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Re: Trump denies he was briefed on reported bounties on US troops
« Reply #75 on: June 30, 2020, 04:57:11 am »
For the Fourth time, now, with feeling.

JUST WHAT IS TRUMP SUPPOSED TO DO ABOUT THIS, EVEN IF IT WAS HAPPENING?

I await a rational reply.
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Re: Trump denies he was briefed on reported bounties on US troops
« Reply #76 on: June 30, 2020, 05:02:45 am »
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GD troll b*tch.

And you get up on the soapbox calling ME a pox on the forum.

As @XenaLee so eloquently said up thread:  KMA.

Listen, I also think @Chosen Daughter was out of line. The KMA reply handled it... But looking at your posting record, you rarely post this late and we know @Cyber Liberty also goes to be bed usually before this time.

It is almost like you timed your reply (which is even more out of line that CD) to last the longest without being pulled. A troll tactic if actually planed that way. Just my observation.

Yeah yeah, I know, I can kiss you butt.... Go to bed folks and come out feeling better tomorrow. I know I am (maybe, would be nice to actually get a decent hour of sleep again).
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Re: Trump denies he was briefed on reported bounties on US troops
« Reply #77 on: June 30, 2020, 05:13:23 am »
You sure are (unbelievable).  Why don't you kiss my @ss.
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Re: Trump denies he was briefed on reported bounties on US troops
« Reply #78 on: June 30, 2020, 05:42:46 am »
Pelosi on reported bounties on US troops: 'I don't know what the Russians have on the president'
https://thehill.com/homenews/sunday-talk-shows/504904-pelosi-on-reported-us-troop-bounties-i-dont-know-what-the-russians
Here we go with Muh Russia again. LOL  Give up, Deep State/Uniparty.  They keep recycling the same bs.

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Re: Trump denies he was briefed on reported bounties on US troops
« Reply #79 on: June 30, 2020, 05:46:29 am »
Does that mean he might lose your vote?   yogi555
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Re: Trump denies he was briefed on reported bounties on US troops
« Reply #80 on: June 30, 2020, 06:25:48 am »
If hard to imagine how any fair minded person would unwittingly fall for yet another one of these political scams.

Anyone who would beleive that a sitting POTUS would idly sit on a story and do nothing about bounties on US soldiers? 

Trump's done some dumb things, but this claim is beyond preposterous.  Zero chance it happened.  Any Briefer who gives this the slightest credibility, has gone off the rails. 
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Re: Trump denies he was briefed on reported bounties on US troops
« Reply #81 on: June 30, 2020, 07:58:27 am »
Listen, I also think @Chosen Daughter was out of line. The KMA reply handled it... But looking at your posting record, you rarely post this late and we know @Cyber Liberty also goes to be bed usually before this time.

It is almost like you timed your reply (which is even more out of line that CD) to last the longest without being pulled. A troll tactic if actually planed that way. Just my observation.

Yeah yeah, I know, I can kiss you butt.... Go to bed folks and come out feeling better tomorrow. I know I am (maybe, would be nice to actually get a decent hour of sleep again).

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Not a "troll tactic", sir.  If you're accusing me of trolling, just what does the hallowed forum's anointed 'daughter' fall under?

I no longer sleep very well.   Only in 2 hour increments.  Prostate the size of a cantaloupe.

And @Cyber Liberty  was pinged because he's the Warden here.   



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Re: Trump denies he was briefed on reported bounties on US troops
« Reply #82 on: June 30, 2020, 08:46:55 am »
For the Fourth time, now, with feeling.

JUST WHAT IS TRUMP SUPPOSED TO DO ABOUT THIS, EVEN IF IT WAS HAPPENING?

I await a rational reply.
not try and push Russia back into the G7? Condemn them, more sanctions etc

Seems trump and there fans are more angry about the leak or “fake news” than a threat against the soldiers who are heroes.

Australia and UK intel have said it was a credible threat, so it’s not even fake news.

The first response was it’s fake news, then second response was it’s not fake but the president wasn’t informed, the next response was it wasn’t given to the president because it wasn’t credible.

Which one is it?

New reports are saying he was given it in a report, did he just not read it?
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Re: Trump denies he was briefed on reported bounties on US troops
« Reply #83 on: June 30, 2020, 09:52:07 am »
not try and push Russia back into the G7? Condemn them, more sanctions etc

Seems trump and there fans are more angry about the leak or “fake news” than a threat against the soldiers who are heroes.

Australia and UK intel have said it was a credible threat, so it’s not even fake news.

The first response was it’s fake news, then second response was it’s not fake but the president wasn’t informed, the next response was it wasn’t given to the president because it wasn’t credible.

Which one is it?

New reports are saying he was given it in a report, did he just not read it?

FYI.... U.K. and Australia were involved in the fake Steele Dossier.  That's what their words are worth.
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Re: Trump denies he was briefed on reported bounties on US troops
« Reply #84 on: June 30, 2020, 10:12:05 am »
not try and push Russia back into the G7? Condemn them, more sanctions etc

Seems trump and there fans are more angry about the leak or “fake news” than a threat against the soldiers who are heroes.

Australia and UK intel have said it was a credible threat, so it’s not even fake news.

The first response was it’s fake news, then second response was it’s not fake but the president wasn’t informed, the next response was it wasn’t given to the president because it wasn’t credible.

Which one is it?

New reports are saying he was given it in a report, did he just not read it?
For starters, our troops are in harm's way over there. It is part of the job. That the Russians might put a bounty on our troops, if credible reopens the idea that maybe the old Soviet and US animosities aren't completely gone. Which, imho means Communism isn't dead, just repackaged and rebranded--not such a bad idea if your country is on the ropes. Besides, declaring Communism dead is like the Devil convincing people he doesn't exist. A lot of dirty work can be done and any attribution passed off to lesser entities while the unified plan goes head.

That said, One source says not credible, another says it is, but there are some highly questionable bits from those sources which have been used to keep the US in somewhat of a turmoil for three years, and as an excuse to toss any rules, laws, and Constitutionality of investigations that frankly, were a quantum leap in spying on another political campaign. Nixon' Plumbers were amateur pikers compared to that lot. and the third response says the same as the first, that the information was not credible. Publish that in the NYT and my BS meter goes off.

Keeping Russia close means more opportunities to find out what is going on.

Push them out of the G7 and inpose more sanctions and they will play games with oil prices you may not have noticed, but which rocked the industry a few days before the COVID-19 bit even came into play. It is in our national interest to keep those prices above $40/bbl and reasonably stable. Trust me on that. It's a big part of rejuvenating our economy. It was the Russians and Saudis at OPEC+ who crashed the price that set up something unprecedented in the industry--oil prices going negative.

If there is truth to the matter, however, any intel will be harder to get now that the NYT has flapped their journalistic lips about the whole thing, which will make it much harder to drop a missile from a predator on a payoff somewhere. The Grey Lady never fails to deliver for her paying customers.
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Re: Trump denies he was briefed on reported bounties on US troops
« Reply #85 on: June 30, 2020, 10:34:47 am »
FYI.... U.K. and Australia were involved in the fake Steele Dossier.  That's what their words are worth.
this is FAKE news. The uk government and intelligence agencies said they didn’t believe the dossier and specifically wrote a memo to Flynn saying so. That has been brought up time and again and was brought up in Congress.

The Australian side was literally nothing to do with the Steele dossier, more to do with Papadopoulos telling an Australia diplomat saying the Russians have dirt on Clinton.

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Re: Trump denies he was briefed on reported bounties on US troops
« Reply #86 on: June 30, 2020, 10:57:59 am »
Seems trump and there fans are more angry about the leak or “fake news” than a threat against the soldiers who are heroes.

Australia and UK intel have said it was a credible threat, so it’s not even fake news.

@Stevensr123 

It would be refreshing if you could ask a question or express an opinion on current events without disrespecting fellow Briefers who support the President.  I know I would appreciate it.

Rep. Banks served in Afghanistan during the time the alleged bounties were placed.  After he attended yesterday's White House briefing he tweeted the following  --- furious at the damage the NYT has done simply to advance the DNC agenda. 

As for Australia and the UK ... they have proven themselves biased and unreliable on all things Russian intelligence.  It's going to take time for them to repair the damage they have done to themselves.

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I just left the White House where I was briefed by CoS @MarkMeadows and top intelligence officials. They discussed @nytimes' hit piece falsely accusing @realDonaldTrump of ignoring reports that Russia placed bounties on American soldiers in Afghanistan.

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https://twitter.com/RepJimBanks/status/1277684823063171073

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The real scandal: We’ll likely never know the truth… Because the @nytimes used unconfirmed intel in an ONGOING investigation into targeted killing of American soldiers in order to smear the President. The blood is on their hands.

3:33 PM · Jun 29, 2020·Twitter Web App


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Sad, but many in the media & Congress rushed to judgement before learning the whole story. We should treat anonymously sourced @nytimes stories about Russia w/ skepticism.

Here's a fact: No President in my lifetime has been tougher on Russia than @realDonaldTrump
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Re: Trump denies he was briefed on reported bounties on US troops
« Reply #87 on: June 30, 2020, 11:36:20 am »
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Sad, but many in the media & Congress rushed to judgement before learning the whole story. We should treat anonymously sourced @nytimes stories about Russia w/ skepticism.

Here's a fact: No President in my lifetime has been tougher on Russia than @realDonaldTrump

@Stevensr123  Try using facts not emotion in your misinformed criticism of the president. It’s a shame you have no idea what’s good for you and your country in 126 days.

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Re: Trump denies he was briefed on reported bounties on US troops
« Reply #88 on: June 30, 2020, 01:11:19 pm »
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You know I have only been on the forum for four years but I never considered using the ignore feature until recently when I just could not take a certain posters blatant bias and irrational posting anymore without my blood pressure spiking. It's only been a day but it is actually blissful since I no longer see her ranting and raving. And it's so easy to pass by the lunacy that gets through when others quote her diatribes. Yup a good old  Meidung on my part was over due.

I have used the ignore feature for one other poster .... but it really does no good since you can still get pinged by the person you're ignoring....plus you still see their posts in the quotes of others, so it doesn't really 'work' to filter out the idiocy.   I usually take her BS in stride and have been more amused than angry in the past... but I do have my limits and when you catch me in the right (wrong) mood...."s" happens.  I'm only human!  lololol

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Re: Trump denies he was briefed on reported bounties on US troops
« Reply #89 on: June 30, 2020, 01:12:51 pm »
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I no longer sleep very well.   Only in 2 hour increments.  Prostate the size of a cantaloupe.



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Re: Trump denies he was briefed on reported bounties on US troops
« Reply #90 on: June 30, 2020, 01:15:00 pm »
Anyone who would beleive that a sitting POTUS would idly sit on a story and do nothing about bounties on US soldiers? 

Trump's done some dumb things, but this claim is beyond preposterous.  Zero chance it happened.  Any Briefer who gives this the slightest credibility, has gone off the rails.

That, plus... the stats don't show any increase, drastic or otherwise, in the deaths of US soldiers.   They don't, as usual, have facts or truth on their side.   Just another (one of many) contrived myth that they hope works to keep Trump from being re-elected.  Expect many more of these attempts over the next four months.
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Re: Trump denies he was briefed on reported bounties on US troops
« Reply #91 on: June 30, 2020, 01:15:42 pm »
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Not a "troll tactic", sir.  If you're accusing me of trolling, just what does the hallowed forum's anointed 'daughter' fall under?

I no longer sleep very well.   Only in 2 hour increments.  Prostate the size of a cantaloupe.

And @Cyber Liberty  was pinged because he's the Warden here.   

One of 'em anyway.  I think today might be a "short fuse" day.
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Re: Trump denies he was briefed on reported bounties on US troops
« Reply #92 on: June 30, 2020, 01:23:38 pm »
For starters, our troops are in harm's way over there. It is part of the job. That the Russians might put a bounty on our troops, if credible reopens the idea that maybe the old Soviet and US animosities aren't completely gone. Which, imho means Communism isn't dead, just repackaged and rebranded--not such a bad idea if your country is on the ropes. Besides, declaring Communism dead is like the Devil convincing people he doesn't exist. A lot of dirty work can be done and any attribution passed off to lesser entities while the unified plan goes head.

That said, One source says not credible, another says it is, but there are some highly questionable bits from those sources which have been used to keep the US in somewhat of a turmoil for three years, and as an excuse to toss any rules, laws, and Constitutionality of investigations that frankly, were a quantum leap in spying on another political campaign. Nixon' Plumbers were amateur pikers compared to that lot. and the third response says the same as the first, that the information was not credible. Publish that in the NYT and my BS meter goes off.

Keeping Russia close means more opportunities to find out what is going on.

Push them out of the G7 and inpose more sanctions and they will play games with oil prices you may not have noticed, but which rocked the industry a few days before the COVID-19 bit even came into play. It is in our national interest to keep those prices above $40/bbl and reasonably stable. Trust me on that. It's a big part of rejuvenating our economy. It was the Russians and Saudis at OPEC+ who crashed the price that set up something unprecedented in the industry--oil prices going negative.

If there is truth to the matter, however, any intel will be harder to get now that the NYT has flapped their journalistic lips about the whole thing, which will make it much harder to drop a missile from a predator on a payoff somewhere. The Grey Lady never fails to deliver for her paying customers.

Exactly.  If anyone is in bed with Putin... it's the leftist aholes at the NY Slimes.   And that has been true for as long as I can remember.   Same goes for WaPo.  Both rags are an extension and branch of the Democratic Party.

We have glaringly obvious enemies of America operating in plain sight for decades.... yet the DemocRats point that blame finger elsewhere.  They are America's Enemy Within.  It's time for ALL Americans to wake the hell up to the threat and the reality we are faced with... finally.


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Re: Trump denies he was briefed on reported bounties on US troops
« Reply #93 on: June 30, 2020, 01:25:14 pm »
One of 'em anyway.  I think today might be a "short fuse" day.

Not for me.   Today will be a "reset" day from a previous ...um... overload.  lololol
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Re: Trump denies he was briefed on reported bounties on US troops
« Reply #94 on: June 30, 2020, 01:28:06 pm »
Not for me.   Today will be a "reset" day from a previous ...um... overload.  lololol

Well, my Governor thinks he can slap everybody in chains again, and I think he'll have trouble enforcing it.  I hope so, anyway.

So-and-so better not be slinging shit all day, as usual.  I'm just not in the mood, and I'd like to create a couple days of relative peace on the Forum.
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Re: Trump denies he was briefed on reported bounties on US troops
« Reply #95 on: June 30, 2020, 01:29:59 pm »
I think today might be a "short fuse" day.

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Re: Trump denies he was briefed on reported bounties on US troops
« Reply #97 on: June 30, 2020, 01:36:12 pm »
Well, my Governor thinks he can slap everybody in chains again, and I think he'll have trouble enforcing it.  I hope so, anyway.

So-and-so better not be slinging shit all day, as usual.  I'm just not in the mood, and I'd like to create a couple days of relative peace on the Forum.

I hear ya.  We cannot afford to fall prey to the ssdd divisiveness that the other side loves to use against us.  It's a critical time and we need to focus on combating the enemy.   So.....

to a peaceful, but productive, day (or three)!   :beer:
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Re: Trump denies he was briefed on reported bounties on US troops
« Reply #98 on: June 30, 2020, 02:23:13 pm »
not try and push Russia back into the G7? Condemn them, more sanctions etc

Seems trump and there fans are more angry about the leak or “fake news” than a threat against the soldiers who are heroes.

Australia and UK intel have said it was a credible threat, so it’s not even fake news.

The first response was it’s fake news, then second response was it’s not fake but the president wasn’t informed, the next response was it wasn’t given to the president because it wasn’t credible.

Which one is it?

New reports are saying he was given it in a report, did he just not read it?

Good question and truth^
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