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Offline roamer_1

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I guess maybe that's why I asked for enlightenment.   :shrug:

Similar to the crap accusing him of pro-abortion and amnesty - The devil ain't in the details on this stuff. It's in the broad strokes.

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Thank you for making my point.
Of course that is your opinion, but once again, the factual evidence of what Adams says is in variance to what you express.

Adams is talking about voting, and you are talking about abstaining to vote, so your statements are irrelevant and in fact erroneous to what you propagandized as factual.

Your statement that 'according to the Founders' is not supported by Adams.
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Of course that is your opinion, but once again, the factual evidence of what Adams says is in variance to what you express.

Adams is talking about voting, and you are talking about abstaining to vote, so your statements are irrelevant and in fact erroneous to what you propagandized as factual.

Your statement that 'according to the Founders' is not supported by Adams.

No, Adams is talking about conscience.



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No, Adams is talking about conscience.
Wrong again, but who's counting?

He is talking about voting using one's conscience to not vote for an individual, but to vote for what is good for the country.

Note he is not talking about abstaining to vote.
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Wrong again, but who's counting?

He is talking about voting using one's conscience to not vote for an individual, but to vote for what is good for the country.

Note he is not talking about abstaining to vote.

No. Adams is not telling you to solemnly decide before God between a sh*t sandwich and a turd burger.

If none of what's on the ballot is good for the country, then abstaining is all one can do... And that is what I will do... To borrow from Luther with the same meaning and emphasis: Here I stand, I can do no other.

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I'll add that every eligible American that chooses not to vote deserves what they get as well as they have tacitly agreed to accept the will of others to rule over them rather than execute their duty as a citizen.

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What a load of crap.

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How are you going to post to TBR when you are holed up hiding in your cave up in the mountains,while other people do your fighting for you?
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Again, this is error.


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You just keep telling yourself that if that's what you need to do to make it through the day,but you are too smart to really believe it.
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I know someone like that too. His reason for not voting is he doesn’t want to do jury duty. I liked jury duty the one time I did it. I hope I get called again.

@Gefn

I've been called twice,and got picked neither time.

Then again,most of the local authorities know me,and know that I consider "the law" to usually have nothing to do with justice. They want people they know they can count on to convict "because if he wadn't guilty,why they be arresting him?"

I ain't one of those people.
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Again, this is error.

The only demand the voter must fulfill, according to the founders, is to cast their vote with every judgement of conscience

Ahhh,now you are reduced to declaring the government the ultimate authority on right and wrong.

Good to know.


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How are you going to post to TBR when you are holed up hiding in your cave up in the mountains,while other people do your fighting for you?

I would be more likely to fight than many here. The difference being the cause. If you think I will fight for Republicans thinking they are better Democrats than the Democrats, NOPE. Not my circus there.

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100 years ago, suffragettes fought for the right for women to vote.

I do feel sad when women don’t vote. Our grandmothers, and great grandmothers went through all that so we could vote. And so many don’t show up at the polls like they couldn’t be bothered.


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And when they do,too often they vote for the "handsomest candidate",or the one with the "cutest kids".

Ever seen women attending a Ted Kennedy campaign event being interviewed by a reporter asking truly deep,probing questions about why they were voting for Ted?

They gave answers like "He's so handsome! All the Kennedy men are handsome and so charming,I just love them!"
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You just keep telling yourself that if that's what you need to do to make it through the day,but you are too smart to really believe it.

No, I believe it with every fiber of my being. To sully my vote for the likes of this Republican administration or party would be a travesty. I will NOT endorse the pillaging of my neighbors' wealth.

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Ahhh,now you are reduced to declaring the government the ultimate authority on right and wrong.

Good to know.

No. Adams says I must consider my vote as a solemnity before God. Assuming his is the same god as mine, which is a fair assumption, that would be the authority to which he refers and appeals.

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I am still hopeful that conservatives decide to work on a "Big Ticket" boycott of a Biden economy, in case he wins.

So much campaign rhetoric is wedged in unemployment, CPI, GDP, etc. numbers.  Time to squeeze these socialist by the balls, and make them squeal.

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Kinda late to do that after our last election,ain't it?
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I would be more likely to fight than many here. The difference being the cause. 

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No,the difference will be they will have to go looking for you in some cave up in the mountains.

Kinda late to start fighting after the "war" is over.
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No,the difference will be they will have to go looking for you in some cave up in the mountains.

Kinda late to start fighting after the "war" is over.

Nah - Once my family is out of the way, I'll be back. Well within a mile of it or so.

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I just can't see the markets doing well with Biden, consdering the last downturn this spring was due to governors shutting down their states and grinding their economies to a halt.

With Biden that risk will be much more of a possible reality than with Trump, and that risk will be factored into the markets if he wins.
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Ronald Reagan signed bills that increased the National Debt.  You should be against him?

We've gone exponentially past that deficit spending... Ending the cold war was expensive but it would have been much more expensive to continue. What war are we trying to win with the current level of deficit spending? What's the return on that spending?

We're committing national suicide. The only offered choice is how fast.

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I just can't see the markets doing well with Biden, consdering the last downturn this spring was due to governors shutting down their states and grinding their economies to a halt.

With Biden that risk will be much more of a possible reality than with Trump, and that risk will be factored into the markets if he wins.

The market goes up when government spends like a banshee because the currency is devalued. I learned that the hard way under Obama. As it is devalued it takes more money to purchase things, including stocks. So the markets going up can be an illusion of positive progress when in fact is the falling of the dollar.

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The market goes up when government spends like a banshee because the currency is devalued. I learned that the hard way under Obama. As it is devalued it takes more money to purchase things, including stocks. So the markets going up can be an illusion of positive progress when in fact is the falling of the dollar.

True, but that will be outfactored if the economy takes another dive due to Democrat powermongering.
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And still unanswered from my adjacent comments: Where did those votes come from?
People who thought they might have (again) a fighting chance to set things right, like Charlie Brown going to really, really, kick the football, this time.
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People who thought they might have (again) a fighting chance to set things right, like Charlie Brown going to really, really, kick the football, this time.

Right. My point being they came from the great unwashed. They weren't stolen from the Democrats. They came from folks busy with their lives that heard the call and went in, REGISTERED, and VOTED for the first time in a while. By MILLLIONS.

JUST the Christians who tend to be fairly responsible, swell WAY beyond the normal 30m or so... How many people swelled the ranks to Taxed Enough Already??? That was also way more than normal.

They come from the disenfranchised non-voters. and that has never built a juggernaut for the RIGHT by playing to the LEFT.

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Kinda late to do that after our last election,ain't it?

My suggestion is for conservatives witholding sales, impacting numbers, helping deep 6 Biden's stats as they come 2021-2024.

Snake Face Carville did nail one deep political truth....  "Its the economy stupid"
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