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[roamer_1]

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There is no "finer" examples of the human parasites that socialism brings than the creatures known as "Reservation Indians".

Anybody that thinks socialism is great needs to spend a couple of days on a reservation,taking in all they see.

It is a pretty desperate place. But even there, there are good people. Being a hillbilly, I have a lot of interaction with Natives. Mostly Salish, but also Blackfeet and Cheyenne... Because of that, I have had opportunity to meet off-rez Natives that have many relatives still on the rez, normally too old and poor to be elsewhere. The kind of people that raised their kids right - And got them free of the rez. That takes hella good folks.

[Victoria33]

At this point for me it is more fear than frustration -- fear that there will be massive interruptions at polling places and people won't get to vote and the votes that will be counted are of those that actually make it to the polls and mail-in-votes.  Those that couldn't get into the polls - -their votes obviously won't get counted because the polls will close.  There has been a huge push in my county to vote by mail.  We have received two applications now for mail-in voting.  That has never happened in the 30 years that we've been down here.  The application makes it look like it has been requested by the President himself, but the applications are being printed and mailed out by the county Supervisor of Elections.

@libertybele

1. "...fear that there will be massive interruptions at polling places and people won't get to vote..."

Each voting precinct has a distance marker around the polling place and the only people allowed past the marker is a voter going in to vote.  It is against the law for any other person to go past the marker.  If someone does that, the election judge has the power of a district judge and will call law enforcement and that person or people will be arrested.

2.  When it is time for the precinct to close on election day, those in line at that time, will be allowed to vote - anyone coming after closing time cannot vote.

3.  Mail-in ballots.  The board that evaluates mail-in ballots meets days before election day in order to validate the ballots.  (Trump seems to think nothing happens to mail ballots until election day - someone should tell him they are checked days before election day.)  Because of that, the only mail-in ballots validated on election day are those that came through the mail on election day.  At closing time on election day, the first ballots going through the machines are the early ballots and mail ballots.   

4.  "We have received two applications now for mail-in voting."
Sometimes, candidates send applications for mail ballots to older people.  If other people in that state can vote by mail, the candidate can send applications to all those people.
One of your applications may come from your Florida Republican Party.  Look on the applications for these words, likely in small print: "From the Florida Republican Party".  It will have the return address of the County Supervisor of Elections so when you mail it that is where it goes.

[Cyber Liberty]

@Victoria33 I don't know if your item #3 is true in all states.  It is in AZ, but I saw somebody talking about an eastern state (PA?) that doesn't even open the ballots until the morning of election day.

[Smokin Joe]

@Fishrrman

Well,I do remember the black radicals in the 60's telling young black men to try to impregnate every white girl that couldn't outrun them.

The idea being to bring down the whites while raising up the blacks at the same time.

They smoothed this approach up some in the 70's by trying to "guilt-trip" white girls into letting them throw a hump into them by accusing any that turned them down of being a bigot.

They have had pretty good luck with that program,too. All you have to do is look around and see it for yourself.

Having said that,there ARE some pretty damn sharp blacks running around out there,and I have known and been friends with a few. Ironically enough,it SEEMS like none of them were of mixed blood.

There is also the fact that the Asians seem to be to us,what whites are to the blacks. Part of that I am sure is due to their cultures promoting the value of hard work and families sticking together and helping each other.

WRT Asians vs Whites, the difference is that while (some of) the Whites promote excellence in their children, the Asians I have known demand it.
Those formative years spent learning fundamentals, being expected to do very well, if not be at the top of the class have an effect--that becomes habit, ingrained that you WILL do well, you expect it of yourself, and you aren't afraid to work to get there.

It doesn't matter if you have an IQ of 160. If you don't apply yourself, you are just a smart bum.

[Smokin Joe]

Close,but no cigar. The schools are warehouses for the drones that follow the orders of their master happily because they are "True Believers". These people,for the most part,have never had a thought of their own their whole lives.

Want to stop this stuff with the minimum amount of blood shed and strife? Go after people like Buffett and Soros in the US,and don't stop there. Go after the international bankers where ever you find them,and take them out.

Once the financing stops,it all falls apart.

Thats the stem, @sneakypete , it supports and feeds the rest of the plant. Girdle it, tap it, choke it off, cut it, the whole plant dies.

[Smokin Joe]

If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land. -2 Chronicles 7:14

[Victoria33]

@Victoria33 I don't know if your item #3 is true in all states.  It is in AZ, but I saw somebody talking about an eastern state (PA?) that doesn't even open the ballots until the morning of election day.

@Cyber Liberty

I doubt that for this election.  Every state knows their mail ballots will be huge this year - I do not think a state would wait until election day to check every mail ballot materials.

What is going to happen is the Board that checks them are going to throw thousands to hundreds of thousands out because they did not sign the application and/or the mail in envelope.  There must be two signatures to compare and if one is not there, they will reject it.  They can go to the original signature when they signed up to be a voter, and use that signature to compare to the one signature they have.  If the voter did not sign anything, just sent in the ballot and materials without signing anything, the ballot is thrown out.  I fear so many have never voted by mail, they won't read the directions.

Because so many will be rejected, there will be people who say the election is rigged because they threw out so many mail ballots. 

[Cyber Liberty]

@Cyber Liberty

I doubt that for this election.  Every state knows their mail ballots will be huge this year - I do not think a state would wait until election day to check every mail ballot materials.

What is going to happen is the Board that checks them are going to throw thousands to hundreds of thousands out because they did not sign the application and/or the mail in envelope.  There must be two signatures to compare and if one is not there, they will reject it.  They can go to the original signature when they signed up to be a voter, and use that signature to compare to the one signature they have.  If the voter did not sign anything, just sent in the ballot and materials without signing anything, the ballot is thrown out.  I fear so many have never voted by mail, they won't read the directions.

Because so many will be rejected, there will be people who say the election is rigged because they threw out so many mail ballots.

In many states (like AZ), if there is a problem with the signature, like being missing, the voter is called and asked to come in to "fix" it.  That's where the chicanery will come in.

[Victoria33]

In many states (like AZ), if there is a problem with the signature, like being missing, the voter is called and asked to come in to "fix" it.  That's where the chicanery will come in.

@Cyber Liberty

What would the "chicanery" be?

[libertybele]

@libertybele

1. "...fear that there will be massive interruptions at polling places and people won't get to vote..."

Each voting precinct has a distance marker around the polling place and the only people allowed past the marker is a voter going in to vote.  It is against the law for any other person to go past the marker.  If someone does that, the election judge has the power of a district judge and will call law enforcement and that person or people will be arrested.

2.  When it is time for the precinct to close on election day, those in line at that time, will be allowed to vote - anyone coming after closing time cannot vote.

3.  Mail-in ballots.  The board that evaluates mail-in ballots meets days before election day in order to validate the ballots.  (Trump seems to think nothing happens to mail ballots until election day - someone should tell him they are checked days before election day.)  Because of that, the only mail-in ballots validated on election day are those that came through the mail on election day.  At closing time on election day, the first ballots going through the machines are the early ballots and mail ballots.   

4.  "We have received two applications now for mail-in voting."
Sometimes, candidates send applications for mail ballots to older people.  If other people in that state can vote by mail, the candidate can send applications to all those people.
One of your applications may come from your Florida Republican Party.  Look on the applications for these words, likely in small print: "From the Florida Republican Party".  It will have the return address of the County Supervisor of Elections so when you mail it that is where it goes.

@Victoria33 yes, I realize that there are laws in place surrounding the polling places as you mentioned.  However, we are talking about groups such as BLM, Antifa, and other subversive groups that have already blocked entry ways and access to various different venues, destroyed buildings, attacked innocent civilians,  law enforcement officers, etc.  Most have not been held accountable, and the left is bailing these people out.  Do you really think they care if they're breaking voting precinct laws?  They are ruling by mob rule, getting away with it and could care less.

If you think "laws" are going to contain these people, you haven't been paying attention to what they're doing and what they're capable of.

[Victoria33]

@libertybele

You said: "If you think 'laws' are going to contain these people, you haven't been paying attention to what they're doing and what they're capable of."

You are correct these people don't care about the law, but the law gives officers the right to arrest them.  Without the law, they could do nothing to stop these people.

[libertybele]

@libertybele

You said: "If you think 'laws' are going to contain these people, you haven't been paying attention to what they're doing and what they're capable of."

You are correct these people don't care about the law, but the law gives officers the right to arrest them.  Without the law, they could do nothing to stop these people.

@Victoria33  Keep in mind that several cities have now defunded their police force, mayors have refused to contain the riots as well as governors.

Of course not in every city (yet), but IMHO I forsee those cities with a heavy GOP voting prevalence and their precincts being targets. 

Yes the police have the right to arrest these people -- but in taking a look at some of the cities, the police have been absolutely overwhelmed.   

I don't see a peaceful election day; not in the least.

[Cyber Liberty]

@Cyber Liberty

What would the "chicanery" be?

For openers, that would be casting a vote days/weeks after Election Day.

[roamer_1]

For openers, that would be casting a vote days/weeks after Election Day.

Yeah. I can see that. Instead of trunk loads of suddenly discovered ballots, it will be truckloads... Organized federally, wherever they find they need them.

[bilo]

I would have to agree @roamer_1    Racism largely exists in large liberal cities; Detroit, LA, Chicago, NYC, Philadelphia, Portland, Seattle, etc., etc.   

That liberal mindset has been entrenched in them by their liberal leaders and liberal schools for decades.   IF only they could see past all the lies and manipulation, what a different world we would live in.

Maybe among individuals, but not in law. We ended institutional/systemic racism a long time ago.

If you're looking for a time were nobody dislikes others because their different you will have to wait until Jesus the Christ returns.

[Smokin Joe]

@Victoria33  Keep in mind that several cities have now defunded their police force, mayors have refused to contain the riots as well as governors.

Of course not in every city (yet), but IMHO I forsee those cities with a heavy GOP voting prevalence and their precincts being targets. 

Yes the police have the right to arrest these people -- but in taking a look at some of the cities, the police have been absolutely overwhelmed.   

I don't see a peaceful election day; not in the least.

You left out prosecutors who refuse to prosecute, turning the efforts of police into a game of "Catch and release".

[sneakypete]

WRT Asians vs Whites, the difference is that while (some of) the Whites promote excellence in their children, the Asians I have known demand it.
Those formative years spent learning fundamentals, being expected to do very well, if not be at the top of the class have an effect--that becomes habit, ingrained that you WILL do well, you expect it of yourself, and you aren't afraid to work to get there.

It doesn't matter if you have an IQ of 160. If you don't apply yourself, you are just a smart bum.

@Smokin Joe

And there it is.

[libertybele]

Maybe among individuals, but not in law. We ended institutional/systemic racism a long time ago.

If you're looking for a time were nobody dislikes others because their different you will have to wait until Jesus the Christ returns.

By law yes. 

The point that I am trying to make is that in order to combat the coming marxism/communism and continued oppression I believe it will be necessary for Blacks and Whites to come together.  As long as we remain divided and don't stand up for our rights under the Constitution and in fact demand our rights under the Constitution, our Republic will not stand, we will be a divided and conquered nation.

Sure I am doubtful this will happen as I believe we're gong to see civil unrest like never before and very likely our Republic will fall as a result.

[libertybele]

You left out prosecutors who refuse to prosecute, turning the efforts of police into a game of "Catch and release".

 

[Smokin Joe]

By law yes. 

The point that I am trying to make is that in order to combat the coming marxism/communism and continued oppression I believe it will be necessary for Blacks and Whites to come together.  As long as we remain divided and don't stand up for our rights under the Constitution and in fact demand our rights under the Constitution, our Republic will not stand, we will be a divided and conquered nation.

Sure I am doubtful this will happen as I believe we're gong to see civil unrest like never before and very likely our Republic will fall as a result.

Unfortunately, the obvious will become the dividing line unless those Blacks and Whites who want more for their children and are willing to work for that, rather than go the Communist route, come together and organize BEFORE it comes to open conflict.  It may be that the opportunity for that has already passed, but there are Trump supporting and conservative blacks in this area, as well as Latinos, who came here and work or worked in the oil patch or even at other private sector or civil service jobs.

[DB]

WRT Asians vs Whites, the difference is that while (some of) the Whites promote excellence in their children, the Asians I have known demand it.
Those formative years spent learning fundamentals, being expected to do very well, if not be at the top of the class have an effect--that becomes habit, ingrained that you WILL do well, you expect it of yourself, and you aren't afraid to work to get there.

It doesn't matter if you have an IQ of 160. If you don't apply yourself, you are just a smart bum.

Hi IQ and no discipline or morality is the recipe for very bad things. At a minimum high IQ requires discipline to be productive.

[Cyber Liberty]

Unfortunately, the obvious will become the dividing line unless those Blacks and Whites who want more for their children and are willing to work for that, rather than go the Communist route, come together and organize BEFORE it comes to open conflict.  It may be that the opportunity for that has already passed, but there are Trump supporting and conservative blacks in this area, as well as Latinos, who came here and work or worked in the oil patch or even at other private sector or civil service jobs.

That opportunity was the election of a fake black man to the Presidency in 2008, and O'Bastard betrayed the country by using his position to constantly pour gasoline on the fire for eight solid years.  The rioting we see now is the natural progression from that original crime.

[roamer_1]

Hi IQ and no discipline or morality is the recipe for very bad things. At a minimum high IQ requires discipline to be productive.

AND morality to keep from doing evil ... Smart, disciplined evil is a terrible thing.

[Smokin Joe]

That opportunity was the election of a fake black man to the Presidency in 2008, and O'Bastard betrayed the country by using his position to constantly pour gasoline on the fire for eight solid years.  The rioting we see now is the natural progression from that original crime.

No argument there. We all got to watch the slow motion train wreck that was his administration set race relations in this country back over half a century. Now all those little ACORNS have sprouted.

[roamer_1]

No argument there. We all got to watch the slow motion train wreck that was his administration set race relations in this country back over half a century. Now all those little ACORNS have sprouted.

I actually don't think that's true, by and large. I think it is a concoction. All constructed in liberal cities with liberal angst and gimmedat rules. I don't think it will ever be effective beyond the confines that are allowing it.