Author Topic: Republicans Have a Choice to Make Post-Trump, They’d Best Choose Wisely  (Read 3552 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline mystery-ak

  • Owner
  • Administrator
  • ******
  • Posts: 311,977
  • Gender: Female
  • Lunch bucket Joe says "Come on man!"
Republicans Have a Choice to Make Post-Trump, They’d Best Choose Wisely
By Bonchie | Jan 11, 2021 10:30 PM ET


Sometimes a take so bad comes across the wire that it’s worth using as a jumping off point for a bigger thought. That happened today in the form of an editorial put out by the Washington Examiner. In it, Tiana Lowe explains that Kevin McCarthy should be booted as House minority leader, not to be replaced with a more effective figure that Republican voters can get behind, but to be pave the way for Liz Cheney.

Yes, there are apparently people still out there that believe Liz Cheney represents the future of the party.

more
https://redstate.com/bonchie/2021/01/11/if-you-think-liz-cheney-is-the-future-youve-learned-absolutely-nothing-n308436
Support the USO
Democrat Party...the Party of Infanticide

Online cato potatoe

  • Hero Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 1,801
  • Gender: Male
There is nothing wrong with incorporating the populist, America-first elements.  In fact this will be necessary for building a coalition in the midwest.  Main problem with Trump is a near total absence of discipline or tactfulness.  In the end, his lack of political skills more than offset his appeal to the Reagan Democrats. 

Online dfwgator

  • Hero Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 15,232
There is nothing wrong with incorporating the populist, America-first elements.  In fact this will be necessary for building a coalition in the midwest.  Main problem with Trump is a near total absence of discipline or tactfulness.  In the end, his lack of political skills more than offset his appeal to the Reagan Democrats.


As they say, "You don't know what you got until it's gone."

Offline andy58-in-nh

  • Hero Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 8,029
  • Gender: Male
If the only choice Republicans have is between a Beltway globalist and a populist with the emotional intelligence of a toddler, they've got big problems.
To hell with every single one of these bastards who are creating a moral permission slip for anarchists and other criminals and thugs to destroy our country as we know it.

- Rich Lowry, National Review

Online Mesaclone

  • Hero Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 3,009
There is nothing wrong with incorporating the populist, America-first elements.  In fact this will be necessary for building a coalition in the midwest.  Main problem with Trump is a near total absence of discipline or tactfulness.  In the end, his lack of political skills more than offset his appeal to the Reagan Democrats.

The only “incorporating” that’s to be done will involve folks like Cheney/Romney/Bush and others of the establishment ilk being incorporated into a GOP that reflects and fights hard for Trumps MAGA agenda...America first being the mantra. As for political instincts, Trump has more of them than any leader in our lifetime. He does, admittedly lack tact and discipline, but what’s needed is Jacksonian fire, not Bush wimpism. The Cheney/NT folks had best accept that this party will not be conceding itself to the old establishment Repubs...they can still board the Trump train, or just openly go Dem rather than covertly doing so (as they do now).
« Last Edit: January 12, 2021, 10:39:26 AM by Mesaclone »

Online dfwgator

  • Hero Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 15,232
If the only choice Republicans have is between a Beltway globalist and a populist with the emotional intelligence of a toddler, they've got big problems.

I'll take the "toddler" thank you very much.

Offline skeeter

  • Hero Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 22,169
  • Gender: Male
I'll take the "toddler" thank you very much.

Any day of the week.

Twice on Sundays.

Offline andy58-in-nh

  • Hero Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 8,029
  • Gender: Male
I'll take the "toddler" thank you very much.

I'd prefer a populist who can control his emotions.
To hell with every single one of these bastards who are creating a moral permission slip for anarchists and other criminals and thugs to destroy our country as we know it.

- Rich Lowry, National Review

Online dfwgator

  • Hero Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 15,232
I'd prefer a populist who can control his emotions.

When you find one who has the balls Trump does, let me know.

Offline Wingnut

  • The last American hero, the electric centaur, the demi-god, the super driver of the golden west
  • Hero Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 14,438
  • Gender: Male
I'd prefer a populist who can control his emotions.

I'll take someone who won't shit himself and happily smile while sucking on a binkie.
Any political party that can't cough up anything better than a treacherous brain-damaged old vulture like Joe Biden deserves to die a slow death.

Online dfwgator

  • Hero Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 15,232
Re: Republicans Have a Choice to Make Post-Trump, They’d Best Choose Wisely
« Reply #10 on: January 12, 2021, 10:56:04 AM »
I'd prefer a populist who can control his emotions.

So you'd ditch Patton because he slapped a soldier?

Online dfwgator

  • Hero Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 15,232
Re: Republicans Have a Choice to Make Post-Trump, They’d Best Choose Wisely
« Reply #11 on: January 12, 2021, 10:57:50 AM »
I'd prefer a populist who can control his emotions.

You may see it differently, I think Trump controls his emotions just fine,  a lot of it is calculated to elicit certain responses.   

 

Offline catfish1957

  • Pedo Joe Will Never Be My President
  • Cat Mod
  • *****
  • Posts: 15,240
  • Gender: Male
Re: Republicans Have a Choice to Make Post-Trump, They’d Best Choose Wisely
« Reply #12 on: January 12, 2021, 10:59:05 AM »
When you find one who has the balls Trump does, let me know.

Last one (RWR) left politics left office 32 years ago.  That breed of elephant doesn't exist anymore.   Out the door with a kinder, gentler pachyderm.
I display the Confederate Battle Flag in honor of my great great great grandfathers who spilled blood at Wilson's Creek and Shiloh.  5 others served in the WBTS with honor too.

Online HoustonSam

  • "That'll be the day......"
  • Hero Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 1,267
  • Gender: Male
  • old times there are not forgotten
Re: Republicans Have a Choice to Make Post-Trump, They’d Best Choose Wisely
« Reply #13 on: January 12, 2021, 11:08:18 AM »
I'd prefer a populist who can control his emotions.

Well stated.

The R establishment needs to be honest that their rank-and-file have given them a failing grade and demand more assertive, unapologetic leadership toward a working-class, main-street America-First platform.  If R voters can't trust R officials to stand up for R voters, how can R voters trust those R officials to stand up for the country?

The R rank-and-file needs to be honest that a political leader's temperament is the first thing people see and the thing that most conditions people's assessment of that leader.  We might like someone who behaves like an ass, but that doesn't mean the country at large will confirm our choice.

Trump alone deserves credit for putting illegal immigration, middle-class job loss due to globalization, and strangling regulatory bureaucracy front-and-center; this added millions to the R voting rolls, unleashed a tremendous economic boom, and kept US military people out of additional never-ending campaigns.  Trump alone deserves blame for allowing his narcissism and ego to alienate large numbers of people on both sides of the aisle and to eclipse his administration's accomplishments; this mobilized the largest and most intense resistance in history against him, and against us.

The R party needs leaders who carry forward without apology the issues Trump advocated, and who can communicate clearly and behave like adults who care about more than their own ego.
James 1:20

Offline skeeter

  • Hero Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 22,169
  • Gender: Male
Re: Republicans Have a Choice to Make Post-Trump, They’d Best Choose Wisely
« Reply #14 on: January 12, 2021, 11:12:23 AM »
You may see it differently, I think Trump controls his emotions just fine,  a lot of it is calculated to elicit certain responses.

People have GOT to stop swallowing the media narrative.

Offline catfish1957

  • Pedo Joe Will Never Be My President
  • Cat Mod
  • *****
  • Posts: 15,240
  • Gender: Male
Re: Republicans Have a Choice to Make Post-Trump, They’d Best Choose Wisely
« Reply #15 on: January 12, 2021, 11:16:29 AM »
People have GOT to stop swallowing the media narrative.

Exactly.  For quite a while now, I assume ALL and EVERYTHING the MSM conveys is a lie....   then work up from there.
I display the Confederate Battle Flag in honor of my great great great grandfathers who spilled blood at Wilson's Creek and Shiloh.  5 others served in the WBTS with honor too.

Offline andy58-in-nh

  • Hero Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 8,029
  • Gender: Male
Re: Republicans Have a Choice to Make Post-Trump, They’d Best Choose Wisely
« Reply #16 on: January 12, 2021, 11:17:41 AM »
So you'd ditch Patton because he slapped a soldier?

Well...Trump's not a general, and we are not at war.

Patton still got a reprimand from Eisenhower, who reminded him of his duties. Then, properly chastised: he kicked the Nazis' asses.

As President, Trump frequently damaged his own effectiveness by giving in to verbal excess, hyperbole and distortion, and he did so at the slightest provocation.  I think that hurt him, especially with large numbers of suburban and independent voters. Yes, there was cheating by Democrats, but what sank Trump in the end, was his own mouth and Twitterfingers. 

The last thing the GOP needs is a return to domination by Beltway Globalist Lifers who cower in fear of Democrats and get us into stupid, endless wars.  But I truly think we can do better than what we've had.
To hell with every single one of these bastards who are creating a moral permission slip for anarchists and other criminals and thugs to destroy our country as we know it.

- Rich Lowry, National Review

Online dfwgator

  • Hero Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 15,232
Re: Republicans Have a Choice to Make Post-Trump, They’d Best Choose Wisely
« Reply #17 on: January 12, 2021, 11:19:42 AM »
  But I truly think we can do better than what we've had.

Well let me know when someone steps up.  Trump basically is giving up his fortune for this.

Online cato potatoe

  • Hero Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 1,801
  • Gender: Male
Re: Republicans Have a Choice to Make Post-Trump, They’d Best Choose Wisely
« Reply #18 on: January 12, 2021, 11:23:23 AM »
The only “incorporating” that’s to be done will involve folks like Cheney/Romney/Bush and others of the establishment ilk being incorporated into a GOP that reflects and fights hard for Trumps MAGA agenda...America first being the mantra. As for political instincts, Trump has more of them than any leader in our lifetime. He does, admittedly lack tact and discipline, but what’s needed is Jacksonian fire, not Bush wimpism. The Cheney/NT folks had best accept that this party will not be conceding itself to the old establishment Repubs...they can still board the Trump train, or just openly go Dem rather than covertly doing so (as they do now).

Romney, Kasich et al. still represent a critical number of voters in the suburbs.  There just aren't enough right-leaning populists to form a majority.  Any successful nominee will have to make the establishment comfortable enough to tolerate his/her candidacy, and the populists need motivation to turn out.  I don't buy into the apocalyptic predictions we have heard since last week ... but the GOP has a steep hill to climb.

Offline catfish1957

  • Pedo Joe Will Never Be My President
  • Cat Mod
  • *****
  • Posts: 15,240
  • Gender: Male
Re: Republicans Have a Choice to Make Post-Trump, They’d Best Choose Wisely
« Reply #19 on: January 12, 2021, 11:24:47 AM »
Well let me know when someone steps up.  Trump basically is giving up his fortune for this.

If we have learned anything in the past 4 years, is the deep state has killed any chance of a Joe Q Public ever reaching the presidency again
I display the Confederate Battle Flag in honor of my great great great grandfathers who spilled blood at Wilson's Creek and Shiloh.  5 others served in the WBTS with honor too.

Online dfwgator

  • Hero Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 15,232
Re: Republicans Have a Choice to Make Post-Trump, They’d Best Choose Wisely
« Reply #20 on: January 12, 2021, 11:27:14 AM »
Romney, Kasich et al. still represent a critical number of voters in the suburbs.  There just aren't enough right-leaning populists to form a majority.  Any successful nominee will have to make the establishment comfortable enough to tolerate his/her candidacy, and the populists need motivation to turn out.  I don't buy into the apocalyptic predictions we have heard since last week ... but the GOP has a steep hill to climb.
What's the point then,  they are no better than Democrats.

Offline catfish1957

  • Pedo Joe Will Never Be My President
  • Cat Mod
  • *****
  • Posts: 15,240
  • Gender: Male
Re: Republicans Have a Choice to Make Post-Trump, They’d Best Choose Wisely
« Reply #21 on: January 12, 2021, 11:28:52 AM »
Romney, Kasich et al. still represent a critical number of voters in the suburbs.  There just aren't enough right-leaning populists to form a majority.  Any successful nominee will have to make the establishment comfortable enough to tolerate his/her candidacy, and the populists need motivation to turn out.  I don't buy into the apocalyptic predictions we have heard since last week ... but the GOP has a steep hill to climb.

???

Dim DHS are already trying to label Hawley and Cruz terrorist, and add them to the No Fly List.  We just had the entire head of ABC News say there needs to be "Idelogical Cleansing" of the right. Another widley followed left wing pundit, is clamoring for deprograming of Trump supporters.

You can put your big ostrich head in the sand.  Others of us are watching a little closer.
I display the Confederate Battle Flag in honor of my great great great grandfathers who spilled blood at Wilson's Creek and Shiloh.  5 others served in the WBTS with honor too.

Online cato potatoe

  • Hero Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 1,801
  • Gender: Male
Re: Republicans Have a Choice to Make Post-Trump, They’d Best Choose Wisely
« Reply #22 on: January 12, 2021, 11:43:26 AM »
???

Dim DHS are already trying to label Hawley and Cruz terrorist, and add them to the No Fly List.  We just had the entire head of ABC News say there needs to be "Idelogical Cleansing" of the right. Another widley followed left wing pundit, is clamoring for deprograming of Trump supporters.

You can put your big ostrich head in the sand.  Others of us are watching a little closer.

Sounds like a major overstep, for which the left will be punished.  Otherwise we all need to consider emigration.  I am confident last week's events are going to fade from the news cycle.  There will be another set of BLM riots, or some insane controversy du jour to reset our perspective. 

Offline catfish1957

  • Pedo Joe Will Never Be My President
  • Cat Mod
  • *****
  • Posts: 15,240
  • Gender: Male
Re: Republicans Have a Choice to Make Post-Trump, They’d Best Choose Wisely
« Reply #23 on: January 12, 2021, 11:53:48 AM »
Sounds like a major overstep, for which the left will be punished.  Otherwise we all need to consider emigration.  I am confident last week's events are going to fade from the news cycle.  There will be another set of BLM riots, or some insane controversy du jour to reset our perspective.

Thanks..  thoughtful response.  One question though...  When was the last time someone from the left was punished for anything.
I display the Confederate Battle Flag in honor of my great great great grandfathers who spilled blood at Wilson's Creek and Shiloh.  5 others served in the WBTS with honor too.

Offline Sighlass

  • Hero Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 3,768
  • Didn't vote for McCain, Romney or Trump. You?
Re: Republicans Have a Choice to Make Post-Trump, They’d Best Choose Wisely
« Reply #24 on: January 12, 2021, 12:19:01 PM »
If the only choice Republicans have is between a Beltway globalist and a populist with the emotional intelligence of a toddler, they've got big problems.

Glad to see not everyone here has drank the kool-aid. QFT
Older men are to be temperate, dignified, self controlled, and sound in faith, love and perseverance. - Titus 2:2


Share me

Digg  Facebook  SlashDot  Delicious  Technorati  Twitter  Google  Yahoo
Smf