GOP dilemma — how to keep Trumpers yet regain anti-Trumpers

[skeeter]

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There is no Marxist wing of the  Rodent party.

Outside of the one or two skin tags, and I can't even name one, the entire Rodent Party is pure fascist, which is Marxism on a Orwellian Twenty-Year Hate.

fascist, I’ll buy that.

[roamer_1]

We cannot become like the Dems.  We need to put our conservative heads together and come up with solutions.

There is only one solution. Throw ALL the bastards out. Plow the ground. NONE survive the next three elections.

None survive without balanced budgets.
None survive without massive spending reductions.
None survive that appease or entertain liberalism in the slightest way.
None survive that seek to consolidate power in the fed, that refuse to turn power back to the States.
None survive that try to amend morality to acommodate liberal views or social justice bullcrap.

What will fix it -The ONLY thing that will fix it - Is pure, unadulterated, un-hyphenated
CONSERVATISM. And that from an entire machine - A whole party... Nothing else will do.

But still Republicans will compromise and accuse me of purism. And go chasing after shiny things and candy thrown from the front of the parade.

I know. I have seen it over and over and over again. For decades.
But it is down to the wire now. It may not be fixable.

But the only way we have is for all y'all to grow a pair and defend Conservatism.

[Hoodat]

There is only one solution. Throw ALL the bastards out. Plow the ground. NONE survive the next three elections.

The Tom Clancy book Executive Orders fascinated me.  The Vice President resigns.  Jack Ryan is chosen as the new VP to be sworn in at a Joint session of Congress attended by the President, his Cabinet, and all nine Supreme Court Justices.  Once Ryan is sworn in, he is shuttled out on the rails below, just in time to avoid a Japan Airlines 747 crashing into the Capitol.  Roughly 90% of all legislators, cabinet officers, and SCOTUS justices are killed.

Here is a guy who is not a politician and has never run for any public office suddenly becoming President with the opportunity for a complete do-over, and a nation having to elect brand new legislators.  Just imagine the possibilities.

[roamer_1]

The Tom Clancy book Executive Orders fascinated me.  The Vice President resigns.  Jack Ryan is chosen as the new VP to be sworn in at a Joint session of Congress attended by the President, his Cabinet, and all nine Supreme Court Justices.  Once Ryan is sworn in, he is shuttled out on the rails below, just in time to avoid a Japan Airlines 747 crashing into the Capitol.  Roughly 90% of all legislators, cabinet officers, and SCOTUS justices are killed.

Here is a guy who is not a politician and has never run for any public office suddenly becoming President with the opportunity for a complete do-over, and a nation having to elect brand new legislators.  Just imagine the possibilities.

It's nearly what has to happen. Hopefully in a less violent alternative. 

[christian]

The problem with the Republican party is a section of the Republicans will betray Republicans to favor the democrats when ever a crisis or critical vote arrives.  As the traitors in their midst are quite reliable at betraying the Republicans, it is stupidity to tray to organize and re-train all Republicans, when only a small infected sector need to be purged.  Like a cancerous infected body, it is the cancer that needs to be addressed, not try and cure the entire body.  You are being intentionally lead down blind alleys.  It's what your opponents do.

[Hoodat]

The problem with the Republican party is a section of the Republicans will betray Republicans to favor the democrats when ever a crisis or critical vote arrives.

The problem with the Republican Party is that it is no longer a Conservative party.  It has become Democrat-lite and too lazy to fight for anything.

[roamer_1]

The problem with the Republican Party is that it is no longer a Conservative party.  It has become Democrat-lite and too lazy to fight for anything.

That's right.

[BassWrangler]

The problem with the Republican Party is that it is no longer a Conservative party.  It has become Democrat-lite and too lazy to fight for anything.

^^^ This ^^^

[christian]

So now a castrated Republican party is supposed to keep the democrats in check, even though that is nearly impossible.  Is a sobriety test needed before posting here or sanity test administered?

[roamer_1]

So now a castrated Republican party is supposed to keep the democrats in check, even though that is nearly impossible.  Is a sobriety test needed before posting here or sanity test administered?

It has been castrated for decades.

[Hoodat]

Say what?

The RINO's had it all planned out, with extensive polling in the years following the Disaster Commonly Known As Romney.  They determined that their next preferred meat-puppet candidate, Jeb! could not win the nomination in any reasonable campaign, so they undertook to change the rules and then game the system.  Many state GOP rules moved to "winner takes all" delegate snatches, going to the candidate who got the plurality of the votes.  And then they started adding candidates to the national slate until they could reliably predict that Please Give Me The Clap would gain the most votes in enough states to secure the nomination....thus Jeb!'s idiotic public remark that he didn't need votes to get the nomination.

The GOPe had determined by 2015 that they would need 16 candidates on the beginning Republican lineup to foist Jeb! onto the public.  .  .  .

@Sled Dog

The GOPe considers Cruz to be a much bigger threat to them than Trump.  Cruz was working feverishly with the grass roots at the State level during the campaign trying to restore Conservatism in the GOP.  Trump on the other hand showed zero interest in the intricacies of internal party politics.  The GOPe sided with Trump.  In exchange, Trump allowed the GOPe to select his delegates.  Trump arrived at the convention with enough delegates to give him the nomination, and the GOPe arrived at the convention with enough delegates to reshape the rules in their favor for the next election.  At that convention, the Conservative grass roots movement was killed off.  Cruz and his appeal for Conservatism was loudly booed by GOPe delegates.  And Trump sycophants cheered it on.

After the convention, the GOPe did nothing to help Trump get elected. They would have been perfectly content with a Hillary win since their only objective was killing off grass root Conservatism like they did in Colorado.

By 2020, Trump replaced Cruz as their biggest threat.  But now they had complete control at the state level.  And it was at the state level that Republicans refused to fight for Trump and election integrity.

[roamer_1]

@Sled Dog

The GOPe considers Cruz to be a much bigger threat to them than Trump.  Cruz was working feverishly with the grass roots at the State level during the campaign trying to restore Conservatism in the GOP.  Trump on the other hand showed zero interest in the intricacies of internal party politics.  The GOPe sided with Trump.  In exchange, Trump allowed the GOPe to select his delegates.  Trump arrived at the convention with enough delegates to give him the nomination, and the GOPe arrived at the convention with enough delegates to reshape the rules in their favor for the next election.  At that convention, the Conservative grass roots movement was killed off.  Cruz and his appeal for Conservatism was loudly booed by GOPe delegates.  And Trump sycophants cheered it on.

After the convention, the GOPe did nothing to help Trump get elected. They would have been perfectly content with a Hillary win since their only objective was killing off grass root Conservatism like they did in Colorado.

By 2020, Trump replaced Cruz as their biggest threat.  But now they had complete control at the state level.  And it was at the state level that Republicans refused to fight for Trump and election integrity.

FACTS.

Who needs that dumb ol TEA Party anyway?

[sneakypete]

@Sled Dog

The GOPe considers Cruz to be a much bigger threat to them than Trump.  Cruz was working feverishly with the grass roots at the State level during the campaign trying to restore Conservatism in the GOP.  Trump on the other hand showed zero interest in the intricacies of internal party politics.  The GOPe sided with Trump.  In exchange, Trump allowed the GOPe to select his delegates.  Trump arrived at the convention with enough delegates to give him the nomination, and the GOPe arrived at the convention with enough delegates to reshape the rules in their favor for the next election.  At that convention, the Conservative grass roots movement was killed off.  Cruz and his appeal for Conservatism was loudly booed by GOPe delegates.  And Trump sycophants cheered it on.

After the convention, the GOPe did nothing to help Trump get elected. They would have been perfectly content with a Hillary win since their only objective was killing off grass root Conservatism like they did in Colorado.

By 2020, Trump replaced Cruz as their biggest threat.  But now they had complete control at the state level.  And it was at the state level that Republicans refused to fight for Trump and election integrity.

@Hoodat

I feel just like I just finished reading a "The Twilight Zone" script.

[dancer]

Trump was one of the best presidents in American history.  Right up there with Lincoln and Washington and Reagan.   Except Trump didn't give amnesty to an invading army of illegal aliens.

He accomplished vast things, not the least of which was totally unhinging the Rodents and making them reveal to the public what disgusting animals they and their media hacks truly are.

75 million people voted for Trump, officially, more than any other candidate ever received in an American election.   

Wait for it....

Bears repeating. 

Some here talk about his ego, his antics.  They don't seem to get that he does these things intentionally, jerking their chains.  It's the only way he can get any media coverage and spread his ideas to the masses.  It works every single time!
They can't resist!  *       LOL 

I am astounded to see so many not seeing the amazing record of accomplishments.  He did all that with both hands tied behind his back!  The Swamp is vast and deep.  They've taken over everything.  It's not about R vs. D.  It's about being a sovereign nation/MAGA vs. The Swamp/Global one world government. 

Once people realize that, things start to fall into place. 

[dancer]

Wait, I thought Trump was going to be inaugurated on March 4, 2021....

Trolls like to play numbers & dates.  Best to not give them free publicity.  I do believe things will happen, but only the good Lord knows when. 

[dancer]

Wrong.

"Republicans" did not control House or Senate.

The Speaker of the House was RINO Ryan, a disgusting turn-coat who did everything he could to impede American progress.

In the Senate there was that disgusting Turtle as Majority Leader, and, even worse, McStain wasn't dead.  McStain is the reason the Senate couldn't repeal that abomination called MessiahCare.   McStain stood in the way of Bush's tax cuts back in 2001, if you'll also recall.

So, no, the GOP as the Party of Americans did not control either House or Senate in the 2017-2019 term, the RINOs did and colluded with the socialist terrorists to harm America.

NEVER let a RINO get into office again, even if that means voting for Rodents to stop them.  They're filthy disgusting things that vacuum up Rodent droppings like tilapia on a feeding frenzy.

   

[txradioguy]

All gone. All of it. Anything that is left will be gone soon enough... As predicted.
20 FRIGGIN TRILLION DOLLARS for a four year pipe dream.

And off you go, with stars in your eyes to do it all over again.

Mark my words.

@roamer_1 he puts up that defense of everything Trump supposedly erased of Obama's...except for the trend of massive spending.  Trump outspent Obama when it came to increasing the national debt and the deficit.

[roamer_1]

@roamer_1 he puts up that defense of everything Trump supposedly erased of Obama's...except for the trend of massive spending.  Trump outspent Obama when it came to increasing the national debt and the deficit.

That's precisely right @txradioguy ... and there ain't no way to argue differently.

[BassWrangler]

@Hoodat

I feel just like I just finished reading a "The Twilight Zone" script.

@sneakypete - or one of those alternate realities books.

[Cyber Liberty]

That's precisely right @txradioguy ... and there ain't no way to argue differently.

Politics is astonishingly simple when one only needs to consider a single issue. Everything is cut and dried.

[sneakypete]

Bears repeating. 

Some here talk about his ego, his antics.  They don't seem to get that he does these things intentionally, jerking their chains.  It's the only way he can get any media coverage and spread his ideas to the masses.  It works every single time!
They can't resist!  *       LOL 

I am astounded to see so many not seeing the amazing record of accomplishments.

@dancer @Sled Dog

I'm not. Most people are conditioned to be self-centered cretins whose sole focus is "Me,me,ME,DAMMIT!"

The old "Look out for Number 1!"

It's not that (most of them,anyway) are stupid,it's just what they have been taught to think since they were old enough to walk and talk.

Some people grow out of this,and other's don't. The only thing we can do with the ones that don't is to try to convince them that it is in their own good to live in a free and independent country.

   

It's not about R vs. D.  It's about being a sovereign nation/MAGA vs. The Swamp/Global one world government. 

Yes,it is,and right now the "bleep YOU,ME FIRST!" mindset of the dependent left is winning.

Once people realize that, things start to fall into place.

No,first you will have to convince them that a One World Government is not in their best interests.

[skeeter]

Politics is astonishingly simple when one only needs to consider a single issue. Everything is cut and dried.

A single issue, inaccurately framed in a manner convenient to an opinion they already have.

[sneakypete]

A single issue, inaccurately framed in a manner convenient to an opinion they already have.

@skeeter

That IS the way the game is played by the pros that control it.

In FACT,that is the way *I* play it,too. My attempt may be imperfect at times because like everyone else I am in an imperfect person,but MY prime question is always "What is best for the survival of America as a free and independent nation?"

[txradioguy]

Politics is astonishingly simple when one only needs to consider a single issue. Everything is cut and dried.

But when you think about it...the massive spending isn't just a single issue.  It affects every aspect of policy making.

[skeeter]

@skeeter

That IS the way the game is played by the pros that control it.

In FACT,that is the way *I* play it,too. My attempt may be imperfect at times because like everyone else I am in an imperfect person,but MY prime question is always "What is best for the survival of America as a free and independent nation?"

That is my main concern as well, taking the situation and conditions as they are. Keeping in mind the perfect should not be made the enemy of the good.