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Re: Derek Chauvin Trial
« Reply #200 on: April 10, 2021, 03:49:04 pm »

Defense attorney Eric Nelson cross-examined Thomas, a witness for the prosecution, after she had testified that the “primary mechanism of death” in the case was “asphyxia or low oxygen.”

Again, has any evidence been introduced that shows Floyd's breathing was short and rapid as opposed to being prolonged and weak?
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Re: Derek Chauvin Trial
« Reply #201 on: April 10, 2021, 04:44:40 pm »
I don’t think the jury is chomping at the bit to convict the cop. I think they’re starting to catch on that the state’s case  falling apart. But I also believe that it’s in the back of their minds the threats, the riots that will follow an acquittal

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I honestly believe,and worry about,any black jurors getting death threats and having to move and change identities if they refuse to convict.

The bottom line is not the death of a black career thug. It is that there are millions of dollars to be had FOR FREE,IF the jury will just convict.

And make no mistake about it,the various rev-runds,Civil Wrongs Advocates,and relatives ALREADY see those millions as THEIR money,and some WILL be "seeking revenge".

And the media will not have one negative word to say about black on black crime,or the injustice of threatening/attacking jurors for doing their civil duty.

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But I find it hard to believe that the defense attorney is not also aware of this and the psychological pressure on the jury. He’ll not only stress how the case against Chauvin by the prosecution is extraordinarily weak, but warn them about giving into mob justice.

Which they will hear as a suggestion.


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Think about all the lies that we’ve been told last summer that ended up destroying cities and may have permanently damaged this country. The left is desperate to paint this country as systemically racist so  anything and everything  will  be clamped on like a steel trap as long as it supports their narrative and even if it doesn’t


IMNSHO,what the powers behind these marches,demonstrations,and threats dream of is an actual revolution
that will give Biden's handlers the excuse they need to declare a State of Martial Law exists,and to suspend the Bill of Rights for "The Duration of the Emergency".

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Re: Derek Chauvin Trial
« Reply #202 on: April 10, 2021, 04:47:02 pm »
Heroin and meth I can understand.  But not fentanyl and meth.

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Re: Derek Chauvin Trial
« Reply #203 on: April 12, 2021, 03:36:06 pm »
So, the question of the day:  How will the Prosecution sabotage their own case today?  :tongue2:
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Re: Derek Chauvin Trial
« Reply #204 on: April 12, 2021, 05:36:53 pm »
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BREAKING: Attorney reveals one Derek Chauvin juror is a resident of Brooklyn Center hit by riots and looting last night. Asks court to re-question jurors about new incident.

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BREAKING: Judge denies motion to sequester jury and re-question them about Brooklyn Center riots

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Re: Derek Chauvin Trial
« Reply #205 on: April 12, 2021, 06:06:35 pm »
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BREAKING: Judge denies motion to sequester jury and re-question them about Brooklyn Center riots

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What a clown show this is. Hard to imagine this guy having any more justification to appeal if it doesn't go his way.

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Re: Derek Chauvin Trial
« Reply #206 on: April 12, 2021, 06:26:40 pm »
What a clown show this is. Hard to imagine this guy having any more justification to appeal if it doesn't go his way.


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I think the problem is the insanity has now taken hold so deeply the courts just don't know how to handle "crimes" that are so obviously politically based.

After all,crimes are SUPPOSED to be committed by individuals against other individuals,corporations,or "the state",and they are supposed to be ACTUAL crimes. Things that are real you can point to and show in court.
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Re: Derek Chauvin Trial
« Reply #207 on: April 12, 2021, 07:13:25 pm »
What a clown show this is. Hard to imagine this guy having any more justification to appeal if it doesn't go his way.

You really think an appeal wouldn't be denied by the leftist Judiciary in Madistan?
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Re: Derek Chauvin Trial
« Reply #208 on: April 12, 2021, 10:01:56 pm »
 LIVE: Chauvin Trial Day 11 – Has State Eliminated Reasonable Doubt As Case Nears End?

Reasonable Doubt Before Defense Even Begins Is Bad For Conviction
Posted by Andrew Branca Monday, April 12, 2021 at 09:30am

As we enter the 11th full day of trial in this case, the state is rapidly approaching the end of its presentation for its case in chief. We are, therefore, nearing a major inflection point for this trial.

For those who may be unfamiliar with the criminal trial process, after opening statements by both sides, the state takes the first turn in presenting the jury with its case in chief, meaning its entire comprehensive argument to meet its burden to remove all reasonable doubt on the criminal charges brought against Chauvin.

These charges include second-degree murder (really, felony murder), third-degree murder (really, reckless homicide), manslaughter, and third-degree felony assault (the predicate for the felony murder charge). A more detailed overview of these criminal charges is discussed in our previous commentary and analysis, here:  Chauvin Pre-Trial Day 1: 3d Degree Murder Throws Wrench Into Jury Selection Process.

After the state has finished presenting all the witnesses and evidence that they believe prove the crimes charged beyond a reasonable doubt, they rest their case, and it becomes the turn of the defense to present witnesses and evidence that they believe create a reasonable doubt.

The key is that the point at which the state rests its case is normally the high point of the prosecution’s narrative of guilt, the point at which reasonable doubt has been eliminated to the greatest degree likely to be achieved at any point in the trial.  From here on the narrative presented to the jury is primarily the narrative of the defense, which is the narrative that drives an increase, not decrease, in reasonable doubt—and reasonable doubt is the key to acquittal.

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Re: Derek Chauvin Trial
« Reply #209 on: April 12, 2021, 11:56:16 pm »

@BassWrangler

I think the problem is the insanity has now taken hold so deeply the courts just don't know how to handle "crimes" that are so obviously politically based.

After all,crimes are SUPPOSED to be committed by individuals against other individuals,corporations,or "the state",and they are supposed to be ACTUAL crimes. Things that are real you can point to and show in court.

You're right, @sneakypete . We've arrived at a place where doing the right thing requires a courage that our judiciary did not have.

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Re: Derek Chauvin Trial
« Reply #210 on: April 13, 2021, 02:36:04 am »
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#ChauvinTrial Day 11 Update – State’s Desperate Moves Reveal Vulnerabilities In Prosecution of Chauvin

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Chauvin Trial Day 11 Update – State’s Desperate Moves Reveal Vulnerabilities In Prosecution of...
Prosecutor Schlieter: “Authorized use of force a complete defense to all charges.”
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Re: Derek Chauvin Trial
« Reply #211 on: April 13, 2021, 02:39:07 am »
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15 attorneys. Too many cooks in the kitchen. Ellison screwed up bad

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This feels like an incredibly disorganized prosecution

You would think that the prosecution experts would have resolved their differences and come to a consensus on what force was excessive

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Re: Derek Chauvin Trial
« Reply #212 on: April 13, 2021, 03:07:06 am »
The expert medical conclusion of the prosecution's entire case rests on whether or not Floyd's breathing was short and rapid.  As far as I can tell, the state of his breathing while he was on the ground was never stated by anyone.  Yet the speculation of their experts completely relies on it being short and rapid.

If the defense can show Floyd's breathing was weak and slow, then the entire medical testimony of the prosecution is trashed.
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Re: Derek Chauvin Trial
« Reply #213 on: April 13, 2021, 03:32:15 pm »
Prosecution rests case in Derek Chauvin trial
By Mychael Schnell - 04/13/21 11:16 AM EDT

Over the course of 11 days, the prosecution called 38 witnesses to testify, including police officers, bystanders, paramedics, and use-of-force experts, according to a tally from USA Today. The jury also watched footage captured by bystanders, surveillance and body cameras, which illustrated the key moments around Floyd’s arrest.

The defense began their case on Tuesday, with attorney Eric Nelson first calling former Minneapolis Police Officer Scott Creighton, who arrested Floyd in a separate incident in May 2019, to the stand.

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Re: Derek Chauvin Trial
« Reply #214 on: April 13, 2021, 03:46:31 pm »
That's all they got?  Even the cheapest shit house lawyer knows there isn't enough evidence for Murder. 

OTOH, we all know that Chauvin is only guilty of excessive force, but he will be the sacrficial lamb to the BLM Idol. This really sucks.
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« Reply #215 on: April 13, 2021, 05:07:39 pm »
Is there a reason the Chauvin trial is no longer being carried live by the press?
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Re: Derek Chauvin Trial
« Reply #216 on: April 13, 2021, 05:11:44 pm »
Is there a reason the Chauvin trial is no longer being carried live by the press?

Good question.  My guess, is that they don't want an obvious repeat of 1692 type justice on air.
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« Reply #217 on: April 13, 2021, 05:18:59 pm »
Here, I found a video of the trial coverage:


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Re: Derek Chauvin Trial
« Reply #218 on: April 13, 2021, 09:46:36 pm »
Prosecution expert, Cardiologist Dr. Jonathan Rich, did not do his side any favors today:


https://vimeo.com/535971884

Rich actually argued that because of Floyd's enlarged heart and arterial blockage, he was less likely to die from heart failure.
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Re: Derek Chauvin Trial
« Reply #219 on: April 13, 2021, 10:26:30 pm »
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THREE-PRONGED ANALYSIS: National police use of force expert Barry Brodd finds #DerekChauvin actions justified in Chauvin's response to the level of resistance from #GeorgeFloyd.

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« Reply #220 on: April 13, 2021, 10:28:19 pm »
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SAFER FOR THE OFFICERS & SUSPECT IN PRONE CONTROL: National police use of force expert Barry Brodd on why #Mpls police were justified keeping #GeorgeFloyd face down, handcuffed outside Cup Foods. #DerekChauvinTrial

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« Reply #221 on: April 13, 2021, 10:30:08 pm »
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Judge Peter Cahill is sending the jury home following the completion of witness testimony from defense use of force expert Barry Brodd. Cahill says the attorneys have some legal matters to discuss now. So court remains in session w/out the jury. #GeorgeFloyd #DerekChauvinTrial


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« Reply #222 on: April 13, 2021, 10:35:24 pm »
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#BREAKINGFireFire New body cam footage shows George Floyd's passengers saying "He still won't get in the car! Just sit down George! Oh man, what is he doing?"

"Now he goin to jail!"

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« Reply #223 on: April 13, 2021, 11:04:52 pm »
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INSIDE THE SUV: Shawanda Hill telling the jury about her attempts & those of Cup Food employees to wake up #GeorgeFloyd as Floyd slept in the driver's seat of his SUV. #DerekChauvinTrial

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Re: Derek Chauvin Trial
« Reply #224 on: April 14, 2021, 12:54:20 am »
Prosecution expert, Cardiologist Dr. Jonathan Rich, did not do his side any favors today:


https://vimeo.com/535971884

Rich actually argued that because of Floyd's enlarged heart and arterial blockage, he was less likely to die from heart failure.

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Say WHAT?

HTH does that make any sense at all?

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