chords,' dies at 86 (https://www.northjersey.com/story/news/2020/10/28/lou-pallo-les-paul-trio-acclaimed-north-jersey-guitarist-dies/6052583002/)
Guitarist Lou Pallo, who anchored the Les Paul Trio for decades and was once described by Keith Richards as "the man of a million chords," died on Wednesday. He was 86.
A Haskell (NJ) resident, Pallo also was part of the unofficial "Jersey Guitar Mafia" that ruled New York-area recording sessions in the 1950s and 60s.
They got their name from the legendary Paul, who often staged late-night recording sessions in his home studio in Mahwah. Paul will tell people, "You couldn't do a session without calling one of those guys," including Bucky Pizzarelli, who died in April of COVID complications in his Saddle River home.
Other musicians called Pallo "the man of a million inversions" and marveled at his technique as a rhythm guitarist for Paul. But Pallo played dazzling lead lines as well, on both guitar and mandolin.
He never knew it, but Lou Pallo taught me to play "Begin the Beguine" on a guitar---when he rolled out his signature model Gibson Les Paul guitar, he played the number with a drumless trio. I picked a couple of his things up and then ended up figuring out my own version. And I love playing that song as much as I love playing my normal array of jazzy blues.
So grazie, signor Pallo, for that, too. I'm also proud to play your signature model guitar:
(https://www.mylespaul.com/media/20190725_222044-jpg.110794/full)
RIP.
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Lou Pallo, member of Les Paul Trio and 'man of a million chords,' dies at 86 (https://www.northjersey.com/story/news/2020/10/28/lou-pallo-les-paul-trio-acclaimed-north-jersey-guitarist-dies/6052583002/)
Guitarist Lou Pallo, who anchored the Les Paul Trio for decades and was once described by Keith Richards as "the man of a million chords," died on Wednesday. He was 86.
A Haskell (NJ) resident, Pallo also was part of the unofficial "Jersey Guitar Mafia" that ruled New York-area recording sessions in the 1950s and 60s.
They got their name from the legendary Paul, who often staged late-night recording sessions in his home studio in Mahwah. Paul will tell people, "You couldn't do a session without calling one of those guys," including Bucky Pizzarelli, who died in April of COVID complications in his Saddle River home.
Other musicians called Pallo "the man of a million inversions" and marveled at his technique as a rhythm guitarist for Paul. But Pallo played dazzling lead lines as well, on both guitar and mandolin.
He never knew it, but Lou Pallo taught me to play "Begin the Beguine" on a guitar---when he rolled out his signature model Gibson Les Paul guitar, he played the number with a drumless trio. I picked a couple of his things up and then ended up figuring out my own version. And I love playing that song as much as I love playing my normal array of jazzy blues.
So grazie, signor Pallo, for that, too. I'm also proud to play your signature model guitar:
(https://www.mylespaul.com/media/20190725_222044-jpg.110794/full)
RIP.
Nice set up, with the front soap bar pick up, and the humbucker in the back.
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Nice set up, with the front soap bar pick up, and the humbucker in the back.
@GrouchoTex
Pallo consulted with Gibson when the company wanted to make the model. The pickup array; the square-inlay fretboard a la the Les Paul Custom, were both his. So was building the guitar otherwise along the body weight and neck shape/thickness of the 1959 Les Paul Standard. He did reject Gibson's original idea for the model that they put his signature and not Les Paul's on the headstock. Pallo wouldn't let anything suggesting disrespect toward Paul to appear on the guitar. (They were friends and musical partners for three decades.) So he suggested and Gibson agreed that his signature, far smaller, should appear in the inlay at the twelfth fret.
Gibson produced the guitar in a limited run of 400 instruments in 2011. The run included a black pickup cover (at the neck) and frame (at the bridge), black volume and tone knobs, and a black toggle switch chip. I saw a subsequent interview with Lou Pallo in which he said he'd preferred the colours you see on my guitar. When I saw that, I got curious---I went to one of those sites where you can design your own guitar. I chose the Les Paul designers. Then, I did one with the same black top but the colours of the cover, frame, knobs, and chip you see on my instrument. I saw why Pallo preferred that---it looked so great, I made the changes on my guitar.
My guitar is also number 31 in the limited run. (Gibson painted the numbers on the back of the headstock.) I acquired it in 2016, five years after the guitar was manufactured---but to my absolute shock, the seller who put the instrument for sale on Reverb informed me it was new old stock: nobody had even touched the guitar for the six years it was in their store, other than to clean and maintain it. And for the kind of jazzy blues I play, this guitar is as good as it gets when you run both pickups together through a Fender amplifier with nothing in between but a volume pedal.
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Billy Joe Shaver died....
Billy Joe Shaver, Seminal Outlaw-Country Songwriter, Dead at 81 (https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-country/billy-joe-shaver-songwriter-dead-obituary-1082610/)
Billy Joe Shaver, the outlaw-country music pioneer who wrote some of the genre’s greatest songs, died Wednesday in Waco, Texas, after suffering a stroke. He was 81. Connie Nelson, a friend of Shaver’s, confirmed his death to Rolling Stone.
Shaver’s hard-lived career classics included “Honky Tonk Heroes,†“Georgia on a Fast Train,†“Old Five and Dimers Like Me,†and “Live Forever.†He wrote nine out of the 10 songs on Waylon Jennings’ 1973 outlaw-country breakthrough Honky Tonk Heroes; Kris Kristofferson, Johnny Cash, and Elvis Presley all recorded his songs; and in 2010, Willie Nelson called him “the greatest living songwriter.â€
Excerpted, much more at the link: https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-country/billy-joe-shaver-songwriter-dead-obituary-1082610/ (https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-country/billy-joe-shaver-songwriter-dead-obituary-1082610/)
Best line in the article:
That same year Shaver stopped into a Lorena, Texas, bar for a beer with his former wife Wanda, and ended up in an altercation with a patron. Shaver testified the man was rude to his wife and told Shaver to “shut the f*** up.†After the two went outside, witnesses testified Shaver asked the victim, “Where do you want it?†and then pointed a .22 pistol at his cheek and pulled the trigger. Shaver claimed self-defense and was acquitted. “I am very sorry about the incident,†Shaver said afterward. “Hopefully, things will work out where we become friends enough so that he gives me back my bullet.â€
Billy Joe Shaver performs "Live Forever" at Farm Aid 1994:
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Leanza Cornett, Miss America who was crusading AIDS activist, dies at 49
Amy Argetsinger
17 mins ago In 1992, Leanza Cornett was a part-time college student, a full-time singing mermaid at Walt Disney World in Orlando and an ambivalent contestant preparing for the Miss Florida pageant.
She was advised to find a cause, a signature issue to champion if she were crowned.
For the previous year, she had been volunteering with young AIDS patients. When she informed local pageant directors that she wanted public awareness of the disease as her issue, they winced and asked if she had a second choice.
She recalled telling them, “You know what, I don’t care. If this is not OK, this is not an organization I want to be a part of.â€
Months later, Ms. Cornett was named Miss America 1993 — and turned her year-long reign into a crusade to bring attention to AIDS and promote safe sex. ...
Ms. Cornett, 49, who went on to a career as a television host, died Oct. 28 at a hospital in Jacksonville, Fla., after suffering a serious head injury two weeks earlier in a fall at her home in that city, according to Elizabeth Tobin Kurtz, a longtime friend. ...
WashPoo via MSN (https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/leanza-cornett-miss-america-who-was-crusading-aids-activist-dies-at-49/ar-BB1awhOJ?li=BBnbcA1)
(https://www.etonline.com/sites/default/files/styles/max_1280x720/public/images/2020-10/cornett.jpg?h=c673cd1c&itok=J2QNruTI)
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49 is so young....
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What a waste.... 8888crybaby
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Billy Joe Shaver, Seminal Outlaw-Country Songwriter, Dead at 81 (https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-country/billy-joe-shaver-songwriter-dead-obituary-1082610/)
Billy Joe Shaver, the outlaw-country music pioneer who wrote some of the genre’s greatest songs, died Wednesday in Waco, Texas, after suffering a stroke. He was 81. Connie Nelson, a friend of Shaver’s, confirmed his death to Rolling Stone.
Shaver’s hard-lived career classics included “Honky Tonk Heroes,†“Georgia on a Fast Train,†“Old Five and Dimers Like Me,†and “Live Forever.†He wrote nine out of the 10 songs on Waylon Jennings’ 1973 outlaw-country breakthrough Honky Tonk Heroes; Kris Kristofferson, Johnny Cash, and Elvis Presley all recorded his songs; and in 2010, Willie Nelson called him “the greatest living songwriter.â€
Excerpted, much more at the link: https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-country/billy-joe-shaver-songwriter-dead-obituary-1082610/ (https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-country/billy-joe-shaver-songwriter-dead-obituary-1082610/)
Best line in the article:
Billy Joe Shaver performs "Live Forever" at Farm Aid 1994:
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Thanks @Ghost Bear
"Live Forever" is one of my favorite songs.
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Leanza Cornett, Miss America who was crusading AIDS activist, dies at 49
That is a shame, very noble person.
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Travis Roy, Who Inspired Others After Life-Altering Hockey Injury At BU, Dies At 45
October 29, 2020 at 6:59 pm
BOSTON (CBS) – Travis Roy, who was paralyzed during his first shift with the Boston University hockey team and went on to raise money for those living with spinal cord injuries, died Thursday.
Roy was paralyzed from the neck down Just 11 seconds into his freshman debut with the team at Walter Brown Arena on Oct. 20, 1995.
While the accident changed his life forever, Roy decided to focus his efforts on helping others with spinal cord injuries as an activist and spokesman. ...
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Full story at WBZ, Boston (https://boston.cbslocal.com/2020/10/29/travis-roy-death-boston-university-spinal-cord-injury-advocate/)
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Wow. He just inspired me. Rest In Peace sir. Bless you.
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ESPN aired a documentary on him. What a brave young man.
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Travis Roy, Who Inspired Others After Life-Altering Hockey Injury At BU, Dies At 45
October 29, 2020 at 6:59 pm
BOSTON (CBS) – Travis Roy, who was paralyzed during his first shift with the Boston University hockey team and went on to raise money for those living with spinal cord injuries, died Thursday.
Roy was paralyzed from the neck down Just 11 seconds into his freshman debut with the team at Walter Brown Arena on Oct. 20, 1995.
While the accident changed his life forever, Roy decided to focus his efforts on helping others with spinal cord injuries as an activist and spokesman. ...
(https://boston.cbslocal.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/3859903/2015/10/gettyimages-459322956.jpg?resize=420,237)
Full story at WBZ, Boston (https://boston.cbslocal.com/2020/10/29/travis-roy-death-boston-university-spinal-cord-injury-advocate/)
Very inspiring
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It’s just breaking now, but Sir Sean Connery has died.
888cryingkitty
RIP James Bond.
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It’s just breaking now, but Sir Sean Connery has died.
888cryingkitty
RIP James Bond.
RIP, indeed, and not just James Bond, but the dozens of other roles he played as well...(One ping only...)
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Sean Connery: James Bond actor dies aged 90
Sir Sean Connery has died at the age of 90, his family has said.
The Scottish actor was best known for his portrayal of James Bond, being the first to bring the role to the big screen and appearing in seven of the spy thrillers.
Sir Sean died overnight in his sleep, while in the Bahamas. It is understood he had been unwell for some time.
His acting career spanned decades and his many awards included an Oscar, two Bafta awards and three Golden Globes.
Sir Sean's other films included The Hunt for Red October, Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade and The Rock.
https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-54761824 (https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-54761824)
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RIP, indeed, and not just James Bond, but the dozens of other roles he played as well...(One ping only...)
Oh of course. He was a great actor and had an incredible career.
He will live forever on film, like all movie stars do. That’s a pretty good legacy. Imho.
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Sir Sean died overnight in his sleep, while in the Bahamas.
Good actor. RIP
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It’s just breaking now, but Sir Sean Connery has died.
888cryingkitty
RIP James Bond.
He was an acting icon if ever there was one.
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RIP to the actor and former @RoyalNavy Sailor, Sir Sean Connery, who has died aged 90. He served in the RN
before becoming one of its most famous fictional commanders, James Bond.
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Source: https://twitter.com/OnthisdayRN/status/1322518968800870404/photo/2
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Sean Connery will always be THE James Bond to me. Nothing against all the other actors in that role. It's just that for me Connery defined James Bond and no one else would ever live up to him as Bond.
Best non-Bond movie performance IMO was in The Untouchables and oddly, I really didn't like that movie. Maybe it was because I loved the old TV series and this interpretation was nothing like it. But even in this turkey of a movie, Connery shined. It's a mark of a really good actor -- being able to give a stellar performance in an otherwise lousy movie.
Rest in peace, Sir Sean.
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I would have paid to listen to him read the phone book. Great voice.
And a fine actor.
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Connery was one of the few tough guy actors who was almost as tough in real life as the people he depicted on the screen.
As a young man Connery got a reputation among the gangs of Edinburgh as being a "hard man" after dispatching a few supposedly tough gang members with his fists.
As a young actor he punched out mobster tough guy Johnny Stompanato who was annoying Lana Turner in Connery's presence. He had to leave America after doing that.
The greatest Bond ever.
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Connery was one of the few tough guy actors who was almost as tough in real life as the people he depicted on the screen.
As a young man Connery got a reputation among the gangs of Edinburgh as being a "hard man" after dispatching a few supposedly tough gang members with his fists.
As a young actor he punched out mobster tough guy Johnny Stompanato who was annoying Lana Turner in Connery's presence. He had to leave America after doing that.
The greatest Bond ever.
About Stompanato and Turner: The story goes that Stompanato thought Turner and Connery were having an affair; so he came to the set where the two actors were working and pointed a gun at Connery. Connery disarmed him and knocked him out. Stompanato was then barred from the set, but afterwards, Connery received death threats from individuals linked to Stompanato's boss, Mickey Cohen. So that I guess is when Connery had to leave the US and lie low for a while.
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I would have paid to listen to him read the phone book. Great voice.
And a fine actor.
Surprised so many took the chance afterwards to play Bond. Losing proposition, he was the Gold Standard.
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RIP.
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"Time flies; I didn't realize that he was that old -- he was the original James Bond and IMHO the best! RIP
Sean Connery, Scottish actor who played James Bond in 7 movies, dead at 90
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RIP Mr. Connery.
The film I enjoyed him in most (admittedly, I haven't seen them all, and I never was a big fan of the Bond films) was "The Hunt For Red October".
The Daily Mail had a good article with a lot of pics:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8900201/James-Bond-actor-Sir-Sean-Connery-dies-aged-90.html (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8900201/James-Bond-actor-Sir-Sean-Connery-dies-aged-90.html)
Someone over at TOS put up a nice post with pics from his films, early-to-later:
http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3900240/posts (http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3900240/posts)
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RIP, indeed, and not just James Bond, but the dozens of other roles he played as well...(One ping only...)
One of the greatest movies ever made IMO.
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Sean Connery was a great actor. I liked him in everything he did.
My favorite by him was The Russia House. Great role for him. He was great with Michele Pfeiffer.
I also thought he was great in The Hunt for Red October and Medicine Man.
I thought his best Bond movie was the last, Never Say Never Again
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Alex Trebeck has died
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The answer is: It's times like this when social media needs dislike buttons. The correct question: What is the death of Alex Trebek? He hosted a genuinely classic game, and he fought an insidious killer with courage. Lord, escort him gently to the Elysian Fields.
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Alex Trebek, beloved 'Jeopardy!' host, dies after cancer battle at age 80
Longtime "Jeopardy!" host Alex Trebek, adored by generations of trivia mavens who instinctively shout out questions to answers, died on Sunday following his battle with cancer.
The official "Jeopardy!" Twitter account confirmed the news. He was 80.
Trebek stunned fans of the high-minded game show last year, announcing he had been diagnosed with stage 4 pancreatic cancer.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/alex-trebek-beloved-jeopardy-host-dies-after-cancer-battle-age-n990066 (https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/alex-trebek-beloved-jeopardy-host-dies-after-cancer-battle-age-n990066)
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I’m so bummed but I guess I’ll take “ I know who just got into heaven for 400â€
8888crybaby
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Alex Trebeck has died
OH NO! I've watched him for years. He's a great guy...he'll be missed.
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Trebek was a fighter. I will always admire him for that.
May he rest in peace and may his family, friends and fans find comfort.
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I’m so bummed but I guess I’ll take “ I know who just got into heaven for 400â€
8888crybaby
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"Nice of you to join me, Trebek!"
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I'll take Rest in Peace and Godspeed for $2,000, Alex.
He looked to be doing well enough right up through the most recent episodes just this Friday (which I presume are recorded a few months' ahead of time).
Jeopardy! and Wheel of Fortune have become the only things I'll turn on the tv for for the last few years. No matter who is found to replace him (if they continue the show), it will just never seem the same.
A short time back, within the last couple of weeks, there was a Jeopardy! topic with clues hosted by Ken Jennings. After the category was finished, Alex faked a look back over his shoulder with a quip about his space being filled. Perhaps he knew his time was growing short.
"All the Daily Doubles are done".
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He fought a good fight. I'll miss him greatly.
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Jeopardy! and Wheel of Fortune have become the only things I'll turn on the tv for for the last few years. No matter who is found to replace him (if they continue the show), it will just never seem the same.
They said the same thing about Art Fleming. :shrug:
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https://www.tmz.com/2020/11/08/alex-trebek-jeopardy-host-dead-dies-stage-4-pancreatic-cancer/ (https://www.tmz.com/2020/11/08/alex-trebek-jeopardy-host-dead-dies-stage-4-pancreatic-cancer/)
ALEX TREBEK
DEAD AT 80
Photo gallery (30 images):
https://www.tmz.com/photos/2011/08/11/3896-alex-trebek-the-man-behind-the-moustache/ (https://www.tmz.com/photos/2011/08/11/3896-alex-trebek-the-man-behind-the-moustache/)
The TV icon had been battling stage 4 pancreatic cancer since announcing the news back in March 2019. He immediately started chemo after the diagnosis but made no plans to retire and continued hosting his game show ... as impressively as ever.
Trebek powered through for a full year -- despite what he called "massive attacks of great depression that made me wonder if it was really worth fighting on" -- because he said he realized giving up on life would be a betrayal to his wife, God and other cancer patients.
He pointed out the odds of surviving a second year with pancreatic cancer were just 7 percent, but he hoped he'd be able to celebrate that milestone too. Sadly, he took a turn for the worse.
Alex continued to host "Jeopardy!" ... recently beginning his 37th season, and earlier this year, he shot the epic 'Greatest of All Time' tournament on prime-time television.
Ken Jennings, who won that 'G.O.A.T.' tournament reacted to Alex's passing, saying, "Alex wasn't just the best ever at what he did. He was also a lovely and deep decent man, and I'm grateful for every minute I got to spend with him."
Ken's competitor James Holzhauer added, "It was one of the great privileges of my life to spend time with this courageous man while he fought the battle of his life. You will never be replaced in our hearts, Alex."
"Jeopardy!" says Alex hosted episodes will air through December 25th. His last day taping in the studio was October 29.
The shows executive producer, Mike Richards, says, "Working beside him for the past year and a half as he heroically continued to host "Jeopardy!" was an incredible honor. His belief in the importance of the show and his willingness to push himself to perform at the highest level was the most inspiring demonstration of courage I have ever seen."
More at URL above...
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For those wondering... they have enough episodes to run through Christmas (his last episodes were taped last week). It's going to be awkward watching to see if he declines.
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Alex Trebeck has died
Geez, what a week.. :crying:
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They said the same thing about Art Fleming. :shrug:
And Fleming agreed: he liked Trebek as host, but he didn't like the modern game (he thought the questions were too easy—and seeing some of the early episodes from the 80s, I can see his point, but I think it's tougher now—and he hated the Hollywood glitz).
Fleming's Jeopardy! was a parlor game with a genial host in Fleming. Trebek's was a high-tech quiz with an intellectual newsman at the helm. Both were good in their own ways.
I'll also note that Trebek was one of the old-school newsmen before he got into game shows: he wasn't biased or agenda-driven.
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OH NO! I've watched him for years. He's a great guy...he'll be missed.
The original Jeopardy! with Art Fleming ran nearly 11 years, and I do remember that version (Fleming also hosted a revival attempt in the late 70s that only lasted about 6 months). But with 36+ years, Trebek probably refined the show host role for the show, and possibly the style range for game shows generally. I don't know if he was smart enough to be a contestant, but he was smart and very genial in relating to the contestants.
The show traditionally had a new intro every year, and when I saw that the current season's opener was like a slide show that included pix from across the Trebek era's history I started wondering ... and when they had Ken Jennings doing some guesty stuff ... I wondered if it was foreshadowing.
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And Fleming agreed: he liked Trebek as host, but he didn't like the modern game (he thought the questions were too easy—and seeing some of the early episodes from the 80s, I can see his point, but I think it's tougher now—and he hated the Hollywood glitz).
Fleming's Jeopardy! was a parlor game with a genial host in Fleming. Trebek's was a high-tech quiz with an intellectual newsman at the helm. Both were good in their own ways.
I'll also note that Trebek was one of the old-school newsmen before he got into game shows: he wasn't biased or agenda-driven.
Yes, Trebek got away with it because he changed the parameters to blaze his own trail. Truly a remarkable man.
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ICYMI: This was Art Fleming's own Jeopardy! farewell. Ignore the jerk who posted it and called Alex Trebek, erroneously, a pompous ass . . .
Jeopardy! with Art Fleming, 3 January 1975
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I've been watching this show since Art Fleming. But Alex has been more prominent.
I truly hope they give KenJen the gig. I think he would be good at it...and he's young enough for us Jeop addicts to get really attached him. Although I must admit, I already have a strong attachment to the guy.
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Who was the best game show host, ever?
(What did I win?)
R.I.P. Mr Trebek, and thanks.
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I'll take Rest in Peace and Godspeed for $2,000, Alex.
He looked to be doing well enough right up through the most recent episodes just this Friday (which I presume are recorded a few months' ahead of time).
Jeopardy! and Wheel of Fortune have become the only things I'll turn on the tv for for the last few years. No matter who is found to replace him (if they continue the show), it will just never seem the same.
A short time back, within the last couple of weeks, there was a Jeopardy! topic with clues hosted by Ken Jennings. After the category was finished, Alex faked a look back over his shoulder with a quip about his space being filled. Perhaps he knew his time was growing short.
"All the Daily Doubles are done".
If that a**wipe Jennings is the new host, the wife and I are done with Jeopardy.
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And Fleming agreed: he liked Trebek as host, but he didn't like the modern game (he thought the questions were too easy—and seeing some of the early episodes from the 80s, I can see his point, but I think it's tougher now—and he hated the Hollywood glitz).
Fleming's Jeopardy! was a parlor game with a genial host in Fleming. Trebek's was a high-tech quiz with an intellectual newsman at the helm. Both were good in their own ways.
I'll also note that Trebek was one of the old-school newsmen before he got into game shows: he wasn't biased or agenda-driven.
I know one thing...if I ever got on the show, I'd bone up on Shakespeare pretty heavy. But I'd get killed on modern pop culture. Don't watch modern tv shows, don't listen to modern music, and rarely watch any modern movies. 1985 is about as modern as I get. Anything newer than 30 years is lost on me.
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Who was the best game show host, ever?
(What did I win?)
R.I.P. Mr Trebek, and thanks.
@Smokin Joe
No insult to Trebek intended,but the answer to that one is Groucho Marx. Nobody else even came close.
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@Smokin Joe
No insult to Trebek intended,but the answer to that one is Groucho Marx. Nobody else even came close.
You bet your life!
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I've been watching this show since Art Fleming. But Alex has been more prominent.
I truly hope they give KenJen the gig. I think he would be good at it...and he's young enough for us Jeop addicts to get really attached him. Although I must admit, I already have a strong attachment to the guy.
I think Jennings's politics (he's, somewhat surprisingly given that he's a Utah Mormon, a pretty hardcore liberal) might be a problem, but he does have the knowledge and the charisma to do the job well.
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You bet your life!
Umm. Where’s the duck? @Cyber Liberty
@sneakypete
I’m just teasing
Edit: changed to duck
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I think Jennings's politics (he's, somewhat surprisingly given that he's a Utah Mormon, a pretty hardcore liberal) might be a problem, but he does have the knowledge and the charisma to do the job well.
@jmyrlefuller
Why is that surprising?
Ever heard of a guy named Mitch Romney?
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Umm. Where’s the duck? @Cyber Liberty
@sneakypete
I’m just teasing
Edit: changed to duck
@Gefn
Welcome to You Bet Your Life. Say the secret word and divide $100, it's a common word, something you see every day . . .
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goat wrote:
"But I'd get killed on modern pop culture. Don't watch modern tv shows, don't listen to modern music, and rarely watch any modern movies. 1985 is about as modern as I get. Anything newer than 30 years is lost on me."
I would be the same.
Whenever there are categories like that, I'm totally lost.
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https://thefederalist.com/2020/11/08/with-alex-trebek-we-say-goodbye-to-an-era-in-television/
With Alex Trebek, We Say Goodbye To An Era In Television
By Christopher Jacobs
The audience takes its seats, members murmuring amongst themselves. Some comment on how the soundstage looks smaller in person than on the small screen, an optical illusion caused by wide-angle lenses. Others note the set’s cool temperatures, intended to offset the stage lights’ heat. As the production staff provide information and instructions about what they are about to see, the guests just take it all in.
Preliminaries concluded—audience briefed, crew in position—the theme music starts, the lights come up, and the cameras roll. The show’s voice for nearly two score years intones the introduction, rising with the audience’s applause to reach his crescendo:
“And now, here is the host of ‘Jeopardy!’—Alex Trebek!â€
More at URL above...
Nice article by a former Jeopardy! contestant...
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https://thefederalist.com/2020/11/08/with-alex-trebek-we-say-goodbye-to-an-era-in-television/
The audience takes its seats, members murmuring amongst themselves. Some comment on how the soundstage looks smaller in person than on the small screen, an optical illusion caused by wide-angle lenses. Others note the set’s cool temperatures, intended to offset the stage lights’ heat. As the production staff provide information and instructions about what they are about to see, the guests just take it all in.
Preliminaries concluded—audience briefed, crew in position—the theme music starts, the lights come up, and the cameras roll. The show’s voice for nearly two score years intones the introduction, rising with the audience’s applause to reach his crescendo:
“And now, here is the host of ‘Jeopardy!’—Alex Trebek!â€
More at URL above...
Nice article by a former Jeopardy! contestant...
The audience does this routine for five solid hours or more. They'd tape 5 or more shows in one day.
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Alex Trebeck has died
Words escape me. RIP good sir.
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https://www.christianpost.com/news/bishop-harry-jackson-jr-conservative-christian-has-died.html (https://www.christianpost.com/news/bishop-harry-jackson-jr-conservative-christian-has-died.html)
Bishop Harry Jackson Jr., conservative Christian activist and Trump evangelical adviser, has died
Bishop Harry Jackson, Jr., a megachurch pastor and longtime conservative Christian activist who served as an evangelical adviser to President Donald Trump, has died at age 66.
The leadership of Hope Christian Church of Beltsville, Maryland, where Jackson served as senior pastor, posted a statement to Facebook on Monday announcing his passing.
“It is with a heavy heart that we notify you that our beloved Bishop Harry R. Jackson, Jr. has transitioned to be with the Lord on November 9, 2020,†stated the church.
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The Rev. Franklin Graham, head of the Billy Graham Evangelistic Association, took to Facebook to give condolences, saying that a “great man of God has been called to heaven.â€
“Bishop Jackson was a true friend of the Gospel of Jesus Christ. He was with us in Washington on September 26 for Prayer March 2020 where he led in prayer for Vice President Mike Pence and our nation, and then joined me as we went to the Oval Office to pray for President Donald J. Trump,†stated Graham.
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https://www.christianpost.com/news/bishop-harry-jackson-jr-conservative-christian-has-died.html (https://www.christianpost.com/news/bishop-harry-jackson-jr-conservative-christian-has-died.html)
Bishop Harry Jackson Jr., conservative Christian activist and Trump evangelical adviser, has died
@PeteS in CA
66 is young to die these days for someone who is presumed to be devoutly religious.
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66, in the US, is fairly young regardless of one's religiosity or lack thereof. His cause of death has not been announced, possibly not yet determined.
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@PeteS in CA
66 is young to die these days for someone who is presumed to be devoutly religious.
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Call it Luck.
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Call it Luck.
@bigheadfred
I'd call it bad luck.
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I
Call it Luck.
"If he didn't have bad luck, he wouldn't have any luck at all."
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This WashPost article gives a lot more biographical info about Bishop Jackson, https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/bishop-harry-jackson-jr-pentecostal-pastor-and-spiritual-adviser-to-trump-dies-at-67/ar-BB1aTnqd?fbclid=IwAR1DumHL0S9SK9Q32apWjv-vB7hcgue_RQOSXGFeddB6CQ4P2EFzQZ3zKZI (https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/bishop-harry-jackson-jr-pentecostal-pastor-and-spiritual-adviser-to-trump-dies-at-67/ar-BB1aTnqd?fbclid=IwAR1DumHL0S9SK9Q32apWjv-vB7hcgue_RQOSXGFeddB6CQ4P2EFzQZ3zKZI) .
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https://www.christianpost.com/news/bishop-harry-jackson-jr-conservative-christian-has-died.html (https://www.christianpost.com/news/bishop-harry-jackson-jr-conservative-christian-has-died.html)
Bishop Harry Jackson Jr., conservative Christian activist and Trump evangelical adviser, has died
That sucks, bigtime. Harry Jackson was a giant.
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I'd call it bad luck.
We all die. It's sad, but it's just part of being human.
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Joe Ruby and Ken Spears
Animation writers responsible for many Saturday morning cartoons die at 87 and 82, respectively
Ruby and Spears are inextricably linked to each other in terms of their contributions to American television. At Hanna-Barbera, they are credited with being the creative forces behind the still-running mystery cartoon Scooby-Doo in the late 1960s, which set off a wave of similar cartoons that Ruby and Spears also wrote. In the late 1970s, they briefly split off into their own venture, Ruby-Spears Productions, which most famously updated Alvin and the Chipmunks for the 1980s generation. The company eventually merged back into their former employers, Hanna-Barbera, in the 1980s; today the catalog is owned by Warner Bros.
Ruby died August 26 (his death was publicized back then but I apparently missed it). Spears died November 6 of Lewy body dementia.
Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruby-Spears
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Geoffrey Palmer
British actor dies at 93
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/29/Geoffrey_Palmer_Breath_of_Fresh_Air.JPG)
Palmer was primarily active in his native United Kingdom, but his work got occasional exposure in the United States, beginning in the 1960s when guest appearances on The Saint, The Avengers and Doctor Who were syndicated here. His longest-running role on television was that of late middle aged curmudgeon Lionel Hardcastle on the sitcom As Time Goes By, which ran 13 years and is widely seen on PBS in the USA; he co-starred alongside Dame Judi Dench in that series (a pairing they would reprise in the James Bond film Tomorrow Never Dies). He was known for his distinctive "grumpy" look.
Palmer died 5 November.
Obituary from the BBC (https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-54838209)
Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geoffrey_Palmer_(actor))
IMDB (https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0658244/)
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I'm gonna miss Lionel Hardcastle and his time in Kenya... :crying:
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Bender passed. For a Cowboys fan, he was OK.
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3907385/posts
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Bender passed. For a Cowboys fan, he was OK.
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3907385/posts
**nononono* :dammit: Aw geez, he was a good dude. Condolences and sympathies to his family, friends and loved ones. RIP Bender.
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Bender passed. For a Cowboys fan, he was OK.
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3907385/posts
Bender also posted here. I will miss him too!
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Bender also posted here. I will miss him too!
He was the resident football guy before he left and I more or less took over those responsibilities (though not nearly as thoroughly as he did). I seem to recall him having health issues for a while now. May he RIP
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I'm gonna miss Lionel Hardcastle and his time in Kenya... :crying:
Oh no! Lionel Hardcastle! How sad. That was a nice show. Dame Judy must be very sad.
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Bender passed. For a Cowboys fan, he was OK.
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3907385/posts
No. Bender was great. Benders are always great. RIP.
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Oh no! Lionel Hardcastle! How sad. That was a nice show. Dame Judy must be very sad.
I can't say I care what Dame Dench thinks. I've detested her in every part I ever saw her play. I guess she probably got along with Geoffrey Palmer, though. Maybe it was the parts she did.
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(https://images-wixmp-ed30a86b8c4ca887773594c2.wixmp.com/f/53f690ea-1d6e-4133-848b-c3e568997528/d7rznu2-649be0f5-cae0-4fbb-b3ad-aecd5cb5cb98.jpg/v1/fill/w_1024,h_720,q_75,strp/bender_2_by_kamy2425-d7rznu2.jpg?token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJpc3MiOiJ1cm46YXBwOjdlMGQxODg5ODIyNjQzNzNhNWYwZDQxNWVhMGQyNmUwIiwic3ViIjoidXJuOmFwcDo3ZTBkMTg4OTgyMjY0MzczYTVmMGQ0MTVlYTBkMjZlMCIsImF1ZCI6WyJ1cm46c2VydmljZTppbWFnZS5vcGVyYXRpb25zIl0sIm9iaiI6W1t7InBhdGgiOiIvZi81M2Y2OTBlYS0xZDZlLTQxMzMtODQ4Yi1jM2U1Njg5OTc1MjgvZDdyem51Mi02NDliZTBmNS1jYWUwLTRmYmItYjNhZC1hZWNkNWNiNWNiOTguanBnIiwid2lkdGgiOiI8PTEwMjQiLCJoZWlnaHQiOiI8PTcyMCJ9XV19.E9Nv7JZOVfWYAOvx1K9w8ixHtA9Y8An1Dv7mnYEqt6w)
http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php?action=profile;u=10260 (http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php?action=profile;u=10260)
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RIP @Bender2 Prayers up for family and friends.
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So sorry tho hear the news about Bender...RIP
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I loved *As Time Goes By*..watched it every night on PBS years ago...
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I loved *As Time Goes By*..watched it every night on PBS years ago...
Lionel Hardcastle was the only character I liked in that show...and we watched almost all the episodes.
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Bender passed. For a Cowboys fan, he was OK.
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3907385/posts
Jim Robinson's wife of 50 years, Sheila, has passed away.
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3907419/posts
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Jim Robinson's wife of 50 years, Sheila, has passed away.
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3907419/posts
Sad news indeed. I was once fairly close to the Robinson family and will be praying for God to grant them peace and confort.
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Bender passed. For a Cowboys fan, he was OK.
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3907385/posts
Oh no... Was one of my good friends at TOS. I was a regular in his weekly football sweepstakes. Great guy with a hell of a sense of humor.
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Jim Robinson's wife of 50 years, Sheila, has passed away.
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3907419/posts
I really liked Sheila a lot. In fact, more than I liked Jim. 8888crybaby
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Prayers up for the whole family.
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Jim Robinson's wife of 50 years, Sheila, has passed away.
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3907419/posts
Prayers for the family
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Jim Robinson's wife of 50 years, Sheila, has passed away.
Such a rarity these days to see couples remain married to the same person through life. Mrs. Hoodat and I hope to see our own 50th Anniversary.
JimRob is not a fan of me by any stretch of the imagination, but I hope the best for him. I pray he finds passion, purpose, and comfort through this new season of his life.
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Oh no... Was one of my good friends at TOS. I was a regular in his weekly football sweepstakes. Great guy with a hell of a sense of humor.
Sad to hear.
His football sweepstakes was a lot of fun to read.
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Lionel Hardcastle was the only character I liked in that show...and we watched almost all the episodes.
Yes. Palmer's acerbic asides basically made the show funny.
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Bobby Brown, Jr. dies at 28.
He's the third close family member of 90s R&B/hip-hop performer Bobby Brown to meet a premature demise: ex-wife Whitney Houston died in 2012 (age 48) and daughter Bobbi Kristina Brown died in 2015 (age 22). Bobby Jr. was born out of a previous relationship Bobby Sr. had with Kim Ward.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/bobby-brown-jr-son-of-singer-bobby-brown-dies-in-los-angeles/ar-BB1b9phc (https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/bobby-brown-jr-son-of-singer-bobby-brown-dies-in-los-angeles/ar-BB1b9phc)
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Bobby Brown, Jr. dies at 28.
He's the third close family member of 90s R&B/hip-hop performer Bobby Brown to meet a premature demise: ex-wife Whitney Houston died in 2012 (age 48) and daughter Bobbi Kristina Brown died in 2015 (age 22). Bobby Jr. was born out of a previous relationship Bobby Sr. had with Kim Ward.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/bobby-brown-jr-son-of-singer-bobby-brown-dies-in-los-angeles/ar-BB1b9phc (https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/bobby-brown-jr-son-of-singer-bobby-brown-dies-in-los-angeles/ar-BB1b9phc)
It doesn’t seem so long ago his daddy was singing with his pre pubescent voice in New Edition. Time flies.
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Jim Robinson's wife of 50 years, Sheila, has passed away.
No need to stop the grift, er fundraising, (https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3907984/posts) though.
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No need to stop the grift, er fundraising, (https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3907984/posts) though.
888mouth
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No need to stop the grift, er fundraising, (https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3907984/posts) though.
Same old chit, new chapter. I think this is the first pledge drive that Jim isn't an active participant in.
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No need to stop the grift, er fundraising, (https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3907984/posts) though.
Some of you people need to move on from your obsession.
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Some of you people need to move on from your obsession.
I considered Jim and Sheila friends, and I'm feeling pretty sad for him now. I used to send him a PM every year on their Anniversary, even after I left FR for good.
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I considered Jim and Sheila friends, and I'm feeling pretty sad for him now. I used to send him a PM every year on their Anniversary, even after I left FR for good.
Ditto! Except for the PM part.
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Ditto! Except for the PM part.
Even horse's asses deserve sympathy from time to time...
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Even horse's asses deserve sympathy from time to time...
:amen:
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Ahem.
Please keep the TOS-bashing off the obituary thread.
Sincerely, your friendly cat-herder.
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Some of you people need to move on from your obsession.
:silly: Not obsessed, but whatever. In deference to jmyrle, I'll say no more.
Isn't it interesting that there was a flurry of celebrity deaths, but these last few days have been relatively free of that sort of news? This guy probably warrants a mention, though:California journalist who pushed for public information dies
By JANIE HAR
November 18, 2020
SAN FRANCISCO (AP) — Tim Crews, a longtime Northern California newspaperman who relentlessly filed public records requests and even did a five-day stint in jail rather than give up anonymous sources, has died at age 77.
Crews died Nov. 12 at Shasta Regional Medical Center in Redding, after weeks in the hospital. The cause of death was sepsis, said his wife, Donna Settle.
Tributes poured in on the Facebook page of The Sacramento Valley Mirror, a twice-weekly newspaper in Glenn County that Crews founded, published and wrote for, even delivering copies. It has no online presence other than on Facebook.
Readers and friends called him a true original, an old-time community journalist who stood up for regular people and published obituaries, even long ones, for free. He dashed about the town of Willows, population 6,000, in red suspenders and with a bushy white beard, covering crime and politics but also community events. ...
He loved to write and help people and he disliked government officials who didn’t want the public to know what they were up to, said Settle, who operated the newspaper with her husband.
“He just wanted to do well for the community, and I think that’s true with a lot of people in journalism,†she said. ...
Associated Press (https://apnews.com/article/san-francisco-newspapers-obituaries-california-journalists-bba26b1a8044067783cb120f074faf38)
Journalists now want to influence the community, not exactly serve them, sad to say.
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:silly: Not obsessed, but whatever. In deference to jmyrle, I'll say no more.
Appreciated, @mountaineer —I'm not against discussing it, but this thread is not the place.
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Appreciated, @mountaineer —I'm not against discussing it, but this thread is not the place.
It should be in a sports category. Emphasis on the gory.
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Appreciated, @mountaineer —I'm not against discussing it, but this thread is not the place.
True. I went to far.
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Isn't it interesting that there was a flurry of celebrity deaths, but these last few days have been relatively free of that sort of news?
Thats cause they ain’t no more recognizable celebrities, they all passed away.
When my kids talk about this actor or that musician, I scarcely have a clue.
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Thats cause they ain’t no more recognizable celebrities, they all passed away.
When my kids talk about this actor or that musician, I scarcely have a clue.
Not death, but am I the only one who seems to notice that only republicans are getting the China Flu? And I'll barf if anyone says it is dilligence in mask wearing.
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Thats cause they ain’t no more recognizable celebrities, they all passed away.
When my kids talk about this actor or that musician, I scarcely have a clue.
Right on.
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Thats cause they ain’t no more recognizable celebrities, they all passed away.
When my kids talk about this actor or that musician, I scarcely have a clue.
I used to do fairly well on Jeopardy. Still do sometimes. But when the category is modern entertainment, I'm clueless. If it's younger than about 1990, I'm usually lost.
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Not death, but am I the only one who seems to notice that only republicans are getting the China Flu? And I'll barf if anyone says it is dilligence in mask wearing.
As a matter of fact I have noticed this as well. The closest thing to a leftist I've heard of was Tom Hanks & wife.
Its prolly because one half of the nation is busy living while the other half is curled in the fetal position. When all is said and done I know which half I'll want to have been part of.
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Not death, but am I the only one who seems to notice that only republicans are getting the China Flu? And I'll barf if anyone says it is dilligence in mask wearing.
Nope. The only folks I know personally that got it are whacko libs, masks and all...
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Nope. The only folks I know personally that got it are whacko libs, masks and all...
I don't know any wacko libs in my new town. there aren't very many, and life's too short to deal with dipshitz.
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I don't know any wacko libs in my new town. there aren't very many, and life's too short to deal with dipshitz.
Well I have to retract. My elder son now has the Woohan... along with his wife and all five kids.
But she's a nurse, and he's security at the hospital, so they were high risk for it anyway.
Anyhow, it's now close to home, and a whole house (and his in-laws house) that won't be at turkey day.
:boring:
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Nope. The only folks I know personally that got it are whacko libs, masks and all...
I know both Republicans and Democrats, both liberals and Conservatives who have gotten it. The Conservatives have done fine. One of the Liberals died.
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David Dinkins, New York City’s first Black mayor, dies at 93
David Dinkins, whose historic 1989 victory as the city’s first and only Black mayor was quickly eclipsed by rising crime and racial turmoil that doomed his re-election, died Monday at his home, police said. He was 93.
His death comes a little more than a month after his wife, Joyce, passed away on Oct. 11.
Dinkins, in his two decades after leaving City Hall, kept a busy schedule but a relatively low profile — teaching at Columbia University, doing charity work and making occasional appearances.
https://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/ny-david-dinkins-former-mayor-has-died-20201124-rshgkrczyjdt7p5fvmtijif4iy-story.html (https://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/ny-david-dinkins-former-mayor-has-died-20201124-rshgkrczyjdt7p5fvmtijif4iy-story.html)
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Hal Ketchum
1990s country singer dies at 67
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/27/Hal2008b.jpg/240px-Hal2008b.jpg)
Ketchum's time as a country music star was brief but successful, charting 11 consecutive top-30 country hits in just four years, from 1991 to 1995. He was among the wave of new country stars who were only vaguely stylistically country but dominated FM radio as it boomed in the early 1990s; unusually, despite his chart success, he never reached number-one, falling just short at number-two three times (debut hit "Small Town Saturday Night," "Past the Point of Rescue" and "Hearts are Gonna Roll").
Ketchum died November 23 from complications of Alzheimer's disease.
Obituary from heavy.com (https://heavy.com/entertainment/hal-ketchum-dead/)
Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hal_Ketchum)
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https://www.foxnews.com/sports/paul-hornung-legendary-nfl-running-back-dies (https://www.foxnews.com/sports/paul-hornung-legendary-nfl-running-back-dies)
Paul Hornung, legendary NFL running back, dead at 84
Paul Hornung, a Hall of Fame running back who played for the Green Bay Packers, has died. He was 84.
Hornung died in his hometown of Louisville, Ky., after a long battle with dementia, the Louisville Sports Commission said in a statement.
Hornung won the 1956 Heisman Trophy award with Notre Dame as a quarterback. He turned pro in 1957 and played for the Packers as a fullback and halfback after being selected No. 1 overall.
He spent nine seasons with the Packers and was suspended for the entirety of the 1963 season because of a gambling suspension.
He was a part of the 1966 Packers team that won the first-ever Super Bowl, defeating the American Football League’s Kansas City Chiefs 35-10.
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https://www.foxnews.com/sports/paul-hornung-legendary-nfl-running-back-dies (https://www.foxnews.com/sports/paul-hornung-legendary-nfl-running-back-dies)
Paul Hornung, legendary NFL running back, dead at 84
Oh yes....as a huge Packer fan those were the days.
I remember the first Packer game I saw on tv was the 1960 title game between the Packers and the Eagles. Jimmy Taylor got tackled on the Eagles six yard line by Chuck Bednarek I believe on the last play of the game. If Taylor had scored, that would have meant six titles in seven years for the Packers and Vince Lombardi who is still the most revered coach in Wisconsin sports history.
Hornung was The Golden Boy. A confirmed bachelor for most of his life, it was highly ironic that Hornung, a fun-loving bachelor who loved parties and girls not necessarily in that order, played in Green Bay the smallest city in the league and one definitely not known for exciting places for spirited athletes.
Hornung is considered one of the all-time great Packers. Unfortunately, he missed one whole season, 1963, after being suspended for gambling.
When he returned for the 1964 season Hornung, the team's fg and pat kicker, had lost his timing and had a disastrous 12-38 conversion rate on fgs. His absolutely rotten kicking cost the Packers two or three games and a shot at the title.
I remember they lost one game to the Colts by one point when Hornung missed all five fg attempts none longer than about thirty yards. The goalposts were on the goal line in those days too.
He had one great game in the playoffs against the Colts in 1965 scoring five tds, but a pinched nerve ended his career early.
Nevertheless, The Golden Boy will be dearly missed by many old Packer fans.
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Diego Maradona, one of football's greater ever players, dies aged 60
Diego Maradona dead say reports
Diego Maradona has died aged 60 after a cardiac arrest according to reports in his native Argentina.
The 1986 World Cup winner, widely considered on the greatest players in the sport's history, underwent successful brain surgery on a blood clot earlier this month.
Maradona last appeared in public on his 60th birthday last Friday before his side's league match against Patronato.
According to local media reports Maradona had been feeling poorly for some time.
https://sports.yahoo.com/diego-maradona-died-aged-60-162635998.html
@EasyAce
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https://hotair.com/archives/john-s-2/2020/11/30/david-prowse-actor-played-darth-vader-dead-85-covid-19/
David Prowse, Actor Who Played Darth Vader, Dead At 85 From COVID-19
Actor David Prowse died Saturday at age 85. His daughter said he’d contracted COVID-19 and had been in the hospital for treatment before his death.
In an interview with UK’s The Sun, Prowse daughter Rachel confirmed that her father, who suffered from Alzheimer’s, had been hospitalized for the last two weeks with Covid. Confirming the cause of death, Rachel Prowse said, “It’s horrible that Covid restrictions meant we did not get to see him and say goodbye. But when we went to collect his stuff from the hospital the nurse said what a cool guy he was. He was such a larger-than-life character. He would have loved to see himself trending on Twitter.â€
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https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2020/12/bruce-herschensohn-rip.php (https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2020/12/bruce-herschensohn-rip.php)
BRUCE HERSCHENSOHN, RIP
Sad news of the passing yesterday of Bruce Herschensohn, long time conservative activist, documentary filmmaker, and commentator in California. I got to know him a bit in the mid-1980s when he was a commentator on a local TV news program in LA (paired up for nightly debates with former Democratic Senator John Tunney—see the promotional ad below), and then when he ran for the Senate in 1992, losing narrowly to Barbara Boxer while running a million votes ahead of President George H.W. Bush. (In the TV ad below, which aired during the GOP primary that year, Bruce attacks his liberal Republican rival, Tom Campbell.)
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Legendary Science Fiction Author Ben Bova Has Passed at the Age of 88 (https://www.tor.com/2020/11/30/legendary-science-fiction-author-ben-bova-has-passed-at-the-age-of-88/)
Scientist, Hugo Award winner, and prolific science fiction author and editor Ben Bova passed away on Sunday, November 29, 2020 at the age of 88, Tor.com is able to confirm. The author of more than one hundred books, Bova also edited some of the genre’s best-known publications and served as the president of the Science Fiction and Fantasy Writers of America.
Word of Bova’s passing first came from Kathryn Brusco, who revealed that Bova had passed due to complications from COVID-19 and a stroke.
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I didn't know others up thread, but read a bunch of Ben Bova's books. RIP, sir, and thanks for the entertainment.
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I didn't know others up thread, but read a bunch of Ben Bova's books. RIP, sir, and thanks for the entertainment.
I think I read one or two of his. Liked Heinlein and asimov better, but he did a great job on his stuff.
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I think I read one or two of his. Liked Heinlein and asimov better, but he did a great job on his stuff.
Yep. I read his books too, because he was on the shelf next to Bradbury. Hate to see the old writers from the 60s and 70s that I read voraciously as a teen and in my twenties going or gone.
RIP Sir. And thanks.
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Walter Williams....
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Walter Williams....
Oh man.
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Walter Williams....
"Go to the head of the class!"
8888crybaby
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Walter Williams....
Walter Williams, R.I.P.
By Veronique de Rugy
December 2, 2020 11:01 AM
The great economist and freedom fighter Walter Williams has died. This is an incredibly sad news. Walter was a great communicator of ideas and a prolific, provocative and uncompromising writer. He was the John M. Olin distinguished professor of economics at George Mason University. His voice, his happy-warrior demeanor, his cosmopolitan views, his endless fight on behalf of those with no political voices, and his generosity to all of us at Mason will be missed. ... https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/walter-williams-r-i-p/ (https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/walter-williams-r-i-p/)
Bo Snerdley @BoSnerdley
It is true apparently. Dr Walter Williams has passed.
One of our most beloved guest hosts. Dear friend. Patriot. Teacher. Defender of Liberty.
What a loss. Heartbroken.
10:46 AM · Dec 2, 2020
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"Go to the head of the class!"
8888crybaby
2020 keeps piling on.....
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Years ago I carried on a correspondence with Dr. Williams for many months and was richly rewarded by that experience! May he rest in peace!
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I loved listening to walter Williams when he filled in for rush.
Sad news....
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https://townhall.com/columnists/thomassowell/2020/12/02/walter-e-williams-19362020-n2580965
Walter E. Williams 1936-2020
Walter Williams loved teaching. Unlike too many other teachers today, he made it a point never to impose his opinions on his students. Those who read his syndicated newspaper columns know that he expressed his opinions boldly and unequivocally there. But not in the classroom.
Walter once said he hoped that, on the day he died, he would have taught a class that day. And that is just the way it was, when he died on Wednesday, December 2, 2020.
He was my best friend for half a century. There was no one I trusted more or whose integrity I respected more. Since he was younger than me, I chose him to be my literary executor, to take control of my books after I was gone.
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As an economist, Walter Williams never got the credit he deserved. His book "Race and Economics" is a must-read introduction to the subject. Amazon has it ranked 5th in sales among civil rights books, 9 years after it was published.
Another book of his, on the effects of economics under the white supremacist apartheid regime in South Africa, was titled "South Africa's War Against Capitalism." He went to South Africa to study the situation directly. Many of the things he brought out have implications for racial discrimination in other places around the world.
I have had many occasions to cite Walter Williams' research in my own books. Most of what others say about higher prices in low income neighborhoods today has not yet caught up to what Walter said in his doctoral dissertation decades ago.
A Great eulogizing another Great.
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Holding a black belt in karate, Walter was a tough customer. One night three men jumped him -- and two of those men ended up in a hospital.
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You didn't have to be in his classroom for Walter Williams to teach you economics or remind you why fearing freedom is the choice of a fool. You had only to read his columns and his books to be instructed, reminded, and delighted all at once.
RIP Dr. Williams. To the Elysian Fields you go to reunite happily with your Connie, but here on earth your work endures.
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Dr. Walter Williams, R.I.P.
By Craig Rucker |December 3rd, 2020|Civil Rights|1 Comment
CFACT mourns the loss of economist Dr. Walter Williams who passed away this week. Dr. Williams was a wise and tireless advocate for freedom.
I had the pleasure of meeting Dr. Williams once after I gave a presentation in Washington. He was a delightful man. He has on a number of occasions mentioned CFACT’s work in his nationally-syndicated columns, most recently citing the work of Paul Driessen in a column this past March.
CFACT’s Marc Morano was a former student of Dr. Williams at George Mason University (he got a C). Marc posted detailed thoughts at Climate Depot and CFACT.org.
https://www.cfact.org/2020/12/03/dr-walter-williams-r-i-p/ (https://www.cfact.org/2020/12/03/dr-walter-williams-r-i-p/)
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A great advocate of rights for ALL people, he will be badly missed. :patriot:
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A great advocate of rights for ALL people, he will be badly missed. :patriot:
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David Lander
TV's "Squiggy" dies at 73
Lander (né Landau), a native Brooklynite, met his comic partner Michael McKean while attending college in Pittsburgh. Together, they created the comic greaser duo Lenny and Squiggy, among other roles. They traveled to the West Coast and joined the seminal comedy troupe The Credibility Gap before bringing their Lenny and Squiggy act, virtually intact, to television on the hit television series Laverne & Shirley. The duo split when McKean left the series in 1982.
Lander continued his career for the next two decades, becoming a fixture in bit parts and voice-acting roles, using his natural Brooklyn greaser accent to full effect as a character actor. One notable example of a non-Brooklynite role he voiced was one of his longest-running, the recurring role of farm-boy "Doc Boy" Arbuckle in the Garfield cartoons.
Lander, who had suffered from multiple sclerosis since the mid-1980s but only went public with the diagnosis in 1999, died from complications of the disease December 4.
Obituary from TMZ (https://www.tmz.com/2020/12/05/laverne-and-shirley-squiggy-david-lander-dead-dies-ms-multiple-sclerosis/)
Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Lander)
IMDB (https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0005581/)
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RIP Squiggy.
I didn’t know he was Jon on “Garfieldâ€
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RIP Squiggy.
I didn’t know he was Jon on “Garfieldâ€
Jon was actually little-known Thom Huge. But David played the bald brother Doc Boy, a recurring character.
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Lander was also the ballpark announcer for the climactic championship game in A League of Their Own.
Hinson dropped the ball! Hinson dropped the ball! . . . I have seen enough to know I have seen too much!
RIP
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General Chuck Yeager passed just before 9pm ET.
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Aviation legend Chuck Yeager dies age 97
by Agence France-Presse
December 8, 2020
Aviation legend Chuck Yeager dies age 97
US aviation legend Chuck Yeager, the first pilot to break the sound barrier, has died, his wife announced Monday.
“It is w/ profound sorrow, I must tell you that my life love General Chuck Yeager passed just before 9pm ET,†Victoria Yeager tweeted on her husband’s account.
“An incredible life well lived, America’s greatest Pilot, & a legacy of strength, adventure, & patriotism will be remembered forever.â€
She did not specify the cause of her husband’s death.
https://www.defencetalk.com/aviation-legend-chuck-yeager-dies-age-97-76590/ (https://www.defencetalk.com/aviation-legend-chuck-yeager-dies-age-97-76590/)
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General Chuck Yeager passed just before 9pm ET.
RIP to an American Hero and Legend.
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RIP to a true hero. 97 was a great run.
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Chuck Yeager: First pilot to fly supersonic dies aged 97
US test pilot Chuck Yeager, the first person to break the sound barrier, has died aged 97, his wife says.
In a tweet, Victoria Yeager wrote: "It is w/ profound sorrow, I must tell you that my life love General Chuck Yeager passed just before 9pm ET."
Yeager went into the history books after his flight in the Bell X-1 experimental rocket plane in 1947.
He later broke several other speed and altitude records, helping to pave the way for the US space programme.
"An incredible life well lived, America's greatest Pilot, & a legacy of strength, adventure, & patriotism will be remembered forever," his wife wrote on Monday.
She provided no further details.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-55225903 (https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-55225903)
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He was “the most righteous of all those with the right stuff,†said Maj. Gen. Curtis Bedke, commander of the Air Force Flight Test Center at Edwards.
Yeager, from a small town in the hills of West Virginia, flew for more than 60 years, including piloting an X-15 to near 1,000 mph (1,609 kph) at Edwards in October 2002 at age 79.
“Living to a ripe old age is not an end in itself. The trick is to enjoy the years remaining,†he said in “Yeager: An Autobiography.â€
“I haven’t yet done everything, but by the time I’m finished, I won’t have missed much,†he wrote. “If I auger in (crash) tomorrow, it won’t be with a frown on my face. I’ve had a ball.â€
On Oct. 14, 1947, Yeager, then a 24-year-old captain, pushed an orange, bullet-shaped Bell X-1 rocket plane past 660 mph at 40,000 feet to break the sound barrier, at the time a daunting aviation milestone.
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Full story (https://www.firstcoastnews.com/article/news/nation-world/chuck-yeager-obit/507-3ea329c3-68b8-481b-9017-41f9db373e56?fbclid=IwAR1Qp_LPzwyYFi-phuQ4QhX8pyrVvkyXUOYf0SIlv5cKR610zXBoPQsxX5k)
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If you've never watched "The Right Stuff", now might be a good time to do so.
You can "find it on the net" in 1080p if you know where to look.
Mr. Yeager has a cameo role as the bartender at the test flight base "cafe".
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Farewell to one of aviation's greats. RIP General Yeager. :patriot:
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The Right Stuff
By Hoppy Kercheval
December 9, 2020 - 12:08 am
The story goes that Chuck Yeager was not impressed with the term “the right stuff.â€
Author Tom Wolfe, in his book The Right Stuff, used the phrase to describe the qualities of Yeager and other pilots whose skill and bravery opened the avenue of supersonic flight and space exploration.
Wolfe singled out Yeager in his book, describing him as “the most righteous of all possessors of the right stuff.â€
Asked about it by Newsweek in 1985, Yeager said the designation “jes’ don’t mean a rat’s fanny.â€
The Lincoln County, West Virginia native spent a lifetime downplaying his long list of achievements.
As a WWII flying ace he shot down five German planes in one day. After he was shot down over France, he escaped by climbing over the snow-covered Pyrenees Mountains into Spain, carrying a wounded fellow soldier with him. ...
WV Metro News (https://wvmetronews.com/2020/12/09/the-right-stuff/?fbclid=IwAR3MHIP_rslzxRx3ybIZyl-DLd3NnSY0qjyf6fb4tj5LEma2WXOZXJ1NULk)
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WV Metro News (https://wvmetronews.com/2020/12/09/the-right-stuff/?fbclid=IwAR3MHIP_rslzxRx3ybIZyl-DLd3NnSY0qjyf6fb4tj5LEma2WXOZXJ1NULk)
"The Right Stuff" was, IMO, more about Yeager than any of the Mercury Seven.
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Tommy ‘Tiny’ Lister, ‘Friday’ Actor and Wrestler, Dies at 62
Tommy “Tiny†Lister, who appeared in “Friday†and “The Fifth Element†and was also a professional wrestler, died Thursday, his manager Cindy Cowan confirmed.
Cowan said he was found unresponsive in his apartment in Marina del Rey, Calif. after displaying symptoms of COVID-19 in recent days. He had been working on a film and had to cancel shooting after falling ill, Cowan said.
“He was a wonderful guy with a heart of gold. Everyone loved him. A real gentle giant,†she said, “We’re all devastated.â€
Lister wrestled Hulk Hogan in the World Wrestling Federation after appearing as Zeus in 1989’s “No Holds Barred.†He later spent time in World Championship Wrestling, where he was billed as Z-Gangsta.
https://variety.com/2020/film/news/tommy-tiny-lister-dies-friday-actor-wrestler-1234851392/
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Tommy ‘Tiny’ Lister, ‘Friday’ Actor and Wrestler, Dies at 62
https://variety.com/2020/film/news/tommy-tiny-lister-dies-friday-actor-wrestler-1234851392/
I had only seen him in one movie- an Adam Sandler one. He played a big, scary demon/devil and he was good in that role.
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I had only seen him in one movie- an Adam Sandler one. He played a big, scary demon/devil and he was good in that role.
Little Nicky, it was. Weird and lowbrow, but definitely funny.
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Charley Pride
Country singer dies at 86
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Pride began his career in Negro league baseball, and though injuries kept him from making the major leagues, he spent several years in the minors. He drew the attention of some of the biggest country musicians of the era during his baseball career, and after a stint in the military, he caught on in Nashville after Chet Atkins had heard one of his demo tapes and signed him to RCA Victor.
In a time when the South was heavily scrutinized for its anti-black reputation, Pride became one of Nashville's major superstars. He became the first black member of the Grand Ole Opry since founding member DeFord Bailey. Between 1967 and 1983, Pride's singles dominated the country charts, including a string of over 40 consecutive singles reaching the top 10 (many of them reaching number-1) between 1971 and 1983. He had one major pop crossover hit, "Kiss an Angel Good Mornin'." His career tailed off somewhat in the late 1980s but he remained an active performer until his death.
Pride died December 12 from coronavirus complications.
Obituary from Variety (https://variety.com/2020/music/news/charley-pride-dead-dies-country-music-legend-1234852402/)
Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charley_Pride)
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Charley Pride
Country singer dies at 86
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/14/Charley-Pride_1981.JPEG/410px-Charley-Pride_1981.JPEG)
Pride began his career in Negro league baseball, and though injuries kept him from making the major leagues, he spent several years in the minors. He drew the attention of some of the biggest country musicians of the era during his baseball career, and after a stint in the military, he caught on in Nashville after Chet Atkins had heard one of his demo tapes and signed him to RCA Victor.
In a time when the South was heavily scrutinized for its anti-black reputation, Pride became one of Nashville's major superstars. He became the first black member of the Grand Ole Opry since founding member DeFord Bailey. Between 1967 and 1983, Pride's singles dominated the country charts, including a string of over 40 consecutive singles reaching the top 10 (many of them reaching number-1) between 1971 and 1983. He had one major pop crossover hit, "Kiss an Angel Good Mornin'." His career tailed off somewhat in the late 1980s but he remained an active performer until his death.
Pride died December 12 from coronavirus complications.
Obituary from Variety (https://variety.com/2020/music/news/charley-pride-dead-dies-country-music-legend-1234852402/)
Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charley_Pride)
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Loved his music. RIP sir.
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Loved his music. RIP sir.
Ditto! Farewell, Mr. Pride, and thanks.
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Ditto! Farewell, Mr. Pride, and thanks.
And just in case anyone here doesn't know this, Charlie Pride was a damn good baseball player in his younger days as well!
May he rest in peace!
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John le Carré: British author of Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy author dies
British author John le Carré, writer of Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy and The Night Manager, has died aged 89, his literary agent has said.
Jonny Gellar shared the news in a tweet on Sunday night, which read: "With much sadness, I must announce the passing of one the world's great writers - John le Carré."
https://news.sky.com/story/john-le-carre-british-author-of-tinker-tailor-soldier-spy-author-dies-12160814
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John le Carré: British author of Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy author dies
I'm in the middle of reading one of his books - just checked it out of the library yesterday.
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I'm in the middle of reading one of his books - just checked it out of the library yesterday.
I do like how synchronicity works sometimes. He’s an author I never read but I know he was prolific.
I added him to authors I should read list, though I like things more by Walter Mosley or Ed McBain.
@mountaineer
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I do like how synchronicity works sometimes. He’s an author I never read but I know he was prolific.
We were watching an old episode of "Law and Order" the other night, and Steven Hill said something about someone being like a character in a John LeCarre novel. That got me thinking. Pretty sure I'd read something by him many years ago, but why not see what the library had to offer? So on Friday, I did. Finished the book Sunday.
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John le Carré, legendary author of spy novels including 'Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy,' dies
Dec. 13, 2020
Tim Stelloh
John le Carré, the former spy and British espionage novelist who wrote "Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy," died over the weekend, a representative said Sunday. He was 89.
In a statement, Jonny Geller, the CEO of le Carré's literary agency, said le Carré died Saturday night after a short battle with pneumonia in Cornwall, in the southwest of England.
His death was not Covid-19-related, Geller said.
"Our hearts go out to his four sons, their families and to his dear wife, Jane," Geller said, adding: "His like will never be seen again, and his loss will be felt by every book lover, everyone interested in the human condition."
Le Carré, whose real name was David Cornwell, wrote 25 novels and a memoir after having worked for British intelligence beginning in 1949. Through complex plots and "beautiful prose," Geller said, le Carré "beamed a harsh light at the injustices of the world" and dominated bestseller lists.
In a 2008 interview with The Associated Press, he described himself as someone outside "the literary bureaucracy" who was far from optimistic.
"Humanity — that's what we rely on. If only we could see it expressed in our institutional forms, we would have hope then," he told the AP. "I think the humanity will always be there. I think it will always be defeated."
Among his best-known novels was the 1963 book "The Spy Who Came in From the Cold," about a spy carrying out a risky operation in Germany, where he had been based for MI6.
Others included "A Perfect Spy," "The Constant Gardener," "A Legacy of Spies" and "Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy," which was adapted into an Academy Award-winning film in 2011.
His latest novel, "Agent Running in the Field," was published in October 2019.
"We have lost a great figure of English literature, a man of great wit, kindness, humor and intelligence. I have lost a friend, a mentor and an inspiration," Geller said.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/john-le-carr-legendary-author-spy-novels-including-tinker-tailor-n1251055 (https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/john-le-carr-legendary-author-spy-novels-including-tinker-tailor-n1251055)
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Ann Reinking
Broadway performer, known for her close relationship with Bob Fosse, dies at 71
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In 1972, Reinking, who began her career as a chorus girl, caught the attention of legendary Broadway choreographer Bob Fosse. Fosse gave Reinking her big break, casting her as leads in several of his shows, most famously as Roxie Hart in Chicago. Though both were married at the time (Fosse to Gwen Verdon and Reinking to Larry Small), the two carried on an affair that lasted through much of that time. She broke off the affair in the late 1970s but, like Verdon, continued to work professionally with him, including appearing more or less as herself in Fosse's movie All That Jazz.
After Fosse's death, Reinking retired from performing but eventually earned a reputation as his creative heir apparent. She became close friends and collaborators with Verdon until Verdon's death in 2000. Reinking also choreographed the 1990s revival of Chicago and, in 1999, co-created a revue based on Fosse's work.
Reinking died unexpectedly in her sleep December 12.
Obituary from Variety (https://variety.com/2020/legit/news/ann-reinking-dead-chicago-1234853416/)
Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ann_Reinking)
IMDB (https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0718237/)
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I didn’t know she was his mistress, but she was a heck of a dancer. I really hate this headline because she was so much more than who she took to her bed.
RIP.
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I didn’t know she was his mistress, but she was a heck of a dancer. I really hate this headline because she was so much more than who she took to her bed.
RIP.
I struggled writing that headline because of the implications of it (though it is Broadway and hedonism runs rampant there), but so much of Reinking's most prominent work was tied so closely to Fosse that I would've been remiss to say otherwise.
I have modified the headline to make it less derogatory.
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I struggled writing that headline because of the implications of it (though it is Broadway and hedonism runs rampant there), but so much of Reinking's most prominent work was tied so closely to Fosse that I would've been remiss to say otherwise.
I have modified the headline to make it less derogatory.
Thank you. :da man:
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Gefn,
Which writer do you like more, Mosley or McBain? I haven't read anything by either, and I am always looking for new authors to read. I usually try to read chronologically, first book to last.
For those that run GBR, I think it would be a great section, BOOKS and WRITERS one must read. I think it would be great as books are read if we had members give reviews to books they really enjoyed, say a 500 word review for all of us to review.
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Gefn,
Which writer do you like more, Mosley or McBain? I haven't read anything by either, and I am always looking for new authors to read. I usually try to read chronologically, first book to last.
For those that run GBR, I think it would be a great section, BOOKS and WRITERS one must read. I think it would be great as books are read if we had members give reviews to books they really enjoyed, say a 500 word review for all of us to review.
@jafo2010 @mystery-ak
I will not only give that one a STRONG "AMEN!", I will say that Louis L'amour would be an excellent author to start out with.
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@jafo2010 @mystery-ak
I will not only give that one a STRONG "AMEN!", I will say that Louis L'amour would be an excellent author to start out with.
We have a "What are you watching thread?", how about a "What are you reading thread?"
Right now I am going back and reading/ rereading some of the classics. JUst finished "Around the World in Eighty days" and started "20,000 leagues under the sea" Next it is going to be a toss up between Mark Twain or Jack London, (Reread "Call of the Wild" about a month ago.
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Hey, all y'all! I started a poll in "Briefing Room Polls," about creating a new thread or Category for Books and Authors. Please stop by and vote on it (No Dominion machines!), and comment nominating a Moderator for the group! Here's the link to the poll:
http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,422913.0.html (http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,422913.0.html)
:hattip: @jafo2010
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Gefn,
Which writer do you like more, Mosley or McBain? I haven't read anything by either, and I am always looking for new authors to read. I usually try to read chronologically, first book to last.
For those that run GBR, I think it would be a great section, BOOKS and WRITERS one must read. I think it would be great as books are read if we had members give reviews to books they really enjoyed, say a 500 word review for all of us to review.
@jafo2010
McBain wrote a huge amount a novels about a fictional police district in NYC. All good, a little formulaic but good. I know one f them was turned into a Columbo episode. I pretty much could read them in an afternoon. Really good, but more like beach read detective novels. He’d put out two or three a year. Guy was really prolific.
Walter Mosley is still alive. Writes like a dream. Writes a book every few years. In 2020, Mosley received the National Book Foundation Medal for Distinguished Contribution to American Letters, making him the first black , and Jewish male to receive the honor. His detective lives in LA.
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We have a "What are you watching thread?", how about a "What are you reading thread?"
Right now I am going back and reading/ rereading some of the classics. JUst finished "Around the World in Eighty days" and started "20,000 leagues under the sea" Next it is going to be a toss up between Mark Twain or Jack London, (Reread "Call of the Wild" about a month ago.
@verga
So.....,what's keeping you from starting one?
P.S.Ping me to it when you do.
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@verga
So.....,what's keeping you from starting one?
P.S.Ping me to it when you do.
@sneakypete
I'm creating a whole new Category tonight. I'll post a link to it here.
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@verga
So.....,what's keeping you from starting one?
P.S.Ping me to it when you do.
@sneakypete I am not that bright.
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All y'all have spoken! We have the new sub-Category, under "Entertainment & Sports!"
It's pretty empty right now, but the two new Moderators, @Gefn and @jafo2010 will be filling it shortly. I expect we'll have "Genre" threads pinned to the top, and regular topics about specific authors, and a "What are you reading now?" thread too!
Books and Authors (http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/board,179.0.html)
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K.T. Oslin, Country Singer-Songwriter of ’80’s Ladies,’ Dead at 78
Oslin was the first female songwriter in CMA Awards history to win Song of the Year
Joseph Hudak
Rolling Stone
K.T. Oslin, the first female songwriter to win the CMA Award for Song of the Year, for her 1987 hit “80’s Ladies,†died Monday at 78. Oslin had been battling Parkinson’s disease and was diagnosed with Covid-19 last week, according to her friend, the journalist Robert K. Oermann, who confirmed her death.
Oslin, born Kay Toinette Oslin in Arkansas, was 45 when she released her chart-topping debut country album, 1987’s 80’s Ladies — a remarkable feat then for a woman in country music and a near impossibility today. Along with the Top 10 title track, the LP included a pair of country Number Ones in “Do Ya†and “I’ll Always Come Back.†But it was the nostalgic ballad “80’s Ladies†— about a trio of girls who “burned our bras…dinners…and our candles at both ends†— that became her signature. “There ain’t been much these ladies ain’t tried,†Oslin sang. ... More (https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-country/kt-oslin-80s-ladies-dead-obituary-1106516/)
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RIP K.T.! I may be the only one, but I loved your music and still listen to it from time to time.
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RIP K.T.! I may be the only one, but I loved your music and still listen to it from time to time.
Agreed, Loved her stuff. My wife turned me on to it.
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Leslie West, Mountain Co-Founder, Dies at 75
By Erica Banas, WMGK
Leslie West, the co-founder and co-vocalist/guitarist of Mountain, has died. He was 75.
West’s death was confirmed by Dean Guitars who wrote, “With a heavy heart, we are saddened to hear about the passing of #Dean Artist and part of the Dean family, Leslie West. Legendary and one of a kind. Rest In Peace.†Dean Guitars CEO Evan Rubinson shared his personal condolences via Twitter writing, “To a man that I truly loved more than most — the funniest, most honest guy I’ve met.†An exact cause of death has not yet been confirmed.
West's brother posted on Facebook that his heart stopped on Monday and he'd been on a ventilator since.
He did a good job for himself for a corpulent Jewish kid from Queens (born Leslie Weinstein) who got to play his second gig with the freshly-formed Mountain at . . . Woodstock, in 1969.
RIP Mr. West . . . .
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One more from and for Leslie West---part of his performance with Mountain the night the legendary Fillmore East closed in June 1971 . . .
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https://bluegrasstoday.com/tony-rice-passes/
Tony Rice passes
Posted on December 26, 2020 By John Lawless
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Tony Rice, surely the most influential guitarist and vocalist in the history of bluegrass music, died on Christmas morning. He was 69 years of age, and died swiftly without pain.
Tony changed forever the way bluegrass guitar is played, both as a lead and an accompaniment instrument. Audiences saw hints of his genius during his stint with Bluegrass Alliance in the early 1970s, but it appeared fully formed with J.D. Crowe & The New South in 1975 on their classic recording for Rounder Records, known colloquially by its catalog number, 0044.
Those of us fortunate to be alive at that time will clearly remember the first time we heard it. By the end of the banjo intro to Old Home Place, it was obvious that something new and different was going on. Rice’s guitar filled the track from top to bottom and side to side with an aggressive rhythm style that brought together the power of Jimmy Martin and Del McCoury, with the dexterity and grace of Clarence White. It propelled the band forward like nothing we had heard before.
More at URL above...
Tony "changed the music" as much as did Earl Scruggs.
One of the greatest acoustic guitar players of all time.
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Hall of Fame pitcher Phil Niekro, famous for signature knuckleball, dies at 81
ESPN
Phil Niekro, a pitcher who used his signature knuckleball to fool generations of hitters and craft a Hall of Fame career, died Saturday night in his sleep after a long battle with cancer, the Atlanta Braves announced Sunday. He was 81.
Niekro, inducted into the Hall of Fame in 1997, was one of baseball's most prolific and durable pitchers, using his "butterfly" pitch to win 318 games in a career that spanned 24 seasons, including 21 with the Milwaukee/Atlanta Braves.
"We are heartbroken on the passing of our treasured friend, Phil Niekro," the Braves said in a statement. "Knucksie was woven into the Braves fabric, first in Milwaukee and then in Atlanta. Phil baffled batters on the field and later was always the first to join in our community activities. It was during those community and fan activities where he would communicate with fans as if they were long lost friends.
"He was a constant presence over the years, in our clubhouse, our alumni activities and throughout Braves Country and we will forever be grateful for having him be such an important part of our organization.
"Our thoughts and prayers are with his wife Nancy, sons Philip, John and Michael and his two grandchildren Chase and Emma."
Niekro's sweet Hall of Fame induction speech in 1997:
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A story: When Niekro was a Yankee, his manager for a time was Lou Piniella. One night on the road, Piniella and some friends were having late drinks in the hotel bar when the party saw Niekro returning to the hotel. When asked whether Niekro was past the team's road curfew, Piniella chuckled. "Aw, hell, I can't tell Knucksie to go to bed," he said. "He's older than I am!"
RIP to a great pitcher and a good man.
Unfortunately, that makes seven Hall of Famers who've gone to the Elysian Fields this year. (Including four pitchers: Niekro, Whitey Ford, Bob Gibson, and Tom Seaver. Bet you could win a pennant with a rotation like that!) If the Modern Era Committee elects Dick Allen to the Hall of Fame next year, it'll make eight. (Allen died on 8 December.)
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Phil Niekro was my childhood hero. It was tough being a Braves fan back then. But you could pay $3 and sit anywhere you like. I'm still pissed off at Joe Torre for chasing him off.
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He gave up the only homerun Joe niekro ever hit.
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The Niekro brothers were from my area. The Ohio Valley is mourning (https://wtov9.com/high-school-super-site/bridgeport-high-school-alum-baseball-hall-of-famer-phil-niekro-passes-away-at-age-81?fbclid=IwAR0dNambWm2HX1tmErRhMXu6lRdAg60Q-KBbEq7ktvzx5O9nuW2u9PkddIk). Phil really was one of "our own," who never forgot his roots.
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His last game in Atlanta. The story I heard was, The mouth of the south signed him to a 1 day contract for $1 to end his career in Atlanta @EasyAce would know the real story!
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Hall of Fame pitcher Phil Niekro, famous for signature knuckleball, dies at 81
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His last game in Atlanta. The story I heard was, The mouth of the south signed him to a 1 day contract for $1 to end his career in Atlanta @EasyAce would know the real story!
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@Wingnut
EasyAce does know the real story---it's true. Ted Turner was more than willing to let Niekro suit up once more to pitch a game and retire as a Brave. Knucksie himself told it in his Hall of Fame induction speech---one day contract, one dollar, one more game.
Bookends: As a rookie in 1964, Niekro's teammates included Hall of Famer Warren Spahn. When he suited up that last time for the Braves, his teammates included another lefthander bound for Cooperstown---Tom Glavine.
Glavine likes to kid that when he saw Niekro the first time in camp, he thought he'd gotten his plans crossed up and landed at a Braves fantasy camp instead of spring training.
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Phil Niekro was my childhood hero. It was tough being a Braves fan back then. But you could pay $3 and sit anywhere you like. I'm still pissed off at Joe Torre for chasing him off.
@Hoodat
I've always felt apologetic that my 1969 Mets slapped Knucksie silly in Game One of the 1969 National League Championship Series. (The Mets won, 9-5; five of the runs they pried out of Niekro were unearned.) There was probably no nicer guy ever to wear a Braves uniform than Niekro, unless it was Dale Murphy.
And there's a tale: When Murphy was a rookie in 1976, he came up as a catcher. He caught Niekro against the Big Red Machine and they took a no-hitter into the ninth, until Cesar Geronimo hit a shuttlecock over third base into short left. To this day, Murphy will tell you he was petrified of trying to catch the Niekro knuckleball. He'll also tell you Niekro helped put him at ease by saying, "Just give me the knuckleball sign. If I don't want to throw it, I'll shake you off." But you might understand if Murphy thought being moved to the outfield was like liberation day.
There were times I needed a tennis racquet to hit him.---Bob Boone.
Trying to hit Phil Niekro is like trying to eat Jell-O with chopsticks.---Bobby Murcer.
Catching Niekro’s knuckleball was great. I got to meet a lot of important people. They all sat behind home plate.---Bob Uecker.
Uecker was also behind the plate for Niekro the day he pitched against his knuckleballing brother Joe for the first time. "Their parents were at the game sitting behind home plate," Uecker said. "I saw more of their parents than they did all weekend."
It giggled at you when it went by.---Rick Monday, on the Niekro knuckler. Appropriate remark, too, considering when Niekro was born: April Fool's Day, 1939.
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Catching Niekro’s knuckleball was great. I got to meet a lot of important people. They all sat behind home plate.---Bob Uecker.
Uecker was also behind the plate for Niekro the day he pitched against his knuckleballing brother Joe for the first time. "Their parents were at the game sitting behind home plate," Uecker said. "I saw more of their parents than they did all weekend."
Uecker also once said that the easiest way to handle the knuckleball was to wait for it to stop rolling.
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https://bluegrasstoday.com/tony-rice-passes/
Tony Rice passes
Posted on December 26, 2020 By John Lawless
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Tony Rice, surely the most influential guitarist and vocalist in the history of bluegrass music, died on Christmas morning. He was 69 years of age, and died swiftly without pain.
Tony changed forever the way bluegrass guitar is played, both as a lead and an accompaniment instrument. Audiences saw hints of his genius during his stint with Bluegrass Alliance in the early 1970s, but it appeared fully formed with J.D. Crowe & The New South in 1975 on their classic recording for Rounder Records, known colloquially by its catalog number, 0044.
Those of us fortunate to be alive at that time will clearly remember the first time we heard it. By the end of the banjo intro to Old Home Place, it was obvious that something new and different was going on. Rice’s guitar filled the track from top to bottom and side to side with an aggressive rhythm style that brought together the power of Jimmy Martin and Del McCoury, with the dexterity and grace of Clarence White. It propelled the band forward like nothing we had heard before.
More at URL above...
Tony "changed the music" as much as did Earl Scruggs.
One of the greatest acoustic guitar players of all time.
During the seventies and eighties there were five flatpickers who were regarded by many as at the top of the pile.
Rice was one of them. Then there was Doc Watson, Norman Blake, Dan Crary, and Clarence White who was killed in an auto accident in the early seventies. White actually went rock and roll for a while as a member of The Byrds. Watson, Blake, and Crary could more accurately described as old timey/folk rather than Bluegrass musicians.
Rice's music from that time was more in the Bluegrass vein. I believe sometime in eighties or nineties he started experimenting with jazz. That's basically when I stopped buying his records. I bought his first jazzier lp "Mar West", but just couldn't grok it.
Combination great flatpicker and excellent singer.
I have several Rice albums which I haven't played for a while. I regard his "Manzanita" album as one of the best bluegrass/old timey records of that era.
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Pierre Cardin: French fashion giant dies aged 98
Legendary designer Pierre Cardin, whose futuristic and stylish designs helped revolutionise fashion in the 1950s and 60s, has died at the age of 98.
The French fashion giant's career spanned more than 70 years, and his modern style helped usher in the post-war "golden age" of couture.
He also broke ground by bringing designer styles to the masses with some of the first ready-to-wear collections.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-55476062 (https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-55476062)
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Pierre Cardin: French fashion giant dies aged 98
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-55476062 (https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-55476062)
I remember back in college in the 80s, his cologne was a big deal. Lot of people wore it. RIP.
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Dawn Wells, ‘Gilligan’s Island’s’ Mary Ann, Dies of COVID at 82 (https://variety.com/2020/tv/news/dawn-wells-dead-gilligans-island-mary-ann-1234876755/)
Dawn Wells, who starred as the demure Mary Ann in popular 1960s sitcom “Gilligan’s Island,†died Wednesday of causes related to COVID-19 in Los Angeles. She was 82.
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I just saw a headline Dawn Wells passed. Rest In Peace Mary Ann.
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I think all the castaways are now gone.
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I just saw a headline Dawn Wells passed. Rest In Peace Mary Ann.
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I think all the castaways are now gone.
@Gefn
Tina Louise is still alive.
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Dawn Wells, ‘Gilligan’s Island’s’ Mary Ann, Dies of COVID at 82 (https://variety.com/2020/tv/news/dawn-wells-dead-gilligans-island-mary-ann-1234876755/)
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I always liked her better than Ginger. RIP
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I always liked her better than Ginger. RIP
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@Gefn
Tina Louise is still alive.
Yeah, Tina—ironically the only one who wanted nothing to do with the show afterward—is, at 86, the last living cast member.
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Shabba-Doo
Dancer who brought street dancing into the mainstream dies at 65
Shabba-Doo, real name Adolfo G. Quiñones, broke through to fame in the 1980s with a style of street dance known as "locking—" essentially the practice involved fast and exaggerated arm movements interrupted by brief freezes. He appeared in several movies as a dancer, including Xanadu and Breakin' (as well as the notorious sequel Electric Boogaloo), and worked as a choreographer later in life.
Obituary from Variety (https://variety.com/2020/music/news/adolfo-shabba-doo-quinones-dead-breakin-dancer-actor-1234876798/)
Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shabba_Doo)
IMDB (https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0704044/)
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I always liked her better than Ginger. RIP
Me, too. RIP Dawn, and thanks!
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Shabba-Doo
Dancer who brought street dancing into the mainstream dies at 65
Shabba-Doo, real name Adolfo G. Quiñones, broke through to fame in the 1980s with a style of street dance known as "locking—" essentially the practice involved fast and exaggerated arm movements interrupted by brief freezes. He appeared in several movies as a dancer, including Xanadu and Breakin' (as well as the notorious sequel Electric Boogaloo), and worked as a choreographer later in life.
So he won't live to see Break Dancing actually be an official Olympic Sport.
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Dawn Wells, the real-life Mary Ann Summers of “Gilligan’s Island,†was just as sunny and down-to-earth off-screen as she was on-screen, her co-star Tina Louise, the show’s only surviving cast member, told The Post Wednesday. ...
“Dawn was a very wonderful person. I want people to remember her as someone who always had a smile on her face,†said Louise, who lives on Manhattan’s East Side. “Nothing is more important than family and she was family. She will always be remembered.†...
NY Post (https://nypost.com/2020/12/30/tina-louise-last-gilligans-island-star-on-dawn-wells-death/)
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Sadly, pictures fro MeWe don't hot link. I just see an empty box.... :shrug:
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(...)
Not the place. Keep the thread to once-living organisms, please. (Notable animals are OK.)
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Former Gov. and AG Dick Thornburgh (R-PA) dies at 88
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Thornburgh served two terms as Governor of Pennsylvania from 1979-87 and was appointed in the waning months of Ronald Reagan's Presidency to serve as Attorney General of the United States, a position he held through the first half of George H. W. Bush's presidency. He was generally well-regarded for his work as governor and attorney general, aggressively prosecuting corrupt corporations in the latter role (to an extent, his work in that field would continue in his private sector work in the next two decades) and establishing calm during the Three Mile Island meltdown in the former.
Thornburgh had only retired a year prior to his death December 31, 2020.
Obituary from the Associated Press (https://apnews.com/article/pennsylvania-pittsburgh-dick-thornburgh-746fe9abb81012e54d20ee94da078fe3)
Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dick_Thornburgh)
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Former Gov. and AG Dick Thornburgh (R-PA) dies at 88
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Thornburgh served two terms as Governor of Pennsylvania from 1979-87 and was appointed in the waning months of Ronald Reagan's Presidency to serve as Attorney General of the United States, a position he held through the first half of George H. W. Bush's presidency. He was generally well-regarded for his work as governor and attorney general, aggressively prosecuting corrupt corporations in the latter role (to an extent, his work in that field would continue in his private sector work in the next two decades) and establishing calm during the Three Mile Island meltdown in the former.
Thornburgh had only retired a year prior to his death December 31, 2020.
Obituary from the Associated Press (https://apnews.com/article/pennsylvania-pittsburgh-dick-thornburgh-746fe9abb81012e54d20ee94da078fe3)
Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dick_Thornburgh)
RIP Mr. Thornburgh, looking forward to a Biden residency I can't blame you for taking the exit.
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Phyllis McGuire, last remaining member of the McGuire Sisters singing trio, dies at 89
Phyllis McGuire, who with her sisters Dorothy and Christine formed the 1950s singing trio the McGuire Sisters has died. She was 89.
According to reports, McGuire died in her Las Vegas home Tuesday. The cause of death has not been released.
https://chicago.suntimes.com/entertainment-and-culture/2020/12/31/22208284/phyllis-mcguire-dead-mcguire-sisterse-last-remaining-member-of-was-89-music
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My parents were fans. Played a lot of McGuire Sisters records on our old stereo when my brother and i were kids.
Rest in peace.
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Nope. We're going to exhume it, dust it off, and bring it back.
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Phyllis McGuire, last remaining member of the McGuire Sisters singing trio, dies at 89
https://chicago.suntimes.com/entertainment-and-culture/2020/12/31/22208284/phyllis-mcguire-dead-mcguire-sisterse-last-remaining-member-of-was-89-music
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My parents were fans. Played a lot of McGuire Sisters records on our old stereo when my brother and i were kids.
Rest in peace.
I remember being introduced to the McGuire Sisters through those Time-Life infomercials with the short film clips that accompanied the songs. I remember they were gorgeous ladies in their prime. (And their voices had power that stood out in that era with harmonies that were on point.)
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Nope. We're going to exhume it, dust it off, and bring it back.
The best of luck with that!
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I remember being introduced to the McGuire Sisters through those Time-Life infomercials with the short film clips that accompanied the songs. I remember they were gorgeous ladies in their prime. (And their voices had power that stood out in that era with harmonies that were on point.)
@jmyrlefuller
They had a lovely career until Phyllis McGuire took up with mob legend Sam (Momo) Giancana in the early 1960s. An affair she ended only when she realised the connection was killing their career, which pretty much petered out by 1968 and their last appearance on The Ed Sullivan Show.
Before that, the McGuire Sisters got a hosing from their then-employer Arthur Godfrey. They were among the victims when, in 1953, Godfrey insanely purged just about the entire company that helped make him a ubiquitous broadcast feature and destroyed his everyman image practically overnight.
The whole megillah began when Godfrey began to sour on his own discovery Julius LaRosa. The reason: LaRosa's personal popularity began eclipsing Godfrey's own. LaRosa's fan mail outnumbered Godfrey's at last; he was also being courted for his own broadcasting turns as well as his early recording successes. If there was one thing at which Godfrey bristled behind the scenes, it was the idea that anyone on his show might actually become more popular. Making it worse: LaRosa hiring his own manager to handle the bookings that began coming his way away from the Godfrey orbit. (Godfrey believed only he alone could and should manage the non-show affairs of his cast, a belief shared by no one ever, apparently.)
If there was another thing Godfrey couldn't stand, it was romance among his company of "Little Godfreys" (as the press often called them). Including and perhaps especially between LaRosa and Dorothy McGuire: when her first marriage hit the rocks, she began keeping company with the earnest LaRosa. Before she and her husband could turn talk into action about a divorce (which finally happened in 1956), the husband was drafted to the Korean War, giving Godfrey the perfect opportunity to quash any romance between her and LaRosa by hammering the patriotic theme home to her no matter how dead her marriage might have become.
At the same time, Godfrey's bandleader Archie Bleyer had a romance of his own going with Janet Ertel of the singing Chordettes. Bleyer also committed another cardinal sin so far as Godfrey was concerned: the record company (Cadence Records) Bleyer co-created with LaRosa released an album of sketches from Don McNeil's popular Breakfast Club radio show---to Godfrey that was consorting with the enemy, since McNeil was a morning radio rival, never mind that McNeil's show might have been popular but nothing like Godfrey's own morning show.
So, on 19 October, 1953, after LaRosa annoyed Godfrey even further by refusing the ballet lessons Godfrey ordered for his cast (Godfrey got the idea in a bid to help everyone else look a little more graceful on their television shows, since Godfrey himself wasn't exactly Gene Kelly, but like many men in that time and place LaRosa considered the idea effeminate), Godfrey was ready when LaRosa closed the show singing "I'll Take Manhattan":
Thanks ever so much, Julie. That was Julie's swan song with us. He goes out now, on his own, as his own star, soon to be seen in his own programs, and I know you wish him Godspeed the same as I do.
Whose brilliant idea was it for Godfrey to fire LaRosa on the air? Then-CBS president Frank Stanton, who'd heard enough of Godfrey's complaining about his young breakout star. Finally, Stanton said, "You hired him on the air, why don't you fire him on the air?" (Godfrey had once invited LaRosa for a guest shot on the radio show while LaRosa was still in the Navy and said to his cheering studio audience and listeners, "When Julie gets out of the Navy, he'll come see us"---a bona-fide job offer.) Stanton later said publicly he regretted making the suggestion, as well he might considering the beating CBS took in the press as well as Godfrey.
For all his burgeoning success, LaRosa was still basically a kid who really was what his image suggested: the lucky bastard who caught a great break (when Godfrey discovered him singing with the Navy in World War II---after LaRosa's buddies got to Godfrey and convinced him to listen to their bud) and remained grateful for it for the rest of his life. He actually didn't know what "swan song" meant---the utterance of a dying swan was a metaphor for farewell. Somebody had to tell the poor soul he'd just been fired on the national air. It was headlines in the press the following day and Godfrey foolishly counterattacked by claiming LaRosa had "a lack of humility." Ed Sullivan promptly invited LaRosa onto his television show, prompting Godfrey to denounce Sullivan as "a dope" in the press. And, with LaRosa refusing to criticise Godfrey while still crediting him for any success he had to that point, it only made Godfrey look worse.
So what did Godfrey do on day two following the LaRosa on-the-air firing? He canned Archie Bleyer, the McGuire Sisters and the Chordettes. (Bleyer and Ertel had the last laugh, though: they married happily and remained married until Bleyer died in 1989.) He canned Bleyer. He dumped singer Bill Lawrence, freshly returned from the Army, claiming Lawrence's young fans were driving him berserk, an alibi that died when Lawrence revealed his own romance with another Chordette, Janette Davis. Godfrey also dumped his producer (another romance among a pair of Little Godfreys) and his writers ("heinous crimes" unknown).
The purged Little Godfreys had a few last laughs, though. The McGuires and the Chordettes became recording stars on their own. Bleyer's and LaRosa's Cadence Records not only put out the Chordettes' hits later in the 1950s but also became the discoverers of two of the nation's biggest recording acts at around the same time---the Everly Brothers and Andy Williams. (Williams eventually bought Cadence from Bleyer, in fact.) Bleyer and Ertel also married; the marriage ended only upon Bleyer's death in 1989. LaRosa never became quite the superstar he looked to be becoming, but he enjoyed a respectful career on records and on the nightclub and hotel circuits. Godfrey's television side ended in 1959 during his first battle with lung cancer, but he hung on in radio until 1972---enjoying nothing close to the national popularity he'd had before the great nsane purges of 1953.
Dorothy McGuire and Julius LaRosa never continued their relationship after the Godfrey purges. After her divorce, McGuire married a wealthy oil executive (the marriage lasted until her death in 2012), and LaRosa married a woman named Rosemary Meyer. Their marriage lasted until LaRosa died in 2016.)
RIP, McGuire Sisters.
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Thornburgh was a decent fellow, as I recall (as a sometimes-Pennsylvanian). :patriot:
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Thornburgh was a decent fellow, as I recall (as a sometimes-Pennsylvanian). :patriot:
I rode an elevator once with him. At the time he was out of politics and a big wheel with what was then the law firm of Kirkpatrick & Lockhart (now K&L Gates). My boss was in a meeting at K&L and needed something from the office brought to him, so off I went. Unfortunately, I got caught in a sudden shower, so I must have looked like a drowned rat when I got on the elevator. But Thornburg wasn't repulsed. Our conversation was brief, but he was jovial and cordial. Nice guy.
Rest in peace, Governor.
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@EasyAce
Thank you for the history of the McGuire Sisters and Arthur Godfrey. I knew a little about the story of Godfrey and LaRosa. I remember my mother was upset by LaRosa's on-air firing and still was years later when the subject came up. Godfrey was a real SOB, but I guess karma eventually bit him in the rear which was a good thing.
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@Applewood @EasyAce
I want to thank you both for your comments about Godfrey,his show,and his history. You guys make me feel like a teenybopper compared to you. About all I remember about Arthur Godfrey is he played a ukulele (I THINK),and didn't even seem to do that very well.
I have no reason to doubt either of your memories of tv back then,but it seems impossible to me that anybody was a threat,or even a competitor to Ed Sullivan back then. My memory is no doubt MUCH worse than yours for that period of time,but the way *I* remember it,"The Ed Sullivan Show" OWNED Sunday night teebee. I am sure he had competitors for his time slot,but I honestly have no idea who they were,and I truly feel sorry for them.
What makes this so strange looking back is that Sullivan seems to have zero talent of his own. Maybe because of this he had the good sense to just walk out on stage,welcome the audience,and introduce the acts before getting the hell out of the way.
He sure as hell didn't have any charisma,either. I have no idea how he came to own maybe the biggest live entertainment show on television back then.
Yeah,there were a couple of shows like Kraft Mystery Theater and Playhouse 90 that were so good they were and are timeless,not to mention The Twilight Zone,but they were all in different categories than Sullivan.
One thing about the Sullivan show that stands out in my mind is that he seems to have been the only major player on television back then that didn't hesitate to have black entertainers on his show. You HAVE to applaud both him,CBS,and his sponsors for having that kind of courage and sticking to it. I remember Louis Armstrong especially as being a regular guest star.
Oh,and we HAVE to give shout-outs to The Red Skelton Show as well as Groucho Marx and "You bet your life". I doubt either would have any trouble being hit shows even today. Red Skelton would "dance close to the edge of 50's moral acceptability,but Groucho must have made the set censors suicidal.
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The best of luck with that!
I'm working with kids now, doing my best to instill the "counterrevolutionary" principles of individual Liberty and the Constitution's Original Intent.
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@Gefn
Tina Louise is still alive.
You know, @EasyAce i forgot about Tina Louise. Poor woman didn’t age well.
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Obituary for the Year 2020:
You are not mourned. Good riddance.
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@EasyAce
Thank you for the history of the McGuire Sisters and Arthur Godfrey. I knew a little about the story of Godfrey and LaRosa. I remember my mother was upset by LaRosa's on-air firing and still was years later when the subject came up. Godfrey was a real SOB, but I guess karma eventually bit him in the rear which was a good thing.
@Applewood
I have the surviving clip (https://otrrlibrary.org/OTRRLib/Library%20Files/A%20Series/Arthur%20Godfrey%20Collection/Arthur%20Godfrey%20Collection%2053-10-15%20(x)%20Firing%20Julius%20La%20Rosa%20on%20the%20Air.mp3) of the LaRosa firing. Godfrey started deceptively by introducing LaRosa with somewhat effusive praise---and, remembering how awe-struck LaRosa was upon first joining Godfrey at "all those stars" on the show, telling LaRosa, "Julie, you don't know it, but I don't have any stars on my show. On my show we're all just a nice big family of very nice people like yourself." You'll hear LaRosa sing "Manhattan," then you'll hear the infamous kiss-off.
Godfrey was also once quoted as having told his Little Godfreys, "Remember that some of you are here over the bodies of those I have personally slain. I have done it before and I can do it again."
And, yet, for the rest of his life, LaRosa would never take Godfrey to task over that on-air firing. He'd tell anyone who asked him that Godfrey was the man most responsible for any success he had in his long career. Invariably. The nearest LaRosa would ever get to referring to how disgracefully he'd been treated by Godfrey was to say, simply, "He wasn't very nice to me."
I used to have a history of CBS written by Robert Metz, called CBS: Reflections in a Bloodshot Eye. There was a chapter devoted to Godfrey. Its title: "Arthur Godfrey: Everybody's an SOB to Somebody."
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@Applewood @EasyAce
I want to thank you both for your comments about Godfrey,his show,and his history. You guys make me feel like a teenybopper compared to you. About all I remember about Arthur Godfrey is he played a ukulele (I THINK),and didn't even seem to do that very well.
@sneakypete
Godfrey did indeed "play" the ukulele. Compared to him, Tiny Tim was the Wes Montgomery of uke players.
I have no reason to doubt either of your memories of tv back then,but it seems impossible to me that anybody was a threat,or even a competitor to Ed Sullivan back then. My memory is no doubt MUCH worse than yours for that period of time,but the way *I* remember it,"The Ed Sullivan Show" OWNED Sunday night teebee. I am sure he had competitors for his time slot,but I honestly have no idea who they were,and I truly feel sorry for them.
Sullivan took some time to become the Sunday night powerhouse he was. When his show debuted as Toast of the Town in 1948, he was so stiff on camera that wags nicknamed the show Toast of the Tomb.
Godfrey was hugely popular on radio in the 1940s and early 1950s and likewise on television when he made the transition himself in the late 1940s. He wasn't a Sunday entry, though: Arthur Godfrey's Talent Scouts aired on Monday nights; Arthur Godfrey and His Friends was his weekday morning radio show which went to television on Fridays, if I'm not mistaken. He was no threat to Ed Sullivan no matter how popular he was.
What makes this so strange looking back is that Sullivan seems to have zero talent of his own. Maybe because of this he had the good sense to just walk out on stage,welcome the audience,and introduce the acts before getting the hell out of the way.
What Sullivan had that set him apart was two things: 1) What you just said; and, 2) the man was an incomparable judge of entertainment. Not to mention that he had a knack for aligning the acts who came on his show in unusual ways, if you remember that a performance of classical music was liable to be followed almost immediately by an animal act, that sort of thing.
He also had a sense of humour about himself and let it onto his show---he was so well aware of what an awkward putz he looked on the air that he thought nothing of booking comedians who impersonated him on his own stage!
He sure as hell didn't have any charisma,either. I have no idea how he came to own maybe the biggest live entertainment show on television back then.
Sullivan was a longtime entertainment newspaper columnist and radio presence before CBS had the bright idea to bring him to television. Maybe the best single line summary of Sullivan's staying power came from the comedian Alan King: Ed Sullivan will last as long as someone else has talent.
Actually, Sullivan lasted until his rilly big shoes became too expensive to produce anymore, in 1974.
One of the bigger things about Sullivan---he let his performers do their thing live on the stage, rather than making them lip-synch to recordings. Practically every music star who either became stars with a gig on the Sullivan show or saw their stardom skyrocket with an appearance played it live, from the jazz and classical people to the rockers such as Elvis Presley, Buddy Holly & the Crickets, Sam Cooke, the Beatles (the no-questions asked most successful of the numerous acts Sullivan brought aboard from abroad), the Rolling Stones, the Dave Clark Five (Sullivan was especially attuned to the British Invasion after having bumped into the Beatles' popularity in England while going through an airport and promptly booking them for their world-changing February 1964 appearances), Jefferson Airplane, the Doors, and more.
One thing about the Sullivan show that stands out in my mind is that he seems to have been the only major player on television back then that didn't hesitate to have black entertainers on his show. You HAVE to applaud both him,CBS,and his sponsors for having that kind of courage and sticking to it. I remember Louis Armstrong especially as being a regular guest star.
Sullivan was unapologetic about bringing black and other ethnic talent aboard his show. Armstrong was a frequent guest star; Sullivan also booked such black entertainers as the Ink Spots, the Mills Brothers, Josephine Baker, Duke Ellington, Ella Fitzgerald, Nat King Cole, Harry Belafonte, Diahann Carroll, the Supremes, the Temptations, James Brown, and Sarah Vaughan. He did so despite protests from the deeper South that included newspaper editorials urging people to boycott the Sullivan show. Sullivan's popularity was big enough to allow him, essentially, to tell them go screw---even when they included his one-time sponsor Ford after the automaker threatened to block his show from being aired in the South.
Oh,and we HAVE to give shout-outs to The Red Skelton Show as well as Groucho Marx and "You bet your life". I doubt either would have any trouble being hit shows even today. Red Skelton would "dance close to the edge of 50's moral acceptability,but Groucho must have made the set censors suicidal.
Red Skelton was an odd duck. A no-questions-asked gifted clown but often caught behaving off the air like a spoiled child who couldn't bring himself to credit anyone else for his success---especially the writers who either helped create some of his famous characters or created them outright for him.
He, too, came to television from radio, and therein lies a tale: For a long time in the 1940s, tickets for Skelton's radio shows were coveted not for the show itself . . . but for Skelton's after-show performances. The man got himself so wired up performing live on the air that he kept it up after the show ended each week just to cool himself down little by little, and went into such an almost anarchic few more rounds before finally cooling that the Skelton after-show was considered one of the hottest tickets in town. If you copped tickets for a Skelton show you were considered as lucky as if you'd scored tickets for the radio shows of Jack Benny, Fred Allen, Fibber McGee & Molly, and CBS's longtime Monday night powerhouse Lux Radio Theater.
(The same phenomenon attached to The Phil Harris-Alice Faye Show in reverse: fans hoped to score tickets to be able to hear Phil Harris's monologues before the show went on the air every Sunday night from 1946---when they became the breakout stars of the formerly variety show The Fitch Bandwagon---until the show ended in 1954.)
Make the censors suicidal? Groucho would probably have made them want to kill each other as acts of mercy! Now, here's something I bet you didn't know survived---the lone surviving complete episode of a radio comedy Groucho and Chico Marx did in the early 1930s, Flywheel, Shyster and Flywheel, Attorneys at Law, an episode called "The Ocean Cruise (http://archive.org/download/FlywheelShysterAndFlywheel--theOriginal/Flywheelshysterflywheel-330522Episode26-theOceanCruise.mp3)." (If you have to ask why Harpo wasn't there . . . )
The show itself didn't survive for us beyond that episode and a couple of extracts from earlier episodes, but the scripts did: they were published as Flywheel, Shyster and Flywheel: The Marx Brothers' Lost Radio Show (https://www.amazon.com/Flywheel-Shyster-Marx-Brothers-Radio/dp/0679720367), edited by Michael Barson, in 1988. This was the original cover:
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You guessed it: I'm an old-time radio nut. I have as large a collection of old-time radio shows (you'd be amazed how many survived from how many series!) as I have a music library---I have over 16,000 old-time radio shows on an external hard drive tied to my computer, not to mention a small truckload of books about the era. Including the aforesaid Flywheel, Shyster & Flywheel plus, among others . . .
Goodman Ace, Ladies and Gentlemen---Easy Aces.
Fred Allen, Treadmill to Oblivion (about his radio years) and his memoir Much Ado About Me. (The memoir was published 7/8ths finished---Allen died of a heart attack in 1956, before he could finish the book.)
R. LeRoy Bannerman, On a Note of Triumph. (A biography of old-time radio's arguably greatest dramatist, the writer/director Norman Corwin; the title comes from the radio special Corwin wrote and delivered after V-E Day in 1945.)
Abe Burrows, Honest Abe. (Burrows co-created Duffy's Tavern and was involved in several other radio shows including his own, briefly, before he became a fabled playwright, humourist, and maybe Broadway's number-one script doctor.)
Mickey Cohen, How Fibber McGee & Molly Won World War II (A delightful review of the show's particular wartime-theme episodes.)
Jim Cox, Frank and Anne Hummert's Radio Factory. (The story of the couple who dominated radio soap opera making.)
John Crosby, Out of the Blue. (An anthology of Crosby's radio and television criticism for The New York Times.)
John Dunning, On the Air: The Encyclopedia of Old-Time Radio. (Just what it says, with as full entries as possible for a few hundred shows.)
Elizabeth McLeod, The Original Amos 'n' Andy. (She debunks completely the accusations of racism attached to the show and argues that, in fact, the show and its two performers were as popular among black listeners as white listeners---because they presented blacks not as caricatures but as living, breathing men struggling to make a business work and to make life work like anyone else.)
Henry Morgan, Here's Morgan. (The memoir of the man who was probably the edgiest radio comedian of his time. His (https://otrrlibrary.org/OTRRLib/Library%20Files/H%20Series/Here's%20Morgan/) radio show (https://otrrlibrary.org/OTRRLib/Library%20Files/H%20Series/Henry%20Morgan%20Show/) is still a blast to listen to, incidentally. His signature sign-on: "Good evening, anybody, here's Morgan." His signature sign-off: "Morgan'll be back on the same corner in front of the cigar store next week.")
Gerald Nachman, Raised on Radio. (An excellent history of network radio.)
Jim Ramsburg, Network Radio Ratings 1932-1953. (Covers the spread from when radio ratings began being taken until the last year radio ratings were taken in hand with the growing television world, complete with brief sketches of particular shows trending, rising, falling, or doing unusual or controversial things.)
James Thurber, The Beast in Me. (I include this because this anthology includes his remarkable four-part New Yorker series on the radio soaps, including copuous space given to one of the Hummerts' most prolific soap writers, Charles Robert Hardy Andrews.)
Jordan R. Young, The Laugh Crafters. (Interviews with some of old-time radio comedy's best writers, including several who worked for people like Jack Benny, Duffy's Tavern, Fred Allen, and Red Skelton.)
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@EasyAce @sneakypete
Re: Ed Sullivan and his lack of stage presence
Sullivan was an entertainment critic for newspapers before making the jump to television. In many ways, he was to entertainment what Howard Cosell would become to sports a few years later. They weren't experienced themselves in the crafts they were analyzing, but they were experts: they knew what worked. They went to so many plays and concerts (in Sullivan's case) or matches (in Cosell's) that they were students of their craft.
Sullivan knew how to assemble good entertainment, and stay out of the way of it. That's what differed him from, example, Walter Winchell, a man so enamored with his own voice and ego that his attempt to counter Sullivan became a late-night punchline.
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@EasyAce @sneakypete
Re: Ed Sullivan and his lack of stage presence
. . . In many ways, he was to entertainment what Howard Cosell would become to sports a few years later. They weren't experienced themselves in the crafts they were analyzing, but they were experts: they knew what worked.
Howard Cosell wasn't half as wooden on camera as Ed Sullivan was. Possibly, because Cosell was almost entirely a product of television, having begun on camera in the 1950s---he began as a local sports reporter for New York WABC---as opposed to Sullivan having had almost as much radio experience as he had newspaper experience prior to his television jump.
Sullivan looked almost terminally ill-at-ease on television, even after he'd had a decade on camera, and it had the effect of making his viewers empathise with him. But the very thing you noted is what made the difference between himself and Cosell---Sullivan knew how to stay out of his own way while Cosell, like Walter Winchell, never did. Which was a shame, because at his absolute best Cosell was a great reporter and analyst. (Except for baseball. Not for nothing did Thomas Boswell once give as one of his 99 reasons why baseball was better than football, "The best football announcer is Howard Cosell. The worst baseball announcer is Howard Cosell.")
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@EasyAce @jmyrlefuller
I enjoyed both of your posts so much! Thank you both.
Sounds like Red Skelton was the Robin Williams of his day.
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@EasyAce Thank you so much for the inside story early Television/ radio. Absolutely fascinating. When you write your book I would ove an autographed copy.
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@EasyAce Thank you so much for the inside story early Television/ radio. Absolutely fascinating. When you write your book I would ove an autographed copy.
@verga
When I do, you'll get one!
If you want the real inside stories about the network radio era, I recommend these books (I listed some of them earlier, but what the hell, they deserve a rerun . . . ) . . .
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Sounds like Red Skelton was the Robin Williams of his day.
@berdie
Apparently, he was---during those legendary after-show performances. On the air, Skelton wasn't even close to being that edgy. If anyone actually on the air could have been called the Robin Williams of old-time radio, it was probably Henry Morgan. Taking cues from his hero Fred Allen, Morgan went even farther with freewheeling barbs aimed at radio's very industry, and he was one of the first radio comedians to zap his own sponsors on the air.
In fact, once upon a time Morgan's sponsor zaps actually increased business for the company. His early, fully improvised, three-times-weekly fifteen-minute shows for Mutual Broadcasting System were sponsored by the Adler shoe store chain and the company's "elevator shoes." (The company claimed its elevator shoes would add two inches to a man's height; Morgan retorted by wondering what would happen to his pants in that case.) Morgan was thatclose to being dumped by the chain over his barbs at "old man Adler" . . . until someone told the actual old man, Jesse Adler, that people were flocking to the Adler stores hoping to meet Old Man Adler himself!
One of Morgan's later sponsors wasn't quite that amused by a Morgan barb sticking in its ample craw: while Morgan was still on Mutual, his sponsorship was taken over by Life-Savers candy. Morgan zapped Life-Savers for cheating the public with the holes in the middle and offered to sell the drilled-out bits as "Morgan's Mint Middles." Life-Savers dropped him.
That was pre-World War II. After the war, Morgan was picked up for a weekly half-hour series on ABC. The network that was created after NBC was forced to spit off its Blue Network in an anti-trust action. The network bought (and re-named to ABC) by . . . Edward J. Noble, chief of Life-Savers. His half-hour was sponsored by Eversharp for its Schick injector razor, which it liked to push with "just push-pull, click-click"----whoops! Morgan couldn't resist such barbs as "push-pull, nick-nick!" and, on a show he dedicated to education, "They're educational. Try one. That'll teach you."
Morgan even made the military nervous. Sometimes, he liked to end a show with a joky weather report, such as "High winds, followed by high skirts, followed by men"; and, "Muggy tomorrow, followed by Tuegy, Wedgy, Thurgy, and Frigy." The Navy wasn't amused and actually tried to pressure Morgan's networks into putting a stop to them.
(In fairness, Morgan wasn't the only radio comedy figure who got a military boot in the backside. The Air Force's recruiting service sponsored mr. ace and JANE, a half-hour update of Goodman Ace's earlier, fifteen-minute serial comedy Easy Aces, in 1948. They sponsored the new show, that is, until Ace wrote and the show delivered two wicked satires of civil courtroom trials, an episode in which Ace's malapropping wife Jane found herself on a jury and promptly drove the court to the rye bottle and back. [The penultimate punch line: the judge fining Mr. Ace $50 dollars for being married to her in the first place.] The Air Force objected to the satire for "undermining" the rule of law and dropped the show promptly. Not to worry: the show was picked up at once by General Foods for Jell-O. What was to worry: the show didn't take hold quite the way Ace's earlier exercise did: Easy Aces had lasted fifteen years; mr. ace and JANE one.)
Morgan's once-famous sign-on, "Good evening, anybody, here's Morgan," was a zap at Kate Smith's "Hello, everybody!" sign-on. Morgan once explained it: Kate Smith thought everybody really was listening to her; I, on the other hand, was grateful if anybody was listening.
Even late in his life, Morgan couldn't resist digs at sponsors. Hosting a little radio slot in New York near the end of his life, Morgan did a bit looking back on the classic radio era and couldn't resist singing a once-famous jingle for a popular soda:
Pepsi-Cola hits the spot
Twelve full ounces, that's a lot
Twice as much for a nickel, too---
Pepsi-Cola is the drink for you.
The problem was . . . the slot was sponsored by Coca-Cola!
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@EasyAce @jmyrlefuller
I enjoyed both of your posts so much! Thank you both.
Sounds like Red Skelton was the Robin Williams of his day.
Red Skelton was one of the funniest men I ever saw, I was fortunate enough to see two of his shows in later years and even to talk with him from time to time at his shop in Orange, CA. Red Skelton invariably did the Pledge Of Allegiance with an explanation of the words.
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Also Red Skelton ended every single show with "God Bless".
I agree that Robin Williams was a very guy but in my opinion he was no Red Skelton.
Here is some history about who was responsible for Red Skelton's success. https://blog.history.in.gov/tag/guzzlers-gin/ (https://blog.history.in.gov/tag/guzzlers-gin/)
Here is his Guzzlers Gin bit, you might notice just how much of Lucy's Vita Vita Vegamin bit lifts from him.
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Here is some history about who was responsible for Red Skelton's success. https://blog.history.in.gov/tag/guzzlers-gin/ (https://blog.history.in.gov/tag/guzzlers-gin/)
@GtHawk
It's just a shame that Skelton went from, "Without her I'd still be making $10 a week," to finally denying she ever existed starting around a decade after their divorce. (The divorce didn't stop her from continuing as his manager and head writer for a few years to follow.)
It's also a shame that Skelton and his wife not only never credited those among his writers who created characters for him but that he belittled them every chance he had.
Red was suspicious of anything new and didn't always understand the humour of it right away. He might have to mull it over a couple of weeks or a couple of months. Later, he'd pull it out of the joke file and offer it as something he'd just originated and put it in the script, and then say, 'Now why can't you guys come up with something like that?' If any of us dared to say we already had, he'd blow his stack.---Ben Freedman, who worked for Skelton in radio.
You just stayed out of his way. He felt they were all his characters and he didn't want to divide up the honours with the writers.---Larry Rhine, who created Skelton's fabled Clem Kadiddlehopper for him.
I had grave reservations when CBS asked me to do the Skelton [television] show, because I knew he was crazy---talented but crazy. I'd heard he was particularly vicious with writers. He was in deep trouble when I joined him, because he was going a [radio] show that was 80 percent verbal and 20 percent mime. I changed the format and added much more mime and turned the show around in a few months . . . Red never gave any credit to anyone. Non credit never bothered me--I've given away credit so people could get into the Writers Guild. It was not just Skelton's neglect of writers but his attacks on them. On talk shows, he'd always say how useless they were. He never understood the philosophy behind a show.---Sherwood Schwartz, later a successful television producer but then a writer for Skelton's television show. Schwartz also revealed the reason for one of Skelton's most familiar television ticks, his habit of breaking up over his own gags: He didn't do it to get a laugh but so he could look at the script on the floor. He couldn't remember a joke.
Schwartz left the Skelton show in due course and Skelton retaliated by firing his brother, Al, also a writer on the show. "They told me," Sherwood said, "how those beady little eyes of his narrowed and he yelled, 'Fire that other f@cking Schwartz, too! And from now on I don't want any more Schwartzes working on my show.' My brother, who was a trusting, innocent soul, didn't get it. I told him, 'Look, we're talking about [the mentality of] a six-year-old child'."
Contrast that with Jack Benny, Fred Allen, and others who went out of their way to boost their writers and often credited them more than themselves for what worked on their shows. (Fred Allen had a running gag where, if a joke didn't work, he'd make a crack like, "The writer who provided that joke is now providing himself with unemployment insurance"---an idea suggested to him by one of his writers.)
I've listened to enough of Red Skelton's radio shows to know that it was a shame nobody thought about filming his legendary after-show performances unheard by his normal radio listeners. The radio shows were good, but Red Skelton really did belong more on television where he could be seen. He may have been a pr!ck to work for, but the man really was a genuinely great clown.
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@GtHawk
It's just a shame that Skelton went from, "Without her I'd still be making $10 a week," to finally denying she ever existed starting around a decade after their divorce. (The divorce didn't stop her from continuing as his manager and head writer for a few years to follow.)
It's also a shame that Skelton and his wife not only never credited those among his writers who created characters for him but that he belittled them every chance he had.
Red was suspicious of anything new and didn't always understand the humour of it right away. He might have to mull it over a couple of weeks or a couple of months. Later, he'd pull it out of the joke file and offer it as something he'd just originated and put it in the script, and then say, 'Now why can't you guys come up with something like that?' If any of us dared to say we already had, he'd blow his stack.---Ben Freedman, who worked for Skelton in radio.
You just stayed out of his way. He felt they were all his characters and he didn't want to divide up the honours with the writers.---Larry Rhine, who created Skelton's fabled Clem Kadiddlehopper for him.
I had grave reservations when CBS asked me to do the Skelton [television] show, because I knew he was crazy---talented but crazy. I'd heard he was particularly vicious with writers. He was in deep trouble when I joined him, because he was going a [radio] show that was 80 percent verbal and 20 percent mime. I changed the format and added much more mime and turned the show around in a few months . . . Red never gave any credit to anyone. Non credit never bothered me--I've given away credit so people could get into the Writers Guild. It was not just Skelton's neglect of writers but his attacks on them. On talk shows, he'd always say how useless they were. He never understood the philosophy behind a show.---Sherwood Schwartz, later a successful television producer but then a writer for Skelton's television show. Schwartz also revealed the reason for one of Skelton's most familiar television ticks, his habit of breaking up over his own gags: He didn't do it to get a laugh but so he could look at the script on the floor. He couldn't remember a joke.
Schwartz left the Skelton show in due course and Skelton retaliated by firing his brother, Al, also a writer on the show. "They told me," Sherwood said, "how those beady little eyes of his narrowed and he yelled, 'Fire that other f@cking Schwartz, too! And from now on I don't want any more Schwartzes working on my show.' My brother, who was a trusting, innocent soul, didn't get it. I told him, 'Look, we're talking about [the mentality of] a six-year-old child'."
Contrast that with Jack Benny, Fred Allen, and others who went out of their way to boost their writers and often credited them more than themselves for what worked on their shows. (Fred Allen had a running gag where, if a joke didn't work, he'd make a crack like, "The writer who provided that joke is now providing himself with unemployment insurance"---an idea suggested to him by one of his writers.)
I've listened to enough of Red Skelton's radio shows to know that it was a shame nobody thought about filming his legendary after-show performances unheard by his normal radio listeners. The radio shows were good, but Red Skelton really did belong more on television where he could be seen. He may have been a pr!ck to work for, but the man really was a genuinely great clown.
It seems that our heroes or those that we admire often have feet of clay, maybe more so the great comedians. Oddly, or maybe not, the Wikipedia page for Red Skelton has a different genesis for some of his characters like Clem which the wiki page attributes to Red basing it on an old hard of hearing neighbor. I would think that people would write in corrections, but hen maybe those writers who actually developed characters for him, or their families, took the higher road and left the image of Red that we all learned to love in his performances.
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It seems that our heroes or those that we admire often have feet of clay, maybe more so the great comedians. Oddly, or maybe not, the Wikipedia page for Red Skelton has a different genesis for some of his characters like Clem which the wiki page attributes to Red basing it on an old hard of hearing neighbor. I would think that people would write in corrections, but hen maybe those writers who actually developed characters for him, or their families, took the higher road and left the image of Red that we all learned to love in his performances.
They may well have taken that higher road.
Skelton had a harsh life from his early youth. From everything I've read of him, he seems to have taken it out severely on those whom he professed to love at home, and those with whom he worked, and knew only how to love the strangers who comprised his audiences in studio, on screen, listening on radio, or watching on television. He once said there was noting nobler than making people laugh. Who knew it meant strangers as opposed to his own loved ones and friends?
It's as though he knew and believed to his soul two things above all: 1) Those strangers couldn't hurt him. b) Playing his characters took him out of his own self but he knew too well he couldn't stay there. The show has to end sooner or later. That wouldn't make Skelton too different from numerous other performers of his or any generation, of course. (Jackie Gleason comes to mind almost immediately.)
For a study in a complete opposite, consider Fred Allen. He, too, had a harsh childhood; he, too, came from vaudeville; but he left the vaudeville style behind when he moved to radio in 1932 and rarely if ever looked back, and he succeeded in not letting his childhood embitter him. He not only developed his own comedy style (including pioneering the news satires that soon became common enough among comedians), he was known to be generous to a fault with both his wife (Portland Hoffa, also his on-air partner), his cast, his staffers, and complete strangers. Allen was far more prone to battling imperious network officials and censors than battling his wife, cast, staffers, and complete strangers, often inserting zaps against network executives in general but biting terms into his shows.
And he was funny as hell, even and especially when ad-libbing. (When Allen and Jack Benny kicked off their once-famous running gag of a feud, Benny's side of it made plenty of wisecracks about Allen's ad-libbing. The feud was so successful many didn't realise the two men were not only good friends in real life but often had each other's writers come up with zaps. In actuality, Allen considered Benny the first radio comedian to work with radio as its own medium of mind and imagination and not just struggle to make vaudeville work invisibly as many of the earliest radio comedians did. Jack Benny has been my friend for thirty-nine years, Allen wrote once, and I hope to be his friend for thirty-nine more.)
He was known to drop $100 bills on friends he hadn't seen in ages and downtrodden strangers alike, he would talk to fans whenever they recognised him on the street, and the only apparent interruption to his life and his style was the lifelong hypertension he suffered that finally forced him off the full-time air as a host/head writer in 1949 (Allen worked almost all week long putting his scripts together from the best of what his staff writers and himself came up with for each week's exercise) and delivered his fatal heart attack in 1956, before he could finish his memoir Much Ado About Me.
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@verga
When I do, you'll get one!
If you want the real inside stories about the network radio era, I recommend these books (I listed some of them earlier, but what the hell, they deserve a rerun . . . ) . . .
Thank you, I have made more than enough book purchases (according to vergette) these last 9 months. I will see if the local library has them or if I can use the interlibrary exchange.
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Thank you, I have made more than enough book purchases (according to vergette) these last 9 months. I will see if the local library has them or if I can use the interlibrary exchange.
@verga, if e-books work for you, check out whether your library "loans" e-books. My daughter "borrowed" e-books from the Santa Clara County Library when she was living in China.
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One year ago today. Harbinger that 2020 would Royally Suck.....
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RUSH - Finding My Way
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