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Re: Republican Rand Paul Breaks With Trump Over Portland: 'Cannot Give Up Liberty for Security'
« Reply #25 on: July 21, 2020, 02:00:16 pm »
Quote from: FeelNoPain on July 21, 2020, 01:58:51 pm
I'm worried about individuals impersonating these nameless, unidentified, fatigue-wearing Feds in unmarked vehicles kidnapping and disappearing a couple of these protesters.

I'm very worried, too.  000hehehehe
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Re: Republican Rand Paul Breaks With Trump Over Portland: 'Cannot Give Up Liberty for Security'
« Reply #26 on: July 21, 2020, 02:13:08 pm »
Quote from: FeelNoPain on July 21, 2020, 01:58:51 pm
I'm worried about individuals impersonating these nameless, unidentified, fatigue-wearing Feds in unmarked vehicles kidnapping and disappearing a couple of these protesters.

The more successful the leftists are at eliminating the Police, the more private "Regulators" will become a fixture of the streets.  What you describe will happen as a natural consequence of the left's actions in this regard.  The citizens WILL have law and order, one way or another.

And we, as a nation, will have taken a giant leap down the slippery slope of tyranny.
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Re: Republican Rand Paul Breaks With Trump Over Portland: 'Cannot Give Up Liberty for Security'
« Reply #27 on: July 21, 2020, 02:37:19 pm »
Quote from: Cyber Liberty on July 21, 2020, 02:13:08 pm
The more successful the leftists are at eliminating the Police, the more private "Regulators" will become a fixture of the streets.  What you describe will happen as a natural consequence of the left's actions in this regard.  The citizens WILL have law and order, one way or another.

And we, as a nation, will have taken a giant leap down the slippery slope of tyranny.

If the left is successful at eliminating local police through legislative means, then isn't that a function of democracy? I wouldn't want to live in such a shithole utopia, but if that is what a majority of those citizens purport to want by voting in advocates of such insanity, then shouldn't they be left to their own de(vices)?
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Re: Republican Rand Paul Breaks With Trump Over Portland: 'Cannot Give Up Liberty for Security'
« Reply #28 on: July 21, 2020, 02:56:55 pm »
Quote from: FeelNoPain on July 21, 2020, 02:37:19 pm
If the left is successful at eliminating local police through legislative means, then isn't that a function of democracy? I wouldn't want to live in such a shithole utopia, but if that is what a majority of those citizens purport to want by voting in advocates of such insanity, then shouldn't they be left to their own de(vices)?

I agree with all of that.  If the Rats succeed in eliminating the Police, they will own the results, because of the Pottery Barn rules.  If they break it, they own it.
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Re: Republican Rand Paul Breaks With Trump Over Portland: 'Cannot Give Up Liberty for Security'
« Reply #29 on: July 21, 2020, 03:23:05 pm »
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Re: Republican Rand Paul Breaks With Trump Over Portland: 'Cannot Give Up Liberty for Security'
« Reply #30 on: July 21, 2020, 09:38:28 pm »
Quote from: FeelNoPain on July 21, 2020, 01:58:51 pm
I'm worried about individuals impersonating these nameless, unidentified, fatigue-wearing Feds in unmarked vehicles kidnapping and disappearing a couple of these protesters.
While that could happen, I'd bet the minivans have US Gov't plates.
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