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Re: The Tables Down at Mory's
« Reply #1400 on: January 02, 2016, 01:38:36 am »
Did you see this article?

Which article, T_S?  It's the link for his entire page.   I'm starting to go through them now.

His trademark in a certain phase is a woman gazing away...window...porch...balcony.




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« Reply #1401 on: January 02, 2016, 01:40:35 am »
The only way to know how much it is worth is to put it up on auction. Then you will know the real actual value, regardless of what any expert 'appraiser' says.

Even then, you need a number in mind.

Is it $10,000?  Is it one million?
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« Reply #1402 on: January 02, 2016, 01:47:24 am »
Okay...I see one on page two, where I can request an appraisal.  Thanks.
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« Reply #1403 on: January 02, 2016, 02:41:13 am »
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« Reply #1404 on: January 02, 2016, 02:51:57 am »
That is one skill I have mastered.

It's a new year.   You're a late bloomer.

Shine your shoes and get a haircut and a manicure. 

And most of all...smile.   And mean it.    :beer:

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Re: The Tables Down at Mory's
« Reply #1405 on: January 02, 2016, 03:07:26 am »
Which article, T_S?  It's the link for his entire page.   I'm starting to go through them now.


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Re: The Tables Down at Mory's
« Reply #1406 on: January 02, 2016, 03:12:47 am »


I have a signed number AP22, for which I paid $1,175., back in 1989.

I cannot find any place I can get a knowledgeable, honest appraisal. 

http://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=john+p+o%27brien+artist

The only way to know how much it is worth is to put it up on auction. Then you will know the real actual value, regardless of what any expert 'appraiser' says.


Yes.  It is worth what someone is willing to pay and that depends on where you are selling it and who you are selling it to.  I'm not an expert on art, but I owned antique shops and antique malls for over twenty six years - and I would often come across prints or paintings that I had no clue what to ask for. 

In the old days, I would list it on ebay with a really high reserve and watch the bids come in.  Normally, it didn't sell for the reserve price but I had a pool of bidders to contact and deal on a price (which I now had a pretty good idea of what people are willing to pay).  I don't do ebay anymore, so I don't know if you still can do that.

The advantage of having a shop is that I could put it on the floor without a price and see how many people asked about it - that helped to gauge the interest in it.  After a few offers, I would have a good idea of what to ask.

If my gut told me the piece was something really special - I would take it to our local art museum and talk to the experts.  They wouldn't tell me value, but they would tell me enough to do some research on it. 

If there is an art gallery nearby that deals in the type of art you have, see if they are interested in buying it - they will offer you probably one-third to one-half of what they think they can sell it for.  You can figure out the worth that way too.  Most people are not going to be able to hook up with that one customer that is really going to want it - unless they sell it online themselves.  Otherwise, you are almost always better off selling it wholesale to a dealer and letting him worry about getting the top dollar for it.  Overall, art and antiques are not that good of investments unless you are buying some mega-quality high end pieces.  I always say, "don't worry about what it is worth - buy it because you love it and are willing to pay that price for it".  There is also a big difference in an appraisal for insurance purposes and an appraisal for what the piece might actually sell for in the current market. 

Lastly, massadvj is a person that has a lot of knowledge of high-end antiques.  I would ask him about it.

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« Reply #1407 on: January 02, 2016, 03:44:20 am »
Thanks, Lea.

I'm thinking an agent would earn 20%...but what's to keep him/her colluding with the buyer and then the agent double dipping at the other end?

I'd be like that guy who sold his BILLIONS of Apple stock for eight hundred bucks.   :laugh: 

It's his Art Deco period, too, so I don't know how much of a demand there is for it compared to his early scenes with softer tones, etc..

Hmmm, then again, maybe I have a diamond of sorts.    :shrug:
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Re: The Tables Down at Mory's
« Reply #1408 on: January 02, 2016, 04:07:15 am »
Thanks, Lea.

I'm thinking an agent would earn 20%...but what's to keep him/her colluding with the buyer and then the agent double dipping at the other end?

I'd be like that guy who sold his BILLIONS of Apple stock for eight hundred bucks.   :laugh: 

It's his Art Deco period, too, so I don't know how much of a demand there is for it compared to his early scenes with softer tones, etc..

Hmmm, then again, maybe I have a diamond of sorts.    :shrug:

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I'm thinking an agent would earn 20%...but what's to keep him/her colluding with the buyer and then the agent double dipping at the other end?

There is nothing to keep that from happening and it happens a lot.  Sellers have favored buyers that they've worked hard to build loyalty with.  There are all kinds of deals that are made.  And nowadays, I'm seeing up to 30% commissions on services.

If it's something that is valuable and they have buyers for it - you will see by the interest they show and they won't want to let you leave their business without making a deal.  Have you done a Google search on that particular print?

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« Reply #1409 on: January 02, 2016, 04:15:38 am »
There is nothing to keep that from happening and it happens a lot.  Sellers have favored buyers that they've worked hard to build loyalty with.  There are all kinds of deals that are made.  And nowadays, I'm seeing up to 30% commissions on services.

If it's something that is valuable and they have buyers for it - you will see by the interest they show and they won't want to let you leave their business without making a deal.  Have you done a Google search on that particular print?

I can find it in the series and the name of it.   It's titled 'Evening at a Glance'.  I can never find a page that gives estimates or ranges of value.

Mine was already professionally matted and framed for that price.  So I figured the piece was valued at $950. back then.  It's in flawless condition, of course.

It's not even hung in my home because it's not my style.  I'm more Mission Style cherry and oak...leather.

But I did have a contemporary phase.  LOL! 
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Re: The Tables Down at Mory's
« Reply #1410 on: January 02, 2016, 04:31:18 am »
I can find it in the series and the name of it.   It's titled 'Evening at a Glance'.  I can never find a page that gives estimates or ranges of value.

Mine was already professionally matted and framed for that price.  So I figured the piece was valued at $950. back then.  It's in flawless condition, of course.

It's not even hung in my home because it's not my style.  I'm more Mission Style cherry and oak...leather.

But I did have a contemporary phase.  LOL!

Here's one for sale on Etsy, not sure if it's signed:
https://www.etsy.com/listing/257243698/evening-at-a-glance?ref=related-5

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« Reply #1411 on: January 02, 2016, 04:36:12 am »
Here's one for sale on Etsy, not sure if it's signed:
https://www.etsy.com/listing/257243698/evening-at-a-glance?ref=related-5

Thanks, Lea.

That gives me general idea.  Now I want to know why my number on the piece are ap22, and not appear as a fraction.
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« Reply #1412 on: January 02, 2016, 01:39:48 pm »
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« Reply #1413 on: January 02, 2016, 10:52:05 pm »


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« Reply #1414 on: January 03, 2016, 01:40:45 am »
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« Reply #1416 on: January 08, 2016, 01:39:55 am »
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Re: The Tables Down at Mory's
« Reply #1417 on: January 09, 2016, 02:46:09 am »


Betty White in her 20's....
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« Reply #1418 on: January 09, 2016, 02:59:55 am »


Betty White in her 20's....

Wow.  She's got really good......bone structure. 

That's what they call curves!

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« Reply #1419 on: January 09, 2016, 03:04:43 am »
Wow.  She's got really good......bone structure. 

That's what they call curves!

LOL!  I catch myself staring at them.  'Them', the pictures...them.    :laugh:
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« Reply #1420 on: January 09, 2016, 02:03:06 pm »
Are you sure that was her?

She was a fetching young lady in her prime... but she was also a brunette.


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« Reply #1421 on: January 10, 2016, 02:19:00 am »
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