Pardon My Perplexity, But Why Should We Be Gracious?

[skeeter]

One could be forgiven for thinking he lives in the "Broward County" of 2020.  Maybe he thinks this is "normal?"

It will if we don't do something about it now.

[Cyber Liberty]

It will if we don't do something about it now.

Which could help explain his constant poo-pooing of our frustration with cheating.  If he "plays our cards right," he can have guns taken away from yahoos who want to waltz around his town square with weapons of war (emphasis on "his").  Kasich Republicans are such Democrats....

Don't worry, he only wants to "insure" them with exorbitant government premiums and back-door gun registration.  He said. 

[IsailedawayfromFR]

Too many reports of voting irregularities. For Biden. It needs to be stopped and people put in jail. Even if Trump still loses this crap needs to stop. There is no trust. And never will be until we stop it.

You got it backwards.

Once people are put in jail, then it will stop.

Until that time, it will continue as perpetrators see no adverse reason to cease.

[skeeter]

Which could help explain his constant poo-pooing of our frustration with cheating.  If he "plays our cards right," he can have guns taken away from yahoos who want to waltz around his town square with weapons of war (emphasis on "his").  Kasich Republicans are such Democrats....

Don't worry, he only wants to "insure" them with exorbitant government premiums and back-door gun registration.  He said. 

The GOPe couldn't ask for a more apt representative.

They think this fraudulent election means they get their franchise back, we conservatives/America 1sters will be forced back onto the reservation, back to eating the sh*t sandwich they've been shoving down our throats for 50 years and they can get back to stuffing money in their pockets.

They are blind. The ground has shifted under them, and permanently.

[XenaLee]

The GOPe couldn't ask for a more apt representative.

They think this fraudulent election means they get their franchise back, we conservatives/America 1sters will be forced back onto the reservation, back to eating the sh*t sandwich they've been shoving down our throats for 50 years and they can get back to stuffing money in their pockets.

They are blind. The ground has shifted under them, and permanently.

They're not worried about the ground shifting.   Their balance is just fine after decades of wobbling and flip-flopping.  They also have that 'normalcy bias' that tells them everything will settle back down... like it always does eventually.   And they could be right.   Again, we have to rely on "the courts" to rule over this travesty.   And we all know who (which side) controls the courts by now.  Even now, nobody can be 100% certain how ACB will side if/when it reaches that court.

[Smokin Joe]

Conservative ideas and republican values can and did win this year.   How did all the voter fraud seemingly bypass the House races,  where we may gained as many as a dozen seats and reduced the Dem majority to a trickle?   Or the many statehouse and state legislative races where the GOP decisively beat back the Dem initiative to control redistricting following the 2020 census?    That effort may alone be worth a half dozen seats in 2022.   And the prog ballot initiatives that were defeated even in places like Illinois and California?   

The GOP and conservatives more than held their own this year.   The bottom line that no one seems to want to face is that Donald Trump was a flawed candidate who had more than enough opportunities to change the behavior that turned folks off but never would or could.   

Trump lost fair and square,  and as a consequence we begin the new decade with divided government.   I'd say the good Lord still smiles upon this Republic,  revealing the public's desire for moderation and conciliation in the face of the two warring, spitting tribes.

The algorithm for altering votes was programmed to alter the POTUS race only.
Otherwise, the disparity between POTUS outcome and downticket races wouldn't be there.

I really do not see people intentionally neutering any changes they might make in Congress by putting Harris/Biden in the oval office--especially in states where phenomenal revenue (private and public) depends on the very oil and gas industry that those two have pledged to destroy.

[Jazzhead]

The algorithm for altering votes was programmed to alter the POTUS race only.
Otherwise, the disparity between POTUS outcome and downticket races wouldn't be there.

That's speculation.  Ask me again after Georgia completes its hand recount.   We've been assured that, historically,  hand recounts only change hundreds, no thousands, of votes.    Let's see if history holds.

The mere discrepancy between the Presidential and down ballot races can be easily explained by reasons other than fraud. 

[aligncare]

It will if we don't do something about it now.

As Spock said, logical.

Because once this election is put to bed, with Biden napping in his plush digs, the events, evidence, energy and opportunity is gone. Congressional committees will hold hearings afterwards and conclude no fraud, no cheating took place. It was a free and fair election.

It’s now or never.

[Bigun]

That's speculation.  Ask me again after Georgia completes its hand recount.   We've been assured that, historically,  hand recounts only change hundreds, no thousands, of votes.    Let's see if history holds.

The mere discrepancy between the Presidential and down ballot races can be easily explained by reasons other than fraud.

Georgia is apparently NOT properly auditing the votes cast in this election so you can forget that!

[skeeter]

They're not worried about the ground shifting.   Their balance is just fine after decades of wobbling and flip-flopping.  They also have that 'normalcy bias' that tells them everything will settle back down... like it always does eventually.   And they could be right.   Again, we have to rely on "the courts" to rule over this travesty.   And we all know who (which side) controls the courts by now.  Even now, nobody can be 100% certain how ACB will side if/when it reaches that court.

The difference is now the conservative base now sees what is possible when your candidate has integrity and a little tenacity.

[XenaLee]

The difference is now the conservative base now sees what is possible when your candidate has integrity and a little tenacity.

Yeah, regarding the GOPe.....

we got a taste of that "what's possible" when the rats tried to steal the 2000 election in Floriduh.   Not much has changed since then, has it.   They've had two decades to "fix" what they knew or should have known was broke....

and they did zip, exactly, about fixing it.   No need to even ask the question.... there's your answer.  They don't want it fixed.

[skeeter]

Yeah, regarding the GOPe.....

we got a taste of that "what's possible" when the rats tried to steal the 2000 election in Floriduh.   Not much has changed since then, has it.   They've had two decades to "fix" what they knew or should have known was broke....

and they did zip, exactly, about fixing it.   No need to even ask the question.... there's your answer.  They don't want it fixed.

I was referring to the Trump presidency in general, but yes the GOPe clearly is OK with rat corruption, although I have no idea why. Maybe each expects to be sitting in those few positions the rats will allow them as window dressing for 'democracy'.

[Bigun]

[XenaLee]

I was referring to the Trump presidency in general, but yes the GOPe clearly is OK with rat corruption, although I have no idea why. Maybe each expects to be sitting in those few positions the rats will allow them as window dressing for 'democracy'.

Yeah, as experience and history has shown us.... Complicity is obviously their middle name.

[Victoria33]

@Jazzhead

You said, "The GOP and conservatives more than held their own this year.   The bottom line that no one seems to want to face is that Donald Trump was a flawed candidate who had more than enough opportunities to change the behavior that turned folks off but never would or could."

Exactly, Republicans voted Biden to get rid of Trump, and voted their usual way, Republican, down ticket.  Women is one group who voted this way.  It is inherent for women to choose "safety" (for their children), and Trump's continual, every day a new outburst, nastiness, foul words, etc., etc., causes women to reject him.  They want peace for their children and Trump was never peace.

Some of you will reject what I wrote above, but it is the truth of the behavior of women.  In ancient times, the leader of a group was the physically strongest man.  A women needed a strong man in order to give safety to her children.  That desire has never changed.  The meaning of "strong" has changed.  Money is the new "strong", and second is physically strong.

A truism:  Women need men to lift heavy objects and kill spiders.  Just yesterday, I could not get the top off a milk jug.  I took it to Bob and he had it off in a second.  A few years ago, I came into the living area, headed for the kitchen.  In front of me on the floor was a snake.  I stood still and called out "Bob, come here, SNAKE!"  He came, knows snakes, and said it was a grass snake, picked it up and took it outside.  Ladies, tell your husband/partner, he is important to you.

[skeeter]

Women want a strong man. So they virtually voted for Joe Biden.

Yeah, I reject this theory in the strongest terms.

[XenaLee]

@Jazzhead

You said, "The GOP and conservatives more than held their own this year.   The bottom line that no one seems to want to face is that Donald Trump was a flawed candidate who had more than enough opportunities to change the behavior that turned folks off but never would or could."

Exactly, Republicans voted Biden to get rid of Trump, and voted their usual way, Republican, down ticket.  Women is one group who voted this way.  It is inherent for women to choose "safety" (for their children), and Trump's continual, every day a new outburst, nastiness, foul words, etc., etc., causes women to reject him.  They want peace for their children and Trump was never peace.

Some of you will reject what I wrote above, but it is the truth of the behavior of women.  In ancient times, the leader of a group was the physically strongest man.  A women needed a strong man in order to give safety to her children.  That desire has never changed.  The meaning of "strong" has changed.  Money is the new "strong", and second is physically strong.

Well none of that makes sense, since: 

1:  Real Republicans would NEVER vote for that idiot Joe Biden, and

2:  Trump has shown himself to be very strong against the evil radical left... a helluva lot stronger than that idiot Biden has ever been.   And as for money, Trump had his own money BEFORE running for pres...and before donating his salary to worthy causes.... while Biden became filthy rich, padding his wallet with taxpayer money, after being VP via his corrupt 'pay for play/access' dirty deals.   As for morality, turns out.... Biden was probably cheating on his first wife with Jill... which could have ended up contributing to his first wife's accidental death, and

3:  Money is what Trump has put MORE of in most American's pockets for the past four years... compared to the dismal, lowered expectations Stagnation that Obama/Biden inflicted Americans, including women, with. 

So....so much for your "strong, money" argument.

A truism:  Women need men to lift heavy objects and kill spiders.  Just yesterday, I could not get the top off a milk jug.  I took it to Bob and he had it off in a second.  A few years ago, I came into the living area, headed for the kitchen.  In front of me on the floor was a snake. I stood still and called out "Bob, come here, SNAKE!"  He came, knows snakes, and said it was a grass snake, picked it up and took it outside.  Ladies, tell your husband/partner, he is important to you.

Really?   You're actually afraid of a grass snake?    I guess women (real women) are different from where you are.   And especially Texas women.   

[Cyber Liberty]

I was referring to the Trump presidency in general, but yes the GOPe clearly is OK with rat corruption, although I have no idea why. Maybe each expects to be sitting in those few positions the rats will allow them as window dressing for 'democracy'.

My guess is the GOPe doesn't care about the power because they want the same things the Rats do.  They just want to keep their sinecures, E.G. the graft.

[skeeter]

My guess is the GOPe doesn't care about the power because they want the same things the Rats do.  They just want to keep their sinecures, E.G. the graft.

The rats can make the policy as long as they allow ‘republicans’ a few positions to maintain the veneer of a bicameral government. The gop doesn’t mind the left making policy because their big government solutions suit the gop as well.

And if we allow The Steal we’ll ever see another president who doesn’t have the blessing of the ruling elite again.

[Jazzhead]

My guess is the GOPe doesn't care about the power because they want the same things the Rats do.  They just want to keep their sinecures, E.G. the graft.

Or maybe they just still care about such things as comity and common decency.   Maybe they're just folks who don't view their neighbors as the enemy.

[aligncare]

Or maybe they just still care about such things as comity and common decency.   Maybe they're just folks who don't view their neighbors as the enemy.

Where you been last four years?  When have democrats ever practiced comity and common decency?

[XenaLee]

Or maybe they just still care about such things as comity and common decency.   Maybe they're just folks who don't view their neighbors as the enemy.

Holy moly, crappyoly.   

Are you actually saying that the radical left... ie Joe Biden... represents common decency?

Dude... your leftie slip isn't just showing....

it has completely fallen down around your ankles!

[Jazzhead]

@Jazzhead

You said, "The GOP and conservatives more than held their own this year.   The bottom line that no one seems to want to face is that Donald Trump was a flawed candidate who had more than enough opportunities to change the behavior that turned folks off but never would or could."

Exactly, Republicans voted Biden to get rid of Trump, and voted their usual way, Republican, down ticket.  Women is one group who voted this way.  It is inherent for women to choose "safety" (for their children), and Trump's continual, every day a new outburst, nastiness, foul words, etc., etc., causes women to reject him.  They want peace for their children and Trump was never peace.

Some of you will reject what I wrote above, but it is the truth of the behavior of women.  In ancient times, the leader of a group was the physically strongest man.  A women needed a strong man in order to give safety to her children.  That desire has never changed.  The meaning of "strong" has changed.  Money is the new "strong", and second is physically strong.

A truism:  Women need men to lift heavy objects and kill spiders.  Just yesterday, I could not get the top off a milk jug.  I took it to Bob and he had it off in a second.  A few years ago, I came into the living area, headed for the kitchen.  In front of me on the floor was a snake.  I stood still and called out "Bob, come here, SNAKE!"  He came, knows snakes, and said it was a grass snake, picked it up and took it outside.  Ladies, tell your husband/partner, he is important to you.

Bumped for truth.   It is wonderful to see the voters, in their wisdom,  split the difference between the warring, spitting tribes.   

[skeeter]

Or maybe they just still care about such things as comity and common decency.   Maybe they're just folks who don't view their neighbors as the enemy.

Your line of BS ain't flying here, but youre a hoot all the same.

[Jazzhead]

Holy moly, crappyoly.   

Are you actually saying that the radical left... ie Joe Biden... represents common decency?

Dude... your leftie slip isn't just showing....

it has completely fallen down around your ankles!

Biden deliberately played down Den policies.   His sole appeal was that he wasn't Trump.  Meanwhile,  other GOP candidates,  all over the country,  made substantial gains.  According to Mark Steyn,  there has NEVER been an election before where the party that won the Presidency failed to flip even one contested House seat.

America is just fine.   It is not in the grip of a leftist takeover.  It just wants a President who doesnt live to polarize and divide.