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Really?  I can't think of one time you've praised him without finding some way of balancing it with something to run him down at the same time.  Maybe you could refresh my memory?

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Really?  I can't think of one time you've praised him without finding some way of balancing it with something to run him down at the same time.  Maybe you could refresh my memory?
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@Victoria33  isn't it up to the precinct captain to determine which ballots are thrown out?  If the precinct captain leans DEM, don't you think that it is a possibility that they would likely make exceptions??
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I just found this post of yours.  Mail ballots don't go to a precinct judge.  They are mailed or taken to a mail drop off box, and go to the courthouse where the elections administrator is. 

How a precinct judge is appointed:
In a precinct, in the last election for governor, a Republican governor won in that precinct, the judge is a Republican.  So, in Texas, in the vast majority of precincts, the judge is a Republican.  The alternate judge will be a Democrat.

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There's another article posted here concurrently reporting there have been 300k+ ballots already been rejected in Pennsylvania.
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Dear skeeter, Could you find that and send me the link?  I want to read that.

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Dear skeeter, Could you find that and send me the link?  I want to read that.

Here y'go... http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,417495.0.html

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Dear skeeter, Could you find that and send me the link?  I want to read that.

I believe that those were actually duplicate requests for ballots that were rejected.


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Here y'go... http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,417495.0.html

From your own link those were not ballots that were rejected. They were duplicate requests for ballots.

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Theres not much the president can do about CAs motor voter laws, unsolicited ballot mass mailings and ballot harvesting rules.
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California motor voter is like this:
If one goes to a state building for a driver's license or to renew one, or for a ID card, he/she is asked if they want to register to be a voter.  If the person does, an application to be a voter is filled out - that application goes to the State Director of Elections, and it is checked to determine if the person is allowed to be a voter.  If he/she is, the name and details are sent to the county where the voter lives and the name is put on the county voter list.

"unsolicited ballot mass mailings and ballot harvesting rules."

In both cases, mail ballots come in.  No matter how they got there, each one is examined to determine if the ballot materials are correct.  If they are not, the ballot is rejected.
In most cases, fraud people will screw up the ballot materials and the ballots will be rejected.  (psst: don't tell the fraud people how to correctly send in the mail ballots)
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From your own link those were not ballots that were rejected. They were duplicate requests for ballots.

Right. I wasn't trying to make any point, just sharing an article.

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Right. I wasn't trying to make any point, just sharing an article.

One could phrase it:  "300K were prevented from illegally voting."
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California motor voter is like this:
If one goes to a state building for a driver's license or to renew one, or for a ID card, he/she is asked if they want to register to be a voter.  If the person does, an application to be a voter is filled out - that application goes to the State Director of Elections, and it is checked to determine if the person is allowed to be a voter.  If he/she is, the name and details are sent to the county where the voter lives and the name is put on the county voter list.

"unsolicited ballot mass mailings and ballot harvesting rules."

In both cases, mail ballots come in.  No matter how they got there, each one is examined to determine if the ballot materials are correct.  If they are not, the ballot is rejected.
In most cases, fraud people will screw up the ballot materials and the ballots will be rejected.  (psst: don't tell the fraud people how to correctly send in the mail ballots)

What criteria is applied by the California Director of Elections to determine whether an applicant from the DMV is eligible to vote?

My mother in law recounted how a very nice young lady showed up at her retirement community to 'help' the residents fill out and sign their ballots. That kind of help is happening on a massive scale in California, its a cynical manipulation of the system and you can see its ultimate results when you visit any large California community, save perhaps San Diego.

I believe when each voter has to actually apply themselves - learn the issues and candidates and actually get up off their arse and go to the polls in order to exercise their civic duty - the results are much more amenable to our form of government and liberties.

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One could phrase it:  "300K were prevented from illegally voting."

Yep. 375k ballots that would have otherwise helped select the winner.

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ENOUGH!!!

Why don't you cut your bullshit and stop your trolling?? 

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You keep assuring us that Trump will lose.  I would remind you there is only one vote (out of over 100 Million) you can say you know about with certainty.  Outside of that, you only know what the press tells you, and not a whit more.

I'm not "assuring" anyone,  and I hope he can pull off an upset.  But I can see what's going down.   The problem isn't Trump's policies,  it is antipathy toward Trump himself,  ginned up to be sure by an unrelentingly hostile press pushing the narrative of a return to "normalcy".

Some normalcy -  court packing,  tax hikes,  more lockdowns,  the triumph of socialism.    Sure wish we could run against all that and not have to defend Trump's gosh-damn tweetstorms.
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I'm not "assuring" anyone,  and I hope he can pull off an upset.  But I can see what's going down.   The problem isn't Trump's policies,  it is antipathy toward Trump himself,  ginned up to be sure by an unrelentingly hostile press pushing the narrative of a return to "normalcy".

Some normalcy -  court packing,  tax hikes,  more lockdowns,  the triumph of socialism.    Sure wish we could run against all that and not have to defend Trump's gosh-damn tweetstorms.

But for his "tweetstorms," you would know nothing because President Clinton would never let you find out.

You have been claiming for years that Trump cannot be reelected, after telling us he could not have been elected in the first place.  Your batting average is .000.
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Really?  I can't think of one time you've praised him without finding some way of balancing it with something to run him down at the same time.  Maybe you could refresh my memory?

Reasonably *for* Amy Coney Barrett...Hopeful there.
Good pro-life moves, though largely typical... still for that.
Israel comes immediately to mind. Directly happy with the embassy move.
Defended him at the start of the Wuhan... Till he folded. But I backed him off the front.
Defended direct action taken to deliver masks by allowing 3m to sell their industrial n95 for med purposes Generally for his forward (preliminary) actions wrt Wuhan... It was the shut down that pissed me off.
For his initial moves on the wall.
Generally for his oil moves. For keystone. For releasing federal lands in AK
Tax cut was great - Needed to be followed with spending cuts, which is my bitch, but I was for the tax cut when it happened.

And there is more.
It's all in the record right here. However, most of it doesn't count. Most of what he has done that I am *FOR*, and even defended are, in the end, EOs and temporary anyway. Positive, fine. But worth nothing in the long game. Candy from the front of the parade.

In that, you're right. But there ain't a damn thing I can do to make that somehow better. It's all worthless in the end. Gone. And the shit he did is written in law.

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What criteria is applied by the California Director of Elections to determine whether an applicant from the DMV is eligible to vote? My mother in law recounted how a very nice young lady showed up at her retirement community to 'help' the residents fill out and sign their ballots. That kind of help is happening on a massive scale in California, its a cynical manipulation of the system and you can see its ultimate results when you visit any large California community, save perhaps San Diego.   I believe when each voter has to actually apply themselves - learn the issues and candidates and actually get up off their arse and go to the polls in order to exercise their civic duty - the results are much more amenable to our form of government and liberties.
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Have to talk to son, Wayne, at 1 pm today, it is 11:43 am right now.  After I talk to him, will look up California law specific to your two questions, but here are the answers:
When an application to be a voter comes into the Secretary of State, Elections Division, the name is checked for correct address, whether applicant is a felon, any Passport is checked, name is compared to death certificates, whether applicant is legally in the United States.  If the voter passes this check, the Elections Division contacts the county in which he/she lives and the name is added to the voter list.

Nursing Homes:
Remember, just because a ballot comes in, does not mean it is counted.

It is illegal to help more than one person fill out his/her ballot, unless the helper is kin to them.  On the ballot or on the ballot materials, it asks for the name of the helper, both in printing and in signature and address is required.  This is the reason the District Attorney of the county where I lived, tried to get me out of being the Early Voting Ballot Board Judge - my board, half Democrat and half Republicans, tossed out nursing home ballots.
The county had never followed the law about nursing home ballots.  This case against me went to our State Attorney General, who was John Cornyn.  After a six month wait, he ruled in my favor, which I knew he would.

Back to nursing homes:
The Democrats, always them, who went to the nursing homes to "help" residents vote, did not fill out the required personal information about themselves, and some put their name on there, so we had many that showed this person had helped many residents, and the law is the helper can only help one.  So, we threw those ballots out.  I was that Judge for many years.  The county District Attorney was beaten at his next election, and he blamed me for his loss.  But, I went to him at the beginning when he started after me, and told him not to do it because he was wrong.  He said he was doing it.

Later today, will find the actual California laws regarding these two matters.
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Let me play devil's advocate here for a moment.  Let's say that @roamer_1 doesn't vote for Trump.  Does that mean Biden wins Montana's three electoral votes?  Keep in mind that Trump won by over 20% in 2016.
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Don't make me come in here, because I'll have this thread locked in 3-2-1....   :smokin:

This is true.  Getting threads locked is one of @DCPatriot 's best talents.
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@skeeter

Have to talk to son, Wayne, at 1 pm today, it is 11:43 am right now.  After I talk to him, will look up California law specific to your two questions, but here are the answers:
When an application to be a voter comes into the Secretary of State, Elections Division, the name is checked for correct address, whether applicant is a felon, any Passport is checked, name is compared to death certificates, whether applicant is legally in the United States.  If the voter passes this check, the Elections Division contacts the county in which he/she lives and the name is added to the voter list.

Nursing Homes:
Remember, just because a ballot comes in, does not mean it is counted.

It is illegal to help more than one person fill out his/her ballot, unless the helper is kin to them.  On the ballot or on the ballot materials, it asks for the name of the helper, both in printing and in signature and address is required.  This is the reason the District Attorney of the county where I lived, tried to get me out of being the Early Voting Ballot Board Judge - my board, half Democrat and half Republicans, tossed out nursing home ballots.
The county had never followed the law about nursing home ballots.  This case against me went to our State Attorney General, who was John Cornyn.  After a six month wait, he ruled in my favor, which I knew he would.

Back to nursing homes:
The Democrats, always them, who went to the nursing homes to "help" residents vote, did not fill out the required personal information about themselves, and some put their name on there, so we had many that showed this person had helped many residents, and the law is the helper can only help one.  So, we threw those ballots out.  I was that Judge for many years.  The county District Attorney was beaten at his next election, and he blamed me for his loss.  But, I went to him at the beginning when he started after me, and told him not to do it because he was wrong.  He said he was doing it.

Later today, will find the actual California laws regarding these two matters.
Thanks for the information. All I can say is I wish I had your faith in our system.

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Thanks for the information. All I can say is I wish I had your faith in our system.
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The state "has rejected 372,000 requests for mail-in ballots," with "more than 90% of those applications, or about 336,000," occurring due to duplicate requests, ProPublica reported this week.

Thanks for that link.  Here is what happened:

"According to ProPublica, the significant number of duplicate applications came about largely due to voters having requested a general election ballot during the state's primary election as well as closer to the general election itself."

Let's look at how this happened.
When filling out an application for mail ballot in a primary, the form has a place to check if you want a mail ballot for the general election.  That means you will automatically get a mail ballot for the general election.

Then the voter doesn't think about that as the general election approaches, so voter sends in application for general election ballot.  That is how these voters got two ballots.  If they completed two ballots, that would get caught when a board checks ballots.  The one requested for the general election would be thrown out and the first one the voter voted, would be counted if the correct info. is on it.
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"Thanks for the information. All I can say is I wish I had your faith in our system."
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After so many years working in elections in Texas and I helped Florida in their election mess between Bush and Gore, I know how elections work behind the scenes.  There are many checks and balances so it is difficult for fraud to actually work.

I taught "Texas Election Code" in numerous counties.  I had to know that election code book in detail in order to teach it.  I knew the Texas State Director of Elections, and we were buddies making sure our Texas elections were done correctly.

One more thing, if you are going to play the game of politics/elections, you have to know the rules to win.  The rules are that State's Election Code.
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Massive voter fraud ongoing in Houston, Texas.....

and that is just one city.


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Biden’s Texas Political Director Implicated in Massive Mail-In Ballot Harvesting Scheme in Harris County

https://amgreatness.com/2020/09/28/bidens-texas-political-director-implicated-in-massive-mail-in-ballot-harvesting-scheme-in-harris-county/
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I'm not "assuring" anyone,  and I hope he can pull off an upset.  But I can see what's going down.   The problem isn't Trump's policies,  it is antipathy toward Trump himself,  ginned up to be sure by an unrelentingly hostile press pushing the narrative of a return to "normalcy".

Some normalcy -  court packing,  tax hikes,  more lockdowns,  the triumph of socialism.    Sure wish we could run against all that and not have to defend Trump's gosh-damn tweetstorms.

What?  POTUS TRUMP..is just fine the way he is.  He did not create anything evil....HE JUST OUTED IT.  The evil has been here for DECADES!  OBAMA PROMOTED ALL THAT EVIL.  Obama even funded some RIOTS..like in Ferguson.
Chicago. Then Baltimore.  Why would you be against POTUS TRUMP?  ZERO WRONG with his tweets too.  LEFT MEDIA, distorts his words,  his accomplishments, anything POSITIVE he has done for America. Tweeting allows him to tell the real truth, and LEFT MEDIA is who started the 'ISSUE" with his tweeting.  You fell, right into that dogma.  Below, ties into the case FOR POTUS TRUMP.  3 Noble Peace prize nominations for POTUS TRUMP, with brining peace to M.E. Is MEDIA DOING HAND STANDS ABOUT THAT?  He had another nomination, last year from Japan.


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Right. I wasn't trying to make any point, just sharing an article.

BIDENS..hand on that man's knee,  just UNNERVES ME!  WHAT A CREEP!  Same with pedo, Hunter, just like dad.