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Benford's Law
« on: November 08, 2020, 01:08:12 pm »


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Biden’s Vote Tallies apparently Violate Benford’s Law, everyone else follow across the country, except for Biden in key races. This is a test for catching election fraud, used by the State Department and forensic accountants.










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Re: Benford's Law
« Reply #1 on: November 08, 2020, 01:12:07 pm »
Some kind of Divine intervention, perhaps?
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Re: Benford's Law
« Reply #2 on: November 08, 2020, 01:12:40 pm »
Technical detail for those interested at


https://mathworld.wolfram.com/BenfordsLaw.html


It would seem those creating votes are unaware of Benford's Law and
the government use of it for fraud. It is the leading digits that betray
in this case criminal behavior.


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Re: Benford's Law
« Reply #3 on: November 08, 2020, 01:14:32 pm »
Some kind of Divine intervention, perhaps?


Quite divine. Sure hope some of the Supremes took Mathematics as an intellectual exercise.

The problem will be explaining this to Le Moron.
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Re: Benford's Law
« Reply #4 on: November 08, 2020, 01:14:47 pm »
Technical detail for those interested at


https://mathworld.wolfram.com/BenfordsLaw.html


It would seem those creating votes are unaware of Benford's Law and
the government use of it for fraud. It is the leading digits that betray
in this case criminal behavior.

Hopefully they will set this straight.
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Re: Benford's Law
« Reply #5 on: November 08, 2020, 03:47:42 pm »
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Re: Benford's Law
« Reply #6 on: November 08, 2020, 04:03:09 pm »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1VBK2BU0K6k

Using Benford’s Law to Analyze Biden-Trump Election Fraud (ALLEGHENY COUNTY, PA)

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Re: Benford's Law
« Reply #7 on: November 08, 2020, 04:44:17 pm »

Number 1 and Benford's Law - Numberphile

https://youtu.be/XXjlR2OK1kM


We the party of science and math now. Biden's numbers are breaking this law hard.

Also videos about Benford's law are about to go viral.

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Re: Benford's Law
« Reply #8 on: November 08, 2020, 04:48:03 pm »

For you Marxist's here, try to keep up.

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Re: Benford's Law
« Reply #9 on: November 08, 2020, 05:04:51 pm »


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Biden’s Vote Tallies apparently Violate Benford’s Law, everyone else follow across the country, except for Biden in key races. This is a test for catching election fraud, used by the State Department and forensic accountants.










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Re: Benford's Law
« Reply #10 on: November 08, 2020, 05:08:14 pm »
Technical detail for those interested at


https://mathworld.wolfram.com/BenfordsLaw.html


It would seem those creating votes are unaware of Benford's Law and
the government use of it for fraud. It is the leading digits that betray
in this case criminal behavior.

I read it, but I'm not grasping the concept of "First Digit."  I can see the graph of Biteme/HeelsUp is anomalous, but I don't know exactly what it means because of my lack of understanding.   :shrug:

And I studied Statistics for many years while in R&D.

Am I a Marxist moron?   :tongue2:
« Last Edit: November 08, 2020, 05:10:24 pm by Cyber Liberty »
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Re: Benford's Law
« Reply #11 on: November 08, 2020, 05:23:27 pm »

Number 1 and Benford's Law - Numberphile

https://youtu.be/XXjlR2OK1kM


We the party of science and math now. Biden's numbers are breaking this law hard.

Also videos about Benford's law are about to go viral.

Slide Rule

That video is VERY helpful.  The plots are a lot like what you get when you add the magnitudes of Sine Waves that are harmonious.  When you add up the plots from a whole lot of Harmonious Waves, you end up with a saw-tooth wave that looks nothing like the Sine Waves that were added together.

Bottom line, the Biteme votes look anomalous while the rest of the plots in the OP look "normal."
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Re: Benford's Law
« Reply #12 on: November 08, 2020, 05:36:18 pm »
I read it, but I'm not grasping the concept of "First Digit."  I can see the graph of Biteme/HeelsUp is anomalous, but I don't know exactly what it means because of my lack of understanding.   :shrug:

And I studied Statistics for many years while in R&D.

Am I a Marxist moron?   :tongue2:

I had you down as more of as Trotsky guy.  :tongue2:
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Re: Benford's Law
« Reply #13 on: November 08, 2020, 05:46:17 pm »
That video is VERY helpful.  The plots are a lot like what you get when you add the magnitudes of Sine Waves that are harmonious.  When you add up the plots from a whole lot of Harmonious Waves, you end up with a saw-tooth wave that looks nothing like the Sine Waves that were added together.

Bottom line, the Biteme votes look anomalous while the rest of the plots in the OP look "normal."

Here's another goodun @Cyber Liberty


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7uhAn19V1EY
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Re: Benford's Law
« Reply #14 on: November 08, 2020, 05:56:10 pm »
I read it, but I'm not grasping the concept of "First Digit."  I can see the graph of Biteme/HeelsUp is anomalous, but I don't know exactly what it means because of my lack of understanding.   :shrug:

And I studied Statistics for many years while in R&D.

Am I a Marxist moron?   :tongue2:

I believe the idea is the area of ratios starting with the first digit. If you increment a number starting at 1 in 1% steps going to just under 10 the number of occurrences declines for each integer increment. The numbers starting with 1 are about a 3rd of all the numbers between 1 and 10 (in 1.01 steps). So numbers that are based on actual data should start with 1 much more often than a 1 out of 9 chance of a purely random occurrence. Each incrementing integer bin of numbers should decline in occurrence because the bin gets narrower on each step up (ratio of 1 to 2 at the lower end is a wide range verses a ratio of 8 to 9 at the upper end which is a narrow range).

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Re: Benford's Law
« Reply #15 on: November 08, 2020, 05:59:13 pm »
I had you down as more of as Trotsky guy.  :tongue2:

I'm a Hoxhaist myself, all those other guys are Revisionists!

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Re: Benford's Law
« Reply #16 on: November 08, 2020, 05:59:31 pm »
Here's another goodun @Cyber Liberty


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7uhAn19V1EY

Yes, it is!  A very good companion video with the one @Slide Rule posted!  Now, I "get it."
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Re: Benford's Law
« Reply #17 on: November 08, 2020, 05:59:55 pm »
I believe the idea is the area of ratios starting with the first digit. If you increment a number starting at 1 in 1% steps going to just under 10 the number of occurrences declines for each integer increment. The numbers starting with 1 are about a 3rd of all the numbers between 1 and 10 (in 1.01 steps). So numbers that are based on actual data should start with 1 much more often than a 1 out of 9 chance of a purely random occurrence. Each incrementing integer bin of numbers should decline in occurrence because the bin gets narrower on each step up (ratio of 1 to 2 at the lower end is a wide range verses a ratio of 8 to 9 at the upper end which is a narrow range).

Diminishing returns.
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Re: Benford's Law
« Reply #18 on: November 08, 2020, 06:01:39 pm »
I believe the idea is the area of ratios starting with the first digit. If you increment a number starting at 1 in 1% steps going to just under 10 the number of occurrences declines for each integer increment. The numbers starting with 1 are about a 3rd of all the numbers between 1 and 10 (in 1.01 steps). So numbers that are based on actual data should start with 1 much more often than a 1 out of 9 chance of a purely random occurrence. Each incrementing integer bin of numbers should decline in occurrence because the bin gets narrower on each step up (ratio of 1 to 2 at the lower end is a wide range verses a ratio of 8 to 9 at the upper end which is a narrow range).

Yes, I finally got it when I watched Slide Rule's video upthread.
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Re: Benford's Law
« Reply #19 on: November 08, 2020, 06:09:00 pm »
Now if we could just get the left to follow the science and the math.

It is settled.

There is no hope for a guy like Le Moron.



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Re: Benford's Law
« Reply #20 on: November 08, 2020, 06:18:21 pm »
Now if we could just get the left to follow the science and the math.

It is settled.

There is no hope for a guy like Le Moron.

Now if we could just get the left to follow the science and the math.

That covers a lot of territory.

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Re: Benford's Law
« Reply #21 on: November 08, 2020, 06:22:45 pm »
Now if we could just get the left to follow the science and the math.

It is settled.

There is no hope for a guy like Le Moron.

Sez talking Barbi:  "Math class is TOUGH!"
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Re: Benford's Law
« Reply #22 on: November 08, 2020, 07:42:54 pm »
Technical detail for those interested at


https://mathworld.wolfram.com/BenfordsLaw.html


It would seem those creating votes are unaware of Benford's Law and
the government use of it for fraud. It is the leading digits that betray
in this case criminal behavior.

I'll have to take your word on this, @Slide Rule

Calculus aside, my interest in mathematics went South in my first Trig class.   :laugh:

@Bigun   thanks for the ping to this thread!   :beer:
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Re: Benford's Law
« Reply #23 on: November 08, 2020, 07:54:37 pm »
I'll have to take your word on this, @Slide Rule

Calculus aside, my interest in mathematics went South in my first Trig class.   :laugh:

@Bigun   thanks for the ping to this thread!   :beer:

@DCPatriot ALL you have to do is take a close look at the Graphic @Slide Rule included above! See which race is at variance with all the others.
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Re: Benford's Law
« Reply #24 on: November 08, 2020, 08:08:48 pm »
I'll have to take your word on this, @Slide Rule

Calculus aside, my interest in mathematics went South in my first Trig class.   :laugh:

@Bigun   thanks for the ping to this thread!   :beer:

A so called Biden win is something from nothing. It is mathematically provable.
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