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Supreme Court strikes down Louisiana abortion restrictions
« on: June 29, 2020, 02:20:19 pm »
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Supreme Court strikes down Louisiana abortion restrictions
By John Kruzel - 06/29/20 10:16 AM EDT

The Supreme Court on Monday struck down a Louisiana abortion law, a victory for abortion rights advocates concerned that the conservative court would break with past rulings to rein in protections that emerged from the landmark decision in Roe v. Wade.

The justices voted 5-4 to invalidate Louisiana’s admitting-privilege law in the first major abortion ruling of the Trump era, which comes after the court struck down a nearly identical Texas law four years ago.

The decision Thursday was the clearest indication yet that the court, which now tilts more conservative with the addition of President Trump’s two nominees, is pursuing a more restrained approach than many abortion rights advocates feared.

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Re: Supreme Court strikes down Louisiana abortion restrictions
« Reply #1 on: June 29, 2020, 02:21:13 pm »
Once again Roberts sides with the libs...
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« Reply #2 on: June 29, 2020, 02:24:18 pm »
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« Reply #3 on: June 29, 2020, 02:33:32 pm »
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« Reply #4 on: June 29, 2020, 02:35:05 pm »
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Re: Supreme Court strikes down Louisiana abortion restrictions
« Reply #5 on: June 29, 2020, 04:02:32 pm »
Once again Roberts sides with the libs...

I have no issue whatsoever with the principle that government cannot place an "undue burden" on the exercise of a Constitutional right.  But will they apply the same principle to the 2A right?
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Re: Supreme Court strikes down Louisiana abortion restrictions
« Reply #6 on: June 29, 2020, 04:15:49 pm »
Four Conservative Dissents in Supreme Court’s Louisiana Abortion Law Decision

Joel B. Pollak 29 Jun 2020

Four conservative justices wrote four separate dissents to the decision Monday in June Medical Services v. Russo upholding a challenge to a Louisiana abortion law requiring abortion providers to have hospital admitting privileges.

Justice Clarence Thomas wrote that the rules of standing should have prevented abortion providers from suing on behalf of theoretical patients. He also revisited the tortured history of Roe v. Wade, reiterating that the Court had simply made up the right to abortion in that case based on supposed “penumbras” and “emanations,” and that it was inappropriate to invoke precedent based on that flawed decision.

“Our abortion jurisprudence remains in a state of utter entropy,” Thomas observed.

Justice Samuel Alito also said that the plaintiffs lacked standing to sue. He noted that the immediate precedent cited by the majority, Whole Woman’s Health v. Hellerstedt (2016) involved a Texas law that had already gone into effect. In contrast, the effects of the Louisiana law were not yet known. (Justice Brett Kavanaugh wrote a separate, short dissent effectively agreeing with Alito on this point, saying that additional fact-finding was necessary before a decision.)

But Alito went further, noting that the decision relied on the dubious argument that requiring abortion providers to have hospital admitting privileges infringed on women’s rights. There was no limit to that principle, he observed, adding that weaker protections, such as basic medical certification, could also be challenged as a threat to women’s rights, under the majority’s opinions. “When an abortion regulation is enacted for the asserted purpose of protecting the health of women, an abortion provider seeking to strike down that law should not be able to rely on the constitutional rights of women,” he wrote. “Like any other party unhappy with burdensome regulation, the provider should be limited to its own rights.”

Justice Neil Gorsuch focused his dissent on the numerous judicial rules he said the majority had broken in its rush to protect abortion.

“Today’s decision doesn’t just overlook one of these [judicial] rules. It overlooks one after another,” he wrote.

The opinion for the 5-4 majority was written by Chief Justice John Roberts — the latest controversial opinion in which he has sided with the four Democratic appointees against the nominal conservative majority of which he is ostensibly part.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/06/29/four-conservative-dissents-in-supreme-courts-louisiana-abortion-law-decision/
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« Reply #7 on: June 29, 2020, 04:16:31 pm »
I have no issue whatsoever with the principle that government cannot place an "undue burden" on the exercise of a Constitutional right.  But will they apply the same principle to the 2A right?

There is no constitutional right to take another's life except by due process, just cause, or in the defense of self and others.

That government sanctions the taking of life without due process or just cause is the single most glaring abuse of the Constitution in modern times.

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« Reply #8 on: June 29, 2020, 04:23:40 pm »
There is no constitutional right to take another's life except by due process, just cause, or in the defense of self and others.

That government sanctions the taking of life without due process or just cause is the single most glaring abuse of the Constitution in modern times.

A fetus has no Constitutional rights.  Women do.  Gun owners do.   The principle at stake - that a Constitutional right is not subject to arbitrary government action that unduly burdens that right - is sound as a pound.   But both left and right are utterly cynical about applying the principal selectively,  only to the rights they favor.
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« Reply #9 on: June 29, 2020, 04:27:26 pm »
Again, when it really matters, Roberts tilts left.  You can bank on it.

We need to investigate to see who or what organization is blackmailing the Chief Justice.  This is beyond suspicion.
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« Reply #10 on: June 29, 2020, 04:35:14 pm »
Again, when it really matters, Roberts tilts left.  You can bank on it.

We need to investigate to see who or what organization is blackmailing the Chief Justice.  This is beyond suspicion.

Roberts is on the right, conservative side here -  a Constitutional right is meaningless if activist government can construct an arbitrary contrivance to keep that right from being freely exercised.

Bet y'all will agree with me when the right being taken away is your gun right.
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« Reply #12 on: June 29, 2020, 04:36:07 pm »
A fetus has no Constitutional rights.

If the most innocent among us have no rights, then neither do we. Calling a baby a fetus does not change the reality.

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« Reply #13 on: June 29, 2020, 04:48:04 pm »
If the most innocent among us have no rights, then neither do we. Calling a baby a fetus does not change the reality.

Then make your case.   Just don't demand that government impose your moral values on others.  Some folks feel it's abhorrent that you own a bunch of guns.  But you still have the right to decide that for yourself.

The abortion issue has the uncanny ability to make both right and left appear as hypocrites
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« Reply #14 on: June 29, 2020, 04:49:46 pm »
Roberts is on the right, conservative side here -  a Constitutional right is meaningless if activist government can construct an arbitrary contrivance to keep that right from being freely exercised.

Bet y'all will agree with me when the right being taken away is your gun right.

You really think Roberts won't be on the liberal side on that, too.

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« Reply #15 on: June 29, 2020, 04:53:55 pm »
You really think Roberts won't be on the liberal side on that, too.

He's a Liberal, Deal with it!

He's a conservative and always has been.   The abortion issue exposes conservatives as hypocrites,  just as the gun issue exposes liberals as hypocrites.
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« Reply #16 on: June 29, 2020, 05:01:00 pm »
Roberts is on the right, conservative side here -  a Constitutional right is meaningless if activist government can construct an arbitrary contrivance to keep that right from being freely exercised.

Bet y'all will agree with me when the right being taken away is your gun right.

OTOH, you okay with this as far as Roe v. Wade precedence, and further rulings? 

And don't worry, when the chips are down, Roberts will screw us on 2A rights too. 
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If the most innocent among us have no rights, then neither do we. Calling a baby a fetus does not change the reality.

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« Reply #18 on: June 29, 2020, 05:02:53 pm »
He's a conservative and always has been. 

You've really been asleep the past few years haven't you?  How'd that Obamacare ruling work out for us? :whistle:
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« Reply #19 on: June 29, 2020, 05:08:32 pm »
Then make your case.   Just don't demand that government impose your moral values on others.  Some folks feel it's abhorrent that you own a bunch of guns.  But you still have the right to decide that for yourself.

The abortion issue has the uncanny ability to make both right and left appear as hypocrites

That IS the case. You're killing babies. A sacrificial offering to Molech, just as horrendous as laying them in his red hot arms... You cannot justify it with the absurdities of political speech and supposed science. It is what it is. A sacrifice of life to continue fornication without consequence.

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« Reply #20 on: June 29, 2020, 05:27:34 pm »
Then make your case.   Just don't demand that government impose your moral values on others.  Some folks feel it's abhorrent that you own a bunch of guns.  But you still have the right to decide that for yourself.

The abortion issue has the uncanny ability to make both right and left appear as hypocrites
Easy case to make my friend.  Open a Bible for once in your life and you'll see the answer. 

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« Reply #21 on: June 29, 2020, 05:39:20 pm »
A fetus has no Constitutional rights.  Women do.  Gun owners do.   The principle at stake - that a Constitutional right is not subject to arbitrary government action that unduly burdens that right - is sound as a pound.   But both left and right are utterly cynical about applying the principal selectively,  only to the rights they favor.

A fetus is a life.   It's living inside the womb.  It's moving, it's taking nourishment.   I don't care what the court or the pro-abortion folks say.

Maybe you remember this from the Declaration of Independence:

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« Reply #23 on: June 29, 2020, 05:45:52 pm »
He's a conservative and always has been.   The abortion issue exposes conservatives as hypocrites,  just as the gun issue exposes liberals as hypocrites.

??? He's been voting consistently liberal. Please explain how the abortion issue makes conservatives hypocrites?
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« Reply #24 on: June 29, 2020, 05:47:31 pm »
Once again Roberts sides with the libs...

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