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Trump denies he was briefed on reported bounties on US troops
By Kyle Balluck - 06/28/20 07:43 AM EDT


President Trump early Sunday denied that he had been briefed on reported Russian bounties placed on U.S. troops in Afghanistan and called for The New York Times to identify its source.

"Nobody briefed or told me, @VP Pence, or Chief of Staff @MarkMeadows about the so-called attacks on our troops in Afghanistan by Russians, as reported through an 'anonymous source' by the Fake News @nytimes," Trump tweeted.

"Everybody is denying it & there have not been many attacks on us. Nobody’s been tougher on Russia than the Trump Administration. With Corrupt Joe Biden & Obama, Russia had a field day, taking over important parts of Ukraine - Where’s Hunter? Probably just another phony Times hit job, just like their failed Russia Hoax. Who is their 'source'?" he added.

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Re: Trump denies he was briefed on reported bounties on US troops
« Reply #1 on: June 28, 2020, 02:30:45 pm »
Top GOP lawmaker calls for answers from White House after report on Russian bounties on US forces
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/504899-top-gop-lawmaker-calls-for-answers-from-white-house-after-report-on
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Re: Trump denies he was briefed on reported bounties on US troops
« Reply #2 on: June 28, 2020, 02:31:16 pm »
Pelosi on reported bounties on US troops: 'I don't know what the Russians have on the president'
https://thehill.com/homenews/sunday-talk-shows/504904-pelosi-on-reported-us-troop-bounties-i-dont-know-what-the-russians
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Re: Trump denies he was briefed on reported bounties on US troops
« Reply #3 on: June 28, 2020, 02:33:04 pm »
Spy chief Ratcliffe says Trump never briefed on Russia offering Taliban bounties
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/spy-chief-ratcliffe-says-trump-never-briefed-on-russia-offering-taliban-bounties
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Re: Trump denies he was briefed on reported bounties on US troops
« Reply #4 on: June 28, 2020, 02:45:26 pm »
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I never heard this. And it’s disgusting how you continue to politicize intelligence. You clearly don’t understand how raw intel gets verified. Leaks of partial information to reporters from anonymous sources is dangerous because people like you manipulate it for political gain.

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Dear @RichardGrenell: Did you really not tell @realDonaldTrump and @VP Pence that Russia was paying militants to kill US troops?

Or is @PressSec lying? twitter.com/JoshNBCNews/st…

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Re: Trump denies he was briefed on reported bounties on US troops
« Reply #5 on: June 28, 2020, 02:47:42 pm »
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You are basing a whole bunch of assumptions on an anonymous source from the NYT.

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This raises the obvious and very serious question: The US had intelligence that Russia was paying militants to kill US & allied troops, and officials decided NOT to tell the president or VP about it?

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Re: Trump denies he was briefed on reported bounties on US troops
« Reply #6 on: June 28, 2020, 02:54:17 pm »
Spy chief Ratcliffe says Trump never briefed on Russia offering Taliban bounties
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/spy-chief-ratcliffe-says-trump-never-briefed-on-russia-offering-taliban-bounties

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Re: Trump denies he was briefed on reported bounties on US troops
« Reply #7 on: June 28, 2020, 02:57:21 pm »
The New York Times stopped reporting real news about the time they announced in 2017 that truth didn’t matter as long as the lie was used in service of ousting President Trump.

Trump was right to brand the media as fake news and that they were in fact enemies of the American people.

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Re: Trump denies he was briefed on reported bounties on US troops
« Reply #8 on: June 28, 2020, 03:36:01 pm »
The whole world is having a good laugh at America being taken over from within by communists.  Why would Putin or any of our enemies interrupt the self destruction.

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Re: Trump denies he was briefed on reported bounties on US troops
« Reply #9 on: June 28, 2020, 04:24:14 pm »
So what is next?  We just let a media outlet publish something the President says is false and forget about it?  Especially a sensitive foreign policy matter like this?
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Re: Trump denies he was briefed on reported bounties on US troops
« Reply #10 on: June 28, 2020, 05:54:53 pm »
So what is next?  We just let a media outlet publish something the President says is false and forget about it?  Especially a sensitive foreign policy matter like this?

First Amendment.
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Re: Trump denies he was briefed on reported bounties on US troops
« Reply #11 on: June 28, 2020, 06:03:11 pm »
First Amendment.
If the left applied the same conditions to the First as they want to apply to the second.....
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Re: Trump denies he was briefed on reported bounties on US troops
« Reply #12 on: June 28, 2020, 06:11:37 pm »
If the left applied the same conditions to the First as they want to apply to the second.....

Hell, they don't follow any of it all, so what's new?
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« Reply #13 on: June 28, 2020, 06:42:36 pm »
So what is next?  We just let a media outlet publish something the President says is false and forget about it?  Especially a sensitive foreign policy matter like this?

 
I guess we’ll have to see where the story ends up. And I think it’s time to get out of Afghanistan
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« Reply #14 on: June 28, 2020, 06:46:53 pm »

I guess we’ll have to see where the story ends up. And I think it’s time to get out of Afghanistan


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Re: Trump denies he was briefed on reported bounties on US troops
« Reply #15 on: June 28, 2020, 06:57:05 pm »

I guess we’ll have to see where the story ends up. And I think it’s time to get out of Afghanistan

I felt that way from just after the start.  I just wanted to go in, exact some punishment for 9/11, and dump them.  The first and worst broken Bush promise was "We won't be nation-building."  Here we are, pushing 20 years later and we're STILL there trying to build a nation that doesn't want to be built.
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Re: Trump denies he was briefed on reported bounties on US troops
« Reply #16 on: June 28, 2020, 07:06:58 pm »
I felt that way from just after the start.  I just wanted to go in, exact some punishment for 9/11, and dump them.  The first and worst broken Bush promise was "We won't be nation-building."  Here we are, pushing 20 years later and we're STILL there trying to build a nation that doesn't want to be built.
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Re: Trump denies he was briefed on reported bounties on US troops
« Reply #17 on: June 28, 2020, 08:08:29 pm »
First Amendment.

No, I am not going to accept neither Trump or the New York Times hiding behind the First Amendment.  The people deserve to know what happened.
There are limits on the First Amendment.

Are There Limits to Freedom of the Press in the U.S.?

Freedom of the press is established in the First Amendment of the United States Constitution, which states that "Congress shall make no law ... abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press." Although the text of the amendment only specifically prohibits infringement by Congress, the Supreme Court has broadened the scope of the First Amendment to protect the freedoms of speech and press from censorship by any government entity, from the federal government down to the local police.

However, the Supreme Court has also recognized specific situations in which the government is allowed to limit the freedom of the press.

There are legal limits, for example, to how much protection a reporter can provide a confidential source. Reporters often rely on confidential sources for inside information that exposes government or corporate corruption. But if the source violate a federal law in leaking the information to the press, the reporter can be subpoenaed and required to name names, as established by the Supreme Court's 5-4 decision in Branzburg v. Hayes (1972) [source: Smolkin].

In 2005, New York Times reporter Judith Miller served 85 days in jail for contempt of court when she refused to name the source who leaked the identity of undercover CIA agent Valerie Plame [source: Miller]. The following year, two reporters for the San Francisco Chronicle also served jail time for refusing to name the source who leaked closed grand jury testimonies from the Barry Bonds perjury case [source: SFGate.com].

Defamation is also prohibited by law in specific cases. Defamation is the injury of an individual's reputation either by written or spoken word.
Defamation by the press is called libel. In the landmark 1964 case New York Times Co. v. Sullivan, the court ruled that the press is not guilty of libel against public figures unless the injured party can prove actual malice — knowingly and recklessly publishing false information — rather than mere reckless reporting. The ruling lifted restrictions on the press that had prevented it from reporting fully on the civil rights movement in the South.
However, the Court ruled in later decisions that the press can still be found guilty of libel in defamation cases involving private citizens and private matters without proof of actual malice [source: Legal Information Institute]…..

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Someone is lying.  The citizens of America have the right to know.  The relatives of fallen soldiers surely have a right to know.  A media cannot do this and I am sure they are aware of legal repercussion's to this magnitude of lying.  The New York Times mentioned sources and a Court can force them to disclose.

We will see.  Because if Trump excuses this without a fight I am going to make a mental determination of where the guilt is.


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Re: Trump denies he was briefed on reported bounties on US troops
« Reply #18 on: June 28, 2020, 08:20:37 pm »
The whole world is having a good laugh at America being taken over from within by communists.  Why would Putin or any of our enemies interrupt the self destruction.

Well, I'm not so sure about that, some realize that if America falls, so does most of the world and then it's a free fall to see who will be left to dominate what's left of the world.

Who has the most to profit though if America falls? The Chinese. I am convinced that they inflicted this virus on the rest of the world in order to become the dominant country with the dominant currency with Biden's and Fauci's assistance for which they will be are have been paid handsomely.
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Re: Trump denies he was briefed on reported bounties on US troops
« Reply #19 on: June 28, 2020, 08:22:07 pm »
When has truth mattered to US socialists?

When has the MSM reported the truth that would favor Trump?
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Re: Trump denies he was briefed on reported bounties on US troops
« Reply #20 on: June 28, 2020, 08:23:46 pm »
Well, I'm not so sure about that, some realize that if America falls, so does most of the world and then it's a free fall to see who will be left to dominate what's left of the world.

Who has the most to profit though if America falls? The Chinese. I am convinced that they inflicted this virus on the rest of the world in order to become the dominant country with the dominant currency with Biden's and Fauci's assistance for which they will be are have been paid handsomely.

Are you sure you are in the right thread.  This isn't about the virus, China or Fauci.  But Trump stood quietly by while Fauci spewed his rhetoric that got the entire nation shut down.
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AG William Barr: "I'm recused from that matter because one of the law firms that represented Epstein long ago was a firm that I subsequently joined for a period of time."

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Re: Trump denies he was briefed on reported bounties on US troops
« Reply #21 on: June 28, 2020, 08:32:02 pm »
We will see.  Because if Trump excuses this without a fight I am going to make a mental determination of where the guilt is.

Does that mean he might lose your vote?   yogi555
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Re: Trump denies he was briefed on reported bounties on US troops
« Reply #22 on: June 28, 2020, 08:33:21 pm »
No, I am not going to accept neither Trump or the New York Times hiding behind the First Amendment.  The people deserve to know what happened.
There are limits on the First Amendment.

Are There Limits to Freedom of the Press in the U.S.?

Freedom of the press is established in the First Amendment of the United States Constitution, which states that "Congress shall make no law ... abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press." Although the text of the amendment only specifically prohibits infringement by Congress, the Supreme Court has broadened the scope of the First Amendment to protect the freedoms of speech and press from censorship by any government entity, from the federal government down to the local police.

However, the Supreme Court has also recognized specific situations in which the government is allowed to limit the freedom of the press.

There are legal limits, for example, to how much protection a reporter can provide a confidential source. Reporters often rely on confidential sources for inside information that exposes government or corporate corruption. But if the source violate a federal law in leaking the information to the press, the reporter can be subpoenaed and required to name names, as established by the Supreme Court's 5-4 decision in Branzburg v. Hayes (1972) [source: Smolkin].

In 2005, New York Times reporter Judith Miller served 85 days in jail for contempt of court when she refused to name the source who leaked the identity of undercover CIA agent Valerie Plame [source: Miller]. The following year, two reporters for the San Francisco Chronicle also served jail time for refusing to name the source who leaked closed grand jury testimonies from the Barry Bonds perjury case [source: SFGate.com].

Defamation is also prohibited by law in specific cases. Defamation is the injury of an individual's reputation either by written or spoken word.
Defamation by the press is called libel. In the landmark 1964 case New York Times Co. v. Sullivan, the court ruled that the press is not guilty of libel against public figures unless the injured party can prove actual malice — knowingly and recklessly publishing false information — rather than mere reckless reporting. The ruling lifted restrictions on the press that had prevented it from reporting fully on the civil rights movement in the South.
However, the Court ruled in later decisions that the press can still be found guilty of libel in defamation cases involving private citizens and private matters without proof of actual malice [source: Legal Information Institute]…..

https://people.howstuffworks.com/freedom-of-the-press.htm

Someone is lying.  The citizens of America have the right to know.  The relatives of fallen soldiers surely have a right to know.  A media cannot do this and I am sure they are aware of legal repercussion's to this magnitude of lying.  The New York Times mentioned sources and a Court can force them to disclose.

We will see.  Because if Trump excuses this without a fight I am going to make a mental determination of where the guilt is.

???  Trump has been fighting the "fake news"/MSM since he took office. 

Of course someone is lying.  Look how long the accusations of Russian collusion went on, only to find at the end of the day, that there was no Trump collusion.

Legal repercussions to this magnitude of lying??  What about the magnitude of lying that has been going on with Russian collusion, impeachment, Burisma, etc...

Do you think just maybe that once again the left is trying to take Trump down?   They will stop at nothing to take him out.  Nothing.

Trump and administration could be absolutely guilty; but the leftists have cried wolf once too often and the globalist are succeeding at toppling our Republic.

As I'm thinking about all of what's been happening, I can't help but notice that Hillary has been very silent through all of this.  Obama has been outspoken, but she has remained very quiet.  Interesting.
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Re: Trump denies he was briefed on reported bounties on US troops
« Reply #23 on: June 28, 2020, 08:45:09 pm »
???  Trump has been fighting the "fake news"/MSM since he took office. 

Of course someone is lying.  Look how long the accusations of Russian collusion went on, only to find at the end of the day, that there was no Trump collusion.

Legal repercussions to this magnitude of lying??  What about the magnitude of lying that has been going on with Russian collusion, impeachment, Burisma, etc...

Do you think just maybe that once again the left is trying to take Trump down?   They will stop at nothing to take him out.  Nothing.

Trump and administration could be absolutely guilty; but the leftists have cried wolf once too often and the globalist are succeeding at toppling our Republic.

As I'm thinking about all of what's been happening, I can't help but notice that Hillary has been very silent through all of this.  Obama has been outspoken, but she has remained very quiet.  Interesting.

Never thought I'd see the day when Anti-Trumpers would complain that Trump is not defending himself enough.  I'm tellin' ya, the world's turned upside down! 
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Re: Trump denies he was briefed on reported bounties on US troops
« Reply #24 on: June 28, 2020, 08:55:10 pm »
Never thought I'd see the day when Anti-Trumpers would complain that Trump is not defending himself enough.  I'm tellin' ya, the world's turned upside down!

Its not like that. This isn't about Trump.  Its about Russia paying Taliban to kill our troops.  If he doesn't defend himself it shouts liar.  This is harmful in every way.  To the presidents image and the upcoming election.  To families of soldiers in Afghanistan or had been.  And most importantly the families of those who lost their lives there.  Trump has never been shy about suing anyone.  If they lied he has an army of lawyers.  Constitutional, personal at his service.  To avoid this would be admitting guilt.

Trump would have to be lacking in reality to believe that people were just going to accept that he says he didn't get any briefing.  Some will because that is how they are.  Without question.  But we aren't all gullible.
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AG William Barr: "I'm recused from that matter because one of the law firms that represented Epstein long ago was a firm that I subsequently joined for a period of time."

Alexander Acosta Labor Secretary resigned under pressure concerning his "sweetheart deal" with Jeffrey Epstein.  He was under consideration for AG after Sessions was removed, but was forced to resign instead.