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Re: TOMBSTONE - and the Western Genre
« Reply #25 on: February 01, 2012, 12:10:52 am »

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Re: TOMBSTONE - and the Western Genre
« Reply #26 on: February 01, 2012, 03:55:12 am »
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Re: TOMBSTONE - and the Western Genre
« Reply #27 on: February 01, 2012, 01:41:46 pm »
Speaking of Westerns, sort of, I tried to watch "Brokeback Mountain" on TV the other night. I figured, well, even though the subject matter doesn't appeal to me, it was highly regarded, so what the heck.

OMG, one of the top ten worst movies I've ever seen in my life! Clearly, all those great reviews were nothing more than political correctness run amok.  Augghhh. I didn't even watch the whole thing and I feel the need to repent for wasting a few hours of my life in that way.
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Re: TOMBSTONE - and the Western Genre
« Reply #28 on: February 01, 2012, 03:15:26 pm »
Which one did you like better, Lando?

One of the things that has always bugged me about these gunfight scenes is that Hollywood loses all sense of reality when it comes to how many bullets a SIX-SHOTTER can fire.

Open range was notorious for that.  In one scene, Costner had as many as a extra-large 9mm clip.

It has been awhile but I recall that I liked Wyatt Earp better overall between the two.  I believe it better depicted how narrow the separation was between the "good" and the "bad" in order for the good to prevail.  Val Kilmer played Doc Holliday far better than Dennis Quaid, tho. 


I know the scene in Open Range you speak of... at least a dozen shots were fired in rapid succession.  Why would they film it that way?
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Re: TOMBSTONE - and the Western Genre
« Reply #29 on: February 01, 2012, 08:49:13 pm »
Lonesome Dove!  Loved that series. 


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Re: TOMBSTONE - and the Western Genre
« Reply #30 on: February 01, 2012, 11:10:35 pm »
Yes....Lonesome Dove was terrific.

Anything Robert Duvall does in the Western genre is a huge hit.  Not that he made the series by himself.....
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Re: TOMBSTONE - and the Western Genre
« Reply #31 on: February 01, 2012, 11:56:45 pm »
Yes....Lonesome Dove was terrific.

Anything Robert Duvall does in the Western genre is a huge hit.  Not that he made the series by himself.....

Way too much attention is paid to Brad Pitt and George Clooney, Roberty Duvall is 10 x the actor either man will ever be.
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Re: TOMBSTONE - and the Western Genre
« Reply #32 on: February 02, 2012, 02:41:48 am »
Way too much attention is paid to Brad Pitt and George Clooney, Roberty Duvall is 10 x the actor either man will ever be.

Agreed, agreed, agreed.  Amazing he played Boo in To Kill a Mockingbird.
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Re: TOMBSTONE - and the Western Genre
« Reply #33 on: February 02, 2012, 02:53:52 am »
I thought Brad Pitt was very good in Legends of the Fall.

We'll call it a Western hybrid.
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Re: TOMBSTONE - and the Western Genre
« Reply #34 on: February 02, 2012, 02:58:14 am »
I just watched the clip of the Tombstone gunfight.  Doc (Val Kilmer) fires three times from the double barrel.  I guess he must have reloaded.
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Re: TOMBSTONE - and the Western Genre
« Reply #36 on: February 02, 2012, 03:23:54 am »
I thought Brad Pitt was very good in Legends of the Fall.

We'll call it a Western hybrid.

Yes, but then he went more commercial rather than meaty roles.  Legends had a great cast and script.
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Re: TOMBSTONE - and the Western Genre
« Reply #37 on: February 02, 2012, 03:32:24 am »

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Can't help it!

Because of that scene and the one where he cold cocked the horse, I always treated Blazing Saddles as a comedy.

I wouldn't hesitate to put the remote down should it appear on the screen...but it's not a serious Western imho. 
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Re: TOMBSTONE - and the Western Genre
« Reply #38 on: February 02, 2012, 03:34:36 am »

For a Fistful of Dollars

Now THIS is a good one!
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Re: TOMBSTONE - and the Western Genre
« Reply #40 on: February 02, 2012, 03:38:59 am »
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Re: TOMBSTONE - and the Western Genre
« Reply #41 on: February 02, 2012, 03:44:37 am »
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Re: TOMBSTONE - and the Western Genre
« Reply #42 on: February 02, 2012, 03:45:48 am »

Tombstone Part 8 of 13

Here's the shootout, I believe.  Doc gets the shotgun.

He shoots those pistols at least 20 times after he throws down the shotgun...especially when he's trying to shoot into the store where Ike is hiding.
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Re: TOMBSTONE - and the Western Genre
« Reply #44 on: February 02, 2012, 03:55:57 am »
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Re: TOMBSTONE - and the Western Genre
« Reply #45 on: February 02, 2012, 04:00:32 am »
Thanks for starting this thread DCP.  Great stuff!
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Re: TOMBSTONE - and the Western Genre
« Reply #48 on: February 02, 2012, 04:19:10 am »
Darn you, Lando! 

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Re: TOMBSTONE - and the Western Genre
« Reply #49 on: February 02, 2012, 04:23:52 am »
There never was or will be again anyone like John Wayne.
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