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The last couple of weeks have been frustrating for the sizable chunk of Trump’s base who think lockdowns, untargeted social distancing, and forcing everyone to wear masks are neither effective nor necessary responses to COVID-19 and, in fact, are a much greater menace than the virus itself.

They believe we ought to finally start listening to the thousands of doctors and scientists that the drive-by media have gone out of their way to silence instead of blindly following the dictates of life-long bureaucrats who’ve been puffed up, pushed, and placed on a pedestal by professional purveyors of fake news like Jake Tapper and Chris Cuomo.

https://www.redstate.com/michael_thau/2020/08/11/trump-picks-lockdown-skeptic-dr-scott-atlas-as-new-covid-advisor/
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It is stunning the amount of damage #FauciTheFraud has wrecked on this nation.  2  weeks is one thing.  4 months of tyranny by Governors is quite another. It's been 8 months since this plague began!   We are in the middle of a coup and some just can't see it.  Their mission is to destroy the USA and seat the One World Government in it's place. 

Thank God we elected PDJT.  We need this fighter to survive as a nation. Vote the GOPe bums out.

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Finally, maybe too late though, Fauci and Birx' mission was to justify a mail-in election.    22222frying pan

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Wear a mask and disarm the fascists who insist on keeping businesses shut down.  Do it as a sign of solidarity with those who are unemployed through no fault of their own.
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Wear a mask and disarm the fascists who insist on keeping businesses shut down.  Do it as a sign of solidarity with those who are unemployed through no fault of their own.

As long as the mask wearing isn't government coerced.

But I'd prefer a more muscular statement - like 'You work for us. open the damned economy NOW.'

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Took ten paragraphs before the doctor was identified.  And his specialty is neuroradiology, not infectious diseases. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scott_Atlas

Sounds to me like the only reason Dr. Atlas was chosen for the COVID task force is that he is a Trump supporter who agrees with Trump on public health care policy.  While it's good to have diverse opinions to some degree, it seems to me the task force will never be on the same page and  this will only add to public confusion and chaos over what to do about COVID.


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Games the same where is the change?

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Since the Antonine Plague, Man has dealt w/the wrath of Nature, many times.
In the past, he survived, while moving forward, through determination and will,
while guided by the strong hand and vision of his leaders. So how are we doing?
Is is not obvious, even to a toddler, that the Covid-19 pandemic has become
little more than the essence of a political charade, ranted/raged about daily?
There is no difference between the antagonists, be it the current Buffoon in
the WH or the Clown challenging him in the campaign, NONE!!!
Plain people are simply spectators in this daily media hustle.
The foundation of the Medical Profession is Science, which has made gigantic strides
since the Roman Empire. So what role are Doctors playing in this Pandemic?
Why they are political props on tee-vee for clashing political adversaries!!!
PEOPLE GET THE GOVERNANCE THEY DESERVE AND TOLERATE!!!



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Since the Antonine Plague, Man has dealt w/the wrath of Nature, many times.
In the past, he survived, while moving forward, through determination and will,
while guided by the strong hand and vision of his leaders. So how are we doing?
Is is not obvious, even to a toddler, that the Covid-19 pandemic has become
little more than the essence of a political charade, ranted/raged about daily?
There is no difference between the antagonists, be it the current Buffoon in
the WH or the Clown challenging him in the campaign, NONE!!!
Plain people are simply spectators in this daily media hustle.
The foundation of the Medical Profession is Science, which has made gigantic strides
since the Roman Empire. So what role are Doctors playing in this Pandemic?
Why they are political props on tee-vee for clashing political adversaries!!!
PEOPLE GET THE GOVERNANCE THEY DESERVE AND TOLERATE!!!

Exactly right  We peasants are not getting leadership.  We are getting politics. 

And by the way, Trump is not the only one who fails to lead.  I'm getting BS from my state and local officials too. 

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Since the Antonine Plague, Man has dealt w/the wrath of Nature, many times.
In the past, he survived, while moving forward, through determination and will,
while guided by the strong hand and vision of his leaders. So how are we doing?
Is is not obvious, even to a toddler, that the Covid-19 pandemic has become
little more than the essence of a political charade, ranted/raged about daily?
There is no difference between the antagonists, be it the current Buffoon in
the WH or the Clown challenging him in the campaign, NONE!!!
Plain people are simply spectators in this daily media hustle.
The foundation of the Medical Profession is Science, which has made gigantic strides
since the Roman Empire. So what role are Doctors playing in this Pandemic?
Why they are political props on tee-vee for clashing political adversaries!!!
PEOPLE GET THE GOVERNANCE THEY DESERVE AND TOLERATE!!!

The history of major plagues goes back AT LEAST to the Great Plague of Athens...in which as many as 1/3 of the Athenian populace died. That event almost certainly cost Athens victory in the Peloponnesian War, a turning point in world history. That plague was believed to be the work of Yersinia Pestis, a deadly bacteria which was fated to re-occur in Rome (In the Antonine and other plague outbreaks) and down through the Middle Ages and the Black Death. My graduate thesis, ironically, was on the historical impact of Y Pestis in the ancient world...with a focus on its impact on the Peloponnesian conflict.

And man did not survive guided by the "strong hand" of leadership...most who had means and were "leaders" hid themselves away whilst the virus burned its way through the populace. Once herd immunity was attained, the virus would dissipate...for a generation or so, if lucky. As it does now, the path of the virus followed the path of commerce...and as the United States is the epicenter of commerce in this world...there was no way for us to avoid a full frontal punch in this pandemic. And, I might add, in future pandemics.

Luckily for this, THIS virus is little more than a bad flu in terms of mortality...so we can thank our stars for that. As for leadership, the truth with this kind of pandemic is that once the genie is out of the bottle the virus is going to run its course. The Chinese let the genie out...and at that moment we were doomed...and there's almost nothing the President could have done to prevent that. As for mitigating the effects on the populace, the President has moved mountains to gather and deploy the resources and treatment that could conceivably be summoned. He has almost literally done everything that COULD be rationally done...short of some kind of draconian in home lockdown/incarceration being put in place in early January. Even with that, its unlikely this virus would have been slowed much.

The kind of shabby "analysis" Absalom has put forth...in a thinly veiled effort to take a swipe at "orange man bad" is precisely why HE is, sadly, soon to get the leadership he deserves (if Biden wins).
« Last Edit: August 14, 2020, 12:35:14 am by Mesaclone »
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And by the way, Trump is not the only one who fails to lead.  ...

Fails to lead? Are you serious @Applewood? Trump and his Administration just in the month of January:

January 6, 2020 - CDC issued a Level 1 travel notice for Wuhan, China; https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2020/01/cdc-issues-level-1-watch-travel-notice.html

January 7, 2020 - CDC established a coronavirus incident management system; https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/videos/coronavirus/COVID-19-webinar.pdf

January 8, 2020 - CDC alert to clinicians to ask patients with "severe respiratory illness" whether they had traveled to Wuhan; https://emergency.cdc.gov/han/han00424.asp

January 17, 2020 - The US started screening arriving passengers from China; JFK, SFO, LAX https://www.businessinsider.com/new-disease-virus-china-us-airports-screening-cdc-2020-1 ; O'Hare and Hartsfield-Jackson
January 22, 2020 - https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/01/21/us-screenings-coronavirus-expanded-airports-atlanta-chicago/

January 20, 2020 - CDC activated its emergency operations center; https://emergency.cdc.gov/recentincidents/index.asp?cid=EPR-homepage

January 22, 2020 - US CDC issues a “(Travel) Watch Level 2 Alert (Practice Enhanced Precautions)” for the pneumonia caused by the novel coronavirus; https://china.usembassy-china.org.cn/health-alert-update-novel-coronavirus-in-china-3/

January 22, 2020 - Pharmaceuticals company Moderna working with US government to develop vaccine; https://www.cnbc.com/2020/01/22/moderna-is-working-on-a-vaccine-for-chinas-deadly-coronavirus.html , https://investors.modernatx.com/news-releases/news-release-details/moderna-announces-funding-award-cepi-accelerate-development

January 27, 2020 - US CDC issues highest-level travel health notice, Level 3, recommending that travelers avoid all nonessential travel to China; State Department raises its own travel advisory for all of China to Level 3 of 4, urging U.S. citizens to “reconsider travel”, while retaining its Level 4 travel advisory for Hubei Province; https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2020/s0128-travelers-avoid-china.html , https://china.usembassy-china.org.cn/travel-alert-level-4-do-not-travel-to-hubei/

January 28, 2020 - AbCellera is mobilizing its pandemic response platform against the outbreak of Covid-19; Since 2018, under the DARPA Pandemic Prevention Platform (P3) program, AbCellera has been leading a team of partners to establish a platform for pandemic response capable of developing field-ready medical countermeasures within 60 days of isolation of an unknown viral pathogen; https://www.abcellera.com/news/2020-01-abcellera-mobilizing-a-response-to-novel-coronavirus

January 29, 2020 - White House announced the formation of the Coronavirus Task Force; https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/480627-white-house-announces-task-force-to-monitor-coronavirus

January 31, 2020 - Trump declared a public health emergency; https://abcnews.go.com/Health/delta-suspends-us-flights-china-amid-coronavirus/story?id=68666037

January 31, 2020 - State Department raised the travel advisory for China to Level 4, do not travel; https://www.usatoday.com/story/travel/2020/01/31/coronavirus-china-flight-ban-delta-cuts-all-flights-white-house/4620989002/

January 31, 2020 - People entering the US from China forbidden; Announced January 31, effective February 2; https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/02/us/coronavirus-us-travel-restrictions/index.html

That could have been significantly longer, and it doesn't include the context of China's and WHO's deception, the first of health officials of Dem-controlled cities & counties advices to continue with normal public activities, and the first of Democrats' denunciations of Trump's travel ban.  All that and much more can be found in the US timeline linked in my signature.

Now then, Applewood, what do you think Trump should have done in January, 2020 that he did not do? Look over my timeline for February, and tell us what you think Trump should have done in February, 2020 that he did not do? Without resorting to facts not known at the time.
If, as anti-Covid-vaxxers claim, https://www.poynter.org/fact-checking/2021/robert-f-kennedy-jr-said-the-covid-19-vaccine-is-the-deadliest-vaccine-ever-made-thats-not-true/ , https://gospelnewsnetwork.org/2021/11/23/covid-shots-are-the-deadliest-vaccines-in-medical-history/ , The Vaccine is deadly, where in the US have Pfizer and Moderna hidden the millions of bodies of those who died of "vaccine injury"? Is reality a Big Pharma Shill?

Millions now living should have died. Anti-Covid-Vaxxer ghouls hardest hit.

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Some of what you list --  I can't be sure Trump actually was behind those activities or even knew about them.  Regardless -- whatever he may have done behind the scenes, he was less than a leader publicly.  Essentially, he had a team of medical advisers who were supposedly under his vice president.  But much of the time, he has ignored the advice of those advisers, hijacked their briefings and turned them into campaign events.  Throughout he has talked about this virus as no worse than the flu and even today he talks as if we have the virus under control or almost gone, while some states reportedly have seen an uptick in cases and deaths attributed to the virus.  Now a good many of those numbers may well be bogus, but I don't believe we have this virus licked yet and we aren't even close.

I do agree that we cannot keep businesses shuttered or people locked down indefinitely, but he is pushing for classroom instruction and the resumption of school sports.  I'm not so sure that in many cases those activities are ready to resume.  Besides, I don't like him trying to intrude into matters like these that should be decided by the states, the schools and the parents. 

Another thing -- wasn't his son-in-law supposed to ensure that hospitals received whatever equipment and supplies they needed?  I know a few hospitals where I live did not receive what they asked for.  They had to scramble.  I believe they went to a foreign supplier who may have in turn procured these items from China.  What has Trump done about that? 

And then Trump has promoted a drug which may not necessarily work against COVID and which may be harmful to some patients.  On that he has medical advisers he listens to, one of whom is a discredited researcher and another, a promoter of kooky theories about women's health issues.  Really? 

So what I'm seeing publicly is a president who only listens to advisers who agree with him, who contradicts the advise of those experts in infectious diseases, who spends much of his time blaming everyone from China to the Democrats for this pandemic, yet offering little to nothing that is helpful for the average person and what he does offer may be harmful, and who views this pandemic as a re-election campaign matter, not as the crisis where he should be providing leadership, helpful guidance and compassion for the victims and their loved ones. 

So you can talk about what Trump may have done early on, but since then, IMO, he has failed to lead.  That may be what will do him in come November. 
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The history of major plagues goes back AT LEAST to the Great Plague of Athens...in which as many as 1/3 of the Athenian populace died. That event almost certainly cost Athens victory in the Peloponnesian War, a turning point in world history. That plague was believed to be the work of Yersinia Pestis, a deadly bacteria which was fated to re-occur in Rome (In the Antonine and other plague outbreaks) and down through the Middle Ages and the Black Death. My graduate thesis, ironically, was on the historical impact of Y Pestis in the ancient world...with a focus on its impact on the Peloponnesian conflict.
And man did not survive guided by the "strong hand" of leadership...most who had means and were "leaders" hid themselves away whilst the virus burned its way through the populace. Once herd immunity was attained, the virus would dissipate...for a generation or so, if lucky. As it does now, the path of the virus followed the path of commerce...and as the United States is the epicenter of commerce in this world...there was no way for us to avoid a full frontal punch in this pandemic. And, I might add, in future pandemics.
Luckily for this, THIS virus is little more than a bad flu in terms of mortality...so we can thank our stars for that. As for leadership, the truth with this kind of pandemic is that once the genie is out of the bottle the virus is going to run its course. The Chinese let the genie out...and at that moment we were doomed...and there's almost nothing the President could have done to prevent that. As for mitigating the effects on the populace, the President has moved mountains to gather and deploy the resources and treatment that could conceivably be summoned. He has almost literally done everything that COULD be rationally done...short of some kind of draconian in home lockdown/incarceration being put in place in early January. Even with that, its unlikely this virus would have been slowed much.
The kind of shabby "analysis" Absalom has put forth...in a thinly veiled effort to take a swipe at "orange man bad" is precisely why HE is, sadly, soon to get the leadership he deserves (if Biden wins).
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My commentary was hardly an analysis, merely an opinion, as I lack your level of pretentiousness.
Paraphrasing Sun-tzu:
"Know your enemy and yourself (be it Vercingetorix or the Black Death) and you will always succeed."
Yet Trump has no enemies, only like minds who wanna deal??? Why of course!!!!!
In simplest terms ,"Character is destiny" both ours and our ability to judge it in others.
Trump's character has been doing a full frontal for 60 years, so no need to belabor the obvious.
As for his judgement of character, his nominees & appointments are mute testament to his
stable genius!!!






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Wear a mask and disarm the fascists who insist on keeping businesses shut down.  Do it as a sign of solidarity with those who are unemployed through no fault of their own.

Hell no.

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The history of major plagues goes back AT LEAST to the Great Plague of Athens...in which as many as 1/3 of the Athenian populace died. That event almost certainly cost Athens victory in the Peloponnesian War, a turning point in world history. That plague was believed to be the work of Yersinia Pestis, a deadly bacteria which was fated to re-occur in Rome (In the Antonine and other plague outbreaks) and down through the Middle Ages and the Black Death. My graduate thesis, ironically, was on the historical impact of Y Pestis in the ancient world...with a focus on its impact on the Peloponnesian conflict.
And man did not survive guided by the "strong hand" of leadership...most who had means and were "leaders" hid themselves away whilst the virus burned its way through the populace. Once herd immunity was attained, the virus would dissipate...for a generation or so, if lucky. As it does now, the path of the virus followed the path of commerce...and as the United States is the epicenter of commerce in this world...there was no way for us to avoid a full frontal punch in this pandemic. And, I might add, in future pandemics.
Luckily for this, THIS virus is little more than a bad flu in terms of mortality...so we can thank our stars for that. As for leadership, the truth with this kind of pandemic is that once the genie is out of the bottle the virus is going to run its course. The Chinese let the genie out...and at that moment we were doomed...and there's almost nothing the President could have done to prevent that. As for mitigating the effects on the populace, the President has moved mountains to gather and deploy the resources and treatment that could conceivably be summoned. He has almost literally done everything that COULD be rationally done...short of some kind of draconian in home lockdown/incarceration being put in place in early January. Even with that, its unlikely this virus would have been slowed much.
The kind of shabby "analysis" Absalom has put forth...in a thinly veiled effort to take a swipe at "orange man bad" is precisely why HE is, sadly, soon to get the leadership he deserves (if Biden wins).

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My commentary was hardly an analysis, merely an opinion, as I lack your level of pretentiousness.
Paraphrasing Sun-tzu:
"Know your enemy and yourself (be it Vercingetorix or the Black Death) and you will always succeed."
Yet Trump has no enemies, only like minds who wanna deal??? Why of course!!!!!
In simplest terms ,"Character is destiny" both ours and our ability to judge it in others.
Trump's character has been doing a full frontal for 60 years, so no need to belabor the obvious.
As for his judgement of character, his nominees & appointments are mute testament to his
stable genius!!!

I guess I'd rather be pretentious than incoherent...and deranged by the hatred of an admittedly imperfect man who does nothing but continuously fight for conservative policies from the White House.
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I guess I'd rather be pretentious than incoherent...and deranged by the hatred of an admittedly imperfect man who does nothing but continuously fight for conservative policies from the White House.
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As it's an opinion forum, so obviously all are entitled.
In my judgement Trump (as well as his ranting fans) wouldn't
know Principled Conservatism from Polynesian Cannibalism!!!

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As it's an opinion forum, so obviously all are entitled.
In my judgement Trump (as well as his ranting fans) wouldn't
know Principled Conservatism from Polynesian Cannibalism!!!
Principled Conservatism happens in notoriously cold climates, too. To my knowledge Polynesian Cannibalism was confined to more tropical latitudes.
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I guess I'd rather be pretentious than incoherent...

Umm... keep trying, I guess...  :whistle: :shrug:

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@Applewood, Trump's actions speak louder than your perceptions of Trump's words. You can spin that as much as you like, nut the facts are that the Trump Administration was acting correctly ahead of what was known at the time, and did so in the face of lies from China and WHO and obstructionist flak from Dems.

And I will ask again, Applewood, what actions should Trump have done in January and February that he did not do? Without resorting to facts not known at the time?

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Oh my God, who knew!!!!!
It's apparent those 27 days of Winter were transformational!!!!
Consider the consequences if those alerts, memos, notices and screenings had not happened?
WHY THE PANDEMIC WOULD LIKELY HAVE EXPLODED ACROSS OUR NATION
BEGINNING IN MARCH, KILLING THOUSANDS, AND MIGHT STILL BE RAVAGING US!!!
Er..............upon reflection???????????????????????????????????????????????

@Absalom, I chose those particular items from my timeline for two reasons" 1.) The Dem's and Trump-Haters' false claim that Trump did nothing for two months; 2.) The whole timeline is VERY long, as in over 22 pages in a MS Word compatible document using 12-point Arial font. Trump and his Administration have done and facilitated A LOT. He could not, however:

* Prevent China from hiding the existence of the Wuhan outbreak from the world for 2-3 weeks during the month of December;

* Prevent China from hiding the DNA sequence of this coronavirus from the world for two weeks, which delayed the start of vaccine research outside of China;

* Prevent China from lying to the world for three weeks about having evidence of human-human transmission of this coronavirus;

* Force China to shut down travel from Wuhan and Hubei Province when they knew there was an outbreak there rather than 5 or 6 weeks later (can you say, "5-6 weeks of uncontrolled spread"?!).

Every one of those fact-claims is documented in my US timeline linked in my signature. Just do a little calendar math.
If, as anti-Covid-vaxxers claim, https://www.poynter.org/fact-checking/2021/robert-f-kennedy-jr-said-the-covid-19-vaccine-is-the-deadliest-vaccine-ever-made-thats-not-true/ , https://gospelnewsnetwork.org/2021/11/23/covid-shots-are-the-deadliest-vaccines-in-medical-history/ , The Vaccine is deadly, where in the US have Pfizer and Moderna hidden the millions of bodies of those who died of "vaccine injury"? Is reality a Big Pharma Shill?

Millions now living should have died. Anti-Covid-Vaxxer ghouls hardest hit.

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And I will ask again, Applewood, what actions should Trump have done in January and February that he did not do? Without resorting to facts not known at the time?

@PeteS in CA

I'm not focused on what he may have done back in January and February.  I'm talking about his actions (or inactions) lately.  For many of us, this chit started in March when the media switched from counting flu cases to focusing on COVID.  Since that time, neither Trump nor others in authority have exactly demonstrated leadership in this matter.  For all of these political leaders, it's been all about politics -- how they can gain a political advantage over their rivals.  Not one of them cares about the well being of the people they are supposed to be serving.    I'm sick of the whole lot of them

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I'm not focused on what he may have done back in January and February.  I'm talking about his actions (or inactions) lately.  For many of us, this chit started in March when the media switched from counting flu cases to focusing on COVID.  Since that time, neither Trump nor others in authority have exactly demonstrated leadership in this matter.  For all of these political leaders, it's been all about politics -- how they can gain a political advantage over their rivals.  Not one of them cares about the well being of the people they are supposed to be serving.    I'm sick of the whole lot of them

 :silly: Ah, the sound of goalposts moving ...



But you want to talk about the month of March, here are some Trump Administration ACTIONS from March:

March 10, 2020 - Trump and VP Pence met with health insurance companies and secured commitment to waive co-pays for coronavirus testing; https://www.nbcnews.com/video/trump-pence-meet-with-insurance-executives-agree-to-waive-copays-extend-treatment-80407109506

March 10, 2020 - Army signed agreement with Gilead on experimental COVID-19 treatment; https://www.militarytimes.com/news/your-military/2020/03/10/army-signs-agreement-with-drug-giant-gilead-on-experimental-covid-19-treatment/

March 10, 2020 - OyaGen, Inc. announced experimental treatment has been studied by National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases; http://www.oyageninc.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/OyaGen-Press-for-03102020.pdf , "OYA1", not yet tested on humans

March 11, 2020 - Trump suspended travel from Europe; https://news.yahoo.com/trump-suspends-travel-from-europe-for-30-days-as-coronavirus-cases-continue-to-grow-014314635.html

March 12, 2020 - AbCellera and Eli Lilly announced an agreement to develop antibody products for treatment and prevention of COVID-19; part of a 2018 DARPA program with AbCellera; http://lilly.mediaroom.com/2020-03-12-AbCellera-and-Lilly-to-Co-develop-Antibody-Therapies-for-the-Treatment-of-COVID-19 , https://www.msn.com/en-us/finance/companies/eli-lilly-joins-race-to-develop-coronavirus-treatment/ar-BB116BNR

March 13, 2020 - Trump declared National Emergency; https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/what-trumps-emergency-declaration-over-coronavirus-means-for-arizona/ar-BB11a6RO

March 14, 2020 - European travel ban extended to include the UK and Ireland; https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/14/white-house-adds-uk-ireland-to-travel-ban-129470

March 16, 2020 - Testing begins of Moderna's experimental coronavirus vaccine; at Kaiser Permanente Washington Health Research Institute, https://www.kpwashingtonresearch.org/news-and-events/recent-news/news-2020/kaiser-permanente-launches-coronavirus-vaccine-study-seattle

March 16, 2020 - FDA allowing states to authorize use of tests developed by labs in their states; https://seekingalpha.com/news/3552325-fda-to-allow-states-to-authorize-coronavirus-tests

March 18, 2020 - HHS to suspended regulation against doctors practicing across state lines; https://www.medicaleconomics.com/news/coronavirus-response-doctors-can-now-practice-across-state-lines

March 19, 2020 - State Department global level 4 health advisory, avoid all international travel; https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/traveladvisories/ea/travel-advisory-alert-global-level-4-health-advisory-issue.html

March 24, 2020 - Army ordered three army hospitals to deploy to New York and Washington; https://armyupdate.com/index.php/2020/03/25/army-medical-hospitals-deploying-to-n-y-and-washington-state/

March 24, 2020 - Ology Bioservices, Inovio Partner To Manufacture COVID-19 Vaccine With $11.9M DOD Grant; http://ir.inovio.com/news-releases/news-releases-details/2020/Ology-Bioservices-Inovio-Partner-To-Manufacture-COVID-19-DNA-Vaccine-With-119-Million-Department-of-Defense-Grant/default.aspx

March 26, 2020 - Trump announced the USNS Comfort will depart for NYC; https://news.usni.org/2020/03/26/usns-comfort-departs-for-new-york-on-saturday-with-trump-modly-in-attendance

March 27, 2020 - USNS Mercy arrived in the port of Los Angeles; https://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2020/03/27/coronavirus-usns-mercy-arrives-port-of-los-angeles/

March 29, 2020 - Army Corps of Engineers completed construction of 2,900 bedroom temporary hospital at Javits Center in NYC; https://www.6sqft.com/temporary-hospital-javits-center-nyc-coronavirus/

March 30, 2020 - FDA approved Battelle’s process for decontaminating tens of thousands of N95 masks per day; https://www.wtol.com/article/news/health/coronavirus/fda-approves-use-of-battelles-mask-sterilizing-technology-at-full-capacity/512-265af79c-a9b5-4833-95b1-c4da65e81a91, (FDA has slow-walked this approval since 2016!)

March 30, 2020 - HHS accelerated clinical trial of a potential coronavirus vaccine developed by Janssen Research & Development; https://www.hhs.gov/about/news/2020/03/30/hhs-accelerates-clinical-trials-prepares-manufacturing-covid-19-vaccines.html

March 30, 2020 - Johnson & Johnson announced selection of a lead COVID-19 vaccine candidate and an expansion of the partnership between the Janssen Pharmaceutical and BARDA; https://www.jnj.com/johnson-johnson-announces-a-lead-vaccine-candidate-for-covid-19-landmark-new-partnership-with-u-s-department-of-health-human-services-and-commitment-to-supply-one-billion-vaccines-worldwide-for-emergency-pandemic-use

Again, I was very selective, more so than for January. Want to try another month, @Applewood? The timeline goes from December 31 (when the existence of the Wuhan outbreak was leaked to the world) up through last week, so it's very long. As I said to Absalom above, the MS Word-compatible file is on its 23rd page. And I'll be adding to it tomorrow or Sunday.

At some point you really should admit that your feelings and perceptions about Trump's leadership are contradicted by a very large mass of facts.
If, as anti-Covid-vaxxers claim, https://www.poynter.org/fact-checking/2021/robert-f-kennedy-jr-said-the-covid-19-vaccine-is-the-deadliest-vaccine-ever-made-thats-not-true/ , https://gospelnewsnetwork.org/2021/11/23/covid-shots-are-the-deadliest-vaccines-in-medical-history/ , The Vaccine is deadly, where in the US have Pfizer and Moderna hidden the millions of bodies of those who died of "vaccine injury"? Is reality a Big Pharma Shill?

Millions now living should have died. Anti-Covid-Vaxxer ghouls hardest hit.

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:silly: Ah, the sound of goalposts moving ...



But you want to talk about the month of March, here are some Trump Administration ACTIONS from March:

@Applewood is right. Your list is flailing, and not of any use. The reality, especially now that data backs it up, is that all the whining and crying and throwing dirt in the air was all for naught. While all this carrying on was going on, the virus was rampaging through the cities where outbreak occurred, and nothing stopped it at all. Even back then, with rudimentary testing, they could extrapolate up to 30% cases undetected in the wild - Which means, basically, you ain't doing sh*t to stop it.

Now they've bent that into the narrative, as the focus is on cases rather than deaths - where again, the reality is that deaths have been in steady decline ever since the end of April.This bug now has a mortality rate that is less than influenza, even with all the number jacking they can do.

And with the exception of a couple of governors and mayors for some people, when this is revealed as the farce that it is, the picture in people's heads is going to be Tumpy standing there with Fauxi.

The whole thing has been the bullsh*t, and has drastically curtailed liberty - MY liberty - And Tumpy is in it up to his lips. It is an indefensible breach of rights. Purposeful, and intentional, and that should piss you off.
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@Applewood, Trump's actions speak louder than your perceptions of Trump's words. You can spin that as much as you like, nut the facts are that the Trump Administration was acting correctly ahead of what was known at the time, and did so in the face of lies from China and WHO and obstructionist flak from Dems.
And I will ask again, Applewood, what actions should Trump have done in January and February that he did not do? Without resorting to facts not known at the time?
@Absalom, I chose those particular items from my timeline for two reasons" 1.) The Dem's and Trump-Haters' false claim that Trump did nothing for two months; 2.) The whole timeline is VERY long, as in over 22 pages in a MS Word compatible document using 12-point Arial font. Trump and his Administration have done and facilitated A LOT. He could not, however:
* Prevent China from hiding the existence of the Wuhan outbreak from the world for 2-3 weeks during the month of December;
* Prevent China from hiding the DNA sequence of this coronavirus from the world for two weeks, which delayed the start of vaccine research outside of China;
* Prevent China from lying to the world for three weeks about having evidence of human-human transmission of this coronavirus;
* Force China to shut down travel from Wuhan and Hubei Province when they knew there was an outbreak there rather than 5 or 6 weeks later (can you say, "5-6 weeks of uncontrolled spread"?!).
Every one of those fact-claims is documented in my US timeline linked in my signature. Just do a little calendar math.
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@ PeteS, fair enough, so let me replace the sarcasm w/some history.
Great leaders were Men who reflected, then acted, successfully achieving.
Your list of Trump 'accomplishments' are essentially tactical moves to provoke
an antagonist into some level of future deal and are hardly accomplishments.
No surprise, given Trump's background and mindset.