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Re: Benford's Law
« Reply #25 on: November 08, 2020, 09:05:55 pm »

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Re: Benford's Law
« Reply #26 on: November 08, 2020, 09:44:31 pm »
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Re: Benford's Law
« Reply #27 on: November 08, 2020, 10:29:18 pm »
@Applewood

The election poll. I am not against voter access  if they are elderly, or unable to physically vote downtown.

I am against the subversion of that.

Apropos of nothing there are two elderly ladies at the end of my street. One told the other she had nothing to fear...being alone. She said if she had a problem she didn't call the police. She calls me. Word is out in this neighborhood. It helps when our Mexican in laws live some doors down. They are on the same page. This is our home.

I want a Constitutional election.

Watch the video.

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Re: Benford's Law
« Reply #28 on: November 08, 2020, 10:35:43 pm »
@Applewood

The election poll. I am not against voter access  if they are elderly, or unable to physically vote downtown.

I am against the subversion of that.

Apropos of nothing there are two elderly ladies at the end of my street. One told the other she had nothing to fear...being alone. She said if she had a problem she didn't call the police. She calls me. Word is out in this neighborhood. It helps when our Mexican in laws live some doors down. They are on the same page. This is our home.

I want a Constitutional election.

Watch the video.

It must suck to have those tweakers across the street in your family.... 9999hair out0000
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Re: Benford's Law
« Reply #29 on: November 08, 2020, 10:48:14 pm »
It must suck to have those tweakers across the street in your family.... 9999hair out0000

No, they are gone. $20,000 in damage to a $5,000 trailer house. That really is how stupid.
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Re: Benford's Law
« Reply #30 on: November 08, 2020, 11:11:21 pm »
No, they are gone. $20,000 in damage to a $5,000 trailer house. That really is how stupid.

That's great news they're gone, but too bad for the Landlord.  I hope he's insured.
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Re: Benford's Law
« Reply #31 on: November 08, 2020, 11:25:52 pm »
That's great news they're gone, but too bad for the Landlord.  I hope he's insured.

They are. Don't know about arson. That would be the best. Toss in a match.
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Re: Benford's Law
« Reply #32 on: November 09, 2020, 12:15:21 am »
Interesting, please feel free to ping me if any new info comes out. Thanks
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Re: Benford's Law
« Reply #33 on: November 09, 2020, 12:31:59 am »
Here's some good info from the immortal Lazamataz at TOS:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3903425/posts?page=177#177
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Re: Benford's Law
« Reply #34 on: November 09, 2020, 12:47:33 am »
Here's some good info from the immortal Lazamataz at TOS:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3903425/posts?page=177#177

Laz is at his best when it comes to database software.  I know this because he's one of my best on-line friends.
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Re: Benford's Law
« Reply #35 on: November 09, 2020, 12:52:03 am »
A so called Biden win is something from nothing. It is mathematically provable.

Can this be used to plot what happened to the Biden vote during the three hour counting blackout, and determine it was fraud?

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Re: Benford's Law
« Reply #36 on: November 09, 2020, 12:54:53 am »
Laz is at his best when it comes to database software.  I know this because he's one of my best on-line friends.

He does know that.
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Re: Benford's Law
« Reply #37 on: November 09, 2020, 12:57:00 am »
Can this be used to plot what happened to the Biden vote during the three hour counting blackout, and determine it was fraud?

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I am not an expert here. But if the US Government uses it to detect fraud that says enough.
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Re: Benford's Law
« Reply #38 on: November 09, 2020, 01:01:22 am »
Can this be used to plot what happened to the Biden vote during the three hour counting blackout, and determine it was fraud?

@bigheadfred

What this tool is good for is helping investigators target the Precincts with the worst fraud, and then they can branch out from there.
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Re: Benford's Law
« Reply #39 on: November 09, 2020, 01:32:37 am »
I am not an expert here. But if the US Government uses it to detect fraud that says enough.

Thanks.

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Re: Benford's Law
« Reply #40 on: November 09, 2020, 01:33:28 am »
What this tool is good for is helping investigators target the Precincts with the worst fraud, and then they can branch out from there.

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« Reply #41 on: November 09, 2020, 02:02:11 am »
Do you know how the data is collected and who does it?  @Cyber Liberty

I don't know. If it is Registrations, I could collect that data myself because I have a copy of the County database.  Seems to me that would be too easy, so it would have to be ballots, I guess. 
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Re: Benford's Law
« Reply #42 on: November 09, 2020, 02:14:58 am »
I'll have to take your word on this, @Slide Rule

Calculus aside, my interest in mathematics went South in my first Trig class.   :laugh:

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I took Trig twice. Once in HS in an accelerated class but I failed to pass my
Trig for college. Couldn't recall my identities. I never study for math.

So I took Trig in a late class three nights a week by a guy who only taught this
class. I did my first nights homework but then stopped as our instructor would
ask if there were any problems they needed help on. He would then assign a few
people who got those problems to put their work on the board. Every night the
same time wasting method. He could have spent a portion of the time discussing
Trig principles.

I usually waited for a relatively tough problem and said I had it. I only selected
the most complex problem. I then worked it out in real time at the blackboard.
This really hones your skill. The instructor noticed I wasn't looking at my supposedly
completed work but just the textbook. He noticed I was doing what he could not.

There were about 40 in that night class in University Hall and I took the only A.
Univ of Toledo 1963.

In preparation I would read the work, look at the problems and come to class.
I did have an excellent class in HS.

I have taken Trig, Calculus, Complex Variables, Statistics, and Logic. Always took
an A. Physics was my strongest area but I majored in Electrical.
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Re: Benford's Law
« Reply #43 on: November 09, 2020, 02:19:27 am »
Chemistry kicked my butt.

Math was easy.  :shrug:
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Re: Benford's Law
« Reply #44 on: November 09, 2020, 02:22:12 am »
Univ of Toledo 1963. @Slide Rule

I can see how math would be hard before they invented the wheel.  :laugh:
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Re: Benford's Law
« Reply #45 on: November 09, 2020, 02:23:16 am »

I actually took Trig twice. Once in HS in an accelerated class but I failed to
pass my Trig for college. Couldn't recall my identities. I never study for math.

So I took Trig in a late class three nights a week by a guy who only taught this
class. I did my first nights homework but then stopped as our instructor would
ask if there were any problems they needed help on. He would then assign a few
people who got those problems to put their work on the board. Every night the
same time wasting method. He could have spent a portion of the time discussing
Trig principles.

I usually waited for a relatively tough problem and said I had it. I only selected
the most complex problem. I then worked it out in real time at the blackboard.
This really hones your skill. The instructor noticed I wasn't looking at my supposedly
completed work but just the textbook. He noticed I was doing what he could not.

There were about 40 in that night class in University Hall and I took the only A.
Univ of Toledo 1963.

In preparation I would read the work, look at the problems and come to class.
I did have an excellent class in HS.

I have taken Trig, Calculus, Complex Variables, Statistics, and Logic. Always took
an A. Physics was my strongest area but I majored in Electrical.

What, no Diff-Eq?   **nononono*

I had the privilege of working with PhD grads in EE for over 25 years.  I developed a healthy respect for their abilities, and I learnt a lot in the process.  And...not a single one liked being called "Doctor."  They were all classified as "Scientists," but they preferred being called an "Engineer."
For unvaccinated, we are looking at a winter of severe illness and death — if you’re unvaccinated — for themselves, their families, and the hospitals they’ll soon overwhelm. Sloe Joe Biteme 12/16
I will NOT comply.
 
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Re: Benford's Law
« Reply #46 on: November 09, 2020, 02:26:01 am »
What, no Diff-Eq?   **nononono*

I had the privilege of working with PhD grads in EE for over 25 years.  I developed a healthy respect for their abilities, and I learnt a lot in the process.  And...not a single one liked being called "Doctor."  They were all classified as "Scientists," but they preferred being called an "Engineer."

I was going to mention Diff, but what is the dif?
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Re: Benford's Law
« Reply #47 on: November 09, 2020, 02:32:07 am »
Ya. I forgot differential equations. I also taught a Feedback lab where you solve
differential equations on an analog computer. TR48 computers.


I am also a Neanderthal.


Yes. Being identified as an Engineer is the preferred term. Notice my icon as I wish
to project that thought.

When the Supremes look into this fraud they should isolate those troublesome areas
and prosecute those that can be identified. People really need to go to jail.

They should then place those precincts or the entire state votes aside and let those states
that voted legally prevail for presidency. They should also require a reworking of their
system to eliminate such processes from repeating.

For other political races they should require a rerun of those state positions.

There really are benefits to be gained not only for the current election but more importantly
for future elections.


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Re: Benford's Law
« Reply #48 on: November 09, 2020, 02:42:30 am »
Ya. I forgot differential equations. I also taught a Feedback lab where you solve
differential equations on an analog computer. TR48 computers.


I am also a Neanderthal.


Yes. Being identified as an Engineer is the preferred term. Notice my icon as I wish


to project that thought.

When the Supremes look into this fraud they should isolate those troublesome areas
and prosecute those that can be identified. People really need to go to jail.

They should then place those precincts or the entire state votes aside and let those states
that voted legally prevail for presidency. They should also require a reworking of their
system to eliminate such processes from repeating.

For other political races they should require a rerun of those state positions.

There really are benefits to be gained not only for the current election but more importantly
for future elections.


Slide Rule


That makes way to much sense for a Neanderthal.
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Re: Benford's Law
« Reply #49 on: November 09, 2020, 02:46:03 am »
What, no Diff **nononono* -Eq? 

I had the privilege of working with PhD grads in EE for over 25 years.  I developed a healthy respect for their abilities, and I learnt a lot in the process.  And...not a single one liked being called "Doctor."  They were all classified as "Scientists," but they preferred being called an "Engineer."


Engineers are a bright bunch but sometimes a bit odd. For the most part they are highly intelligent
but there are a few duds.

Like 2.0 Gary W.  He had a serious problem. His grade point was under 2.0 and couldn't graduate
until it was raised. With all the course work hours that is difficult. And he took a couple of Cs
in his makeup work. It was serious and Viet Nam looked to be in his future.

His dad solved the problem with a generous donation to the university and Gary found his grade
point magically raised to a 2.0.  Thus we called him 2.0 Gary W.


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R Penrose, The Road To Reality & The Emperor's New Mind
K Popper, An Open Society and Its Enemies & The Logic of Scientific Discovery
A Solzhenitsyn, The Gulag Archipelago, & Everything he wrote