Chauvin Verdict coming out 3:30-4:30 Eastern Time

[mystery-ak]

Derek Chauvin taken to maximum-security prison after murder conviction
https://nypost.com/2021/04/21/derek-chauvin-taken-to-minnesota-correctional-facility-oak-park-heights-maximum-security-prison/

[DB]

Yeah. I know all that... Yet he did not render aid when the guy went out. I think that can be defended, don't get me wrong, but of all the charges thrown around, that is the only one I would think might actually have some traction.

As it turns out, I was wrong about that... At least until appeal.

It likely wasn't rendered because the officers were in a defensive stance due to the angry mob threatening them.

And the bottom line is there's nothing any of the officers could have done to keep him from dying. They man killed himself with a combination of bad health and a serious drug overdose.

[Bigun]

If the races were reversed, it would’ve been just a local story

No story at all is more likely if you ask me.

[goatprairie]

Chauvin may have used excessive force, but it's still questionable as to whether Floyd died from the pressure on his neck from Chauvin's knee or how much the dangerous level of lethal drugs in Floyd's system and his bad heart killed him.
I'm against knee maneuvers like that, but it was legal at the time. It must have been used in the past without killing a perp or they would have banned it by now.
Nevertheless, given all the factors involved the most Chauvin should have gotten was manslaughter. It was definitely not murder in any degree given Floyd's resisting arrest and very poor health.

[dfwgator]

If the races were reversed, it would’ve been just a local story

Of course.

[catfish1957]

O.J weighing in yesterday as a "credible" voice on the matter, was the real "twilight zone" moment of the day.

[IsailedawayfromFR]

Let black Communities become Shariah  No Go Zones for all I care.

After Biden forces the poor into more affluent neighborhoods in the name of 'inclusiveness' and 'equity', this will be everywhere, except for the rural areas.

[Bigun]

We have entire agencies of government dedicated to workplace safety but if your workplace is a police cruiser in a hostile neighborhood you are on your own!

[mountaineer]

O.J weighing in yesterday as a "credible" voice on the matter, was the real "twilight zone" moment of the day.

Or "Bizarro World," as the case may be.

[LMAO]

 I hear the word “reforms” tossed around.  Criminal justice reform, police reform, and societal at-large reform

But these reforms seem to be a one-way street. I don’t hear anyone talking about how the black community it’s self needs to reform. The only way to bring crime down is to get tough on crime. Rudy Giuliani showed how it can be done. Reforms only increase crime

[cato potatoe]

O.J weighing in yesterday as a "credible" voice on the matter, was the real "twilight zone" moment of the day.

Where was Derek Chauvin on the evening of June 12, 1994? 

[goatprairie]

I hear the word “reforms” tossed around.  Criminal justice reform, police reform, and societal at-large reform

But these reforms seem to be a one-way street. I don’t hear anyone talking about how the black community it’s self needs to reform. The only way to bring crime down is to get tough on crime. Rudy Giuliani showed how it can be done. Reforms only increase crime

The police are less than one percent of the problems of black people. They think it's about 80%.
I say let's quit policing black areas and see what shakes out. We know what happens when the police back off. The black homicide rate skyrockets.
I think I'm probably not alone when I say I don't care about their 99% self-caused problems. I just want them to keep their distance from me.

[mountaineer]

Where was Derek Chauvin on the evening of June 12, 1994?

Must have been hanging out with that known racist, Mark Fuhrman. 

[mystery-ak]

CNN’s Van Jones on Chauvin Verdict: ‘The Voting Worked,’ ‘The Protesting Worked’
https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2021/04/21/cnns-van-jones-on-chauvin-verdict-the-voting-worked-the-protesting-worked/



*protesting*..you mean *riots*.....

[catfish1957]

CNN’s Van Jones on Chauvin Verdict: ‘The Voting Worked,’ ‘The Protesting Worked’
https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2021/04/21/cnns-van-jones-on-chauvin-verdict-the-voting-worked-the-protesting-worked/



*protesting*..you mean *riots*.....

Basically an admittance that reverse "Jim Crow" tactics works like a charm.

[mountaineer]

*protesting*..you mean *riots*.....

They threatened to destroy these jurors and their city. Yeah, it worked.

[BassWrangler]

Basically an admittance that reverse "Jim Crow" tactics works like a charm.

Imagine being proud of the fact that you were able to corrupt the judicial process by throwing a national tantrum. And now that they were successful, we can expect more and more of this. We will have a two tier justice system - one set of rules for the protected classes, and another for everyone else. Can't wait to see this come back around and bite them on the ass.

[roamer_1]

It likely wasn't rendered because the officers were in a defensive stance due to the angry mob threatening them.

And the bottom line is there's nothing any of the officers could have done to keep him from dying. They man killed himself with a combination of bad health and a serious drug overdose.

yeah, I get it. Like I said, it is defensible. I am just saying that is about the only thing that shoulda had legs. The accusation would be legit.

[LegalAmerican]

Imagine being proud of the fact that you were able to corrupt the judicial process by throwing a national tantrum. And now that they were successful, we can expect more and more of this. We will have a two tier justice system - one set of rules for the protected classes, and another for everyone else. Can't wait to see this come back around and bite them on the ass.

ANN COULTER WOKENESS FIRS EDUCATION DEREK CHAUVIN
•Mar 29, 2021



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQdaNXix2mw

[libertybele]

Basically an admittance that reverse "Jim Crow" tactics works like a charm.

Exactly right.

[libertybele]

Derek Chauvin taken to maximum-security prison after murder conviction
https://nypost.com/2021/04/21/derek-chauvin-taken-to-minnesota-correctional-facility-oak-park-heights-maximum-security-prison/

I wish him the best. Regardless of where he's being held, they will find a way to get to him.

Yes, I believe he used excessive force and to me there is questionable and reasonable doubt if that force killed Floyd.

Certainly being found guilty on all 3 charges is excessive. At this point, I feel that his appeal may be denied.

It'll be interesting to see what his sentence is.

[DB]

I wish him the best. Regardless of where he's being held, they will find a way to get to him.

Yes, I believe he used excessive force and to me there is questionable and reasonable doubt if that force killed Floyd.

Certainly being found guilty on all 3 charges is excessive. At this point, I feel that his appeal may be denied.

It'll be interesting to see what his sentence is.

There's a very likely cause of death. Three times what is considered a lethal dose of fentanyl along with serious other health issues. There was no factual evidence provided to indicate he would have lived regardless of what the officers had done. There were no physical injuries that anyone could identify caused by the officers pertaining to any use of "excessive force". Reasonable doubt is screaming in the extreme here, which is what is required by law to convict.

This was a travesty of justice. When the laws are no longer the rules of civilization anarchy follows.

[The_Reader_David]

If the races were reversed, it would’ve been just a local story

Exactly.

I draw your attention to the piece I posted back in June. http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,406219.new.html#new 

When will Tony Timpa get justice?

[goatprairie]

The optics looked terrible. Obviously, many people looked at the knee on the neck for nine minutes or whatever and thought that had to be the cause of death.
I'm not saying it wasn't, but the maneuver was legal at the time. That meant it had been used before without causing death. They still didn't prove without a doubt that the knee caused the death.
Again, how can the jury ignore Floyd's dangerous drug level and very bad heart?
"Well" they claim "he was alive before Chauvin put his knee on his neck and dead nine minutes later."
True. That still doesn't prove the knee caused the death. In his very poor state of health and agitated state, Floyd might have died under any police detainment method. Maybe just lying on the ground handcuffed.
But given the kangaroo court atmosphere, Chauvin got a dirty deal.
I'm not saying his knee didn't have any effect of Floyd's dying, I'm just saying he got the shaft from the legal system.

[mountaineer]

Alternate juror admits she would have voted to convict because of the way Chauvin "looked," only kinda-sorta on the basis of the evidence.

‘I Was Pretty Uncomfortable’: Alternate Juror Says Derek Chauvin Stared Her Down in Court
Aaron Keller
Apr 22nd, 2021, 10:59 am

An alternate juror, who ultimately did not cast a vote to convict Derek Chauvin of murdering George Floyd, said she believes the deliberating jury arrived at the correct verdict.

“I felt he was guilty,” Lisa Christensen told CBS This Morning’s Jamie Yuccas in an exclusive interview. “I didn’t know if it was going to be guilty on all counts, I would have said guilty.”

Christensen said “the prosecution make a really good, strong argument” and that Dr. Martin Tobin, the prosecution’s pulmonary expert, “was the one that really did it for me.” ...

She said she believed that Chauvin stared her down in court — making her “uncomfortable.”

“Every time I would look up, he was right in my vision, so we locked eyes quite a few times, and I was pretty uncomfortable,” Christensen said. ...

Law and Crime

A trial lawyer comments:

Robert Barnes
@barnes_law
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15m
Basically, a juror showing how motivated reasoning really works: she highlights testimony that confirmed her guilty presumption, ignored evidence that contradicted it (to the degree of not even knowing its existence), and mind-read defendant glances as scary "stares".
11:18 AM · Apr 22, 2021