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Firearm Microstamping Bill Signed By Gov. Newsom
« on: October 03, 2020, 01:55:10 am »
California Globe By Evan Symon, October 1, 2020

AB 2847 will also gradually reduce the number of handgun types for sale in California

Earlier this week, Governor Gavin Newsom signed into law a bill that requires newer model handguns in California to be microstamped.

Gun manufacturers and firearm advocates denounced the decision, noting that it not only violates Second Amendment rights and would increase black market activity and  and non-registered weapons in the state, but would also hurt economically during a time of economic downturn.

Assembly Bill 2847, authored by Assemblyman David Chiu (D-San Francisco), specifically notes that microstamping, which imprints tiny markings on cartridges that had been fired from the weapon for quicker police identification, will have to be in at least one part of the interior of the handgun, replacing the current law of having it on two or more places that had been deemed difficult by gun manufacturers and law enforcement alike. The bill will also quicken the process of having more microstamped guns instead of non-microstamped guns in circulation by removing three non-compliant handguns from the state roster of sellable handguns for every new, AB 2847 following model added to the list.

More: https://californiaglobe.com/section-2/firearm-microstamping-bill-signed-by-gov-newsom/

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Re: Firearm Microstamping Bill Signed By Gov. Newsom
« Reply #1 on: October 03, 2020, 03:27:14 pm »
Does such a technology exist outside of some laboratory where manufacturability and gun reliability do not matter? Does such a technology exist anywhere outside of Gun-Haters' imagination?
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Re: Firearm Microstamping Bill Signed By Gov. Newsom
« Reply #2 on: October 03, 2020, 05:10:53 pm »
Does such a technology exist outside of some laboratory where manufacturability and gun reliability do not matter? Does such a technology exist anywhere outside of Gun-Haters' imagination?
Nothing that can't be fixed with a few seconds and a Dremel tool or file...

Stuck on stupid, but we haven't seen the 'ammo made of unobtanium' requirements yet.
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Re: Firearm Microstamping Bill Signed By Gov. Newsom
« Reply #3 on: October 04, 2020, 02:01:51 am »
Does such a technology exist outside of some laboratory where manufacturability and gun reliability do not matter? Does such a technology exist anywhere outside of Gun-Haters' imagination?
The only reality Noisome and his demagoguing socialist cohorts care about is removing the ability of law abiding Californians to defend themselves. They have made ammunition extremely difficult to purchase, even before the Covid shortage and now they are whittling down the list of guns they are 'allowing' us to buy.
 What they are doing is turning thousands of otherwise law abiding Californians into criminals as they go out of state to make the ammunition purchases they need and probably the guns that we are not 'allowed' to have. The instance democrats believe in 'Shall Not Be Infringed' is when they apply it to the extralegal rights they afford illegals and other criminals.




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Re: Firearm Microstamping Bill Signed By Gov. Newsom
« Reply #4 on: October 04, 2020, 03:36:11 pm »
Someone please explain to me how this will prevent these guns from going rogue,and gunning down innocent people at random?

More importantly,will the unfortunate people that buy them have to have matching numbers tattooed on their foreheads so they can be identified as quickly as the guns that control their thoughts?
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Re: Firearm Microstamping Bill Signed By Gov. Newsom
« Reply #5 on: October 04, 2020, 04:32:36 pm »
Someone please explain to me how this will prevent these guns from going rogue,and gunning down innocent people at random?

More importantly,will the unfortunate people that buy them have to have matching numbers tattooed on their foreheads so they can be identified as quickly as the guns that control their thoughts?

I suspect this move is intended to create new felons whose weapons don't microstamp cartridges, either through normal wear and tear of firing pins, or by Dremel tool.
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Re: Firearm Microstamping Bill Signed By Gov. Newsom
« Reply #6 on: October 04, 2020, 04:43:52 pm »
I suspect this move is intended to create new felons whose weapons don't microstamp cartridges, either through normal wear and tear of firing pins, or by Dremel tool.

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I hadn't even thought of that,but once I did,I immediately recognized it as a step towards legal confiscation of all guns that weren't micro-stampted.

Which is every firearm already in existence.
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« Reply #7 on: October 04, 2020, 04:46:18 pm »
@Cyber Liberty

I hadn't even thought of that,but once I did,I immediately recognized it as a step towards legal confiscation of all guns that weren't micro-stampted.

Which is every firearm already in existence.

It's pointless if people can't be turned into felons, isn't it?  They can't control law-abiding people, so they must make criminals of everybody.
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Re: Firearm Microstamping Bill Signed By Gov. Newsom
« Reply #8 on: October 04, 2020, 04:48:43 pm »
It's pointless if people can't be turned into felons, isn't it?  They can't control law-abiding people, so they must make criminals of everybody.

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I think you missed a step. Even Dim voters don't like being categorized as criminals,so what they are doing is BYPASSING the people,and making the GUNS the criminals.

Citizens in possession of guns are just accomplices that can be forgiven if they willingly give up their criminal guns.

How reasonable is THAT?
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Re: Firearm Microstamping Bill Signed By Gov. Newsom
« Reply #9 on: October 04, 2020, 04:52:23 pm »
Californians will just have to go buy their weapon out of state.   Kind of sucks for the CA dealers though.
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Re: Firearm Microstamping Bill Signed By Gov. Newsom
« Reply #10 on: October 04, 2020, 04:54:05 pm »
Californians will just have to go buy their weapon out of state.   Kind of sucks for the CA dealers though.

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WHAT dealers?

The few remaining gun dealers in a few years will be the ones in big cities that sell to the police.
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Re: Firearm Microstamping Bill Signed By Gov. Newsom
« Reply #11 on: October 05, 2020, 01:40:21 am »
Californians will just have to go buy their weapon out of state.   Kind of sucks for the CA dealers though.
Let me clarify something for you, there is a state approved list of handguns that Californians are 'allowed' to buy and all purchases must be finalized through a California based FFL who will not complete a purchase for an unapproved firearm since doing so would cost them their business and I think anyone purchasing a banned gun out of state and bringing it home is a felon. I remember in the early eighties California wasn't so bad and going with my FIL hunting in Colorado and going to a 'friends' house (we introduced ourselves on his porch and became 'friends') from whom we purchased several guns of which none were declared in California on our return.

 A judge tossed California's ammunition law in April but I do not know if they appealed or the status, but let me say it was so restrictive that I'm sure it gave Giffords, Kelly, et al, wet dreams thinking about doing it to other states

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Re: Firearm Microstamping Bill Signed By Gov. Newsom
« Reply #12 on: October 05, 2020, 01:51:04 am »
Let me clarify something for you, there is a state approved list of handguns that Californians are 'allowed' to buy and all purchases must be finalized through a California based FFL who will not complete a purchase for an unapproved firearm since doing so would cost them their business and I think anyone purchasing a banned gun out of state and bringing it home is a felon. I remember in the early eighties California wasn't so bad and going with my FIL hunting in Colorado and going to a 'friends' house (we introduced ourselves on his porch and became 'friends') from whom we purchased several guns of which none were declared in California on our return.

 A judge tossed California's ammunition law in April but I do not know if they appealed or the status, but let me say it was so restrictive that I'm sure it gave Giffords, Kelly, et al, wet dreams thinking about doing it to other states

Isn't it possible to claim an imported banned gun was purchased before the ban? Or do they have to be turned over as each is removed from the registry?

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« Reply #13 on: October 05, 2020, 04:05:36 am »
Isn't it possible to claim an imported banned gun was purchased before the ban? Or do they have to be turned over as each is removed from the registry?
I believe any gun pre ban is grandfathered in but there is such a long list of banned guns, sorry, unapproved guns and I am sure that they take a close look at serial numbers to verify manufacture dates. I firmly believe that spending money for personnel to screw us out of our gun rights is one of the top things on Noisome's list of priorities along with gay rights, healthcare for illegals, slave reparations and driving business and wealth out of California.