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Pfizer CEO: ‘Likely’ Third Coronavirus Shot for Fully Vaccinated People Will Be Necessary

Hannah Bleau 15 Apr 2021

Individuals who have been “fully vaccinated” with the Pfizer vaccine may need to receive a third shot in the near future, Pfizer CEO Albert Bourla stated this month.

“It is extremely important to suppress the pool of people that can be susceptible to the virus,” Bourla told CNBC’s Bertha Coombs, floating the possibility of annual vaccinations for the Chinese coronavirus.
His remarks follow Pfizer and BioNTech outlining their intention to test a third dose of the vaccine — an announcement made in February.

“We believe that the third dose will raise the antibody response 10- to 20- fold,” Bourla said at the time, likening it to the annual flu shot.

“Every year, you need to go to get your flu vaccine,” Bourla said. “It’s going to be the same with COVID. In a year, you will have to go and get your annual shot for Covid to be protected.”

Dr. Anthony Fauci has already previewed the possibility of coronavirus booster shots, explaining people “very well may need to get booster shots to keep up the level of protection.”

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Well that should bump their profits by 50%.  Have they even developed a 'third shot' yet?
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Without giving it too much thought , I wonder how much of this concern for human welfare versus executing a flawless business perpetuation model.
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Yup....talk about an income stream for Pfizer.  They won't be free either, we'll be paying for it from now on.

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Sheesh! I got vaccinated not out of fear or concern but because I was getting tired of the wife asking 'are you going to get vaccinated' and my son all but outright saying it wasn't safe for me to be around my granddaughters(2 and 4!). I get my second Moderna shot Monday but that's it never again for the level of risk involved without it. **nononono*

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It's damned if they do, damned if they don't.

If M and P prepare and test versions of their vaccines updated for currently circulating variants, they're damned as money-grubbing Big-Bogey-Pharma.

If M and P don't prepare and test versions of their vaccines updated for currently circulating variants, they're damned for failing to be prepared.
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If, as anti-Covid-vaxxers claim, https://www.poynter.org/fact-checking/2021/robert-f-kennedy-jr-said-the-covid-19-vaccine-is-the-deadliest-vaccine-ever-made-thats-not-true/ , https://gospelnewsnetwork.org/2021/11/23/covid-shots-are-the-deadliest-vaccines-in-medical-history/ , The Vaccine is deadly, where in the US have Pfizer and Moderna hidden the millions of bodies of those who died of "vaccine injury"? Is reality a Big Pharma Shill?

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It's damned if they do, damned if they don't.

If M and P prepare and test versions of their vaccines updated for currently circulating variants, they're damned as money-grubbing Big-Bogey-Pharma.

If M and P don't prepare and test versions of their vaccines updated for currently circulating variants, they're damned for failing to be prepared.
I don't mind them getting prepared. I do mind them openly admitting that the current vaccines won't end the pandemic—which to a fatigued American public that has seen this go on way too long will be a major discouragement. If they start thinking there's no way out of this mess, they're eventually going to stop cooperating.
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“Every year, you need to go to get your flu vaccine,” Bourla said. “It’s going to be the same with COVID. In a year, you will have to go and get your annual shot for Covid to be protected.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but don't they adjust or modify the formulation of flu shots each year because of the inevitable variants? Will they do the same with subsequent Covid vaccines? Why shouldn't future vaccines cover both Covid and whichever form of flu we're dealing with (if that's possible)?

I've never received a flu shot and am very unlikely to get the Covid shot, so I really don't pay much attention to such matters.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but don't they adjust or modify the formulation of flu shots each year because of the inevitable variants? Will they do the same with subsequent Covid vaccines? Why shouldn't future vaccines cover both Covid and whichever form of flu we're dealing with (if that's possible)?
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My understanding is that months before "flu season" actually starts health officials check out which of known variants seem likely to be in circulation come flu season. Then the relevant pharmaceuticals companies start the several months long process of producing the existing vaccine for that variant. If the health officials' observation based guesstimate is correct then the right vaccine has been produced and received. If not, then a worse than usual flu season.

With Covid, while a new mRNA vaccine for a range of variants (old and newly discovered) could be designed quickly and on approval mass-produced quickly, the test process, from Phase 1 through Phase 3 would still be something like at least 8 or 9 months. The ideal would be a vaccine that covers so many SARS-CoV-2 characteristics that a virus unaffected by the vaccine would not be a corona virus. How realistic that hypothetical ideal is I don't know.
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If, as anti-Covid-vaxxers claim, https://www.poynter.org/fact-checking/2021/robert-f-kennedy-jr-said-the-covid-19-vaccine-is-the-deadliest-vaccine-ever-made-thats-not-true/ , https://gospelnewsnetwork.org/2021/11/23/covid-shots-are-the-deadliest-vaccines-in-medical-history/ , The Vaccine is deadly, where in the US have Pfizer and Moderna hidden the millions of bodies of those who died of "vaccine injury"? Is reality a Big Pharma Shill?

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Well that should bump their profits by 50%.  Have they even developed a 'third shot' yet?

Found this comment on one of my Will Johnson video's.  What do you think?  Sounds plausible. Same as resistant bacteria now, to antibiotics.  Virus's keep mutating. 
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Vaccines are causing the variants .. high vaccine areas are increasing the variants

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I had COVID, and I believe my wife and I had it twice actually.  It took me down for a week each time.  But it is not worth the risk of using a vaccine totally untested.  And the threat is not those that die upon receiving the vaccine, the threat according to a number of doctors is years 2 to 20 after receiving the vaccine.  Credible physicians are claiming when the next virus comes along, this vaccine will cause auto immune responses in those that had the vaccine.  If that is the case, perhaps millions will die that got the vaccine.

I do not care what the corrupt FDA, pharma, and anyone else says, for 50 years, I have believed vaccines cause health issues, cause autism, and who knows what else.  Why should I trust these people?  I don't.  This is one area I will control my future, and not the stinking government. 

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I had COVID, and I believe my wife and I had it twice actually.  It took me down for a week each time.  But it is not worth the risk of using a vaccine totally untested.  And the threat is not those that die upon receiving the vaccine, the threat according to a number of doctors is years 2 to 20 after receiving the vaccine.  Credible physicians are claiming when the next virus comes along, this vaccine will cause auto immune responses in those that had the vaccine.  If that is the case, perhaps millions will die that got the vaccine.

I do not care what the corrupt FDA, pharma, and anyone else says, for 50 years, I have believed vaccines cause health issues, cause autism, and who knows what else.  Why should I trust these people?  I don't.  This is one area I will control my future, and not the stinking government.

Ditto.
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...using a vaccine totally untested...

Why spread such lies???
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...  But it is not worth the risk of using a vaccine totally untested.  ...

From http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,412701.0.html :

June 10, 2020 - Janssen Pharmaceutical accelerating its Phase I/IIa trial of its COVID-19 vaccine to the second half of July; https://www.jnj.com/johnson-johnson-announces-acceleration-of-its-covid-19-vaccine-candidate-phase-1-2a-clinical-trial-to-begin-in-second-half-of-july

July 30, 2020 - Janssen Research (Johnson & Johnson) COVID-19 vaccine began Phase I/IIa clinical trial in the US and Belgium; https://www.jnj.com/single-dose-of-johnson-johnson-covid-19-vaccine-candidate-demonstrates-robust-protection-in-pre-clinical-studies

September 23, 2020 - Johnson & Johnson announced the start of its Phase III trial for its COVID-19 vaccine candidate developed by its Janssen Pharmaceutical Companies; the trial will enroll up to 60,000 volunteers across three continents; https://www.jnj.com/johnson-johnson-initiates-pivotal-global-phase-3-clinical-trial-of-janssens-covid-19-vaccine-candidate ; https://www.janssen.com/johnson-johnson-initiates-pivotal-global-phase-3-clinical-trial-janssens-covid-19-vaccine-candidate


March 16, 2020 - Phase I testing begins of Moderna's experimental coronavirus vaccine; at Kaiser Permanente Washington Health Research Institute, https://www.kpwashingtonresearch.org/news-and-events/recent-news/news-2020/kaiser-permanente-launches-coronavirus-vaccine-study-seattle , https://www.hhs.gov/about/news/2020/03/16/hhs-secretary-azar-statement-on-launch-of-phase-1-covid-19-vaccine-trial.html , https://www.nih.gov/news-events/news-releases/nih-clinical-trial-investigational-vaccine-covid-19-begins

March 27, 2020 - Emory University began enrolling participants for a Phase I clinical trial of Moderna's potential coronavirus vaccine; https://news.emory.edu/stories/2020/03/coronavirus_vteu_modernastart/index.html

May 29, 2020 - Moderna announces first participants dosed in Phase II study of coronavirus vaccine; https://investors.modernatx.com/news-releases/news-release-details/moderna-announces-first-participants-each-age-cohort-dosed-phase

June 11, 2020 - Enrollment of the younger adults group of Moderna's Phase II trial was completed; https://investors.modernatx.com/news-releases/news-release-details/moderna-advances-late-stage-development-its-vaccine-mrna-1273

July 8, 2020 - Enrollment of the older adults group of Moderna's Phase II trial was completed; https://investors.modernatx.com/news-releases/news-release-details/moderna-completes-enrollment-phase-2-study-its-mrna-vaccine

July 27, 2020 - Moderna announced announced that the Phase III study of its COVID-19 vaccine has begun dosing participants; the randomized, placebo-controlled trial will include some 30,000 US participants; https://investors.modernatx.com/news-releases/news-release-details/moderna-announces-phase-3-cove-study-mrna-vaccine-against-covid

November 16, 2020 - Moderna announced that the independent, NIH-appointed Data Safety Monitoring Board for the Phase 3 study of its vaccine candidate against COVID-19 has informed Moderna that the trial has met the statistical criteria in the study protocol for efficacy, with a vaccine efficacy of 94.5%; https://investors.modernatx.com/news-releases/news-release-details/modernas-covid-19-vaccine-candidate-meets-its-primary-efficacy

November 30, 2020 - Moderna announced that the primary efficacy analysis of the Phase 3 study of its Covid-19 vaccine confirms the high efficacy of 94.1% of the first interim analysis; Moderna is submitting for an EUA with the FDA and apply for Conditional Marketing Authorization with the European Medicines Agency; https://investors.modernatx.com/news-releases/news-release-details/moderna-announces-primary-efficacy-analysis-phase-3-cove-study


April 22, 2020 - Pfizer and BioNTech announced approval to begin Phase I/II trial of BioNTech’s COVID-19 vaccines in Germany; https://www.pfizer.com/news/press-release/press-release-detail/biontech_and_pfizer_announce_regulatory_approval_from_german_authority_paul_ehrlich_institut_to_commence_first_clinical_trial_of_covid_19_vaccine_candidates

April 29, 2020 - Pfizer and BioNTech announced that the first cohort of BioNTech’s Phase I/II clinical trial has been dosed; https://www.pfizer.com/news/press-release/press-release-detail/biontech-and-pfizer-announce-completion-dosing-first-cohort

May 5, 2020 - Pfizer and BioNTech announced that the first participants have been dosed in the US in the Phase I/II clinical trial; https://www.pfizer.com/news/press-release/press-release-detail/pfizer_and_biontech_dose_first_participants_in_the_u_s_as_part_of_global_covid_19_mrna_vaccine_development_program

July 27, 2020 - Pfizer and BioNTech announced the start of a global Phase II/III clinical study of its COVID-19 vaccine, which will include up to 30,000 participants; https://www.pfizer.com/news/press-release/press-release-detail/pfizer-and-biontech-choose-lead-mrna-vaccine-candidate-0

August 12, 2020 - Pfizer and BioNTech announced that they have submitted an amended protocol to the FDA to expand the enrollment of their Phase III COVID-19 vaccine trial to up to approximately 44,000 participants, allowing for the enrollment of new populations; the company expects to reach its initial target of up to 30,000 participants next week; https://www.pfizer.com/news/press-release/press-release-detail/pfizer-and-biontech-propose-expansion-pivotal-covid-19

November 9, 2020 -  Pfizer and BioNTech announced their mRNA-based SARS-CoV-2 vaccine has demonstrated evidence of efficacy against COVID-19; the first interim efficacy analysis conducted by an external, independent Data Monitoring Committee concluded that the vaccine efficacy rate was above 90% at 7 days after the second dose; https://www.pfizer.com/news/press-release/press-release-detail/pfizer-and-biontech-announce-vaccine-candidate-against

November 18, 2020 - Pfizer and BioNTech announced that, after conducting the final efficacy analysis in their ongoing Phase 3 study, their COVID-19 vaccine candidate met all of the study’s primary efficacy endpoints; analysis of the data indicates a vaccine efficacy rate of 95% (p<0.0001) in participants without prior SARS-CoV-2 infection;  the companies also announced that the safety milestone required by the FDA for Emergency Use Authorization (EUA) has been achieved; Pfizer and BioNTech plan to submit a request within days for an EUA; https://www.pfizer.com/news/press-release/press-release-detail/pfizer-and-biontech-conclude-phase-3-study-covid-19-vaccine


The thread linked above has similar milestone dates for the AstraZeneca and Novavax vaccines (I stopped updating that thread in January), but I didn't include them because neither have submitted a request to the FDA for Emergency Use Authorization, and thus are not approved for use in the US. The bottom line from all the milestones listed above is that the three vaccines approved for use in the US have been fully tested.
If, as anti-Covid-vaxxers claim, https://www.poynter.org/fact-checking/2021/robert-f-kennedy-jr-said-the-covid-19-vaccine-is-the-deadliest-vaccine-ever-made-thats-not-true/ , https://gospelnewsnetwork.org/2021/11/23/covid-shots-are-the-deadliest-vaccines-in-medical-history/ , The Vaccine is deadly, where in the US have Pfizer and Moderna hidden the millions of bodies of those who died of "vaccine injury"? Is reality a Big Pharma Shill?

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Exactly.  The vaccine was tested (as was thalidomide back in the 50s).  Never mind that a lot of the test animals died.  Fauci says it's safe.  That's all that matters.  His track record has been stellar.
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Well that should bump their profits by 50%.  Have they even developed a 'third shot' yet?


It will NEVER end as this virus mutates!  a 'cold virus'. 

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Yes, it is only about money!

I had COVID, and I believe my wife and I had it twice actually.  It took me down for a week each time.  But it is not worth the risk of using a vaccine totally untested.  And the threat is not those that die upon receiving the vaccine, the threat according to a number of doctors is years 2 to 20 after receiving the vaccine.  Credible physicians are claiming when the next virus comes along, this vaccine will cause auto immune responses in those that had the vaccine.  If that is the case, perhaps millions will die that got the vaccine.

I do not care what the corrupt FDA, pharma, and anyone else says, for 50 years, I have believed vaccines cause health issues, cause autism, and who knows what else.  Why should I trust these people?  I don't.  This is one area I will control my future, and not the stinking government.


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Exactly.  The vaccine was tested (as was thalidomide back in the 50s).  Never mind that a lot of the test animals died.  Fauci says it's safe.  That's all that matters.  His track record has been stellar.

Plenty of valid reasons not to get this or any vaccine, including "I don't want it".

I hate to see The Briefing Room used to spread lies about a something saving lives.
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I took the Pfizer vaccine on Saturday.  Sunday I was feverish and achy, with a sore arm.  Monday I was weak, but better.  Today I am almost back to baseline.  I will go ahead and take the second dose in three weeks, in spite of the fact that the side effects are likely going to be worse.  Why?

For the same reason that I take a flu shot every season, that my parents inoculated me from Polio, and that I took both pneumonia shots after I turned age 65.  I consider myself very fortunate to be alive at a time when medical science is discovering so much, and making such strides.  I love life and I want to avail myself of every opportunity to extend my life.

Yes, we have imperfect and corrupt systems.  But to believe they are wholly corrupt is to ignore the reality of what has been accomplished over the past few generations.  If medical science cannot be trusted, then we would have made no progress on AIDS, heart disease, cancer and so forth.  My father died of a heart attack at age 61.  I have already outlived him by seven years thanks to statin drugs and blood pressure medications.

Two years ago i had cataract surgery and today my vision is better than at any time in my life.  No generation before me has enjoyed this benefit in old age.  Six years ago my wife died of ovarian cancer that she may well have survived today because of the new immunotherapy treatments available.

If you don't want to take the vaccine, that's fine.  I understand your point of view and fully support your right not to take it.

As for me, at 68 I figure I am on borrowed time anyway.  Doc, give me whatever you got that you think might extend my life and I will take my chances.

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@massadvj - As always, thank you for your thoughtful post.  Yours is a compelling rationale in favor of receiving the vaccinations.  I too have received both courses of the Pfizer version and had almost no side effects.  Doing so was my own personal calculus in the benefits of the vaccine.  Others may see it differently but I would hope the outspoken who are against it would refrain from making irrational statements which are so common. 

Strangely, I have encountered anti-vaccination people outside this forum who have little problem injecting, inhaling or ingesting other questionable substances.  Seems weird. 
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@massadvj - As always, thank you for your thoughtful post.  Yours is a compelling rationale in favor of receiving the vaccinations.  I too have received both courses of the Pfizer version and had almost no side effects.  Doing so was my own personal calculus in the benefits of the vaccine.  Others may see it differently but I would hope the outspoken who are against it would refrain from making irrational statements which are so common. 

Strangely, I have encountered anti-vaccination people outside this forum who have little problem injecting, inhaling or ingesting other questionable substances.  Seems weird.

Nice to see you, Lando. We go back a long way, you and I. With many battle scars to prove it. Thanks for sharing your thoughts.

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Nice to see you, Lando. We go back a long way, you and I. With many battle scars to prove it. Thanks for sharing your thoughts.

Indeed so, V.  Glad you are well.
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@massadvj - As always, thank you for your thoughtful post.  Yours is a compelling rationale in favor of receiving the vaccinations.  I too have received both courses of the Pfizer version and had almost no side effects.  Doing so was my own personal calculus in the benefits of the vaccine.  Others may see it differently but I would hope the outspoken who are against it would refrain from making irrational statements which are so common. 

Strangely, I have encountered anti-vaccination people outside this forum who have little problem injecting, inhaling or ingesting other questionable substances.  Seems weird.



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I am almost 73 and have chosen not to take any of these vaccines (I just can't get my head wrapped around the logic of getting immunized for something with a 99+% recovery rate) but have no problem at all with anyone making a different choice.  I hope it works out well for everybody regardless of their choices. 
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