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Offline Hoodat

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13 people died during Moderna’s COVID vaccine trial
« on: December 22, 2020, 07:04:49 am »
13 people died during Moderna’s COVID vaccine trial

The evidence presented listed 13 deaths in the trials, with 6 deaths being people who had taken the vaccine, and 7 those who had received the placebo.

Michael Haynes   |   Mon Dec 21, 2020 - 6:51 pm EST

WASHINGTON, D.C, December 21, 2020 (LifeSiteNews) — Official documents from the U.S Food and Drug Administration (FDA) record that 13 people died during trials of the Moderna vaccine, while the FDA has also issued a new warning regarding Bell’s Palsy as a potential effect of the vaccine.

A sponsor briefing document prepared for the Vaccines and Related Biological Products Advisory Committee (VRBPAC) recorded the various outcomes on participants in the Moderna vaccine trial, listing the effects of those who had received the vaccine and those who had taken the placebo.

The evidence presented listed 13 deaths in the trials, with 6 deaths being people who had taken the vaccine, and 7 those who had received the placebo. Results were correct up until December 3.

An FDA briefing presentation provided a breakdown of those who died. Of those in the vaccine group who had died, one was a 78-year-old who suffered “cardiac arrest 21 days after dose 1”; a 77-year-old  .  .  .

https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/13-people-died-during-modernas-covid-vaccine-trial



I think there were over 27,000 in the test group.  So 13 would be 0.05%, which is higher than the fatality rate from contracting SARS-2 for some age groups.

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Re: 13 people died during Moderna’s COVID vaccine trial
« Reply #1 on: December 22, 2020, 01:22:52 pm »
...So 13 would be 0.05%, which is higher than the fatality rate from contracting SARS-2 for some age groups.

Death rate for the total population, all causes, is 0.87%.

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/deaths.htm
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Re: 13 people died during Moderna’s COVID vaccine trial
« Reply #2 on: December 22, 2020, 05:24:19 pm »
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An FDA briefing presentation provided a breakdown of those who died. Of those in the vaccine group who had died, one was a 78-year-old who suffered “cardiac arrest 21 days after dose 1”; a 77-year-old died of “[m]yocardial infarction 45 days after dose 2.” Two participants were found dead at home, and their deaths are declared to be of “uncertain” cause: a 70-year-old was found dead at home “57 days after dose 2,” and a 56-year-old was found likewise “37 days after dose 1.” However, the FDA document continues by saying that for the 56-year-old person, head trauma was given as the official cause of death.

Two more participants died from the vaccine recipient group, a 72-year-old having “multiorgan failure” 59 days after the second dose, while the last committed suicide “21 days” after the first dose. The person who had multi-organ failure was “hospitalized for thrombocytopenia and acute kidney failure due to obstructive nephrolithiasis” prior to developing “complications” that resulted in organ failure.

Out of the 7 participants who took the placebo, three died from “myocardial infarction,” one from “intra-abdominal perforation,” and another from “systemic inflammatory response syndrome in the setting of known malignancy.” Another died from “COVID-19,” and the cause of death for the last person was not known.

Moderna does not connect any of the 13 deaths to either the vaccine or the placebo, saying instead that “[t]hese deaths represent events and rates that occur in the general population of individuals in these age groups.”

The article should have noted that the decision as to whether "adverse events" (which would include deaths, obviously) are related to a vaccine or not is not made by the vaccine maker. During trials like this the trial is overseen and data from it collected and "adverse events" evaluated by an independent data and safety monitoring committee, not the vaccine maker. That committee evaluates and decides whether an "adverse event" is deemed related to the vaccine or not. The starting point in the evaluation is whether the affected person is/was in the vaccine or placebo group, because the committee does not know that unless there is cause. Non-vaccine causes like pre-existing medical conditions, falls, etc. are considered. And normal bleep-happens rates for population groups to which the affected person belonged are considered.
If, as anti-Covid-vaxxers claim, https://www.poynter.org/fact-checking/2021/robert-f-kennedy-jr-said-the-covid-19-vaccine-is-the-deadliest-vaccine-ever-made-thats-not-true/ , https://gospelnewsnetwork.org/2021/11/23/covid-shots-are-the-deadliest-vaccines-in-medical-history/ , The Vaccine is deadly, where in the US have Pfizer and Moderna hidden the millions of bodies of those who died of "vaccine injury"? Is reality a Big Pharma Shill?

Millions now living should have died. Anti-Covid-Vaxxer ghouls hardest hit.

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Re: 13 people died during Moderna’s COVID vaccine trial
« Reply #3 on: December 22, 2020, 06:11:16 pm »
The article should have noted that the decision as to whether "adverse events" (which would include deaths, obviously) are related to a vaccine or not is not made by the vaccine maker. During trials like this the trial is overseen and data from it collected and "adverse events" evaluated by an independent data and safety monitoring committee, not the vaccine maker. That committee evaluates and decides whether an "adverse event" is deemed related to the vaccine or not. The starting point in the evaluation is whether the affected person is/was in the vaccine or placebo group, because the committee does not know that unless there is cause. Non-vaccine causes like pre-existing medical conditions, falls, etc. are considered. And normal bleep-happens rates for population groups to which the affected person belonged are considered.

Hmph... you work in the industry? I work for one of the larger CRO's (Contractual research organization) in the country. We have a lot of pharmaceutical clients as customers.

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Re: 13 people died during Moderna’s COVID vaccine trial
« Reply #4 on: December 22, 2020, 07:16:20 pm »
I work in electronics. The info I posted above is readily available on the 'net.
If, as anti-Covid-vaxxers claim, https://www.poynter.org/fact-checking/2021/robert-f-kennedy-jr-said-the-covid-19-vaccine-is-the-deadliest-vaccine-ever-made-thats-not-true/ , https://gospelnewsnetwork.org/2021/11/23/covid-shots-are-the-deadliest-vaccines-in-medical-history/ , The Vaccine is deadly, where in the US have Pfizer and Moderna hidden the millions of bodies of those who died of "vaccine injury"? Is reality a Big Pharma Shill?

Millions now living should have died. Anti-Covid-Vaxxer ghouls hardest hit.