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Re: Benford's Law
« Reply #50 on: November 09, 2020, 02:54:40 am »
That makes way to much sense for a Neanderthal.


Too much sense?

Well in my youth I was in a gang and was the fighter for the gang. About 100 fights in
a year. All wins.

Played sports in HS. Football, Wrestling and Track.
Declined an invitation to the Chess club because I could beat them all.

SAT Math 764 sounds good until you hear English of 446.

My children have math capabilities similar to my own but they can also
talk and socialize.

My son told me that Neanderthals were strong, highly intelligent, and
had the ability to live segregated. Thus they didn't congregate into
larger social groups. Socialization is important to humanities survival.

Anyone here know if that is true or if my son is bullsh!tting me?





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Re: Benford's Law
« Reply #51 on: November 09, 2020, 02:59:04 am »

Too much sense?

Well in my youth I was in a gang and was the fighter for the gang. About 100 fights in
a year. All wins.

Played sports in HS. Football, Wrestling and Track.
Declined an invitation to the Chess club because I could beat them all.

SAT Math 764 sounds good until you hear English of 446.

My children have math capabilities similar to my own but they can also
talk and socialize.

My son told me that Neanderthals were strong, highly intelligent, and
had the ability to live segregated. Thus they didn't congregate into
larger social groups. Socialization is important to humanities survival.

Anyone here know if that is true or if my son is bullsh!tting me?

Don't ask me. I am Neanderthal.
She asked me name my foe then. I said the need within some men to fight and kill their brothers without thought of Love or God. Ken Hensley

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Re: Benford's Law
« Reply #52 on: November 09, 2020, 03:03:38 am »
Don't ask me. I am Neanderthal.


I inherited my Neanderthal genetics from Dad. I have a second cousin on dads side of the family.

My percentage is 3% and hers is 5%.



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Re: Benford's Law
« Reply #53 on: November 09, 2020, 03:06:00 am »
I was going to mention Diff, but what is the dif?

dy/dx
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Re: Benford's Law
« Reply #54 on: November 09, 2020, 03:06:44 am »

I inherited my Neanderthal genetics from Dad. I have a second cousin on dads side of the family.

My percentage is 3% and hers is 5%.

All I know is my wife says I am one when she is combing my back.
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Re: Benford's Law
« Reply #55 on: November 09, 2020, 03:09:06 am »
Univ of Toledo 1963. @Slide Rule

I can see how math would be hard before they invented the wheel.  :laugh:


The wheel was a big help.

I am older than dirt. I retired at 50 and have at least another 15 to 20 years.



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Re: Benford's Law
« Reply #56 on: November 09, 2020, 03:10:39 am »

The wheel was a big help.

I am older than dirt. I retired at 50 and have at least another 15 to 20 years.

Nah. Biden in and the future is short.
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Re: Benford's Law
« Reply #57 on: November 09, 2020, 03:11:14 am »
Chemistry kicked my butt.

Math was easy.  :shrug:



Chemistry was also something I found frustrating.
Math was more like solving interesting problems.
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Re: Benford's Law
« Reply #58 on: November 09, 2020, 03:21:33 am »
I was doing pretty good in math (I thought) and then I discovered there weren't any books available for my Calc-4 class. They just changed to a new book and obviously didn't order enough. The library didn't even have one. Try taking a math course without a book. I bailed while drop n add was going on. I then had a tech course to learn Laplace Transforms. I got a fair grade but didn't learn squat. The instructor was a Middle Eastern student going for a PHD and he didn't know the material. All the tests were open book open notes. What a waste. I think that was the last math related course I took. Thru most of my college I worked full time while taking a full load. Except for chemistry, I skipped all the labs. One chem lab I had 2 nursing students for lab partners. They would pass the quiz at the start of each lab. I flunked every one, but aced every lab. I stepped those partners thru the labs drop by drop together. That was the last Chem class they needed and I got them thru. I didn't read any assignments. I always went to class and took notes. I didn't bother learning formulas for physics. I would attack the test questions as pure math problems. I never crammed. I'd just go thru my notes.

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Re: Benford's Law
« Reply #59 on: November 09, 2020, 03:22:13 am »

Chemistry was also something I found frustrating.
Math was more like solving interesting problems.

I have to agree with you and @bigheadfred.  Chemistry was harder than Hades.
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Re: Benford's Law
« Reply #60 on: November 09, 2020, 03:28:40 am »
I was doing pretty good in math (I thought) and then I discovered there weren't any books available for my Calc-4 class. They just changed to a new book and obviously didn't order enough. The library didn't even have one. Try taking a math course without a book. I bailed while drop n add was going on. I then had a tech course to learn Laplace Transforms. I got a fair grade but didn't learn squat. The instructor was a Middle Eastern student going for a PHD and he didn't know the material. All the tests were open book open notes. What a waste. I think that was the last math related course I took. Thru most of my college I worked full time while taking a full load. Except for chemistry, I skipped all the labs. One chem lab I had 2 nursing students for lab partners. They would pass the quiz at the start of each lab. I flunked every one, but aced every lab. I stepped those partners thru the labs drop by drop together. That was the last Chem class they needed and I got them thru. I didn't read any assignments. I always went to class and took notes. I didn't bother learning formulas for physics. I would attack the test questions as pure math problems. I never crammed. I'd just go thru my notes.

I had a college prof who gave fascinating lectures and I took extensive notes.  I discovered at the first test my notes were worthless!  He was teaching by lecture, and then testing from the book!  Since it was a Humanities class, I didn't give a rip about the material, I just wanted the grade to fill my elective requirement.  I never opened my notebook for the rest of that class.
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Re: Benford's Law
« Reply #61 on: November 09, 2020, 03:39:31 am »
I had the same prof through Calc three.

He told us one day.

I'm Not trying to teach you math. I am trying to make you Think.
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« Reply #62 on: November 09, 2020, 03:51:14 am »
I had a college prof who gave fascinating lectures and I took extensive notes.  I discovered at the first test my notes were worthless!  He was teaching by lecture, and then testing from the book!  Since it was a Humanities class, I didn't give a rip about the material, I just wanted the grade to fill my elective requirement.  I never opened my notebook for the rest of that class.

I was lucky taking electronics that 90% or more of the test questions were covered in class. In my digital circuits class every test question was covered 3 times in class. The instructor wanted to help bring up the average so he told the class that the next test would only have one question on it. And since it was a digital class there would be no partial credit. You would get a 100 or a 0. You should of heard the students freaking out with the thought of getting a zero, instead of looking forward to getting a 100. Another class was a microprocessor applications class. The semester before they surveyed to see who was willing to take a new class. You had to buy your own SYM-1 6502 board. The class was one project that you had the whole semester to work on. I guess students got antsy not knowing what their grade was going to be, cause the dean made him give us a test. We never did get that test back. I made an auto ranging digital voltmeter for mine. For a voltage to test I also set up a D/A output. I wasn't too worried about a grade as I had made all the transformers that the students used to build their power supplies.

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Re: Benford's Law
« Reply #63 on: November 09, 2020, 04:00:23 am »
I have to agree with you and @bigheadfred.  Chemistry was harder than Hades.

Chemistry was my easiest subject.  But it all went downhill once I realized Niels Bohr was wrong.  P-Chem was a madman.  But I had a good prof.

The problem with DiffEq is that it is taught by math professors when it should be taught by engineers.  Solving CSTR tank problems or RLC circuit problems makes sense.  But all that y''=y' * e-iy BS is pointless.

Linear algebra was cool, but there has been only a handful of times since where I have actually used it.
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Re: Benford's Law
« Reply #64 on: November 09, 2020, 01:55:54 pm »
I was doing pretty good in math (I thought) and then I discovered there weren't any books available for my Calc-4 class. They just changed to a new book and obviously didn't order enough. The library didn't even have one. Try taking a math course without a book. I bailed while drop n add was going on. I then had a tech course to learn Laplace Transforms. I got a fair grade but didn't learn squat. The instructor was a Middle Eastern student going for a PHD and he didn't know the material. All the tests were open book open notes. What a waste. I think that was the last math related course I took. Thru most of my college I worked full time while taking a full load. Except for chemistry, I skipped all the labs. One chem lab I had 2 nursing students for lab partners. They would pass the quiz at the start of each lab. I flunked every one, but aced every lab. I stepped those partners thru the labs drop by drop together. That was the last Chem class they needed and I got them thru. I didn't read any assignments. I always went to class and took notes. I didn't bother learning formulas for physics. I would attack the test questions as pure math problems. I never crammed. I'd just go thru my notes.


Those in Electrical are fond of Laplace Transforms as they solve those Diff-Eq problems with ease.
As a general observation they transform differential equations to algebra problems. Then you
transform back to the time domain.

When an engineer is going off the deep end I ask them about Laplace.



They are good in all the disciplines and I found them useful in a Mechanics.






« Last Edit: November 09, 2020, 02:08:06 pm by Slide Rule »
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Re: Benford's Law
« Reply #65 on: November 09, 2020, 02:07:21 pm »
Chemistry was my easiest subject.  But it all went downhill once I realized Niels Bohr was wrong.  P-Chem was a madman.  But I had a good prof.

The problem with DiffEq is that it is taught by math professors when it should be taught by engineers.  Solving CSTR tank problems or RLC circuit problems makes sense.  But all that y''=y' * e-iy BS is pointless.

Linear algebra was cool, but there has been only a handful of times since where I have actually used it.



Chemistry required too much memorization and that was a negative for me. I was interested in
attaining useful tools to work out issues.

I have used it all, but not on a regular basis. I once used calculus to solve a budgeting problem.
I liked screwing with our accounting guys.

Diff-Eq was used extensively in Electrical. I was a Communications major and that generated many
interesting problems. Feedback systems was the best and it was taught by engineers. I did take
Diff-Eq from the Math guys. I am comfortable with both.

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Re: Benford's Law
« Reply #66 on: November 09, 2020, 08:59:28 pm »

Benford's Law and 2020 Presidential Voter Fraud​

https://youtu.be/DoF3WS42w3M


Robert A. Bonavito, CPA
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Benford’s Law applied to the State of George’s 2020 presidential election vote counts. As a forensic accountant I have many ways and techniques to spot fraud. One of the ways to detect fraud, especially when analyzing tax returns, general ledgers and other items that contain a large amount of numerical data is by applying Benford’s Law. Benford’s Law states that any random numbers will have a specific result as to which digits appear first in each data set. The law gives a prediction of frequency of leading digits using base-10 logarithms.

Conclusion:
Massive Fraud​
Data Manipulated
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« Reply #67 on: November 09, 2020, 09:01:32 pm »

How to Detect Fraud Using Benford's Law​

https://youtu.be/7uhAn19V1EY

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Forensic Accountant Robert A. Bonavito discusses Benford’s Law which is a technique to detect fraud especially when analyzing tax returns, general ledgers and other items that contain a large amount of numerical data.
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Re: Benford's Law
« Reply #68 on: November 09, 2020, 10:00:15 pm »
UPDATE: Facebook and Twitter Suspend Accounts That Posted on Benford’s Law Showing Biden’s Implausible Vote Totals — LABELING IT “SEXUAL EXPLOITATION”

Jim Hoft   |   November 8, 2020 at 9:01pm


We have heard from many readers who told us once they retweeted this tweet or tried to post it on Facebook their account was suspended!

The social media giants are preventing Americans from posting this mathematical evidence that proves Joe Biden’s numbers violate the Benford Law of normal distributions!  .  .  .

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/11/update-facebook-twitter-suspend-accounts-posted-benfords-law-showing-bidens-implausible-vote-totals-labeling-sexual-exploitation/
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Re: Benford's Law
« Reply #69 on: November 09, 2020, 10:22:43 pm »
UPDATE: Facebook and Twitter Suspend Accounts That Posted on Benford’s Law Showing Biden’s Implausible Vote Totals — LABELING IT “SEXUAL EXPLOITATION”

Jim Hoft   |   November 8, 2020 at 9:01pm

We have heard from many readers who told us once they retweeted this tweet or tried to post it on Facebook their account was suspended!

The social media giants are preventing Americans from posting this mathematical evidence that proves Joe Biden’s numbers violate the Benford Law of normal distributions!  .  .  .


https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/11/update-facebook-twitter-suspend-accounts-posted-benfords-law-showing-bidens-implausible-vote-totals-labeling-sexual-exploitation/


That is to be expected. Nothing to tarnish a clean and legal BiteMe win.

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Re: Benford's Law
« Reply #70 on: November 09, 2020, 10:47:40 pm »
UPDATE: Facebook and Twitter Suspend Accounts That Posted on Benford’s Law Showing Biden’s Implausible Vote Totals — LABELING IT “SEXUAL EXPLOITATION”

Jim Hoft   |   November 8, 2020 at 9:01pm


We have heard from many readers who told us once they retweeted this tweet or tried to post it on Facebook their account was suspended!

The social media giants are preventing Americans from posting this mathematical evidence that proves Joe Biden’s numbers violate the Benford Law of normal distributions!  .  .  .

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/11/update-facebook-twitter-suspend-accounts-posted-benfords-law-showing-bidens-implausible-vote-totals-labeling-sexual-exploitation/

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Re: Benford's Law
« Reply #71 on: November 09, 2020, 11:27:47 pm »
Did it to me! 



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« Reply #72 on: November 09, 2020, 11:48:56 pm »
I'm still LMAO!  Sorry if it caused you troubles, and I'm glad we're hooked up on MeWe!

You had nothing to do with it and it IS kind of funny.  Talking about a Law of accounting is somehow sexual exploitation!   :thud:

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