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Re: Horowitz: Republicans won’t even fight for self-defense
« Reply #101 on: July 05, 2020, 01:42:46 am »
Instead of blaming republicans......why don't they ask why are DEMON-RATS...lefts, determined to destroy America?  THAT IS THE QUESTION.   Then, republicans won't have to ACT or defend anything.  Always backwards.  I do agree, most republican's are too scared or afraid to do anything.  STEVE SCALICE.  Minding his business, playing a ball game..SHOT BY A DEMON-RAT.  Every person since Lincoln has been a demon-rat, shooting people & presidents.  WHY?  I think something mental going on.

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Re: Horowitz: Republicans won’t even fight for self-defense
« Reply #102 on: July 05, 2020, 01:58:24 am »
Good freaking grief!   I wanted to see fireworks tonight....

but not THIS kind of fireworks!       9999hair out0000

Everybody calm the eff down, for hellsakes.   

And remember the most pertinent and timely truism of all....

United we stand... divided we fall.

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Re: Horowitz: Republicans won’t even fight for self-defense
« Reply #103 on: July 05, 2020, 02:11:33 am »
It is kind of amusing. The majority of people here who you say are dumb and have no common sense are people heavily involved in jobs that require high levels of critical thinking and logic. Where poor thinking/logic results in expensive failed projects and soon puts you out of a job. And the people who play word games for a living that are not bound by physics/reality are just certain the others are fools.

Interesting isn't it.

I know a lot of high IQ people who have no interest in wearing clean clothes and have a total lack of common sense and pragmatism.

"You go to war with the army you have...not the want you wish for".   There's a reason ages-old sayings survive.

That's "interesting" too!   happy77
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Re: Horowitz: Republicans won’t even fight for self-defense
« Reply #104 on: July 05, 2020, 02:13:19 am »
The site is literally named "GOPbriefingroom". The depths to which you must delude yourself to maintain your self constructed ideological facade...are monumental. I'll give you a hint....you're not more conservative than the rest of us...you're not more principled in your conservatism...you're clearly not as well educated on what conservatism is...you don't see the President and who he is more clearly than the rest of us...and you do not get to define conservatism by your own definition.

What you and NT's have become, are simply condescending moral narcissists who sit on the sidelines whilst other men...and brave women...fight the fight of our century to preserve the soul of this country. And make no mistake, that is exactly what we are in the midst of. You do so by claiming that you and a select few others are the only true conservatives because the rest of us (and the President) don't see and do everything you think they should do.

You are the very definition of why conservatives are losing this country...in the face of Marxist revolution, you lack the core sense of rectitude and humility....common sense...to join with other "impure" conservatives (as you see them) to resist. My god man, do you think the Founding Fathers didn't have strong disagreements that they put aside in the face of British bayonets?

You didn't get the army and the exact leader you wanted...boo-hooo....and you seem to think this fact grants you the excuse of cowardly sitting on your hands and watching the rest of us fail because the Right in this country isn't as pure as you want it to be. Your inability to unite in the face of a determined and ruthless enemy is why we will quite likely lose this fight. Even then, when that becomes a reality, you will gloat and do nothing and proclaim how right you were that others weren't conservative enough and so the nation was lost...that lie will be the hill on which freedom dies. The epitaph of conservatism will be "they fought each other whilst Marxism crushed their freedoms and stole from them the greatest nation the world has ever seen".

Well said @Mesaclone    :thumbsup:

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Re: Horowitz: Republicans won’t even fight for self-defense
« Reply #105 on: July 05, 2020, 02:15:42 am »
Well said @Mesaclone    :thumbsup:

Love @Mesaclone

Reminds me of @MACVSOG68 and others like him that used to call this forum home.
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Re: Horowitz: Republicans won’t even fight for self-defense
« Reply #106 on: July 05, 2020, 02:16:13 am »
Okay, and OTOH, what you fail to bring up is that several AT's take the postion that if any conservative says absolutely anything negative, an equal amount of narcisstic driven viritrol is aimed back.  And don't dispute it.  I have been slimed 100's of times on this board for questioning the POTUS judgement.  I choose to be impartial.  Many here don't.

I personally don't understand how one can be impartial in the middle of a war.   :shrug:

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« Reply #107 on: July 05, 2020, 02:17:46 am »
Love @Mesaclone

Reminds me of @MACVSOG68 and others like him that used to call this forum home.

True, sad, but true. Although @Mesaclone would have more than held his own even back then.   happy77

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« Reply #108 on: July 05, 2020, 02:21:41 am »
I personally don't understand how one can be impartial in the middle of a war.   :shrug:

Exactly!

Pick a GD side.   

Sitting on the sideline claiming "Not my circus...not my monkeys" deserves all the derision one can muster. 

Bunch of freakazoids!
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Re: Horowitz: Republicans won’t even fight for self-defense
« Reply #109 on: July 05, 2020, 02:50:38 am »
I personally don't understand how one can be impartial in the middle of a war.   :shrug:
It's easy, if you are selling bullets to both sides.
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« Reply #110 on: July 05, 2020, 02:56:50 am »
I liked Reagan. For the most part, he did a good job, and did it with class.
Unfortunately, after Reagan, the GOP has changed. It has spent years being shepherded by Globalists, not the more nationalistic breed of American we need to truly look out for THIS country's interests, today.
Why?
Because Globalism, as a logistical thing, cannot ever serve the Rights and Liberty of the People. The consolidation of power needed to effectively have globalism as anything functional is better served by Marxist models, where in the end, there is an "elite" who hold dominion over all others and will brook no dissent, not even the worship of a God, whom they see as interfering in their diktats.

The Globalists in the GOP have allowed it, enabled it, encouraged policy which embraces Globalism/socialism, if not propelled it there, or simply stood aside while the Democrat/Marxists have done the job to the cheering and applause of their ignorant pawns. The minority who have not may get some air time and be held out as the face of the Party in election years, but there is no reason otherwise that slide continues than the defection and abandonment of national interests for global ones, no matter what cloak of prosperity for the few who benefit is wrapped around the loss of jobs, essential manufacturing, and the results of American research and development surrendered to foreign manufacturers for increased profit margins, effectively giving away a technological edge in not just trade, but in matters of National Security as well.

We, on the real Right, all want basically the same things, we don't agree on who is the "right" person to help us get them, the methods used to get them, or sometimes, even how much of those things we need to get.
Some would be happy with what used to be called a "centrist" position, but with the changes to the playing field, that's now considered in the MSM to be the "extreme right".
Some of us are farther right than that, some considerably so, combining all the fis-so-neo-crunchy-crusty-paleo- hyphenations in proper proportion into a position we consider to be truly conservative, one which embraces original intent with a few fine tuned changes, but which eschews the consolidation of power and which enforces the rights and Liberty of the individual and their respective States, placing the majority of power at the local and State level. 

The current iteration of the GOP is far to the left of that, and Original Intent isn't even on the page, at least with 5 of the 9 at SCOTUS.

So we're going to have differences of opinion, and what is truly "Conservative" is incessantly up for debate.

But right now, despite our differences, we'd better take one thing from Reagan.

We'd better quit kicking people out of the tent, and whether we like, agree with, or even have a hard time tolerating each other, we'd better get our shit together, square the ranks, and face the real enemy in the current Communist (there really is no other word for it--they are avowed Marxists) onslaught we are facing.

This is a war, for our culture, our art, our literature, our history (warts and all), for the soul of America, and I'd be happy to personally bitch slap anyone, ANYONE who would rather squabble than face that fact. Get your head right.

We have a rare gift, one bestowed upon us by the Grace of Almighty God, and a handful of men who pledged their Lives, their fortunes and their Sacred Honor to make it come about. Even after a protracted conflict, in which many battles, lives, and fortunes were lost, the War was won, and we had men intelligent enough to propose a form of government which permitted those individual nations to work in concert, and who, even more so, could recognize when those Articles of Confederation were insufficient for a lasting future, and to abandon those and devise a form of Government like no other on this planet, one which endured so long as we abide by it's basic principles.
That's where principles come in.
You cannot discard them without discarding the Republic that is built upon them, any more than you can jerk stones from a foundation and expect an edifice to stand. All the pragmatism in the universe will not fill that void, and sooner or later, the structure will crumble and collapse. This is something the Marxists know, and they have been chipping away at those foundations since before my lifetime, under a half dozen names, but all preaching the same god, the State.

You fight a war with the army you have, and the war of ideas is how we got to lawless zones in cities burning, occupied by avowed Marxists, their fellow travelers, and ignorant tools.
Our Army starts with the CinC, and goes right down to the lowliest keyboard commando, fought on every front from Service in the Armed Forces, to standing in front of a liquor store with a rifle during a riot, to posts on twitter.
 
If NOW, of all times you long for the old days of whatever you consider "purity", then stand alone in the square and fight.
Watch impotently as the icons of the past are replaced with the SJW marxist drivel of the future and enjoy your chains.

Damnit, the one consistent and ever-present tactic of the Communists is to divide their enemies and get them fighting amongst themselves. THEY don't do that until it is time to divide the spoils. They might martyr a couple to further the cause, but until the war is won, they'll be together. The farther I look back, the more I see of this divisive influence on the Conservative, the AMERICAN side of the equation, and the more evident in history is the obvious divisions placed in the Right by the Left, the Alinsky tactics used againstJoe McCarthy, the John Birch Society (Anticommunist, not antisemitic), Goldwater, and every Conservative who wants or has wanted a restoration of the Republic.

Wake up and see you have more allies than you would ever guess, if you have the sense to embrace them, and that goes for all of us, even as we face a much more dangerous enemy than any here.

Thank you, @Smokin Joe for such a thoughtful reply!  :patriot:
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Re: Horowitz: Republicans won’t even fight for self-defense
« Reply #111 on: July 05, 2020, 03:00:04 am »
Thank you, @Smokin Joe for such a thoughtful reply!  :patriot:
You're welcome. Have a great Independence Day.  :patriot:

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Re: Horowitz: Republicans won’t even fight for self-defense
« Reply #112 on: July 05, 2020, 03:01:21 am »
It's easy, if you are selling bullets to both sides.

Please explain.  Thanks @Smokin Joe

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« Reply #113 on: July 05, 2020, 03:06:46 am »
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Re: Horowitz: Republicans won’t even fight for self-defense
« Reply #114 on: July 05, 2020, 03:12:50 am »
Please explain.  Thanks @Smokin Joe
Those who only seek financial gain don't take a side, except to protect their investments; they make a profit.
If that means selling bullets to both sides, so be it. Their loyalty is only to their bottom line.

Look carefully at who set up who during WWII, for instance, industrially.

I.G. Farben (still not dissolved after all these years)https://www.csmonitor.com/1989/0809/farb.html
Bayer, now merged with Monsanto...(Agent Orange)https://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php/History_of_Bayer
Just to name a couple.

For extra fun, see: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2004/sep/25/usa.secondworldwar

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Re: Horowitz: Republicans won’t even fight for self-defense
« Reply #115 on: July 05, 2020, 03:12:57 am »
Thanks, mesaclone, for your comments early on.

But any thread with Chosen Daughter or roamer in it, isn't worth spending much time in. (they're on my ignore list, and I usually ignore the articles they post as well).

Having said that, Congressional Republicans are sure on the run, are they not?
The number amongst them willing to stand and fight is... small enough to count on one's fingers.
Maybe only on one hand.


There's a war coming. You know that as well as I do.
And there won't be many so-called "Republicans" left afterwards, no matter which side wins.

@Fishrrman

Correct in all respects,but the part I put in bold are,IMHO,the root of the problem. At any rate,they are the ones that piss me off the most. We SHOULD be able to expect elected Republican officials to act like actual Republicans,but that ain't the way it works these days. These days candidates do some research and find out which party is most likely to win an election in that area,and suddenly,like magic,THEY IZ ONE!

Bunch of self-serving back-stabbing bastards.
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Re: Horowitz: Republicans won’t even fight for self-defense
« Reply #116 on: July 05, 2020, 03:17:34 am »
@sneakypete

It's like we're all trapped inside an 'Alamo' of our own creation, and Dumb, Dumber and Dumbest are pissed off and refuse to fight because there are no Gatling guns or Winchesters.

Idiot Savants lacking an ounce of common sense.

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Must be nice to live in an artificial world,where everyone is honest and no one would lie to you or cheat you,huh?

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Re: Horowitz: Republicans won’t even fight for self-defense
« Reply #117 on: July 05, 2020, 03:20:58 am »
I know a lot of high IQ people who have no interest in wearing clean clothes and have a total lack of common sense and pragmatism.

"You go to war with the army you have...not the want you wish for".   There's a reason ages-old sayings survive.

That's "interesting" too!   happy77


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Re: Horowitz: Republicans won’t even fight for self-defense
« Reply #118 on: July 05, 2020, 03:24:08 am »
Well after skimming over the posts for an half hour.... Just seems like the same couple of posters that are ticked they can't just big tech block opinions they don't like.... A few high-fives between the same posters and all is well.

I like the forum because it gives insight from a few views. I don't care for the name calling some seem to have rutted into doing.

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Re: Horowitz: Republicans won’t even fight for self-defense
« Reply #119 on: July 05, 2020, 03:27:17 am »
Exactly!

Pick a GD side.   

Sitting on the sideline claiming "Not my circus...not my monkeys" deserves all the derision one can muster. 

Bunch of freakazoids!

F off. I'm voting for the jerk.  What else do you want me to do?  Kiss his ass?   9999hair out0000
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« Reply #120 on: July 05, 2020, 03:30:54 am »
F off. I'm voting for the jerk.  What else do you want me to do?  Kiss his ass?   9999hair out0000

Aww, shut the hell up.  Nobody's referring to you.   You declared your vote for President Trump eons ago.
 
Afterall, who would get pissed off at somebody who shares my love of baseball?   :laugh:
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« Reply #121 on: July 05, 2020, 03:36:18 am »

My brother, the doctor, went through medical school in record time, while supporting his wife & child.  Then he was valedictorian of his H.S. class.  Straight  A'S...all four years.  He voted for Obama and is a democrat.  He thinks he is some SJW..but could care less about his sister, me, or my children.  He did go to Karachi, Pakistan for 2 years to help them there, before he had to leave or be beheaded. My son, can't believe his uncles belief system.  SCREWED UP.

I know a literal genius.  He can speak engagingly with a person on any level.

But, you cannot get 3 feet into his house in fear of being buried in literal 'mountains' of trash which he calls memorabilia.

Six cases of used  7-11 "Big Gulp" cups...sorted by color.  But no place to sit.
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« Reply #122 on: July 05, 2020, 03:50:11 am »
Aww, shut the hell up.  Nobody's referring to you.   You declared your vote for President Trump eons ago.
 
Afterall, who would get pissed off at somebody who shares my love of baseball?   :laugh:


My apologies then.  I thought light was being made of my trying to be objective and impartial.  I just ask that my occasional critiiscm of Trump and his  decisions not be construed as traiterous in the eyes of the  AT side. I try to call 'em , as I see 'em.   It's up there with statue destruction as  personal flash point.

BTW...   Saw a pic of Chuck Schumer wearing a Nat's cap.  Any chance you guys sharing  a box next season?   :bolt:
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« Reply #123 on: July 05, 2020, 04:18:30 am »

BTW...   Saw a pic of Chuck Schumer wearing a Nat's cap.  Any chance you guys sharing  a box next season?   :bolt:


LOL!

Years ago, I found myself on the same flight with Schumer, from Baltimore to Buffalo, NY. 

He was going there to speak at a 'New and Improved' Buffalo airport wing or something.  I was just going for a haircut.

There was no 1st Class, etc., just the standard 737. 

Still think how easy it would have been to stab him in the eye with my plastic fork.  (insert evil grin)
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Re: Horowitz: Republicans won’t even fight for self-defense
« Reply #124 on: July 05, 2020, 04:18:38 am »
But right now, despite our differences, we'd better take one thing from Reagan.

We'd better quit kicking people out of the tent, and whether we like, agree with, or even have a hard time tolerating each other, we'd better get our shit together, square the ranks, and face the real enemy in the current Communist (there really is no other word for it--they are avowed Marxists) onslaught we are facing.

For the sale of the likes of Tumpy, Romney, or McCain't? For the lion's share of the RINOs that make up the Republicans?

Decades of voting for anyone with a pulse, simply because he is 'better than a democrat' has left the 'army you have' every bit as inclined toward globalism - and a carbon copy of the democrats y'all abhor.

The army you have, indeed. Like more of the same will get you anywhere.

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This is a war, for our culture, our art, our literature, our history (warts and all), for the soul of America, and I'd be happy to personally bitch slap anyone, ANYONE who would rather squabble than face that fact. Get your head right.

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Wake up and see you have more allies than you would ever guess, if you have the sense to embrace them, and that goes for all of us, even as we face a much more dangerous enemy than any here.


Sure. More rinos. Less purity. Because murica.   *****rollingeyes*****

Bullcrap. Not gonna fix a damn thing. I'm out.