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In Trump v. Vance, #SCOTUS hands President Trump a defeat in battle with NY district attorney, holding that a subpoena to a sitting president does not have to meet a heightened standard



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BREAKING: By 7-2 vote, Scotus says Trump can't block subpoena of NY district attorney
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« Reply #1 on: July 09, 2020, 02:17:19 pm »
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NEW: By a 7-2 vote the Supreme Court says the President is not "absolutely immune" from a subpoena and so the Manhattan D.A. will now likely get President Trump's tax documents.
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« Reply #2 on: July 09, 2020, 02:17:31 pm »
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BREAKING:  Supreme Court rules that President is not absolutely immune. Criminal prosecutor can subpoena his tax records.

BUT.. the President can challenge the specifics of this particular subpoena.

The case is remanded to lower court for further consideration.
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« Reply #3 on: July 09, 2020, 02:19:35 pm »
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BREAKING: Supreme Court rules Manhattan district attorney can obtain Trump tax returns. A ruling on whether Congress can get access is coming next.
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Re: SUPREME COURT SAYS N.Y. GRAND JURY CAN GET TRUMP'S TAX RETURNS
« Reply #4 on: July 09, 2020, 02:20:31 pm »
Supreme Court Says NY Grand Jury Can Get Trump Tax Returns

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The U.S. Supreme Court ruled that a New York grand jury can subpoena President Trump's tax returns.

The 7-2 ruling, written by Chief Justice John Roberts, says "Article II and the Supremacy Clause do not categorically preclude, or require a heightened standard for, the issuance of a state criminal subpoena to a sitting President."

This is a developing story.


https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/politics/supreme-court-expect-to-rule-whether-manhattan-da-congress-can-see-trump-tax-records/2507122/
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« Reply #5 on: July 09, 2020, 02:21:56 pm »
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BREAKING:  Supreme Court rules that President is not absolutely immune. Criminal prosecutor can subpoena his tax records.

BUT.. the President can challenge the specifics of this particular subpoena.

The case is remanded to lower court for further consideration.

This part is headed  back to the Supreme Court.

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« Reply #6 on: July 09, 2020, 02:22:05 pm »
The Supreme Court on Thursday voted 7-2 against President Donald Trump in a case over whether he could shield his tax records from the Manhattan district attorney.

Chief Justice John Roberts authored the court’s opinion, which was joined by Justices Ruth Bader Ginsburg, Stephen Breyer, Sonia Sotomayor and Elena Kagan. Justices Brett Kavanaugh and Neil Gorsuch wrote separately to explain their votes with the majority. Justices Clarence Thomas and Samuel Alito dissented.

“In our judicial system, ‘the public has a right to every man’s evidence.’ Since the earliest days of the Republic, ‘every man’ has included the President of the United States,” Roberts wrote.

The decision is the first time that the nation’s highest court has directly ruled on a matter involving Trump’s personal dealings. Trump has been more secretive with his finances than any president in decades, refusing to release his tax records to the public even as he mounts a bid for reelection.

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/07/09/supreme-court-trump-tax-records.html
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« Reply #7 on: July 09, 2020, 02:30:12 pm »
Ha

SCOTUS blocks Congress from getting Trump's tax records...sends back to lower court
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« Reply #8 on: July 09, 2020, 02:31:19 pm »
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« Reply #9 on: July 09, 2020, 02:32:37 pm »
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Trump v. Vance is a 7-2 decision by CJ Roberts. As many of us argued, Article II and the Supremacy Clause do not contain an exclusion or higher standard for state criminal subpoenas for a sitting President.
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« Reply #10 on: July 09, 2020, 02:33:15 pm »
Amendment IV, United States Constitution

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
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Re: SUPREME COURT SAYS N.Y. GRAND JURY CAN GET TRUMP'S TAX RETURNS
« Reply #11 on: July 09, 2020, 02:33:17 pm »
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Of course SCOTUS knows damn well CNN will have the returns as fast as the NY AG has them.

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« Reply #12 on: July 09, 2020, 02:35:16 pm »
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As I argued in the past, the President helped to create more binding precedent against future presidents with extreme constitutional claims. This bought time for Trump but at the cost of countervailing precedent. It will push the matter beyond the election but  at a high cost.



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There is no spin possible. This is a major and embarrassing defeat for the President who, against the advice of many of us, advanced an unsustainable claim of absolute privilege.
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« Reply #13 on: July 09, 2020, 02:35:44 pm »
Of course SCOTUS knows damn well CNN will have the returns as fast as the NY AG has them.

Yep...
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« Reply #14 on: July 09, 2020, 02:37:05 pm »
Mazars looks like a win for Trump. Roberts writes another 7-2 (something of a trend in these final decisions). While the Court does not sign off on the Trump demands, it vacates the lower court decision. https://t.co/dy2RNsWbvm— Jonathan Turley (@JonathanTurley) July 9, 2020

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« Reply #15 on: July 09, 2020, 02:37:14 pm »
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I care about how Joe Biden spent four decades in public office enriching his family and friends!
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« Reply #16 on: July 09, 2020, 02:38:27 pm »
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Trump's own SCOTUS nominees turn on him, which means we can only look forward to Mike Pence self-parody tweeting out once more later today "that's why we need to vote Republican for better judges."
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« Reply #17 on: July 09, 2020, 02:38:53 pm »
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I do not care about President @realDonaldTrump
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I care about how Joe Biden spent four decades in public office enriching his family and friends!

 :yowsa: pointing-up

The problem is that he is not the only one by far! Both sides of the isle.
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« Reply #18 on: July 09, 2020, 02:39:25 pm »
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Mazars finds that the lower courts were too dismissive of valid concerns over the possible intrusion of such congressional into executive areas. This will, like the New York case, go back to lower courts. This means that the cans get kicked down the road past the election.


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« Reply #19 on: July 09, 2020, 02:39:25 pm »
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In sum: Trump’s financial records—all of them—will remain sealed at least through Election Day.

Trump indeed lost the Manhattan DA case, badly. But those records are subject to grand-jury secrecy, so the public won't see them.

Congressional subpoena cases on hold pending remand
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« Reply #20 on: July 09, 2020, 02:39:42 pm »
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I care about how Joe Biden spent four decades in public office enriching his family and friends!

So ....where are the subpoenas for Biden's tax records?  I want to see them.   And I'm betting that there is actually criminality connected with Biden's, rather than Trump's.
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« Reply #21 on: July 09, 2020, 02:41:39 pm »
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The Supreme Court sends case back to Lower Court, arguments to continue. This is all a political prosecution. I won the Mueller Witch Hunt, and others, and now I have to keep fighting in a politically corrupt New York. Not fair to this Presidency or Administration!
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« Reply #22 on: July 09, 2020, 02:42:39 pm »
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Bottom line on these 7-2 SCOTUS decisions: Trump cannot be an autocrat who just says no to subpoenas from Congress and local DAs. But he can argue the particulars of individual subpoenas, and now these requests for his financial records & tax returns go back to lower courts.
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« Reply #23 on: July 09, 2020, 02:43:23 pm »
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McCarthy: The Supreme Court made a decision. I’ve watched Trump abide by all the requests for financial disclosure which are much more thorough than any tax returns. The request from district attorney of NY..seems like it’s much more political than anything else
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