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Social media increasingly being used for hire/fire decisions
« on: January 21, 2021, 05:52:38 PM »
Struggle sessions are here, my friends.

I am looking at an email from a hospital system to all doctors and staff. It tells the staff that their social media posts will be subject to evaluation and that the hospital system "will not tolerate racism". Now given the fact that any opposition to the Democrat agenda is being mischaracterized as racism, the implications are clear. They can and will terminate you if you run afoul of the woke crowds ever-changing rules. If you are still actively employed, I highly recommend you take steps to sanitize, anonymize, or delete your social media accounts or all posts.

Don't assume your accounts are anonymous because you didn't use your real name. For example, unless you disable this feature in Settings, on Twitter people can search for you by email address. And even if you disable that feature, I wouldn't trust it.

If your plan is to keep your posts non-political, be aware that what's innocent and non-political today may be a target of the "woke" gestapo tomorrow.

The safest thing to do is to just delete your social media accounts, or keep them but don't post anything.

If you want to keep a FaceBook account, FaceBook does now provide a feature to delete posts "in bulk". It is, however, cumbersome and buggy, so if you have a lot of posts, budget significant time for this task. More info here:

https://www.lifewire.com/how-to-mass-delete-facebook-posts-4767192

For Twitter, there is a really nice service that will do it for you:

https://tweetdelete.net/

Remember that you need to delete both posts and "likes" (these are two separate actions in TweetDelete). Even after you do that, people can still infer your political alignment by looking at what accounts you follow. I will be deleting my Twitter account altogether once Parler is back up. You can also register for Twitter using an email that no ones knows about.
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Re: Social media increasingly being used for hire/fire decisions
« Reply #1 on: January 21, 2021, 06:19:26 PM »
Had a Twitter account, never posted anything, but I just closed it.

Disabled my FB,  I may go ahead and delete it.


But know that not having a Facebook or Twitter account, may also be considered a "Red Flag", as they may think you are hiding something. 

Pretty soon they will want to see evidence that you actively posted things in favor of the current orthodoxy and actively denounced anyone who said anything against it.

That's what the did in the Soviet Union, under Stalin, they went after people who hadn't denounced anyone.

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« Reply #2 on: January 21, 2021, 06:21:41 PM »
Furthermore I suspect you will see in job interviews them ask you to give specific examples of how you worked to address racial inequality.    And you'd better have a good answer.

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« Reply #3 on: January 21, 2021, 06:33:16 PM »
Furthermore I suspect you will see in job interviews them ask you to give specific examples of how you worked to address racial inequality.    And you'd better have a good answer.

Where I work, every interviewer has to ask one question from one of 8 or so designated areas that come from HR. Lately they have been pushing this concept of "allyship", which is basically taking steps to "increase diversity" (their concept of diversity, which is mostly based on surface attributes like skin color). I can see them adding a category around that to the interview. But it won't be "what have you done..." but rather "How would you handle this situation".

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Re: Social media increasingly being used for hire/fire decisions
« Reply #4 on: January 21, 2021, 06:36:08 PM »
Man, am I ever happy I stayed away from chasing a corporate job and  stayed self-employed...

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« Reply #5 on: January 21, 2021, 06:41:04 PM »
Man, am I ever happy I stayed away from chasing a corporate job and  stayed self-employed...

I envy you. I know there is a downside, but it's really quite something to watch all this unfold. Corporations are a big way the government is getting around the constitution. As they kill off small business, more and more people will end up working for one too.

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« Reply #6 on: January 21, 2021, 06:47:48 PM »
I envy you. I know there is a downside, but it's really quite something to watch all this unfold. Corporations are a big way the government is getting around the constitution. As they kill off small business, more and more people will end up working for one too.

Well,  not me... I am uniquely designed to eschew following leaders. I have had offers. Heck, I been around it so much that folks upstairs thought I was a regulation basement troll. Nope. Ever a contractor, as my daddy and his daddy before him. I'll go gypsy before I go corporate.

But this thing that is happening.... Look up a little thing called 3rd-way socialism. You will see what they're doing. It is the feds that are behind all this, I would nearly guarantee.

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« Reply #7 on: January 21, 2021, 07:00:59 PM »
Well,  not me... I am uniquely designed to eschew following leaders. I have had offers. Heck, I been around it so much that folks upstairs thought I was a regulation basement troll. Nope. Ever a contractor, as my daddy and his daddy before him. I'll go gypsy before I go corporate.

But this thing that is happening.... Look up a little thing called 3rd-way socialism. You will see what they're doing. It is the feds that are behind all this, I would nearly guarantee.

This?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_Way

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« Reply #8 on: January 21, 2021, 07:24:48 PM »
This?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_Way

Sort of. That's a rather rosy picture. The conclusion to how you paint that rosy picture is not government owned industry, which the moderates reject. It is government controlled capitalism, where government incentivizes and protects corporations that play ball, in a sort of corporate cronyism between industry leaders and the government.

That is the field that's been plowed, and is now being fought over at a global level - The difference being between the global communists on the left that love their top-down hierarchy style tyranny, and their vision through the UN, and the more distributed corporate oligarchy as envisioned on the so-called right, with government remaining in the back seat providing direction with stick-and-carrot and corporations doing the deed and holding the bag... with the eventual tyrant(s) at the top.

It is funny how clean and harmless Wikipedia has made it seem.

And it sure smells like it in this woohan thing. Who is enforcing masks? Why, federal and some state governments, banks, and national and international corporations that mysteriously get to stay open while small businesses languish. That's sign on the ground to me...


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« Reply #9 on: January 22, 2021, 07:55:34 AM »
15 years ago my BIL worked in HR. One of the first things he asked was if they had a Bookface account. He had already googled them before they walked in the door, so he knew if they were lying.
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« Reply #10 on: January 22, 2021, 11:31:11 AM »
15 years ago my BIL worked in HR. One of the first things he asked was if they had a Bookface account. He had already googled them before they walked in the door, so he knew if they were lying.

Scary.

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« Reply #11 on: January 22, 2021, 01:41:55 PM »
Meh, the only social media accounts I ever opened were with the new options to twitter and the like but I never posted anything anywhere. Now my late dog had a facebook account but he never posted anywhere but dog sites.

My mother who escaped communism keeps telling me to be careful what I say because it's just like it was under communism people are listening and there will be punishment for saying the wrong thing like the democrats stole the ellection. Sadly it seeks there is half this nation that don't understand or see what those that escaped a communist regime warned them of.

 (ahem, to the watchers, I'm not saying that is what happened just that the wrong thinkers, the disloyal to the state ones are saying that. Joe Biden is great and he didn't steal the election, Trump is evil.)


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« Reply #12 on: January 22, 2021, 02:28:01 PM »
Meh, the only social media accounts I ever opened were with the new options to twitter and the like but I never posted anything anywhere. Now my late dog had a facebook account but he never posted anywhere but dog sites.

My mother who escaped communism keeps telling me to be careful what I say because it's just like it was under communism people are listening and there will be punishment for saying the wrong thing like the democrats stole the ellection. Sadly it seeks there is half this nation that don't understand or see what those that escaped a communist regime warned them of.

 (ahem, to the watchers, I'm not saying that is what happened just that the wrong thinkers, the disloyal to the state ones are saying that. Joe Biden is great and he didn't steal the election, Trump is evil.)

Your mom is 100% correct. It's hard to accept that's where we are here in the U.S.A., but we are. Registration and then taking the guns will be their next move.


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« Reply #13 on: January 22, 2021, 08:04:21 PM »
Meh, the only social media accounts I ever opened were with the new options to twitter and the like but I never posted anything anywhere. Now my late dog had a facebook account but he never posted anywhere but dog sites.

My mother who escaped communism keeps telling me to be careful what I say because it's just like it was under communism people are listening and there will be punishment for saying the wrong thing like the democrats stole the ellection. Sadly it seeks there is half this nation that don't understand or see what those that escaped a communist regime warned them of.

 (ahem, to the watchers, I'm not saying that is what happened just that the wrong thinkers, the disloyal to the state ones are saying that. Joe Biden is great and he didn't steal the election, Trump is evil.)


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You opened an account on this conservative website, as well as posting on it, didn't you?

Do you think their scrutiny is confined to Twitter and Facebook?
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« Reply #14 on: January 22, 2021, 09:12:19 PM »
You opened an account on this conservative website, as well as posting on it, didn't you?

Do you think their scrutiny is confined to Twitter and Facebook?

1) They can't get my real name or email address from here.
2) This place is like a diner in some small town. They don't even know it exists.

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« Reply #15 on: January 22, 2021, 09:37:53 PM »
I had a final interview once with a particular nasty HR bitch for a sales job with a fortune 500 company.  I drove 3 or 4 hours to get there only to find out the final hiring decision was to be made the Bitch. It was hot as hell that day and she made me wait 30 minutes to meet with her.  She was a particularly unpleasant anbd unfriendly bulldyke.  After about 30 minute with her she asked me why I wanted to work for XYZ company?  Now I already knew she wasn't going to okay my employment so I looked her in the eyes, loosened my tie and said; "I would never want to work for a company that would have me as an employee." 
That was when security escorted me out of the building.
Any political party that can't cough up anything better than a treacherous brain-damaged old vulture like Joe Biden deserves to die a slow death.

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« Reply #16 on: January 22, 2021, 11:17:45 PM »
You opened an account on this conservative website, as well as posting on it, didn't you?

Do you think their scrutiny is confined to Twitter and Facebook?
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« Reply #17 on: January 22, 2021, 11:19:50 PM »
I had a final interview once with a particular nasty HR bitch for a sales job with a fortune 500 company.  I drove 3 or 4 hours to get there only to find out the final hiring decision was to be made the Bitch. It was hot as hell that day and she made me wait 30 minutes to meet with her.  She was a particularly unpleasant anbd unfriendly bulldyke.  After about 30 minute with her she asked me why I wanted to work for XYZ company?  Now I already knew she wasn't going to okay my employment so I looked her in the eyes, loosened my tie and said; "I would never want to work for a company that would have me as an employee." 
That was when security escorted me out of the building.
And that's the problem with honesty, it is never really appreciated.
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« Reply #18 on: January 22, 2021, 11:23:31 PM »
1) They can't get my real name or email address from here.
2) This place is like a diner in some small town. They don't even know it exists.

The key is there is no way they can trace your employer from it.  Now if you post anything about where you work or include any pictures that indicate where you work, then yes, that's a problem.  Never provide any clues about where you work.  And NEVER friend any co-worker.

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« Reply #19 on: January 22, 2021, 11:25:00 PM »
I had a final interview once with a particular nasty HR bitch for a sales job with a fortune 500 company.  I drove 3 or 4 hours to get there only to find out the final hiring decision was to be made the Bitch. It was hot as hell that day and she made me wait 30 minutes to meet with her.  She was a particularly unpleasant anbd unfriendly bulldyke.  After about 30 minute with her she asked me why I wanted to work for XYZ company?  Now I already knew she wasn't going to okay my employment so I looked her in the eyes, loosened my tie and said; "I would never want to work for a company that would have me as an employee." 
That was when security escorted me out of the building.

LOL, I would have told her, "I would never want to work for a company that would have YOU as an employee." 

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« Reply #20 on: January 22, 2021, 11:37:15 PM »
You are tracked in so many ways deleting accounts just flags you.
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« Reply #21 on: January 23, 2021, 12:33:04 AM »
The key is there is no way they can trace your employer from it.  Now if you post anything about where you work or include any pictures that indicate where you work, then yes, that's a problem.  Never provide any clues about where you work.  And NEVER friend any co-worker.

Good point.

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« Reply #22 on: January 23, 2021, 03:39:59 PM »
1) They can't get my real name or email address from here.
2) This place is like a diner in some small town. They don't even know it exists.
Eh, why do you think Biden is hiring over 100,000 'contact tracers' for anyway?

Hint:  they are not to help mitigate spread of a virus.
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« Reply #23 on: January 23, 2021, 04:39:02 PM »
LOL, I would have told her, "I would never want to work for a company that would have YOU as an employee."

You know, that would have been a better retort!. 
Any political party that can't cough up anything better than a treacherous brain-damaged old vulture like Joe Biden deserves to die a slow death.

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« Reply #24 on: January 23, 2021, 05:13:41 PM »
Thankfully I'm retired. And I don't know a thing about social media like twitter/facebook, so I don 't use it. However, I have posted thousands of notes on message boards like this one.They won't have trouble finding out where I stand.


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