Donald Trump’s Self-Inflicted Wounds Make For An Unlikely Reelection, Experts Say

[DCPatriot]

Let me play devil's advocate here for a moment.  Let's say that @roamer_1 doesn't vote for Trump.  Does that mean Biden wins Montana's three electoral votes?  Keep in mind that Trump won by over 20% in 2016.

That's not the point here.   I live in Maryland where my single GOP vote means squat in a presidential election.

But I, and anybody else who decides to take him on with sound valid reasons for their supporting the POTUS is meant with "meh"...going on 5 years here.

He's a one-trick pony (fiscal conservatism), ignoring the stark contrast in the difference in the two parties' platform.  He'd rather pontificate...preach.

We need this election to save the Republic.   And make no mistake @Hoodat .  Despite your dislike of me, electing Donald Trump in 2016 saved the Republic.  [see Supreme Court].

Nobody would be talking about "stacking the court" if it was Hillary Clinton's three nominations/judges sitting on the court today.

[roamer_1]

He's a one-trick pony (fiscal conservatism), ignoring the stark contrast in the difference in the two parties' platform.  He'd rather pontificate...preach.

No @DCPatriot ... The emphasis on fiscal conservatism is simply the most grievous and blatant betrayal of Conservative principles...  I simply cannot vote for him AT ALL, because I will not throw FICONS under the bus... I made that vow 40 years ago, and I will not break it for the supposed expediency of the hour.

I can wreck him from every conservative position if you'd like. So face it, He is not conservative, nor is this about conservatism, but rather 'the stark contrast in the difference of the two party's platforms'... which as an argument concedes that it isn't about conservatism... and IS about scary democrats... As always.

I don't scare. I will never vote in fear.
And since that does not work, and it ain't about conservatism, why the hell would you think I would vote for it?

[LegalAmerican]

That's not the point here.   I live in Maryland where my single GOP vote doesn't mean squat in a presidential election.

But I, and anybody else who decides to take him on with sound valid reasons for their supporting the POTUS is meant with "meh"...going on 5 years here.

He's a one-trick pony (fiscal conservatism), ignoring the stark contrast in the difference in the two parties' platform.  He'd rather pontificate...preach.

We need this election to save the Republic.   And make no mistake @Hoodat .  Despite your
dislike of me, electing Donald Trump in 2016 saved the Republic.  [see Supreme Court].

Nobody would be talking about "stacking the court" if it was Hillary Clinton's three nominations/judges sitting on the court today.

 

[LegalAmerican]

If people who live in America, can't SEE, why they need to vote for POTUS TRUMP, it means to me, they are left leaners.  Something not 'right' in their thinking.  Anyone, "RIGHT", knows we need to save the REPUBLIC and it is not about how any LEFTS, FEELINGS....FEEL...or how they have TRUMP ENVY.  IT IS ABOUT SAVING AMERICA.  THAT IS THE BOTTOM LINE.  You either suck it up, vote for AMERICA  or you will NOT have an America.  Why does this even have to be said?  It is obvious to me.

[roamer_1]

If people who live in America, can't SEE, why they need to vote for POTUS TRUMP, it means to me, they are left leaners.  Something not 'right' in their thinking.  Anyone, "RIGHT", knows we need to save the REPUBLIC and it is not about how any LEFTS, FEELINGS....FEEL...or how they have TRUMP ENVY.  IT IS ABOUT SAVING AMERICA.  THAT IS THE BOTTOM LINE.  You either suck it up, vote for AMERICA  or you will NOT have an America.  Why does this even have to be said?  It is obvious to me.

Oh horseshit. Now it's down to 'Because 'Murica' 
What sophomoric crap.

[libertybele]

Oh horseshit. Now it's down to 'Because 'Murica' 
What sophomoric crap.

   The only guarantee that I see is that Biden will take us towards socialism.  No other guarantees. I do see a slight glimmer of hope with Trump -- but certainly no guarantee, especially if the GOP loses the Senate, which is looking likely.

[LegalAmerican]

There is NO "SELF INFLICTED WOUND'. by POTUS.  EVERY ARTICLE BY COMMUNIST MEDIA IS NEGATIVE. ALWAYS.

 SOROS AND other LEFTS are behind this. I am personally sick of it.  POTUS TRUMP IS THE BEST.  FOR AMERICA. 

[roamer_1]

  The only guarantee that I see is that Biden will take us towards socialism.  No other guarantees. I do see a slight glimmer of hope with Trump -- but certainly no guarantee, especially if the GOP loses the Senate, which is looking likely.

Yep... But we are going toward socialism ANYWAY. Anyone defending this administration must in the end explain the massive spending, and somehow justify it as 'not socialism'. Which is impossible. the only reason to spend all that money is big.gov, and big.gov IS socialism, one way or another.

[LegalAmerican]

Oh horseshit. Now it's down to 'Because 'Murica' 
What sophomoric crap.

It is the truth. It ALWAYS, was about saving America.  You didn't know that?  MAGA.  MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN. 
But you prefer communism to capitalism.  The fact, you had to go vulgar, in posting to me, just proves my point, even more. OF COURSE IT IS ABOUT AMERICA.  DUH. Where you been?   You support OMAR, AOC, PRESSLEY, HARRIS?  ALL COMMUNISTS.

[DCPatriot]

Yep... But we are going toward socialism ANYWAY. Anyone defending this administration must in the end explain the massive spending, and somehow justify it as 'not socialism'. Which is impossible. the only reason to spend all that money is big.gov, and big.gov IS socialism, one way or another.

IOW, if this election were a battle to take a hill suffering hundreds of casualties with no guarantee of success, you'd cut and run... then be executed for cowardice in the face of the Enemy.

[roamer_1]

It is the truth. It ALWAYS, was about saving America.  You didn't know that?  MAGA.  MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN. 
But you prefer communism to capitalism.  The fact, you had to go vulgar, in posting to me, just proves my point, even more. OF COURSE IT IS ABOUT AMERICA.  DUH. Where you been?   You support OMAR, AOC, PRESSLEY, HARRIS?  ALL COMMUNISTS.

No it's not. It's about big, big government. And a stolen slogan means nothing.

The bet now is going to be if he can spend TWENTY TRILLION DOLLARS by the end of the year. I think he can get it done, whether he is reelected or not. 

woohoo1 

[roamer_1]

IOW, if this election were a battle to take a hill suffering hundreds of casualties with no guarantee of success, you'd cut and run... then be executed for cowardice in the face of the Enemy.

@DCPatriot
Nope. Because I ain't in your dumbass army.

[DCPatriot]

@roamer_1

Just for you....   

[berdie]

Yep... But we are going toward socialism ANYWAY. Anyone defending this administration must in the end explain the massive spending, and somehow justify it as 'not socialism'. Which is impossible. the only reason to spend all that money is big.gov, and big.gov IS socialism, one way or another.

As sad as I am to say this...it supersedes government spending. Our young people are being indoctrinated. They truly think the government is Uncle Sugar Daddy. Sure, a lot of our generation may have been liberal back in the day. But most changed as they aged. I don't see that happening with the younger folks. I do see a lot of "free, free, free" mentality. Of course it ain't free...but these unenlightened idgits think it is.

If we were actuality able to find a true conservative the Dems would run an "I'll give you every thing you need" candidate*...and we would lose. And I also think that a person that would do the best things for this country...wouldn't run. I don't blame them. Nobody wants to do what needs to be done...or can. The best than we can hope for is delay and maybe the time to prepare.

*Obama will pay my rent and buy my gas lady.

[libertybele]

Yep... But we are going toward socialism ANYWAY. Anyone defending this administration must in the end explain the massive spending, and somehow justify it as 'not socialism'. Which is impossible. the only reason to spend all that money is big.gov, and big.gov IS socialism, one way or another.

I haven't researched it, but I'd like to see the figures on Trump's spending vs. $$ coming into this country before COVID hit -- certainly throwing $$ at COVID (and in many instances a]it was a necessity) is a big part of the picture.

[roamer_1]

As sad as I am to say this...it supersedes government spending. Our young people are being indoctrinated. They truly think the government is Uncle Sugar Daddy. Sure, a lot of our generation may have been liberal back in the day. But most changed as they aged. I don't see that happening with the younger folks. I do see a lot of "free, free, free" mentality. Of course it ain't free...but these unenlightened idgits think it is.

If we were actuality able to find a true conservative the Dems would run an "I'll give you every thing you need" candidate*...and we would lose. And I also think that a person that would do the best things for this country...wouldn't run. I don't blame them. Nobody wants to do what needs to be done...or can. The best than we can hope for is delay and maybe the time to prepare.

*Obama will pay my rent and buy my gas lady.

See @berdie , I see that differently.  WHY is there no official opposition to that indoctrination? And there is NONE. I think that is on purpose... Folks point at the eeeevil democrats to keep you from worrying about your own house. To keep you from wondering how it is even through years when Republicans had all houses, nothing... NOTHING got fixed.

I say it's well past time to put our own house in order and quit succumbing to fear and settling for lesser evil.

The reason the Democrats are winning is not by merit. There is no merit.
So the only other reason can only be that they have no opposition.

Worry less about what democrats do and more about why Republicans have allowed it, and maybe then you'll start to see my angle on things, and why it is so very important to move back toward Conservative orthodoxy. And why I refuse to settle for less.

[DCPatriot]

@DCPatriot
Nope. Because I ain't in your dumbass army.

@roamer_1

No... you're a draft dodger hiding out in Montana wiping your ass with rhubarb. 

[roamer_1]

I haven't researched it, but I'd like to see the figures on Trump's spending vs. $$ coming into this country before COVID hit -- certainly throwing $$ at COVID (and in many instances a]it was a necessity) is a big part of the picture.

He was already outspending Obummer before the Woohan hit. by nearing double.
And there is some complicity thereafter - He's part and parcel of the shutdown and so he bears responsibility in that extra cost and the destruction of the market which drove the covid spending.

[corbe]

Reasonably *for* Amy Coney Barrett...Hopeful there.
Good pro-life moves, though largely typical... still for that.
Israel comes immediately to mind. Directly happy with the embassy move.
Defended him at the start of the Wuhan... Till he folded. But I backed him off the front.
Defended direct action taken to deliver masks by allowing 3m to sell their industrial n95 for med purposes Generally for his forward (preliminary) actions wrt Wuhan... It was the shut down that pissed me off.
For his initial moves on the wall.
Generally for his oil moves. For keystone. For releasing federal lands in AK
Tax cut was great - Needed to be followed with spending cuts, which is my bitch, but I was for the tax cut when it happened.

And there is more.
It's all in the record right here. However, most of it doesn't count. Most of what he has done that I am *FOR*, and even defended are, in the end, EOs and temporary anyway. Positive, fine. But worth nothing in the long game. Candy from the front of the parade.

In that, you're right. But there ain't a damn thing I can do to make that somehow better. It's all worthless in the end. Gone. And the shit he did is written in law.

   That may all be true @roamer_1 (and I believe it) BUT what negates all of that is that you call Trump ~ Tumpy!!!!   

[mystery-ak]

Alrighty then...I guess it's time..