Surgeon general urges widespread mask use: 'It is not a suppression of your freedom'

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Surgeon general urges widespread mask use: 'It is not a suppression of your freedom'
By Brett Samuels - 06/30/20 07:25 PM EDT

Surgeon General Jerome Adams on Tuesday implored Americans, and young Americans in particular, to wear masks as lawmakers and public health officials increasingly seek to break down partisan barriers about the use of face coverings.

Adams specifically sought to address arguments among some conservatives that requiring masks is an infringement on personal freedoms and civil liberties, arguing that wearing a mask will actually restore freedoms more quickly amid the coronavirus pandemic.

"Wear a face covering when you go out in public. It is not an inconvenience. It is not a suppression of your freedom. It actually Is a vehicle to achieve our goals," Adams said during a briefing with members of the White House coronavirus task force.

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[skeeter]

A bureaucrat telling me what is and isn't infringement of my freedom... whats wrong with that picture?

[Smokin Joe]

So who is right?

[Free Vulcan]

You are way above your pay grade there Sparky.

[jmyrlefuller]

Maybe he shouldn't have said literally the opposite back in March.

[GtHawk]

"It actually Is a vehicle to achieve our goals," Adams said

Yes Dr. Adams I really believe your statement, my fear and apprehension lies you and others not being completely honest about what those goals are.

[DB]

The chances of a cloth mask filtering out a virus is pretty close to zero.

[AL]

So now we hear from another swamp quack.  Only real purpose of these masks is to make the rioters and looters harder to identify.

[Smokin Joe]

So now we hear from another swamp quack.  Only real purpose of these masks is to make the rioters and looters harder to identify.

Yep!

[Jazzhead]

Adams is right.   Wear a damn mask - it is the key to reopening the economy,  and getting businesses back and folks  back to work. 

Now the "political" nature of the mask controversy is being used to slow reopening and keeping the economy slack through the election.   So whether or not you're a Trump supporter - and especially if you are - wear the damn mask.

[DB]

Adams is right.   Wear a damn mask - it is the key to reopening the economy,  and getting businesses back and folks  back to work. 

Now the "political" nature of the mask controversy is being used to slow reopening and keeping the economy slack through the election.   So whether or not you're a Trump supporter - and especially if you are - wear the damn mask.

How about an arm band instead? As a mark for those who "care". Because the "damn mask" doesn't do squat. Virtually no one is wearing an N95 mask, the ONLY one, that has any actual chance of blocking a virus in the air. And that one you can only wear once before you need to replace it.

How about a dose of reality?

[Jazzhead]

How about an arm band instead? As a mark for those who "care". Because the "damn mask" doesn't do squat. Virtually no one is wearing an N95 mask, the ONLY one, that has any actual chance of blocking a virus in the air. And that one you can only wear once before you need to replace it.

How about a dose of reality?

Here's a dose of reality - Trump is going to lose this election unless voters believe the coronavirus is under control and the economy is reopening/rebounding.   That reopening is already being delayed in some states by governors obsessed with mask wearing.

So wear the damn mask and help re-elect the President.  Act like a selfish jerk and watch the Dems sweep the White House and Congress.   That, sir, is reality.

[Cyber Liberty]

Adams is right.   Wear a damn mask - it is the key to reopening the economy,  and getting businesses back and folks  back to work. 

Now the "political" nature of the mask controversy is being used to slow reopening and keeping the economy slack through the election.   So whether or not you're a Trump supporter - and especially if you are - wear the damn mask.

If you want to write "I can't wait to submit!!" on your face, you go right on ahead.  It doesn't shock me.  I'll stick to non-compliance so I can look myself in the eye in the mirror.

[Cyber Liberty]

Here's a dose of reality - Trump is going to lose this election unless voters believe the coronavirus is under control and the economy is reopening/rebounding.   

So wear the damn mask and help re-elect the President.  Act like a selfish jerk and watch the Dems sweep the White House and Congress.   That, sir, is reality.

You have repeatedly stated that Trump will lose no matter what, and we need that winner Sanford in there instead. Failing that, you now say that if we all wear submission masks Trump will be saved?  Do Briefers look stupid, to you?     

That, sir, is reality.

You said it, not I.

[jmyrlefuller]

If you want to write "I can't wait to submit!!" on your face, you go right on ahead.  It doesn't shock me.  I'll stick to non-compliance so I can look myself in the eye in the mirror.

And end up in the hospital like hundreds of thousands of others who thought the same damn thing.

[240B]

If you want to write "I can't wait to submit!!" on your face, you go right on ahead.  It doesn't shock me.  I'll stick to non-compliance so I can look myself in the eye in the mirror.

We all know the 'mask' issue is more about government domination than it is about health. However, the guys I deal with are scared little clerks who have no idea what is going on. I will wear my Jesse James bandana for them. It is stupid. I does nothing for any virus. But if it will make some clerk's day easier then, What the hell?

[Cyber Liberty]

And end up in the hospital like hundreds of thousands of others who thought the same damn thing.

I'm not asking YOU to do it, @jmyrlefuller, so I'll be happy to ask you to MYOFB.

[Cyber Liberty]

We all know the 'mask' issue is more about government domination than it is about health. However, the guys I deal with are scared little clerks who have no idea what is going on. I will wear my Jesse James bandana for them. It is stupid. I does nothing for any virus. But if it will make some clerk's day easier then, What the hell?

For the clerks stuck in the middle, I'd do it, but I'll be damned if I do without being asked.  If it's necessary to do business, I'll make that calculus on a case by case basis.  Maybe I'll do ask asked (if I'm asked nicely), or maybe I'll take my business elsewhere.

[XenaLee]

I'm not asking YOU to do it, @jmyrlefuller, so I'll be happy to ask you to MYOFB.

       

[roamer_1]

How about an arm band instead? As a mark for those who "care". Because the "damn mask" doesn't do squat. Virtually no one is wearing an N95 mask, the ONLY one, that has any actual chance of blocking a virus in the air. And that one you can only wear once before you need to replace it.

How about a dose of reality?

Even that is not true. If one has the Wuhan bug, the exahuast on the N95 is unfiltered. So anyone who is asymptomatic is walking around spreading it anyway. And it offers zero eye protection.

The ONLY thing that offers REAL protection is a full face mask with filters on intake and exhaust, or a wholly self contained (piped) air system.

That's why you don't see anything other than that in virus labs.

[roamer_1]

So wear the damn mask [...]

No. Not a single damn chance in hell of that happening. I will not comply.

[DB]

And end up in the hospital like hundreds of thousands of others who thought the same damn thing.

The corona virus is about 120 nm in size. A cloth mask provides essentially zero protection against that.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5906272/

In addition, your eyes are also entry points for any virus that is airborne. Your eyes are moist and act like collectors for anything floating around in the air.

If you fully cover your eyes and wear an N95 mask that is properly fitted you have a shot at avoiding an airborne contagion.

Otherwise not so much. Just feel good bullshit.

[DB]

Even that is not true. If one has the Wuhan bug, the exahuast on the N95 is unfiltered. So anyone who is asymptomatic is walking around spreading it anyway. And it offers zero eye protection.

The ONLY thing that offers REAL protection is a full face mask with filters on intake and exhaust, or a wholly self contained (piped) air system.

That's why you don't see anything other than that in virus labs.

My N95 masks don't have exhaust valves. So these are likely bidirectional in filtering. But that isn't the point... And yes, the eyes are also an entry point that I've mentioned numerous times.

[roamer_1]

My N95 masks don't have exhaust valves. So these are likely bidirectional in filtering. But that isn't the point...

Huh. The ones I have here have a flapper valve on an exhaust port open to daylight... Stops intake, lets exhaust... 

And yes, the eyes are also an entry point that I've mentioned numerous times.

Me too - Folks don't seem to hear it.

[Jazzhead]

You have repeatedly stated that Trump will lose no matter what, and we need that winner Sanford in there instead. Failing that, you now say that if we all wear submission masks Trump will be saved?  Do Briefers look stupid, to you?     

Well, some of the thoughts expressed on this thread are idiotic, or selfish, or both.   

Let's put aside my views about Donald Trump.   I could care less about that self-destructive fool;  I care about the GOP retaining the Senate,  because if we don't, it's ALL over.   We can play effective defense for a few years with the Senate,  but if Trump drags the GOP down,  the Dems will get rid of the filibuster and eviscerate minority rights.   The freedom-inspired American Revolution will be replaced the Jacobin left's appetite for destruction.

But our interests still align.  What will encourage a Trump victory will, broadly speaking, help encourage GOP victory in the Senate.   So let's work together, even as we may hold our noses at the sight of each other.   

The idiots who are politicizing the issue of masks are pulling down Trump and the GOP.    Here in Pennsy and New Jersey,   Dem governors have seized upon evidence that some folks in the south and west are refusing to wear masks to justify slowing down or stopping the reopening of their economies.   Folks remain out of work,  and some are facing tragic choices regarding their businesses, their livelihoods, and their mortgages and health insurance.   And those with no immediate prospects for the future have the time and inclination to protest, loot and riot.   

If the economy isn't robust and recovering come November WE LOSE.    The simple expedient of wearing a mask is the key to reopening the economy,  and the politicization of the issue has provided the Dems with the excuse to keep that from happening. 

You're an idiot if you knowingly play into the hands of your enemy.  Trump's proven his idiocy in this regard many times over;  don't follow him down that self-destructive road.