Dunning-Kruger Effect

[bigheadfred]

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/basics/dunning-kruger-effect

The Dunning-Kruger effect is a cognitive bias in which people wrongly overestimate their knowledge or ability in a specific area. This tends to occur because a lack of self-awareness prevents them from accurately assessing their own skills.
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Understanding the Dunning-Kruger Effect

The concept of the Dunning-Kruger effect is based on a 1999 paper by Cornell University psychologists David Dunning and Justin Kruger. The pair tested participants on their logic, grammar, and sense of humor, and found that those who performed in the bottom quartile rated their skills far above average. For example, those in the 12th percentile self-rated their expertise to be, on average, in the 62nd percentile.

The researchers attributed the trend to a problem of metacognition—the ability to analyze one’s own thoughts or performance. “Those with limited knowledge in a domain suffer a dual burden: Not only do they reach mistaken conclusions and make regrettable errors, but their incompetence robs them of the ability to realize it,” they wrote.

[bigheadfred]

Meta-Ignorance

http://zhurnaly.com/cgi-bin/wiki/Meta-Ignorance

The Dunning-Kruger Effect, named for psychologists David Dunning and Justin Kruger, is all about the most vicious problem of ignorance: if people don't know much about something, they also don't realize how little they know. They tend to overestimate their skill in that area. Worst of all, they don't know which "experts" to believe on the topic, so they're easily led astray by those who are smarter and want to manipulate them for profit or power.

This has depressing consequences for democracy. Topics that are rather technical — macroeconomics or global warming or health care policy or old age pension systems — require study and thought to understand. The average voter who hasn't looked into them in detail is likely to be snookered. Society suffers.

And this form of blindness to one's own blindness is an old story. Wikipedia offers quotes from Charles Darwin ("Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge") and Bertrand Russell ("One of the painful things about our time is that those who feel certainty are stupid, and those with any imagination and understanding are filled with doubt and indecision"). And William Butler Yeats said it even better in his poem "The Second Coming":

The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.

[rustynail]

The Dunning-Kruger effect is caused by the internet.

[bigheadfred]

The Dunning-Kruger effect is caused by the internet.

Education type institutions also play a big part. Churning out masses of marxists.

[Smokin Joe]

Education type institutions also play a big part. Churning out masses of marxists.

I wonder how many of the Masked Marxists in the street could even identify some of the more notable persons of the last century?
I seriously doubt their comprehension of what they protest against and what they protest for.

Evidenced, of course by toppling statues of Frederick Douglass and the attacks on the 54th Mass memorial and the Emancipation Statue (and others). They are a mindless limbic brained rabble, displaying signs of being organized, of cunning, but not intelligence except that which manipulates them.

Still, any crowd is a mob waiting for a spark, often administered by some loudmouth who appeals to their most base emotions.

[roamer_1]

Shut up, sit down, and listen to the exspurts.

[bigheadfred]

Shut up, sit down, and listen to the exspurts.

Or, shut down, sit up...

[Smokin Joe]

Shut up, sit down, and listen to the exspurts.

Yep. It's a compound word.
Ex=has been
Spurt=drip under pressure.

[roamer_1]

Or, shut down, sit up...

As an autodidact, I welcome thinking outside of the guardrails. The guardrails tend to define the direction... Which is not a good thing when being loaded into boxcars.

[roamer_1]

Yep. It's a compound word.
Ex=has been
Spurt=drip under pressure.

That's right. And it is now firmly ensconced in my lexicon. Expect it by way of substitution from me from now on. In the face of the plandemic, the irony is apropos.

 

[bigheadfred]

Anyone familiar with a Moebius strip?


In mathematics, a Möbius strip, band, or loop , also spelled Mobius or Moebius, is a surface with only one side (when embedded in three-dimensional Euclidean space) and only one boundary curve. The Möbius strip is the simplest non-orientable surface.



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[bigheadfred]

As an autodidact, I welcome thinking outside of the guardrails. The guardrails tend to define the direction... Which is not a good thing when being loaded into boxcars.

Better to think outside the guardrails than worrying about some damned cat.

[DB]

Anyone familiar with a Moebius strip?


In mathematics, a Möbius strip, band, or loop , also spelled Mobius or Moebius, is a surface with only one side (when embedded in three-dimensional Euclidean space) and only one boundary curve. The Möbius strip is the simplest non-orientable surface.



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Yes.

[bigheadfred]

Yes.

One more then I need to go to bed.

[DB]

One more then I need to go to bed.

LOL.

[roamer_1]

Better to think outside the guardrails than worrying about some damned cat.

I heard that

[Gefn]

Sorry I missed this thread, yep heard about this a few years back. Fascinating.

Thanks @bigheadfred