Who wants Trump to concede?

[Cyber Liberty]

This looks to be another one of those threads where a few disruptors come in and provoke much bickering and backbiting.

I don't play those games. I put those guys on ignore a long time ago, and they're NEVER coming off my blacklist.

But I'll repeat what I've posted earlier on this subject:
Mr. Trump should NOT "concede", per se.
Not to an "election" that was rampant with fraud and corruption.

He should comply with the requirements of the Constitution.
To wit:
He should wait until the Electoral College meets and votes on December 14th.
Then... if the vote is for biden... Mr. Trump should issue a simple statement that he "accepts the decision of the Electoral College".
And say no more than that.

And then, on the morning of January 20th, at about 11.45am he should board Air Force One and fly south to Florida...
...And leave the cheaters to themselves on the inauguration bleachers.

I'd like to see him make a wholesale dump of the O'Bastardgate docs.  The rats have been demanding he be frog-marched out of the White House right now to prevent that.  there are some Pardons due to be handed out, too.

[libertybele]

This looks to be another one of those threads where a few disruptors come in and provoke much bickering and backbiting.

I don't play those games. I put those guys on ignore a long time ago, and they're NEVER coming off my blacklist.

But I'll repeat what I've posted earlier on this subject:
Mr. Trump should NOT "concede", per se.
Not to an "election" that was rampant with fraud and corruption.

He should comply with the requirements of the Constitution.
To wit:
He should wait until the Electoral College meets and votes on December 14th.
Then... if the vote is for biden... Mr. Trump should issue a simple statement that he "accepts the decision of the Electoral College".
And say no more than that.

And then, on the morning of January 20th, at about 11.45am he should board Air Force One and fly south to Florida...
...And leave the cheaters to themselves on the inauguration bleachers.

Agreed. If the vote is for Biden. 

Consider then, that Trump has served his country well.  He is loved by millions.  He is not a young man and should get back to the lifestyle that he enjoyed before he ventured into running for president and spend the remaining days with his family and doing what he enjoys.  He can also proudly raise his middle finger to the bat crap crazy leftists.

[Bigun]

Unless you understand Ukrainian, hearing wouldn't mean much. Read the subtitles. You don't need the whole hour, the first ten minutes lay it out, the rest is supportive and interviews with witnesses/perpetrators.

I thought the recordings of the actual phone calls were pretty damned telling myself! @Smokin Joe

[skeeter]

Problem is Giuliani has not been able to come up with overwhelming and compelling evidence of fraud -- the courts are not even hearing the cases so no chance of cases making it to the Supreme Court.

Do I want Trump to concede? Of course not.   However, reality is that he will eventually have to.  .... either that or Biden will be sworn in without Trump conceding.

You must not have watched the presser today.

[bigheadfred]

You must not have watched the presser today.

I didn't. Work. Also got the flu, or covid. Been a long bad week.

[Fishrrman]

Cyber wrote:
"there are some Pardons due to be handed out, too."

Yup.

And NUMBER ONE on the pardon list is Michael Flynn.
If Mr. Trump doesn't issue a full pardon for Mr. Flynn, the democrat-communists will crucify him.

...Which is what I've been posting in this forum for MONTHS now whenever Mr. Flynn's case comes up...

[skeeter]

I didn't. Work. Also got the flu, or covid. Been a long bad week.

It was fun. There must be something to all this voter fraud stuff

[Right_in_Virginia]

Biden refuses to concede despite hundreds of witnesses of election fraud. But I don’t mind it he lets the process run.— Scott Adams (@ScottAdamsSays) November 19, 2020

[Cyber Liberty]

Problem is Giuliani has not been able to come up with overwhelming and compelling evidence of fraud -- the courts are not even hearing the cases so no chance of cases making it to the Supreme Court.

Do I want Trump to concede? Of course not.   However, reality is that he will eventually have to.  .... either that or Biden will be sworn in without Trump conceding.

Powell and Jenna said right upfront that this is an opening statement, and it's not time to provide evidence until it hits the real trial.  Do not let it panic you into believing there is "no evidence."  There is.

You are being gaslighted by the press.  Turn Fox off, entirely.

[corbe]

   Hardly anyone here is saying it wasn't stolen from Trump, we've known this for years, they cheat.  Use to be 5% was enough to overcome their cheating advantage, I think it's now jumped to 10~15%
   The last 'Honest' election we had was probably Eisenhower in '56.

[Sighlass]

I want every last cheating vote exposed to daylight... so no I don't want Trump to concede... Do I want Trump (if he comes up short here) in 2024.... not just no, but heck no.

Do I think Trump won? Yeah I do.... probable by more than most folks believe. Do I think Trump has the manpower to prove he was cheated, probable not (especially since a lot of it depends on what judges allow and libs are not afraid to use a liberal judge pawn to cover their tracks).

Final thoughts, hide a gun, and don't tell anyone where or that you have hid it....

[catfish1957]

Just got a text that Tucker Carlson flipped to the dark side.  Fox execs get to him?

Not looking good.

[skeeter]

Just got a text that Tucker Carlson flipped to the dark side.  Fox execs get to him?

Not looking good.

Carlson implied Powell had no case solely because she didn’t accept his offer to come on his show. It was lame. Really disappointed in him.

[sneakypete]

RINO's,most of all. Not even the Dims fear a Trump success like the RINO's do because the Dims can still dream of another comeback.

The RINO's understand that another loss to Trump is the end of their power scam. They will have nothing to offer anyone.

[sneakypete]

What's at stake now is the Georgia runoffs.    The ability to contain the prog agenda is what matters.    Trump's becoming a distraction,  if not a turnoff for those we need to persuade to get past this last, crucial hurdle.   Where is Trump's loyalty to the party?

@Jazzhead

Your mama dropped you on your head a lot when you were an infant,didn't she?

[sneakypete]

Always too cute by half. You are prevaricating when you say you want Trump in 2024.  Put less delicately, that is a gold-plated lie, and you're a bigger fool than I thought if you think anybody here believes you.

@Cyber Liberty

@Jazzhead

Cyber,I have no problem at all believing him. He thinks Trump is destroying the Republican Party,and he thinks that is a good thing,so why WOULDN'T he want Trump running again?

[dancer]

Just got a text that Tucker Carlson flipped to the dark side.  Fox execs get to him?

Not looking good.

Tucker is mad that Sydney Powell won't come on his show to spill the beans, wants "proof." 

Not sure what to think because he is smarter than that!  Evidence will come out in a court of law, not on
Tucker's show. 

He is getting hammered on Twitter.  Deservedly so.  I watched the vid twice, the second time with the sound off.  His body language is telling.

[Restored]

I was thinking it would be Gavin Newsom, but he seems to be screwing that up lately.

I'm thinking it will be a party man like Mark Warner.

[Restored]

Biden is history, just waiting for the ink to dry:

I don't think you understand. That news doesn't exist. That story never happened. You are guilty of noticing things that aren't for noticing. Anyone who believes that is a QAnon and QAnons are "dangerous". Remember, Biden won't have a trace of Dementia until it is time to have it.

When the House started talking about QAnon, my first thought was "Why are they even talking about this?" Then it hit me. QAnon is the strawman. Qanon is Anthony Fremont's Corn Field. That's where the bad stories will go.

[Bigun]

Tucker is mad that Sydney Powell won't come on his show to spill the beans, wants "proof." 

Not sure what to think because he is smarter than that!  Evidence will come out in a court of law, not on
Tucker's show. 

He is getting hammered on Twitter.  Deservedly so.  I watched the vid twice, the second time with the sound off.  His body language is telling.

  You beat me to it @dancer

[Polly Ticks]

You misunderstand.  I don't want Trump to "go home".   I think he should run again in 2024. 

I'm running late to this party, so apologies if you've already answered this somewhere down the thread, but why would you say you want him to run again in 2024?  You previously had said you thought the only chance for the Republican party to prevail in this year's election was if Trump were to step aside in favor of someone else.  What changed?  Or what do you think will be different about 2024 that makes Trump a better candidate four years down the road than he is now?

[Jazzhead]

Just got a text that Tucker Carlson flipped to the dark side.  Fox execs get to him?

Not looking good.

Yes,  he asked to see actual evidence.    I guess that's turning to the dark side around here

[Bigun]

Yes,  he asked to see actual evidence.    I guess that's turning to the dark side around here

And he knows damned well, just as you do, why she cannot come on his show and present evidence!  Begone Troll!

[Jazzhead]

@Cyber Liberty

@Jazzhead

Cyber,I have no problem at all believing him. He thinks Trump is destroying the Republican Party,and he thinks that is a good thing,so why WOULDN'T he want Trump running again?

I don't think Trump is destroying the GOP.  His formula for attracting working folks and minorities to a message of economic growth and Americanism has reinvigorated the party.    But the man himself is a small-minded megalomamiac.  IMO, of course.

[Cyber Liberty]

Yes,  he asked to see actual evidence.    I guess that's turning to the dark side around here

I think you know enough about the law to know that she should not hand over evidence to Carlson.  Why do you say things that you know are not true?