Cruz leads additional GOP Senators in objecting to the EV count

[HoustonSam]

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/gop-senators-cruz-electoral-college-certification-audit

A coalition of GOP senators and senators-elect, led by Sen. Ted Cruz, will object to the Jan. 6 certification of the presidential election results when a joint session of Congress meets next week unless there is an emergency 10-day audit of the results by an electoral commission.


Cruz -- along with Sens. Ron Johnson, R-Wis.; James Lankford, R-Okla.; Steve Daines, R-Mont.; John Kennedy, R-La.; Marsha Blackburn, R-Tenn., and Mike Braun, R-Ind.; as well as Sens.-elect Cynthia Lummis, R-Wyo.; Roger Marshall, R-Kansas; Bill Hagerty, R-Tenn., and Tommy Tuberville, R-Ala. -- say that the election "featured unprecedented allegations of voter fraud and illegal conduct."

Their effort is separate from one announced by Sen. Josh Hawley, R-Mo., who said this week that he would object to what he said was the failure of some states -- most notably Pennsylvania -- to follow their own election laws.

About a dozen all together it appears.

[kevindavis007]

In 2024, if the Democrats will control Congress, and not one of them will certify election results should they not win the presidency. Just saying.

[skeeter]

I was hoping we’d hear from Ted.

[skeeter]

In 2024, if the Democrats will control Congress, and not one of them will certify election results should they not win the presidency. Just saying.

and we certify the results this time they’ll just cheat again next time.

face it the system is broken, the rats broke it. Our only other alternative is to roll over and accept our overlords.

[HoustonSam]

In 2024, if the Democrats will control Congress, and not one of them will certify election results should they not win the presidency. Just saying.

Ds cheat, period.  They always have and they always will.  That doesn't justify Rs ignoring plain fraud and the Constitutional mechanisms to confront it.  If the evidence of fraud we've all seen is inadequate to push the Rs to respond because of the likelihood that Ds will abuse those mechanisms in the future, then the mechanisms themselves should be repealed.

Frustration with a party that refuses to stand up for its constituents is what made Trump the 2016 nominee to begin with; I'm glad to see that some of the Rs seem to have learned that lesson.

[Cyber Liberty]

Impossible.  I keep hearing Ted Cruz is cowering under his desk with the Commie Chinese.

[jmyrlefuller]

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/gop-senators-cruz-electoral-college-certification-audit

About a dozen all together it appears.

"Handful of Senators don't pass legislation" (Barry McGuire)

[RetBobbyMI]

IF, BIG IF, by chance they do establish an Electoral Commission in the same model as the past, it would 5 members of the House, 5 Senators and 5 Supreme court Justices.
House = 3 Ds / 2 Rs
Senate= 3 Rs / 2 Ds
SCOTUS= ????? <- the wild card with corrupted Roberts in charge.

[catfish1957]

aka....  (12 vs 38) The RINO line of demarcation.

[dfwgator]

In 2024, if the Democrats will control Congress, and not one of them will certify election results should they not win the presidency. Just saying.

The Democrats objected to the last three GOP wins.   A little tidbit they never bother mentioning.

[catfish1957]

The Democrats objected to the last three GOP wins.   A little tidbit they never bother mentioning.

And the MSM is on a 24/7 crusade to paint anyone claiming any fraud to be mad......

[HoustonSam]

aka....  (12 vs 38) The RINO line of demarcation.

Biden will still be inaugurated; there aren't enough to have the contentious EVs from PA, GA, MI, WI, and AZ DQ'd.  But maybe enough to clarify for the R establishment that if they aren't willing to go down swinging for meaningful elections, then we will no longer require their services.  And they might also dispel the myth that "there's only one man willing to fight."

[bilo]

In 2024, if the Democrats will control Congress, and not one of them will certify election results should they not win the presidency. Just saying.

Do you believe there will be an honest fair election in 2024 for POTUS?

[bilo]

Ds cheat, period.  They always have and they always will.  That doesn't justify Rs ignoring plain fraud and the Constitutional mechanisms to confront it.  If the evidence of fraud we've all seen is inadequate to push the Rs to respond because of the likelihood that Ds will abuse those mechanisms in the future, then the mechanisms themselves should be repealed.

Frustration with a party that refuses to stand up for its constituents is what made Trump the 2016 nominee to begin with; I'm glad to see that some of the Rs seem to have learned that lesson.

As is usually the case Cruz proposes a real solution and the establishment Pubs will ignore it. The Pub party will steadily decline after this election is certified. Election fraud will be one factor in the Pub decline, but not the only reason. The other factors will be Rats controlling the court, the Rats adding Rat dominated States, and America First voters not coming out to vote for Pubs.

After all why vote for someone who won't fight for you when it matters. 

[Right_in_Virginia]

Cruz -- along with Sens. Ron Johnson, R-Wis.; James Lankford, R-Okla.; Steve Daines, R-Mont.; John Kennedy, R-La.; Marsha Blackburn, R-Tenn., and Mike Braun, R-Ind.; as well as Sens.-elect Cynthia Lummis, R-Wyo.; Roger Marshall, R-Kansas; Bill Hagerty, R-Tenn., and Tommy Tuberville, R-Ala. -- say that the election "featured unprecedented allegations of voter fraud and illegal conduct."

Where are the esteemed senators from Georgia?

[Right_in_Virginia]

In 2024, if the Democrats will control Congress, and not one of them will certify election results should they not win the presidency. Just saying.

Are you saying we should play nice now and give the democrats their steal so they'll play nice with us in 2024?  Seriously?

Edited to add:  @kevindavis

[HoustonSam]

Are you saying we should play nice now and give the democrats their steal so they'll play nice with us in 2024?  Seriously?

Well-stated @Right_in_Virginia, this succinctly captures the argument.

[Right_in_Virginia]

FTA

"We should follow that precedent. To wit, Congress should immediately appoint an Electoral Commission, with full investigatory and fact-finding authority, to conduct an emergency 10-day audit of the election returns in the disputed states. Once completed, individual states would evaluate the Commission’s findings and could convene a special legislative session to certify a change in their vote, if needed."

If that doesn't happen, the senators intend to vote against certification.

"Accordingly, we intend to vote on January 6 to reject the electors from disputed states as not ‘regularly given’ and ‘lawfully certified’ (the statutory requisite), unless and until that emergency 10-day audit is completed," they said in the statement.

[bilo]

FTA

It's this kind of clear thinking and solid proposals that made me a strong Cruz supporter. He's offering a rational approach to resolving an existential threat to the Republic.

I'm praying that Trump and Cruz can get together after this election is officially stolen and figure out the best path forward. I think they are both smart enough to see that the Republic will be lost after the Rats steal GA. again.

[Right_in_Virginia]

Emerald Robinson
@EmeraldRobinson

The Right is now pressuring and protesting GOP leadership to defend President Trump.

Mitch McConnell & the GOP establishment have a real revolt to deal with now.


1:26 PM · Jan 2, 2021·Twitter for iPhone

https://twitter.com/EmeraldRobinson/status/1345436234123005957

[Right_in_Virginia]

Well-stated @Right_in_Virginia, this succinctly captures the argument.

   @HoustonSam

[libertybele]

In 2024, if the Democrats will control Congress, and not one of them will certify election results should they not win the presidency. Just saying.

IF we allow the left to steal this election and get away with the blatant fraud and corruption it's not going to make a dang bit of difference.

[libertybele]

Emerald Robinson
@EmeraldRobinson

The Right is now pressuring and protesting GOP leadership to defend President Trump.

Mitch McConnell & the GOP establishment have a real revolt to deal with now.


1:26 PM · Jan 2, 2021·Twitter for iPhone

https://twitter.com/EmeraldRobinson/status/1345436234123005957

Gee...where's Rubio??  Where's Graham?  Every dang GOP Senator should be on team Trump!!!

Well, IMHO the revolt that they are going to see in the Senate is nothing compared to the revolt that they're going to see in the streets.

[libertybele]

It's this kind of clear thinking and solid proposals that made me a strong Cruz supporter. He's offering a rational approach to resolving an existential threat to the Republic.

I'm praying that Trump and Cruz can get together after this election is officially stolen and figure out the best path forward. I think they are both smart enough to see that the Republic will be lost after the Rats steal GA. again.

I would like to think that Cruz and others will have an impact to save this election (doubtful I know).

Since Cruz lost in his bid for the presidency I have always thought that Trump and Cruz would undoubtedly make an unstoppable and unbeatable team.  IF they do decide to ban together, I hope that Trump becomes unleashed and unrestrained ... Cruz I hope so to, but he has two daughters, so, I'm not sure of what's going to happen. 

Would I follow both of them to fight for this country?  Without hesitation!

[HoustonSam]

Emerald Robinson
@EmeraldRobinson
The Right is now pressuring and protesting GOP leadership to defend President Trump.

No.  Cruz and co are not defending Trump.  Their press release is not about Trump.  They are defending the credibility of American elections.  The R establishment is not going to defend Trump; perhaps they should, but they won't.  They detest him.  If this effort is branded as yet another part of the Trump phenomenon there is no way the R party will unite behind it.

Mitch McConnell & the GOP establishment have a real revolt to deal with now.

McConnell, Cornyn, and the rest of them must be made to understand that this is about elections, not about Trump; that their constituencies have been harmed by the procedures followed in PA and other states during this election; and if they don't get on board the effort to preserve credible elections they'll be primaried.

They might not be able to win this one, but they damn sure better fight.

If they don't fight this then they're telling us that it's OK for PA to have 200,000 completely fictitious "votes" included in its final tally; that it's OK for GA to send the poll watchers home and then immediately break out additional cases of ballots to continue counting with no oversight; that it's OK for precincts and counties to report 99% of their votes for one candidate during the wee hours of the morning.

By all means the R establishment needs to feel the wrath of the R voters, but that establishment simply will not get behind an attempt to rescue Trump.  It doesn't matter whether they should, they won't.  This cannot be about Trump if it's going to have a chance of uniting significant numbers of R office holders.  It must be about elections.