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Re: Derek Chauvin Trial
« Reply #125 on: April 07, 2021, 05:00:30 pm »
Quote from: skeeter on April 07, 2021, 04:55:36 pm
And, unlike George Floyd, no one will notice.

BLM donchya know.

Oh, they'll notice.   There will be a nationwide celebratory orgy of violence and property destruction when it's announced by a gleeful press.
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Re: Derek Chauvin Trial
« Reply #126 on: April 07, 2021, 05:02:36 pm »
Quote from: LMAO on April 07, 2021, 02:34:40 am
The state has to prove Chauvin's actions caused the death and so far, they haven't come close

Juries aren't chomping at the bit to put cops in prison. Don't confuse juries with the mob and media

No. Not in the case of Third-degree murder which is only one of the charges against him.

It requires prosecutors to prove that someone caused the death of another "by perpetrating an act eminently dangerous to others and evincing a depraved mind, without regard for human life." Legal experts note that the definition of "depraved mind" is murky— as is the legal line between "depraved mind" and the "culpable negligence" standard for manslaughter.

The prosecution has shown that kneeling on Floyd's neck was indeed an act eminently dangerous ... I think they have also proven that excessive force was used which could be seen as w/o regard for human life. Keep in mind that Floyd was handcuffed before  Chauvin knelt on his neck. He said he couldn't breathe (witnesses/tapes) ... Chauvin didn't let up.

This is the charge that the judge had eliminated and then decided to reinstate.  I think that this is what the prosecution is at the very least hoping to prove.  It will bring a sentence of up to 10 years, it satisfies the mob who has already convicted him and of course the mob will riot anyways stating that the charges weren't enough.

As I have stated in an earlier post;  I believe Chauvin will be convicted and will be killed in prison almost as soon as he arrives.  He is a dead man walking. 

https://www.startribune.com/derek-chauvin-charges-trial-george-floyd-murder-manslaughter-police-minneapolis-minnesota/600030691/
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Re: Derek Chauvin Trial
« Reply #127 on: April 07, 2021, 05:15:27 pm »
Quote from: libertybele on April 07, 2021, 05:02:36 pm
No. Not in the case of Third-degree murder which is only one of the charges against him.

It requires prosecutors to prove that someone caused the death of another "by perpetrating an act eminently dangerous to others and evincing a depraved mind, without regard for human life." Legal experts note that the definition of "depraved mind" is murky— as is the legal line between "depraved mind" and the "culpable negligence" standard for manslaughter.

The prosecution has shown that kneeling on Floyd's neck was indeed an act eminently dangerous ... I think they have also proven that excessive force was used which could be seen as w/o regard for human life. Keep in mind that Floyd was handcuffed before  Chauvin knelt on his neck. He said he couldn't breathe (witnesses/tapes) ... Chauvin didn't let up.

This is the charge that the judge had eliminated and then decided to reinstate.  I think that this is what the prosecution is at the very least hoping to prove.  It will bring a sentence of up to 10 years, it satisfies the mob who has already convicted him and of course the mob will riot anyways stating that the charges weren't enough.

As I have stated in an earlier post;  I believe Chauvin will be convicted and will be killed in prison almost as soon as he arrives.  He is a dead man walking. 

https://www.startribune.com/derek-chauvin-charges-trial-george-floyd-murder-manslaughter-police-minneapolis-minnesota/600030691/

No. They still have to prove that Chauvin’s knee lead to the death of George Floyd. Read the Hennepin County coroner report. It’s gonna be pretty hard to convince a jury of that when a guy has three times the lethal amount of fentanyl plus other drugs in his system

 I have taken a very big interest in this case and it has read a lot about it because we destroy the country based on something that’s turning out not to be true. Any questions I have a sister who is an attorney in Florida she thinks this cop is going to get off completely. The state still has not been able to show convincingly that the cops knee cause his death.

Be careful what you’re reading in the media. They’re only showing the prosecutions case and not the cross examination by the defense. At some point, the defense will have its chance and the cop will have his chance to give his side of the story
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Re: Derek Chauvin Trial
« Reply #128 on: April 07, 2021, 05:18:30 pm »
Quote from: BassWrangler on April 07, 2021, 04:36:10 pm
On the merits of the case presented by the prosecution and defense, at least what I've seen so far, Chauvin should be acquitted. However, the jury is heavily stacked with people who I believe will not be inclined towards impartiality. There will also be tremendous pressure on jurors to go along with what the mob wants. The media is doing everything it can to ignore a strong case from the defense. Chauvin lost the moment the judge refused a change of venue.


 The only reason that this case went to trial was because Keith Ellison is the attorney general Minnesota. With a more sane attorney general, the cops would’ve been suspended pending investigation and it would’ve been ruled of that Floyd died due to the drugs in his system
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Re: Derek Chauvin Trial
« Reply #129 on: April 07, 2021, 05:21:02 pm »
Quote from: LMAO on April 07, 2021, 05:15:27 pm
No. They still have to prove that Chauvin’s knee lead to the death of George Floyd. Read the Hennepin County coroner report. It’s gonna be pretty hard to convince a jury of that when a guy has three times the lethal amount of fentanyl plus other drugs in his system

 I have taken a very big interest in this case and it has read a lot about it because we destroy the country based on something that’s turning out not to be true. Any questions I have a sister who is an attorney in Florida she thinks this cop is going to get off completely. The state still has not been able to show convincingly that the cops knee cause his death.

Be careful what you’re reading in the media. They’re only showing the prosecutions case and not the cross examination by the defense. At some point, the defense will have its chance and the cop will have his chance to give his side of the story

This is a normal sequence with a trial.  The press declared they had George Zimmerman dead to rights at this point of the Persecutor's presentation, and the "hanging Judge" agreed.  Her best efforts led to an eventual acquittal.

When I read the daily blog at Legal Insurrection, I can see what the Defense is doing in Cross-ex and they are proving the Persecution's witnesses are doing more for the defense than they are doing for themselves. 
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« Reply #130 on: April 07, 2021, 05:23:41 pm »
 All of  these radicalized attorney generals and district attorneys need to be exposed and called out or we will never be able to control crime in this country
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Re: Derek Chauvin Trial
« Reply #131 on: April 07, 2021, 05:33:36 pm »
Quote from: Cyber Liberty on April 07, 2021, 05:21:02 pm
This is a normal sequence with a trial.  The press declared they had George Zimmerman dead to rights at this point of the Persecutor's presentation, and the "hanging Judge" agreed.  Her best efforts led to an eventual acquittal.

When I read the daily blog at Legal Insurrection, I can see what the Defense is doing in Cross-ex and they are proving the Persecution's witnesses are doing more for the defense than they are doing for themselves.

 In fact, one of the states witnesses is going to be called back by the defense as one of their own

 Before this trial started, I predicted that the state, lacking forensics and facts,  Will seek the emotional arguments. Predicted it spot on

I believe that any cop who chooses to work in an inner-city, knowing what we all know, are on their own going forward
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« Reply #132 on: April 07, 2021, 05:40:37 pm »
Keep in mind, defense attorneys are not stupid. There are very well aware that Minnesota has a weak case  and they’re also aware that there’s a mob demanding a conviction regardless of the facts
 and that’s  on the jurors minds

Watch and listen, when the trial wraps up, what the defense attorneys closing arguments will be to the jury. Expect to hear the term “mob justice”
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« Reply #133 on: April 07, 2021, 05:51:49 pm »
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IMHO he is already GUILTY until they can prove him innocent, which isn't going to happen. The MSM has already set things in motion, that should he be found innocent, a major, major race war would erupt.
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« Reply #134 on: April 07, 2021, 06:07:55 pm »
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Then bring it.  I've long had a theory about this:  Today black folks make up about 13-14% of the total US population.  After a "race war" that will be closer to 10%.  Rioters will succeed where Margaret Sanger failed.
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Re: Derek Chauvin Trial
« Reply #135 on: April 07, 2021, 07:04:24 pm »
Quote from: Cyber Liberty on April 07, 2021, 06:07:55 pm
Then bring it.  I've long had a theory about this:  Today black folks make up about 13-14% of the total US population.  After a "race war" that will be closer to 10%.  Rioters will succeed where Margaret Sanger failed.
Once the general public has had enough the 'race war' won't last very long - as is always the case with bullies when opposition is encountered the most militant among the racialists will suddenly find other things to concern themselves with and streets will suddenly be extraordinarily peaceful.
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« Reply #136 on: April 07, 2021, 07:34:20 pm »
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Then bring it.  I've long had a theory about this:  Today black folks make up about 13-14% of the total US population.  After a "race war" that will be closer to 10%.  Rioters will succeed where Margaret Sanger failed.

Then the leftists win all the way around with no hope for recovery of our Republic.  They have been pushing for a race war for a long time to permanently divide this country.  Think of what they have allowed; LBJ's Great Society, affirmative action, the rise and terror of Antifa, BLM, etc., and from my viewpoint, the Blacks are winning.                                                 

You think that they won't win the race war?  Which side do you think the left is on?  Certainly not on the side of the Whites, Christians, nor conservatives.  Black empowerment zones have been emerging for quite sometime.   

Then they will empower all those ILLEGALS and Hispanics.

Whites will be outnumbered.

The ONLY way to remedy this situation, and I've stated it several times is for BLACKS AND WHITES to come together to defeat this blatant overreach of our corrupt government. Allowing the leftists to divide us will enable them to continue to conquer us.
 
 
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« Reply #137 on: April 07, 2021, 08:04:38 pm »
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Then bring it.  I've long had a theory about this:  Today black folks make up about 13-14% of the total US population.  After a "race war" that will be closer to 10%.  Rioters will succeed where Margaret Sanger failed.

 It pains me to say that I’m getting to that point also

Candace Owens was right. The inner-city black community is the only culture that embraces criminality
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« Reply #138 on: April 07, 2021, 08:06:24 pm »
Quote from: libertybele on April 07, 2021, 07:34:20 pm
Then the leftists win all the way around with no hope for recovery of our Republic.  They have been pushing for a race war for a long time to permanently divide this country.  Think of what they have allowed; LBJ's Great Society, affirmative action, the rise and terror of Antifa, BLM, etc., and from my viewpoint, the Blacks are winning.                                                 

You think that they won't win the race war?  Which side do you think the left is on?  Certainly not on the side of the Whites, Christians, nor conservatives.  Black empowerment zones have been emerging for quite sometime.   

Then they will empower all those ILLEGALS and Hispanics.

Whites will be outnumbered.

The ONLY way to remedy this situation, and I've stated it several times is for BLACKS AND WHITES to come together to defeat this blatant overreach of our corrupt government. Allowing the leftists to divide us will enable them to continue to conquer us.

Your reasoning has an important flaw:  Hispanics will never fight on the side of blacks.  When there are "race riots" in Los Angeles, it's always the browns vs the blacks while everybody else gets out of Dodge.  Yes, the Latinos will pick a side, but it's not going to be the one you think.  And the Asians will also choose sides accordingly. 

A "race war" would be blacks vs. everybody else, and that's how I arrived at my theory about relative population following such a battle royale.
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Re: Derek Chauvin Trial
« Reply #139 on: April 07, 2021, 08:08:28 pm »
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It pains me to say that I’m getting to that point also

Candace Owens was right. The inner-city black community is the only culture that embraces criminality

The small-town black folks I know here would never engage, because they know better than the urban yoots the rationale is bullshit.  They don't get by on welfare because there isn't much of that around...they get by the way the rest of us do.  Work.
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« Reply #140 on: April 07, 2021, 08:47:49 pm »
Quote from: Cyber Liberty on April 07, 2021, 08:06:24 pm
Your reasoning has an important flaw:  Hispanics will never fight on the side of blacks.  When there are "race riots" in Los Angeles, it's always the browns vs the blacks while everybody else gets out of Dodge.  Yes, the Latinos will pick a side, but it's not going to be the one you think.  And the Asians will also choose sides accordingly. 

A "race war" would be blacks vs. everybody else, and that's how I arrived at my theory about relative population following such a battle royale.

Ok.  I still believe in order to win the on going battle with our govt's globalist agenda, we have to stand united.  I just don't see any other way to win at this.  Time for us to all realize that it truly isn't black v. white, but a gov't who pitted black against white.                                       The gov't is the enemy of the state.
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« Reply #141 on: April 07, 2021, 09:08:38 pm »
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The small-town black folks I know here would never engage, because they know better than the urban yoots the rationale is bullshit.  They don't get by on welfare because there isn't much of that around...they get by the way the rest of us do.  Work.

All the problems with Black people in this country is not universal. I have known a few Black people raised in suburban and urban areas and they are nothing like the inner-city Black people. Even some who come from places like the Caribbean or Africa are not like those raised in the inner-city. It’s like there’s a sub group of a group that’s alien
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« Reply #142 on: April 07, 2021, 09:17:29 pm »
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All the problems with Black people in this country is not universal. I have known a few Black people raised in suburban and urban areas and they are nothing like the inner-city Black people. Even some who come from places like the Caribbean or Africa are not like those raised in the inner-city. It’s like there’s a sub group of a group that’s alien

Some of the Blacks around here in the inner-city work to make a living, and they respond with "yes m'aam and no m'aam.  Southern Blacks for the most part are a very hospitable group around here and recognize the gov't role in the fiasco that we all face.  As a community they are also plagued with high crime and drug abuse.
 
I still stand by the premise that we ALL need to come together and recognize that  gov't created this race war and racial disparity.  That is the only way we're going to win this one.

They are continuing to divide us for a reason.  Continued division will only enable them further.

Meanwhile homelessness and joblessness around here isn't just limited to the inner city.  It is spreading. They planned the COVID plague well.
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« Reply #143 on: April 07, 2021, 09:26:19 pm »
Quote from: libertybele on April 07, 2021, 08:47:49 pm
Ok.  I still believe in order to win the on going battle with our govt's globalist agenda, we have to stand united.  I just don't see any other way to win at this.  Time for us to all realize that it truly isn't black v. white, but a gov't who pitted black against white.                                       The gov't is the enemy of the state.

That is a different argument, with which I agree....
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« Reply #144 on: April 08, 2021, 12:12:10 am »
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How many times have you seen reported that Derek Chauvin is 5’9 and 140 lbs? That he was the LARGEST officer on the scene. And that Floyd was 6’4 and 230 lbs? And Floyd had 3 times the legal limit of fentanyl in his system? I found out by WATCHING THE TRIAL. Never saw it in MSM.

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« Reply #145 on: April 08, 2021, 12:32:40 am »
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Given the evidence presented so far at the Floyd trial, it isn't fair for the judge to complete the trial to a jury verdict. Given the obviousness of the outcome, the jury should not be asked to risk their lives to vote their conscience.


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« Reply #146 on: April 08, 2021, 12:35:01 am »
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The prosecution's expert in the Derek Chauvin/George Floyd trial just agreed that some things that are "awful" might still be "lawful." That's the essence of the defense but the answer was elicited -- not on purpose -- by the prosecutor.


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Re: Derek Chauvin Trial
« Reply #149 on: April 08, 2021, 01:15:54 am »
Quote from: Right_in_Virginia on April 08, 2021, 12:39:46 am
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@Right_in_Virginia I think this is posted on the wrong thread
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