Barr: No evidence of fraud that’d change election outcome

[Absalom]

@txradioguy
My Bob is an earth scientist/physicist/geologist.  He has been an earth physics professor. He says humans cannot affect built-in universal cycles.  In his work, wherever you live, he has likely been in that area.  He was all over the earth for 30 years.

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Intuitive per usual.
While not a Scientist, many in my family are, each of whom would affirm that the Almighty created everything in the Universe, among them Nature.
Further they would affirm that the notion that Man is superior to Nature is a conceit too brainless for words.

[Cyber Liberty]

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Intuitive per usual.
While not a Scientist, many in my family are, each of whom would affirm that the Almighty created everything in the Universe, among them Nature.
Further they would affirm that the notion that Man is superior to Nature is a conceit too brainless
for words.

Apparently none of that intelligence rubbed off.  Coincidence?  "Too brainless for words" has been popping up a lot in my teeny, tiny mind lately.

[Absalom]

From RCP...
Race/Topic   (Click to Sort)   Poll   Results   Spread
Georgia Senate Run-Off Election - Perdue vs. Ossoff   WXIA-TV/SurveyUSA   Perdue 48, Ossoff 50   Ossoff +2
Georgia Senate Special Election Run-Off - Loeffler vs. Warnock   WXIA-TV/SurveyUSA   Warnock 52, Loeffler 45   Warnock +7

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After the polling performance of this election, polls should be suspect but hardly for some.
* In the Perdue /Ossoff race, Perdue won by 88,000 votes @ 49.7%
* In the Loeffler (+Collins/R ) Warnock race, she won by 636,000 votes @ 59%.
The only reason Loeffler and Purdue are not already seated in the Senate is because of Georgia's quirky 50% Rule. Your poll belongs in the garbage.

[DCPatriot]

And yet... so many (even right here at this forum) refuse to admit to or acknowledge that "what happened".

That's because they're all ardent Never Trumpers with acute terminal butt hurt who for the most part have been 'hiding' in our basement for the better part of the past 4 years here.

Now, they feel 'brave' enough to show their pig snouts seeing allied support for their ignorant hate-filled pie holes. 

[DCPatriot]

And at the exact same time.  This required national cooridination.

It's actually 4-5 Democrat-run cities/counties in said Swing States...so let's narrow it down a bit.   

[DCPatriot]

Absolutely ridiculous and asinine.

Yes, you certainly are.   

[catfish1957]

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After the polling performance of this election, polls should be suspect but hardly for some.
* In the Perdue /Ossoff race, Perdue won by 88,000 votes @ 49.7%
* In the Loeffler (+Collins/R ) Warnock race, she won by 636,000 votes @ 59%.
The only reason Loeffler and Purdue are not already seated in the Senate is because of Georgia's quirky 50% Rule. Your poll belongs in the garbage.

Not my  poll, but a non-push poll by a station in Ga.  But considering on going fraud too?  The GOP candidates are underdogs.....    But you've been wrong so many times here, I won't bother with your silliness any further....  Carry on.

[Weird Tolkienish Figure]

Yes, you certainly are.

[XenaLee]

That's because they're all ardent Never Trumpers with acute terminal butt hurt who for the most part have been 'hiding' in our basement for the better part of the past 4 years here.

Now, they feel 'brave' enough to show their pig snouts seeing allied support for their ignorant hate-filled pie holes.

Yeah..... allied with the radical left Democrats (commies).   They're showing who and 'what' they are every day in every way.   

[XenaLee]

Yes, you certainly are.

Hey!  My first instinct, when I saw his comment, was to say exactly what you said....lol.

[skeeter]

That's because they're all ardent Never Trumpers with acute terminal butt hurt who for the most part have been 'hiding' in our basement for the better part of the past 4 years here.

Now, they feel 'brave' enough to show their pig snouts seeing allied support for their ignorant hate-filled pie holes.

Yeah, one of the qualities of supposed allies that is compelling me to quit the GOP altogether and just focus on mine only. I can stand the weasels no longer.

Our last chance has exited stage left anyway.

[Smokin Joe]

I think back to 2016 and the confidence and behavior of the rats leading up to that night, Hillary neglecting to campaign in key states etc, as well as their reaction afterwards.

It all makes the theory they thought they had that race in the bag, too, but underestimated the amount of fraud required to win extremely believable.

There are remarkable similarities between that election and this election, except the COVID wrinkle and the election night stopping dumps, and restarting of tabulating in key states.

That pretty well sums it up, imho.

[Smokin Joe]

Is it coincidental that the same process seemed to play out at the same time and only in 4 or 5 key swing states?

Well, they only broke the toilet in georgia...

[Smokin Joe]

It's actually 4-5 Democrat-run cities/counties in said Swing States...so let's narrow it down a bit.   

I strongly suspect some level of fraud took place in Democrat heavy precincts in most of the country. You, regardless, still have to keep up the pretense of popularity in democrat enclaves in order to support the fraud elsewhere. It makes no difference in the electoral process, in that the electoral votes go with the state unless the City has the greater population, but it makes the support level seem to be less anomalous.

[Sighlass]

Placemarker , page 30...

[AL]

...and there you have it...that's all folks!

Yep.  Barr's in on the cheat.  Washington corruption has no limit.

[sneakypete]

I’m sure your post makes complete sense to CNN’s audience and others with no capacity for critical thought. Others might consider it a tad sophistic.

@skeeter

You misspelled the word "actual".

[sneakypete]

Because Trump, the outsider, had only the GOPe and deep state beltway denizens to choose from and depend upon. He was screwed from the outset. I’m amazed he did as well as he did.

@skeeter

And there it is.

Trump is not a career politician,and you can NOT run a Presidency like you run a corporation because unlike businesses,politicians have an entire media network established to stab you in the back and spin even your victories into defeats.

It is impossible to come in as a political outsider,and select the "insider pros" you need to cover your back because they have made whole careers out of covering no one's backs but their own.

[skeeter]

@skeeter

You misspelled the word "actual".

[GtHawk]

SHIITE! And I thought wrestling when I was a kid was ridiculous, seeing what they do now makes me long for the days of wrestling at the Olympic Auditorium with Dick Lane(after his film career) Johnny 'Red Shoes' Dugan and Freddie Blassie, John Tolos, Earl Maynard Mr. Universe, Man Mountain Mike and the like.

[Right_in_Virginia]

Judge Jeanine had a few things to say to Mr. Barr.  Watch at least her opening statement. 


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[IsailedawayfromFR]

SHIITE! And I thought wrestling when I was a kid was ridiculous, seeing what they do now makes me long for the days of wrestling at the Olympic Auditorium with Dick Lane(after his film career) Johnny 'Red Shoes' Dugan and Freddie Blassie, John Tolos, Earl Maynard Mr. Universe, Man Mountain Mike and the like.

It was Ernie Ladd of NFL fame, and Tony Borne for me at the old Austin Coliseum.  Had a guest bear wrestle as well at times.

[Jazzhead]

@Jazzhead

It's hard for some to admit someone they put all their hopes behind had some serious character and behavior problems that cost him the election. My wife is convinced trump lost because of fraud. Not that I don't believe folks may have some legitimate questions regarding the election. But yes, if voter fraud was the reason why Trump lost then why did they "allow" the GOP to do well downticket in a year that, on paper, was going to be a tough one for the GOP?

Well of course.   The fraud didn't extend down ballot?   That's absurd on its face.

But let's back up a bit.  AG Barr didn't say there wasn't any fraud; indeed there may have been substantial fraud.  Nor did he say that the Justice Department was wrapping up its investigation.  What he said was,  almost a month following the election,  that there was no evidence of fraud at the kind of level that would change the results of the election.

In other words, it is time to accept reality.  Or,  I guess, one of two versions of reality.

The American tradition has long been to accept the results of the election as the verdict of the people,  a force,  polity,  greater than the tribal concerns of the parties.    Keep up the fight, but on the new battleground established by the results of the election.  After all,  the situation may well be reversed in two or four years.   

The new, subversive tradition was established by Stacey Abrams.    Never concede, never acknowledge the outcome of the vote,  and claim that the peoples' verdict was illegitimate and unworthy of respect.   Now Trump is following that playbook to the letter, with the same poisonous results, the same subversion of faith and confidence in democratic norms.   

I think all of us will likely agree that Abrams'  play was that of a selfish scumbag,  both dangerous and destructive of the fabric the holds our  polyglot nation together.   But only a handful here will say the same of the President,  and indeed will admonish the few of who do as disloyal to the tribe.

My loyalty is to the Republic, not Donald Trump.   If that's not you as well  then you ought to think long and hard of the consequences of such naked hypocrisy.   

[IsailedawayfromFR]

Well of course.   The fraud didn't extend down ballot?   That's absurd on its face.

But let's back up a bit.  AG Barr didn't say there wasn't any fraud; indeed there may have been substantial fraud.  Nor did he say that the Justice Department was wrapping up its investigation.  What he said was,  almost a month following the election,  that there was no evidence of fraud at the kind of level that would change the results of the election.

In other words, it is time to accept reality.  Or,  I guess, one of two versions of reality.

The American tradition has long been to accept the results of the election as the verdict of the people,  a force,  polity,  greater than the tribal concerns of the parties.    Keep up the fight, but on the new battleground established by the results of the election.  After all,  the situation may well be reversed in two or four years.   

The new, subversive tradition was established by Stacey Abrams.    Never concede, never acknowledge the outcome of the vote,  and claim that the peoples' verdict was illegitimate and unworthy of respect.   Now Trump is following that playbook to the letter, with the same poisonous results, the same subversion of faith and confidence in democratic norms.   

I think all of us will likely agree that Abrams'  play was that of a selfish scumbag,  both dangerous and destructive of the fabric the holds our  polyglot nation together.   But only a handful here will say the same of the President,  and indeed will admonish the few of who do as disloyal to the tribe.

My loyalty is to the Republic, not Donald Trump.   If that's not you as well  then you ought to think long and hard of the consequences of such naked hypocrisy.   

You conveniently forgot this part

"To date, we have not seen fraud on a scale that could have effected a different outcome in the election," Barr told The Associated Press.

[skeeter]

Well of course.   The fraud didn't extend down ballot?   That's absurd on its face.

But let's back up a bit.  AG Barr didn't say there wasn't any fraud; indeed there may have been substantial fraud.  Nor did he say that the Justice Department was wrapping up its investigation.  What he said was,  almost a month following the election,  that there was no evidence of fraud at the kind of level that would change the results of the election.

In other words, it is time to accept reality.  Or,  I guess, one of two versions of reality.

The American tradition has long been to accept the results of the election as the verdict of the people,  a force,  polity,  greater than the tribal concerns of the parties.    Keep up the fight, but on the new battleground established by the results of the election.  After all,  the situation may well be reversed in two or four years.   

The new, subversive tradition was established by Stacey Abrams.    Never concede, never acknowledge the outcome of the vote,  and claim that the peoples' verdict was illegitimate and unworthy of respect.   Now Trump is following that playbook to the letter, with the same poisonous results, the same subversion of faith and confidence in democratic norms.   

I think all of us will likely agree that Abrams'  play was that of a selfish scumbag,  both dangerous and destructive of the fabric the holds our  polyglot nation together.   But only a handful here will say the same of the President,  and indeed will admonish the few of who do as disloyal to the tribe.

My loyalty is to the Republic, not Donald Trump.   If that's not you as well  then you ought to think long and hard of the consequences of such naked hypocrisy.   

If you have no fealty to the truth your loyalty is worthless. Ponder that.