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Re: Barr: No evidence of fraud that’d change election outcome
« Reply #50 on: December 01, 2020, 11:05:42 pm »
Quote from: skeeter on December 01, 2020, 10:31:01 pm
Sigh. Trump was popular simply because he tried to deliver what the base has been asking for from the GOPe for decades. What the GOPe promised and never delivered. Trump made the attempt - sometimes succeeding, others times not.

As long as you believe it's a 'cult' thing you'll never get it.

And if you think with Trump out of the way the GOPe will now pursue what you call 'Trumpism' you are irretrievably naive or just plain dishonest.

I do get it, @skeeter.   I do get Trump's "he fights" appeal.   And I'm sorry about the "cult" thing, but I'm angry at too many Trumpsters' penchant for paranoia, negativism and, ultimately, self destruction.  AG Barr,  whose loyalty to Trump and the Republic should be unquestioned, spoke the truth today - whatever fraud there was didn't rise to a level that would change the election.  That is a hard truth,  but it is best that it be swallowed,  because unless we focus, the loss of Senate will crush us,  not to mention Trump personally.     
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Re: Barr: No evidence of fraud that’d change election outcome
« Reply #51 on: December 01, 2020, 11:10:09 pm »
Quote from: Jazzhead on December 01, 2020, 11:05:42 pm
I do get it, @skeeter.   I do get Trump's "he fights" appeal.   And I'm sorry about the "cult" thing, but I'm angry at too many Trumpsters' penchant for paranoia, negativism and, ultimately, self destruction.  AG Barr,  whose loyalty to Trump and the Republic should be unquestioned, spoke the truth today - whatever fraud there was didn't rise to a level that would change the election.  That is a hard truth,  but it is best that it be swallowed,  because unless we focus, the loss of Senate will crush us,  not to mention Trump personally.   

It damned sure as hell does rise to the level that SHOULD prove that Biden LOST... and bigly.   Anyone not willing to admit or recognize that reality is stuckonstupid and/or a partisan hack for the commie left that is in on or A-OK with this election theft attempt.

Just.... sayin.

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Re: Barr: No evidence of fraud that’d change election outcome
« Reply #52 on: December 01, 2020, 11:11:26 pm »
Quote from: dfwgator on December 01, 2020, 10:56:22 pm
How do you propose to do that?

Of course there can be Trumpism without the Trump.   That is, unless you don't think Trump's policies are meritorious enough to stand on their own.   Or unlessyou don't think Trump supporters are willing to consider their self-interest beyond their devotion to the man.   
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Re: Barr: No evidence of fraud that’d change election outcome
« Reply #53 on: December 01, 2020, 11:13:18 pm »
Quote from: skeeter on December 01, 2020, 10:14:48 pm
The attitude of the GOP's base has changed. I know mine has.

My attitude is I will NEVER vote for someone who isn't a conservative and will not support anyone who isn't a Constitutional conservative -- both are few and few between.

I find it deeply troubling that no one from the GOP, including Cruz has stood up and cried foul.  Cruz stated that he saw a pathway to Trump overturning this election, but that's it.  Perhaps he came forward to offer his expertise and maybe was told "no" or perhaps he saw that Trump tapped Giuliani for the win ... but everyone else has for the most part remained silent.

The GOP is done.
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Re: Barr: No evidence of fraud that’d change election outcome
« Reply #54 on: December 01, 2020, 11:13:40 pm »
Quote from: Jazzhead on December 01, 2020, 11:05:42 pm
I do get it, @skeeter.   I do get Trump's "he fights" appeal.   And I'm sorry about the "cult" thing, but I'm angry at too many Trumpsters' penchant for paranoia, negativism and, ultimately, self destruction.  AG Barr,  whose loyalty to Trump and the Republic should be unquestioned, spoke the truth today - whatever fraud there was didn't rise to a level that would change the election.  That is a hard truth,  but it is best that it be swallowed,  because unless we focus, the loss of Senate will crush us,  not to mention Trump personally.   
Nah, you don't get it.  In fact you still have no clue. Your above two posts prove it.
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Re: Barr: No evidence of fraud that’d change election outcome
« Reply #55 on: December 01, 2020, 11:18:01 pm »
Quote from: Jazzhead on December 01, 2020, 11:11:26 pm
You don't think Trump's policies are meritorious enough to stand on their own?   Or is it you don't think Trump supporters can think beyond their devotion to the man?

Trumps economy is the only thing he has going for him but its obviously the one you want.  The low interest rates along with deregulation and lower taxes proved a lot of people wrong.  But he had a million other negatives that will ultimately drag down the party if it stuck with him.

With Trump gone, a normal person can take the mantle of the party.  Say thanks for the roadmap that shows full employment is not 4.5 percent, thanks for shedding light on the feds need to go back to school on rate setting.

But like Churchill was voted out after ww2, trump has already doled out any positive thing he could have. 
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Re: Barr: No evidence of fraud that’d change election outcome
« Reply #56 on: December 01, 2020, 11:20:00 pm »
Quote from: skeeter on December 01, 2020, 11:13:40 pm
Nah, you don't get it.  In fact you still have no clue. Your above two posts prove it.

He gets it @skeeter   He just hates it.
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Re: Barr: No evidence of fraud that’d change election outcome
« Reply #57 on: December 01, 2020, 11:22:18 pm »
Quote from: Jazzhead on December 01, 2020, 11:05:42 pm
I'm angry at too many Trumpsters' penchant for paranoia, negativism and, ultimately, self destruction.

And I'm angry at too many so-called Republicans who are willing to turn a blind eye to massive election fraud simply because they don't like Trump.  The future of our Republic is at stake here - not Trump.
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Re: Barr: No evidence of fraud that’d change election outcome
« Reply #58 on: December 01, 2020, 11:23:38 pm »
Quote from: Hoodat on December 01, 2020, 11:22:18 pm
And I'm angry at too many so-called Republicans who are willing to turn a blind eye to massive election fraud simply because they don't like Trump.  The future of our Republic is at stake here - not Trump.

Would you take a bet they'll be back here, like clockwork, blaming Trump & Trumpers when the rats steal those two GA seats.
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Re: Barr: No evidence of fraud that’d change election outcome
« Reply #59 on: December 01, 2020, 11:24:26 pm »
Quote from: libertybele on December 01, 2020, 11:13:18 pm
My attitude is I will NEVER vote for someone who isn't a conservative and will not support anyone who isn't a Constitutional conservative -- both are few and few between.

I find it deeply troubling that no one from the GOP, including Cruz has stood up and cried foul.  Cruz stated that he saw a pathway to Trump overturning this election, but that's it.  Perhaps he came forward to offer his expertise and maybe was told "no" or perhaps he saw that Trump tapped Giuliani for the win ... but everyone else has for the most part remained silent.

The GOP is done.

It's done because of folks like you.   If you won't vote for GOP candidates unless they pass your self-defined litmus test which you assure us is "few and far between",  then how the hell can you criticize folks who declined to vote for Trump?   

At least my litmus test takes in GOP candidates from all walks of center-right life.   No,  I couldn't vote for a man who treated the Resolute Desk like a prop in a reality show,  but that's just one man.  Otherwise,  I voted straight GOP,  like I've always done. 

I'm not leaving the Party or starting a pity party because the GOP nationally turned back the progressive tide.   Yes,  Trump lost,  and I have no illusions that Joe Biden will be far FAR worse from the standpoint of policy.  I wish there had been a better choice,  where the progress we've made as a nation these last four years would have resulted in a landslide.    But Trump's flaws prevented that,  and even as he garnered a hitherto unmatched number of votes,  six miilion more rose up to declare they were sick and tired of it all. 
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Re: Barr: No evidence of fraud that’d change election outcome
« Reply #60 on: December 01, 2020, 11:24:32 pm »
Quote from: Jazzhead on December 01, 2020, 11:05:42 pm
- whatever fraud there was didn't rise to a level that would change the election.

So you're OK with the fact that your own county has more registered voters than it has people eligible to vote.
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Re: Barr: No evidence of fraud that’d change election outcome
« Reply #61 on: December 01, 2020, 11:28:02 pm »
Quote from: skeeter on December 01, 2020, 11:23:38 pm
Would you take a bet they'll be back here, like clockwork, blaming Trump & Trumpers when the rats steal those two GA seats.

That is a certainty.  I'm anticipating a minimum of 3 million votes for the Dem candidates next month since the Governor and Secretary of State have already tipped them off that there will be no signature checks on mail-in ballots.
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Re: Barr: No evidence of fraud that’d change election outcome
« Reply #62 on: December 01, 2020, 11:28:37 pm »
Quote from: Hoodat on December 01, 2020, 11:24:32 pm
So you're OK with the fact that your own county has more registered voters than it has people eligible to vote.

Citation, please.  What frosts me about Montgomery County is that support for the GOP simply collapsed this year.  Not because of fraud.  Because of Trump.   
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Re: Barr: No evidence of fraud that’d change election outcome
« Reply #63 on: December 01, 2020, 11:31:53 pm »
Quote from: Jazzhead on December 01, 2020, 11:05:42 pm
I do get it, @skeeter.   I do get Trump's "he fights" appeal.   And I'm sorry about the "cult" thing, but I'm angry at too many Trumpsters' penchant for paranoia, negativism and, ultimately, self destruction.  AG Barr,  whose loyalty to Trump and the Republic should be unquestioned, spoke the truth today - whatever fraud there was didn't rise to a level that would change the election.  That is a hard truth,  but it is best that it be swallowed,  because unless we focus, the loss of Senate will crush us,  not to mention Trump personally.   

Barr's loyalty to Trump and the Republic?  Sorry, but IMHO I never saw his loyalty to Trump his loyalty has been to the deep state all along.

As for the fraud ... seriously ... anyone who can't blatantly see the fraud needs to get a grasp on reality.  Glenn Beck has had on several experts who have stated that there is no way mathematically the way things stand that Biden could have won.  On Limbaugh's show, also experts who state the same.

There was blatant overwhelming fraud ... the deep state planned it that way and kept their promise of ensuring that Trump was a one term President.  Fraud is fraud.  The integrity of our election system is gone. 

The leftists and globalists will lead us into socialism and those that don't see it coming are going to be blindsided.
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Re: Barr: No evidence of fraud that’d change election outcome
« Reply #64 on: December 01, 2020, 11:32:17 pm »
Quote from: Hoodat on December 01, 2020, 11:28:02 pm
That is a certainty.  I'm anticipating a minimum of 3 million votes for the Dem candidates next month since the Governor and Secretary of State have already tipped them off that there will be no signature checks on mail-in ballots.

This is your GOPe in action preparing to lose the GA Senate race @Jazzhead   ... Why don't you dazzle us with your wisdom on this.

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Re: Barr: No evidence of fraud that’d change election outcome
« Reply #65 on: December 01, 2020, 11:33:13 pm »
Quote from: Jazzhead on December 01, 2020, 11:24:26 pm
It's done because of folks like you.   If you won't vote for GOP candidates unless they pass your self-defined litmus test which you assure us is "few and far between",  then how the hell can you criticize folks who declined to vote for Trump?

For the umpteenth time, this isn't about Republicans who didn't vote for Trump, (especially considering that 11 million MORE people voted for him in 2020 after he was a known commodity than did in 2016).  This has always been about ballot stuffing for Biden.  Stop replacing the goal posts with a soccer net.
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Re: Barr: No evidence of fraud that’d change election outcome
« Reply #66 on: December 01, 2020, 11:34:32 pm »
Quote from: Jazzhead on December 01, 2020, 11:28:37 pm
Citation, please.  What frosts me about Montgomery County is that support for the GOP simply collapsed this year.  Not because of fraud.  Because of Trump.

The GOP collapsed because of the leftists corruption.  Many people vote a straight ticket.  Don't you find it a little odd that most seats in the state the GOP won but Trump didn't?  Please.  I declare b.s.

The GOPe deserves to collapse.
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Re: Barr: No evidence of fraud that’d change election outcome
« Reply #67 on: December 01, 2020, 11:41:16 pm »
Hoodat wrote:
"That is a certainty.  I'm anticipating a minimum of 3 million votes for the Dem candidates next month since the Governor and Secretary of State have already tipped them off that there will be no signature checks on mail-in ballots."

Agreed.
Both of the Georgia Senate Republican seats are gonna be lost to the communists.

The powers-that-be down there will do nothing to constrain or reverse the "election fraud apparatus" the democrat-communists have constructed.

The apparatus worked on November 3rd.
It will work BETTER on January 5th.

Georgia has "turned blue".
Might be time to move north to Tennessee, Kentucky or West Virginia.
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Re: Barr: No evidence of fraud that’d change election outcome
« Reply #68 on: December 01, 2020, 11:41:21 pm »
Quote from: libertybele on December 01, 2020, 11:31:53 pm

There was blatant overwhelming fraud ... the deep state planned it that way and kept their promise of ensuring that Trump was a one term President.  Fraud is fraud.  The integrity of our election system is gone. 


Nonsense.  That same "fraudulent" vote may have flipped a dozen House seats Republican.

Trump lost because folks were sick and tired of the chaos. 
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Re: Barr: No evidence of fraud that’d change election outcome
« Reply #69 on: December 01, 2020, 11:43:10 pm »
Quote from: Fishrrman on December 01, 2020, 11:41:16 pm
Hoodat wrote:
"That is a certainty.  I'm anticipating a minimum of 3 million votes for the Dem candidates next month since the Governor and Secretary of State have already tipped them off that there will be no signature checks on mail-in ballots."

Agreed.
Both of the Georgia Senate Republican seats are gonna be lost to the communists.

The powers-that-be down there will do nothing to constrain or reverse the "election fraud apparatus" the democrat-communists have constructed.

It worked on November 3rd.
It will work BETTER on January 5th.

Georgia has "turned blue".
Might be time to move north to Tennessee, Kentucky or West Virginia.

The GOPe will use the occasion of the loss to try to marginalize Trump and supporters. They're already trotting out the narrative.

They've got to get rid of the populist element in the party and if it takes losing the senate majority they'll consider it worth the bargain.


IMHO
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Re: Barr: No evidence of fraud that’d change election outcome
« Reply #70 on: December 01, 2020, 11:43:43 pm »
Quote from: libertybele on December 01, 2020, 11:34:32 pm
The GOP collapsed because of the leftists corruption.  Many people vote a straight ticket.  Don't you find it a little odd that most seats in the state the GOP won but Trump didn't?  Please.  I declare b.s.

The GOPe deserves to collapse.

Fine, have it your way.   But take some flippin' responsibility.   The collapse of the Republic as you predict will be because of folks like you who demand the perfect at the expense of the good.   The GOP did just fine this year.   
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Re: Barr: No evidence of fraud that’d change election outcome
« Reply #71 on: December 01, 2020, 11:46:09 pm »
Quote from: skeeter on December 01, 2020, 11:43:10 pm
The GOPe will use the occasion of the loss to try to marginalize Trump and supporters. They're already trotting out the narrative.

They've got to get rid of the populist element in the party and if it takes losing the senate majority they'll consider it worth the bargain.


IMHO

What the hell are you talking about?   Trump's populism is here to stay in tomorrow's GOP,  unless all the butthurt whiners take their marbles and go home. 
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Re: Barr: No evidence of fraud that’d change election outcome
« Reply #72 on: December 01, 2020, 11:50:46 pm »
Quote from: Jazzhead on December 01, 2020, 11:46:09 pm
What the hell are you talking about?   Trump's populism is here to stay in tomorrow's GOP,  unless all the butthurt whiners take their marbles and go home.
lol. priceless.
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Re: Barr: No evidence of fraud that’d change election outcome
« Reply #73 on: December 01, 2020, 11:59:06 pm »
Numb nuts sure developed a habit of going flaccid when the chips were down.  He had a target rich environment to do some serious swamp cleaning, and failed miserably.

But, I am in agreement with Myst.  This pretty much shuts down any way we can get any traction on challenging  "the steal"  Really dark chapter in this country's history
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Re: Barr: No evidence of fraud that’d change election outcome
« Reply #74 on: December 02, 2020, 12:03:30 am »
Quote from: Knox27 on December 01, 2020, 08:18:40 pm
Amazing.  Cant wait to see how he will be savaged.  Truth is not welcome in a lot of parts here.

@Knox27

Hate to break it to you, but truth and perception are two distinctly different things.  There has been tons of evidence of fraud, if you cared to do any research. If you actually listened to Barr's statement he did not deny there was fraud.  In his opinion there was not "enough" fraud to overturn the election. A little intellectual honesty on your behalf would go along way to help your new rep here.
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