Time to End the Clock-Changing Madness

[Cyber Liberty]

REALLY? So how do you know when it's time to quit for breakfast?
Bar rush at the diner was almost as good a party as the bar itself.

There is a reason why you don't see any clocks in Casinos....

[roamer_1]

There is a reason why you don't see any clocks in Casinos....

I wouldn't know. I never been to a casino. 

[roamer_1]

Hold on... that ain't right. Went with some buddies to the Gold Rush for breakfast the one time, maybe 20 years ago... I guess they have good food cheap... But too noisy and too much carrying on... Ain't ever been back.

[Cyber Liberty]

Hold on... that ain't right. Went with some buddies to the Gold Rush for breakfast the one time, maybe 20 years ago... I guess they have good food cheap... But too noisy and too much carrying on... Ain't ever been back.

Casinos are noisy places.  I used to walk around them while Mrs. Liberty played the games, just to drown out the perpetual ringing in my ears.  The frequency of the machine noises matched that of my tinnitus.

[240B]

We have all already lost an entire year.
What difference does another hour make?

[roamer_1]

Casinos are noisy places.  I used to walk around them while Mrs. Liberty played the games, just to drown out the perpetual ringing in my ears.  The frequency of the machine noises matched that of my tinnitus.

That's a weird thing for me. I am perfectly fine in a fabrication shop, or a welding shop, or a mechanic's shop. Been ground crew for big machinery about all my life. None of that gets me.

Maybe it's all the people I don't know combined with all the noise... But I was jangly and on edge the whole dang time... Don't like big venues and flat won't go... other than car shows and rodeos.

I don't get it. If it was the mudhole with screaming chevys throwing cowpie roostertails I would be having the time of my life.

[Sled Dog]

Always was a stupid idea.

And now the morons want to make the DST permanent, like the stolen elections.

And for what?   DST serves no purpose and never has.   One of the world's original Squirrels.

[Slide Rule]

[roamer_1]

Always was a stupid idea.

And now the morons want to make the DST permanent, like the stolen elections.

And for what?   DST serves no purpose and never has.   One of the world's original Squirrels.

Not that regular time means anything either... None of it works with what Yah ordained.

[Victoria33]

Agreed. Pick one or the other and then leave it the heck alone.

@libertybele

You know my son lives in Wales, which is in the UK.  They change time two weeks from now.  I talk to him twice a week on Skype, so for the next two weeks, I contact him using the old time here, and after those two weeks, use the new present time.

This is what is wrong with laws - once you have one, it is almost impossible to change it.

[Cyber Liberty]

@libertybele

You know my son lives in Wales, which is in the UK.  They change time two weeks from now.  I talk to him twice a week on Skype, so for the next two weeks, I contact him using the old time here, and after those two weeks, use the new present time.

This is what is wrong with laws - once you have one, it is almost impossible to change it.

As a corollary to that, when the National Government makes a law, it wipes clean State laws.  A move to permanent DST would necessitate throwing out Arizona, Alaska and Hawaii laws and forcing DST upon them.

[Sled Dog]

Not that regular time means anything either... None of it works with what Yah ordained.

Yah Wahtever.

How it's supposed to work is that as one travels westward the time zones jump an hour to compensate for the change in longitude to keep the solar time approximately consistent around the globe with the human clocks.

DST means people coming to the Other Left Coast of the United States from the east will have to adjust their watches by TWO hours.    That much extra winding will eventually wear down the watches faster and have an economic impact at the jewelers.

It's just a dumb idea and has always been a dumb idea.  What was the reason the farmers couldn't get up earlier, before?   Or the office workers whose employers wanted them to use daylight to save lighting bills?    No reason to screw up the clocks of an entire nation for any of that.

[Sled Dog]

As a corollary to that, when the National Government makes a law, it wipes clean State laws.  A move to permanent DST would necessitate throwing out Arizona, Alaska and Hawaii laws and forcing DST upon them.

Alaska should just insist that it's clocks be moved 12 hours ahead of DST...?

How about 24 hours and get a leg up on New Years and Christmas?

[roamer_1]

Yah Wahtever.

How it's supposed to work is that as one travels westward the time zones jump an hour to compensate for the change in longitude to keep the solar time approximately consistent around the globe with the human clocks.

DST means people coming to the Other Left Coast of the United States from the east will have to adjust their watches by TWO hours.    That much extra winding will eventually wear down the watches faster and have an economic impact at the jewelers.

It's just a dumb idea and has always been a dumb idea.  What was the reason the farmers couldn't get up earlier, before?   Or the office workers whose employers wanted them to use daylight to save lighting bills?    No reason to screw up the clocks of an entire nation for any of that.

Meh. Doesn't matter to me a whit. I don't think I even own a watch anymore... Might still have my dress watch, but it's been so long since I put on airs, I can't even remember the last time I did. Though I guess I ought to go find that stuff. I have a sweet little silver and turquoise stiletto hanging out with that full-dress gear. It would sure be nice to see that again.

As for time, a hand held sideways is about an hour against the sun. Close enough for me.

[mystery-ak]

Democrat introduces sensible bill to eliminate clock changes

    Sen. Ed Markey is among the advocates reintroducing a bill that would make it so we’d no longer need to change the clocks. The “Sunshine Protection Act” is supported by a bipartisan group of senators.

    “I know how much people love sunshine. I know how much better it makes everyone feel,” Markey said in an interview with CBSN Boston. “And I know it’s economic benefits, it’s mental health benefits.”

    This is the fourth time Congress has taken up a bill like this. Fifteen states have passed similar laws but for the change to apply, federal statute is required.

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https://hotair.com/archives/jazz-shaw/2021/03/16/democrat-introduces-sensible-bill-eliminate-clock-changes/

[Polly Ticks]

They've kind of been incrementally heading toward permanent DST for a while now.  Years ago we changed the clocks in mid-October and mid-April; now it's mid-to-late November and early-to-mid March. 

[Fishrrman]

Changing the clocks as we do seems to make sense here in New England, to keep daybreak in a relatively even time frame.

I guess if one is a thousand miles close to the equator, in Texas, Florida, or southern California, it may seem different.

The hardest part of the time change is dealing with old digital clocks where the pushbuttons used to adjust the time won't work anymore (contacts go bad due to age). The little clock sitting nearby on my ethernet switch has time-set buttons that don't work at all any more -- what I have to do is take out the battery, and then re-insert it at 1pm to "restart" it...

[roamer_1]

Changing the clocks as we do seems to make sense here in New England, to keep daybreak in a relatively even time frame.

I guess if one is a thousand miles close to the equator, in Texas, Florida, or southern California, it may seem different.

The hardest part of the time change is dealing with old digital clocks where the pushbuttons used to adjust the time won't work anymore (contacts go bad due to age). The little clock sitting nearby on my ethernet switch has time-set buttons that don't work at all any more -- what I have to do is take out the battery, and then re-insert it at 1pm to "restart" it...

Why not simply change business hours and school hours and leave the clocks alone?

[roamer_1]

Although I should say... I am happy with automated time servers... I have three clocks left in the house that do not automatically adjust to global time servers. The nuke, the stove, and my alarm clock by the bed. None of which I change or pay mind to.

So half the year they are right - or more likely, we will lose electric within a few months and I will have to reprogram them anyway... So why bother.

And any clock I buy from now on (which is granted, unlikely) will be IoT, and be able to find the router and catch the time, self adjusting.

[Sled Dog]

Changing the clocks as we do seems to make sense here in New England, to keep daybreak in a relatively even time frame.

I guess if one is a thousand miles close to the equator, in Texas, Florida, or southern California, it may seem different.

The hardest part of the time change is dealing with old digital clocks where the pushbuttons used to adjust the time won't work anymore (contacts go bad due to age). The little clock sitting nearby on my ethernet switch has time-set buttons that don't work at all any more -- what I have to do is take out the battery, and then re-insert it at 1pm to "restart" it...

Hmmm....so DST is a good idea if the high latitude of the state makes for long winter nights and short winter days.

What should we do for the parts of Alaska north of the Artic Circle, then?

[BassWrangler]

Changing the clocks as we do seems to make sense here in New England, to keep daybreak in a relatively even time frame.

I guess if one is a thousand miles close to the equator, in Texas, Florida, or southern California, it may seem different.

The hardest part of the time change is dealing with old digital clocks where the pushbuttons used to adjust the time won't work anymore (contacts go bad due to age). The little clock sitting nearby on my ethernet switch has time-set buttons that don't work at all any more -- what I have to do is take out the battery, and then re-insert it at 1pm to "restart" it...

I don't agree with this. I also live in a northern latitude. DST comes around just as the days are already lengthening, and so provides absolutely zero value.