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Re: St. Louis couple who brandished weapons at protesters charged
« Reply #25 on: July 21, 2020, 01:16:56 am »
For those of us who are "mushrooms" this is our time to flourish!

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Shrooms of the World, Unite????      :silly:
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Re: St. Louis couple who brandished weapons at protesters charged
« Reply #26 on: July 21, 2020, 01:26:01 am »
The state AG just moved to dismiss the charges.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/missouri-ag-moves-to-dismiss-charges-against-couple-who-pointed-guns-at-crowd

I guess we'll find out what kind of POS the Judge is if he/she refuses to drop the charges, ala Emmett Sullivan.
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Re: St. Louis couple who brandished weapons at protesters charged
« Reply #27 on: July 21, 2020, 01:34:57 am »
For those of us who are "mushrooms" this is our time to flourish!

(see! i knew I could use that word in a sentence!)

I thought that flourish was what an undercooked chocolate omelette tasted like?
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Re: St. Louis couple who brandished weapons at protesters charged
« Reply #28 on: July 21, 2020, 01:41:20 am »
Shrooms of the World, Unite????      :silly:

Who would you rather spend time with?

Bad guys?

Or a fungi?
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Re: St. Louis couple who brandished weapons at protesters charged
« Reply #29 on: July 21, 2020, 02:03:26 am »
Missouri AG moves to dismiss charges against couple who pointed guns at crowd
https://www.foxnews.com/us/missouri-ag-moves-to-dismiss-charges-against-couple-who-pointed-guns-at-crowd
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Re: St. Louis couple who brandished weapons at protesters charged
« Reply #30 on: July 21, 2020, 02:56:05 am »
This hearkens back to the Mike Nifong scandal at Duke.  Like St. Louis, the voter base in Durham is tribal and stooooh-ped.  Our governor and a Dim at the time, so the persecution was allowed to continue for months.  I hope the McCloskeys will bring a suit against the circuit attorney as well as the city.

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Re: St. Louis couple who brandished weapons at protesters charged
« Reply #31 on: July 21, 2020, 03:03:39 am »
Yabbut will they return their property? (Firearms)
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Re: St. Louis couple who brandished weapons at protesters charged
« Reply #32 on: July 21, 2020, 03:10:31 am »
Yabbut will they return their property? (Firearms)

Probably.  Unless it turns out he had a sketchy lower in the AR15 or something.
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Re: St. Louis couple who brandished weapons at protesters charged
« Reply #33 on: July 22, 2020, 01:02:58 am »
Soros-Backed Prosecutor: How Dare You Use Guns To Defend Your Lives, McCloskys! Have Some Felony Charges! Missouri AG: Slow Your Roll

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https://www.battleswarmblog.com/?p=45080

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Incompetent, George Soros backed St. Louis Democratic prosecutor Kim Gardner announced that she’s filing felony charges against Mark and Patricia McCloskey, the St. Louis couple who defended their home against #BlackLivesMatter intruders by merely brandishing their weapons on their own property. In fact, Gardner charged the couple with both a felony and misdemeanor count, evidently intending to pressure the couple into pleading guilty to the misdemeanor charges to avoid jail time.

Enter Missouri Republican Attorney General Eric Schmitt: Homey don’t play that:

    Within hours of the ruling, Missouri Attorney General Eric Schmitt filed a brief seeking to dismiss Gardner’s charges against the McCloskeys on the grounds that their Second Amendment rights are being violated.

    “The right to keep and bear arms is given the highest level of protection in our constitution and our laws, including the Castle Doctrine, which provides broad rights to Missourians who are protecting their property and lives from those who wish to do them harm,” Schmitt said in a prepared statement provided to Fox News.

    “Despite this, Circuit Attorney Gardner filed suit against the McCloskeys, who, according to published reports, were defending their property and safety. As Missouri’s Chief law enforcement officer, I won’t stand by while Missouri law is being ignored,” Schmitt said.

    The brief filing says the attorney general “respectfully requests that the Court dismiss this case at the earlier possible opportunity.”

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Re: St. Louis couple who brandished weapons at protesters charged
« Reply #34 on: July 29, 2020, 11:03:42 pm »
At least one protester at McCloskey altercation was armed with firearm, sources say

https://justthenews.com/government/courts-law/mccloskey-police-report-allegedly-contained-notes-confirming-claims-armed

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Mark and Patricia McCloskey made national headlines at the end of June when they confronted a mob of protesters outside of their home on Portland Place, a wealthy private street west of downtown St. Louis.

Photos and videos of the couple holding firearms and in some cases brandishing those firearms at the crowd went globally viral. St. Louis prosecutor Kim Gardner charged the pair on July 20 with "flourishing" their guns in an unlawful manner.

Yet sources in the St. Louis Police Department have told Just the News that video evidence from the altercation indicates that at least one member of the crowd of protesters was armed with a gun during the confrontation.

That allegation, if true, could be a key assertion in the McCloskeys' defense. The pair's lawyer has cited the state's "castle doctrine" law, which stipulates that an individual may use deadly force without the need to retreat if he or she "reasonably believes that such deadly force is necessary" to protect his or her own life.

I think it's getting to be time to investigate whether Gardner is abusing her authority by using a frivolous prosecution so that the process necessary to clear their names - probably a year or two if this goes to trial - punishes the McCloskeys.
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Re: St. Louis couple who brandished weapons at protesters charged
« Reply #35 on: July 29, 2020, 11:06:49 pm »
McCloskeys' attorney files motion to disqualify St. Louis prosecutor Gardner

https://justthenews.com/accountability/political-ethics/holdprelim-write-soros-funder-prosecutor-kim-gardner-accused

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The attorney for the McCloskeys, charged in connection with defended their home against protesters in their private community, on Wedneday filed motions to disqualify St. Louis Circuit Prosecutor Kim Gardner from pursuing their cases.

The attorney, Joel Schwartz, has also asked that Gardner be disqualified from prosecuting the McCloskeys' case, based upon conflicts of interest.

Gardner "monitized and politicized this case," Schwartz tells Just the News, following revelations that the prosecutor's reelection campaign has fundraised off the high-profile case.
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Re: St. Louis couple who brandished weapons at protesters charged
« Reply #36 on: July 29, 2020, 11:31:41 pm »
At least one protester at McCloskey altercation was armed with firearm, sources say

https://justthenews.com/government/courts-law/mccloskey-police-report-allegedly-contained-notes-confirming-claims-armed

I think it's getting to be time to investigate whether Gardner is abusing her authority by using a frivolous prosecution so that the process necessary to clear their names - probably a year or two if this goes to trial - punishes the McCloskeys.

Yahbutt!!!  Was the weapon fireable?  Did the crack crime-lab/gunsmiths make sure it could be fired by tampering with the evidence again?
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Re: St. Louis couple who brandished weapons at protesters charged
« Reply #37 on: July 30, 2020, 05:45:14 pm »
Yahbutt!!!  Was the weapon fireable?  Did the crack crime-lab/gunsmiths make sure it could be fired by tampering with the evidence again?
You mean like the BATF "Reconstructing" weapons recovered from the ashes of Mt. Carmel at Waco so they were full auto (no small feat, that)?
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Re: St. Louis couple who brandished weapons at protesters charged
« Reply #38 on: July 30, 2020, 05:49:22 pm »
You mean like the BATF "Reconstructing" weapons recovered from the ashes of Mt. Carmel at Waco so they were full auto (no small feat, that)?

The law they 'broke' states that you cannot brandish a firearm or weapon in the face of another, with malice.
 
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Re: St. Louis couple who brandished weapons at protesters charged
« Reply #39 on: July 30, 2020, 07:51:19 pm »
The law they 'broke' states that you cannot brandish a firearm or weapon in the face of another, with malice.
There is also Castle Doctrine in Missouri. They were perfectly within their rights to brandish and even USE firearms in the defense of their property after the mob broke down the iron gate and invaded their property.
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Re: St. Louis couple who brandished weapons at protesters charged
« Reply #40 on: July 30, 2020, 07:54:51 pm »
There is also Castle Doctrine in Missouri. They were perfectly within their rights to brandish and even USE firearms in the defense of their property after the mob broke down the iron gate and invaded their property.
They are lucky in the heat of the moment that they didn't pull the trigger. 

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Re: St. Louis couple who brandished weapons at protesters charged
« Reply #41 on: July 30, 2020, 08:03:19 pm »
The law they 'broke' states that you cannot brandish a firearm or weapon in the face of another, with malice.

Let's not lose sight of the fact that, had the crime lab not tampered with her pistol, she could not have been charged with the crime she's facing.  A weapon had to be capable of firing at the time she brandished it to support the charge, and it wasn't until the lab got their tampering hands on it.

The crime lab created the charge.
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Re: St. Louis couple who brandished weapons at protesters charged
« Reply #42 on: July 30, 2020, 08:15:19 pm »
They are lucky in the heat of the moment that they didn't pull the trigger.
Had they done so, they would have been overrun in short order and likely killed.
What made the threat effective is that no one wanted to be first.
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Re: St. Louis couple who brandished weapons at protesters charged
« Reply #43 on: July 30, 2020, 08:17:35 pm »
Let's not lose sight of the fact that, had the crime lab not tampered with her pistol, she could not have been charged with the crime she's facing.  A weapon had to be capable of firing at the time she brandished it to support the charge, and it wasn't until the lab got their tampering hands on it.

The crime lab created the charge.
Just like the BATF tampering with the rifles at Waco. Semi-autos were converted (often no easy feat) during 'reconstruction and restoration' to be capable of things the conflict did not indicate were possible (no full auto fire from inside the complex).
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Re: St. Louis couple who brandished weapons at protesters charged
« Reply #44 on: August 04, 2020, 06:10:57 pm »
NEW INFORMATION
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McCloskey Case: Lead Detective TWICE Refused to Sign Prosecution Docs
P. Gardner Goldsmith
August. 4. 2020

New information has surfaced revealing a schism between St. Louis police and Circuit Attorney Kim Gardner regarding her attempt to prosecute Mark and Patricia McCloskey after they pointed firearms at armed property invaders on June 28.

According to Christine Byers, of KSDK, TV 5:
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    The lead St. Louis police detective investigating the McCloskey case refused to sign at least two versions of court documents prosecutors drafted, according to a review of those documents…
Yet Gardner’s office – specifically, Assistant Circuit Attorney Chris Hinckley -- applied pressure. ...
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Re: St. Louis couple who brandished weapons at protesters charged
« Reply #45 on: August 05, 2020, 07:33:54 am »
Just a reminder that a few good people, doing the right thing, here and there, cn stand in the way of this crap.

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Re: St. Louis couple who brandished weapons at protesters charged
« Reply #46 on: August 05, 2020, 10:33:18 am »
Yahbutt!!!  Was the weapon fireable?  Did the crack crime-lab/gunsmiths make sure it could be fired by tampering with the evidence again?

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Maybe this makes me a "bad person",but I can live with that as long as these leftist anti-gun for thee and me goobers are hit with maximum charges.

Let this send a message to all the other wealthy Dims who are radical anti-gunners for everyone but themselves that "Those who live by their anti-gun for poor people elitism,die due to their anti-gun position for the less fortunate" because criminals don't give a damn if they are for abortion or not. All the criminals care about is getting the loot and making sure there are no witnesses to testify against them.
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Re: St. Louis couple who brandished weapons at protesters charged
« Reply #47 on: August 05, 2020, 01:21:56 pm »
@Cyber Liberty

Maybe this makes me a "bad person",but I can live with that as long as these leftist anti-gun for thee and me goobers are hit with maximum charges.

Let this send a message to all the other wealthy Dims who are radical anti-gunners for everyone but themselves that "Those who live by their anti-gun for poor people elitism,die due to their anti-gun position for the less fortunate" because criminals don't give a damn if they are for abortion or not. All the criminals care about is getting the loot and making sure there are no witnesses to testify against them.

You don't see a problem with the crime lab turning an inoperable weapon into a functioning one, just so they could charge the leftist woman?  I must be strange, I believe the laws should apply to people equally, regardless of their politics.
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Re: St. Louis couple who brandished weapons at protesters charged
« Reply #48 on: August 05, 2020, 01:50:17 pm »
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You don't see a problem with the crime lab turning an inoperable weapon into a functioning one,just so they could charge the leftist woman?


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I don't know anything about that,but if they do it to "regular people",I have no problem with them also doing it to wealthy leftist hypocrits that want working people to go to prison for doing what THEY expect to get a pass on.

 
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  I must be strange, I believe the laws should apply to people equally, regardless of their politics.

EXACTLY! If the crime lab there does it to "regular people",I want them doing it to the wealthy suburb set.
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Re: St. Louis couple who brandished weapons at protesters charged
« Reply #49 on: August 05, 2020, 02:15:23 pm »


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I don't know anything about that,but if they do it to "regular people",I have no problem with them also doing it to wealthy leftist hypocrits that want working people to go to prison for doing what THEY expect to get a pass on.

 
EXACTLY! If the crime lab there does it to "regular people",I want them doing it to the wealthy suburb set.

If they do it to other people.  There is no indication of that.  I think it's likely that they did it so they can charge the woman with a Crime against OBLM and Antifa.  A political crime.
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