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Witness in the Mueller investigation and informal Trump adviser gets 10 years in prison in child sex case
CNNJune 27, 2020, 8:15 AM PDT

George Nader, who was a key witness in the Russia investigation and informally advised President Donald Trump's team on foreign policy, was sentenced on Friday to 10 years in prison by a federal judge in Virginia, stemming from his convictions on child sex charges.
The sentence was announced by Judge Leonie Brinkema, closing a disturbing case that exposed Nader's double life as a pedophile who also advised top US and Middle Eastern officials.

Earlier this year, Nader pleaded guilty to possessing child pornography that depicted sexual abuse of minors and admitted bringing an underage boy to the US for sex. These crimes occurred years before the 2016 election, when Nader worked his way into Trump's orbit and served as an informal foreign policy adviser to the transition, attending high-level meetings.

Nader, 61, has already been in jail for more than a year and could apply for "compassionate release" because of the pandemic after he is formally transferred to a federal prison, the judge said.
AG William Barr: "I'm recused from that matter because one of the law firms that represented Epstein long ago was a firm that I subsequently joined for a period of time."

Alexander Acosta Labor Secretary resigned under pressure concerning his "sweetheart deal" with Jeffrey Epstein.  He was under consideration for AG after Sessions was removed, but was forced to resign instead.

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Wow, that's really law and order.  A convicted child rapist can get out after a year because of COVID.  Thanks AG Barr.

And wait a minute.  What is wrong with this?  I thought according to Trump and Q the pedophile ring was the deep state and Hillary Clinton.
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AG William Barr: "I'm recused from that matter because one of the law firms that represented Epstein long ago was a firm that I subsequently joined for a period of time."

Alexander Acosta Labor Secretary resigned under pressure concerning his "sweetheart deal" with Jeffrey Epstein.  He was under consideration for AG after Sessions was removed, but was forced to resign instead.

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Nader was playing both sides, between Trump and Clinton, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Nader_(businessman):

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In August 2016, Nader met with Donald Trump Jr. at Trump Tower offering assistance to his father's presidential campaign. Nader served as an envoy representing Saudi Arabia's Crown Prince and de facto ruler Mohammad bin Salman and Mohammed bin Zayed Al Nahyan, the Crown Prince of the Emirate of Abu Dhabi. The meeting included Erik Prince and Joel Zamel, an Israeli specialist in social media manipulation and owner of intelligence gathering firms including Wikistrat and the Psy-Group, who bragged to have received $2 million from Nader as part of the presidential campaign.

Nader attended a December 2016 meeting in New York between the United Arab Emirates officials and president-elect Donald Trump's associates Jared Kushner, Michael Flynn, and Steve Bannon. In January 2017 he was at a meeting on the Seychelles islands between the Emiratis and Erik Prince, and was present when Prince met with officials from the UAE and Kirill Dmitriev, head of state-run Russian Direct Investment Fund.

Working with Republican fundraiser Elliott Broidy in 2017, Nader funded a conference criticizing Qatar that was hosted by the Foundation for Defense of Democracies. At the time Nader and Broidy were pushing the White House to remove Secretary of State Rex Tillerson, whom the Saudis and Emiratis saw as insufficiently tough on Iran and Qatar.

In January 2018, Nader was served a grand-jury subpoena, and special counsel Robert Mueller's investigators questioned him to elicit if the UAE had tried to influence members of President Trump's campaign. Kathryn Ruemmler, an Obama-era White House counsel, was among the lawyers representing Nader. Nader was granted immunity for information for the investigation.

In December 2019, court documents were unsealed that showed Nader had been charged in federal court with violating campaign finance laws, and falsifying records. The prosecutors alleged that, using banking industry executive Andy Khawaja as a front to obscure the source, Nader sent over $3.5 million USD to organizations supporting Hillary Clinton's 2016 campaign for President, in an attempt to cultivate ties with the candidate. Khawaja donated $1 million USD to the Trump inauguration. The unsealed court documents revealed that Nader also continually reported the current status of his efforts to an unnamed foreign nation.

Probably the best term for his political activities would be Opportunist.
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informally advised President Donald Trump's team

Does not make him a "Trump adviser" like the headline claims (inferring a more direct relationship).
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Does not make him a "Trump adviser" like the headline claims (inferring a more direct relationship).

Child-Sex Trafficker From Trump Tower Meeting Gets 10-Year Sentence

ALEXANDRIA, Va. (CN) — Once an informal adviser to President Donald Trump and later a witness for the Mueller probe, George Nader was sentenced to 10 years in prison Friday for possession of child pornography and transporting a minor into the United States for sex.
The 61-year-old Lebanese-American businessman appeared in U.S. District Court for the Eastern District of Virginia this afternoon, donning a faded prison jumpsuit and a black mask that covered much of his face.

Nader pleaded guilty in March, less than a year after federal prosecutors charged him over graphic images found on multiple devices belonging to Nader, including videos of toddler-age boys engaging in sex acts with young goats and other farm animals.

Prosecutors added the sex-trafficking charge in July, saying Nader had arranged in 2000 to transport a 14-year-old boy from the Czech Republic to his home in Washington, D.C. Holding onto the minor’s passport, Nader had told the teen and his mother that they would go to prison if they tried to report him.

https://www.courthousenews.com/child-sex-trafficker-from-trump-tower-meeting-gets-10-year-sentence/

George Nader, 58, has emerged as a key player in the investigation. An adviser to the Emirati crown prince, Nader is believed to have represented the kingdom's interests in White House meetings, and frequently met with Jared Kushner during the early months of the Trump administration to discuss U.S. policies toward Persian Gulf states.

But before he reemerged as a Middle East power broker, the onetime publisher of a niche foreign policy magazine accrued a record of criminal charges. In 1985, federal authorities charged Nader for importing sexually explicit materials, including magazines and pictures that depicted "nude boys," and other materials showing boys "engaged in a variety of sexual acts," according to federal court records. The case was dropped shortly before trial. And in 2003 he was convicted on 10 counts of sexually abusing underage boys in the Czech Republic, the AP reported Thursday. Nader served one year in prison abroad for those charges.

https://www.newsweek.com/trump-nader-child-porn-charges-prison-mueller-849498

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AG William Barr: "I'm recused from that matter because one of the law firms that represented Epstein long ago was a firm that I subsequently joined for a period of time."

Alexander Acosta Labor Secretary resigned under pressure concerning his "sweetheart deal" with Jeffrey Epstein.  He was under consideration for AG after Sessions was removed, but was forced to resign instead.

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Does not make him a "Trump adviser" like the headline claims (inferring a more direct relationship).
But, but, TRUMP, TRUMP, TRUMP, TRUMP!


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But, but, TRUMP, TRUMP, TRUMP, TRUMP!



Well you can throw a temper tantrum but he was an advisor to Trump.
  He probably won't call the guy "sick" though.  I suspect a pardon is in the works.
AG William Barr: "I'm recused from that matter because one of the law firms that represented Epstein long ago was a firm that I subsequently joined for a period of time."

Alexander Acosta Labor Secretary resigned under pressure concerning his "sweetheart deal" with Jeffrey Epstein.  He was under consideration for AG after Sessions was removed, but was forced to resign instead.

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Well you can throw a temper tantrum but he was an advisor to Trump.
  He probably won't call the guy "sick" though.  I suspect a pardon is in the works.
Let's get into the semantics of this.

Being an advisor to Trump's team does not mean he had any contact directly with the POTUS, nor ever gave the POTUS advice.
If you meet with my son-in-law, you have not met with ME.

A little accuracy would enhance your credibility.
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Well you can throw a temper tantrum but he was an advisor to Trump.
  He probably won't call the guy "sick" though.  I suspect a pardon is in the works.

But that doesn't make your argument stronger Jennifer, no more than employing a Russian manager at one of his hotels means he's colluding with Russians.

But,

The Republic is lost.

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Let's get into the semantics of this.

Being an advisor to Trump's team does not mean he had any contact directly with the POTUS, nor ever gave the POTUS advice.
If you meet with my son-in-law, you have not met with ME.

A little accuracy would enhance your credibility.

Keep shoveling the horse manure.  Kushner runs the country.  Trump tweets.  You can't just separate the two.  They are interwoven together in their agenda.  There isn't one single major presidential priority that hasn't had Kushner's name on it.    And the BS all started in the Trump tower with Kushner and that pedophile and his connections to Russia and Saudi Arabia.

Kushner is head over almost everything Trump.  To name a few Israel Peace, First Act, COVID  Heavily involved with foreign policy in Saudi Arabia. 

There is absolutely no visible light between the two.  They are one in the same.  Its a family business.

Jared Kushner in Iraq for update on fight against ISIS
Trump has charged Kushner with making peace between Israel and the Palestinians, and has involved him in other foreign policy issues.

https://www.jpost.com/Middle-East/Jared-Kushner-in-Iraq-for-update-on-fight-against-ISIS-486023#:~:text=Trump%20has%20charged%20Kushner%20with%20making%20peace%20between,government%2C%20using%20ideas%20borrowed%20from%20the%20business%20world.
AG William Barr: "I'm recused from that matter because one of the law firms that represented Epstein long ago was a firm that I subsequently joined for a period of time."

Alexander Acosta Labor Secretary resigned under pressure concerning his "sweetheart deal" with Jeffrey Epstein.  He was under consideration for AG after Sessions was removed, but was forced to resign instead.

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But that doesn't make your argument stronger Jennifer, no more than employing a Russian manager at one of his hotels means he's colluding with Russians.

But,



Well Sean its getting harder and harder for you to defend the indefensible.  Fact is that a certain percentage of the Trump fan club waits for every message from Q about the deep state and the Clinton pedophile ring.  Its really hard when it turns out that Trump is smack dab in the center of the ring.,
AG William Barr: "I'm recused from that matter because one of the law firms that represented Epstein long ago was a firm that I subsequently joined for a period of time."

Alexander Acosta Labor Secretary resigned under pressure concerning his "sweetheart deal" with Jeffrey Epstein.  He was under consideration for AG after Sessions was removed, but was forced to resign instead.

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Keep shoveling the horse manure.  Kushner runs the country.  Trump tweets.  You can't just separate the two.  They are interwoven together in their agenda.  There isn't one single major presidential priority that hasn't had Kushner's name on it.    And the BS all started in the Trump tower with Kushner and that pedophile and his connections to Russia and Saudi Arabia.

Kushner is head over almost everything Trump.  To name a few Israel Peace, First Act, COVID  Heavily involved with foreign policy in Saudi Arabia. 

There is absolutely no visible light between the two.  They are one in the same.  Its a family business.

Jared Kushner in Iraq for update on fight against ISIS
Trump has charged Kushner with making peace between Israel and the Palestinians, and has involved him in other foreign policy issues.

https://www.jpost.com/Middle-East/Jared-Kushner-in-Iraq-for-update-on-fight-against-ISIS-486023#:~:text=Trump%20has%20charged%20Kushner%20with%20making%20peace%20between,government%2C%20using%20ideas%20borrowed%20from%20the%20business%20world.
Gee maybe they are clones...

Oh, please.
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Gee maybe they are clones...

Oh, please.

Not clones, but Trump doesn't do anything without him.

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Rex Tillerson to Congress: Jared Kushner Went Behind My Back on Foreign Policy


Former Secretary of State Rex Tillerson reportedly told Congress last month that Jared Kushner, President Trump’s son-in-law and special adviser, repeatedly went behind top cabinet officials’ backs on foreign policy.

Tillerson told the House Foreign Affairs Committee last month that he was left “angry” after Kushner kept him in the dark while conducting his own meetings with foreign officials, according to a transcript of Tillerson’s seven-hour testimony published by the Washington Post.

Tillerson told the committee that one of the “challenges” that “everyone had” in the Trump administration was “to learn to deal with … the unique situation with the president’s son-in-law [Kushner] and daughter [Ivanka] being part of the White House advisory team.”

https://truthout.org/articles/rex-tillerson-to-congress-jared-kushner-went-behind-my-back-on-foreign-policy/
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AG William Barr: "I'm recused from that matter because one of the law firms that represented Epstein long ago was a firm that I subsequently joined for a period of time."

Alexander Acosta Labor Secretary resigned under pressure concerning his "sweetheart deal" with Jeffrey Epstein.  He was under consideration for AG after Sessions was removed, but was forced to resign instead.

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Well you can throw a temper tantrum but he was an advisor to Trump.
  He probably won't call the guy "sick" though.  I suspect a pardon is in the works.
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But that doesn't make your argument stronger Jennifer, no more than employing a Russian manager at one of his hotels means he's colluding with Russians.

But,


Silly Never Trumper behind the curve as usual,  she doesn't get it, the tantrum didn't refer to me

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You don't have to post it, just do it.  I certainly will not be offended.
AG William Barr: "I'm recused from that matter because one of the law firms that represented Epstein long ago was a firm that I subsequently joined for a period of time."

Alexander Acosta Labor Secretary resigned under pressure concerning his "sweetheart deal" with Jeffrey Epstein.  He was under consideration for AG after Sessions was removed, but was forced to resign instead.

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Well Sean its getting harder and harder for you to defend the indefensible.  Fact is that a certain percentage of the Trump fan club waits for every message from Q about the deep state and the Clinton pedophile ring.  Its really hard when it turns out that Trump is smack dab in the center of the ring.,
The Deep State came along well before Q.  And hashtags are from Twitter.

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The Deep State came along well before Q.  And hashtags are from Twitter.

OK, but you missed the point.  The point is that Trump associates are part of the deep state pedophile ring.
AG William Barr: "I'm recused from that matter because one of the law firms that represented Epstein long ago was a firm that I subsequently joined for a period of time."

Alexander Acosta Labor Secretary resigned under pressure concerning his "sweetheart deal" with Jeffrey Epstein.  He was under consideration for AG after Sessions was removed, but was forced to resign instead.

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OK, but you missed the point.  The point is that Trump associates are part of the deep state pedophile ring.
This guy was an informal advisor to the team, not as you have scooted them elbow to elbow, a "Trump associate".

You keep trying to close that distance and make them shower buddies. Why?
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This guy was an informal advisor to the team, not as you have scooted them elbow to elbow, a "Trump associate".

You keep trying to close that distance and make them shower buddies. Why?

George Nader, the United Arab Emirates lobbyist who set up a much-scrutinized meeting between a Trump administration emissary and an associate of Vladimir Putin’s in early 2017—and who reportedly appeared at the White House “frequently” early in Trump’s tenure to discuss Middle East policy—has been arrested and indicted on previously sealed charges of possessing child pornography, the Justice Department says. An affidavit filed by an FBI agent in April 2018, when Nader was initially charged, says 12 videos “that appear to be visual depictions of minors engaged in sexually explicit conduct” were discovered on an iPhone seized when he was stopped at Dulles airport in Virginia on Jan. 17, 2018 during an unnamed and “unrelated” investigation; previous reporting indicates that Nader was questioned on that day by investigators working for special counsel Robert Mueller. Nader subsequently became a cooperating witness in Mueller’s investigation. The DOJ says he was arrested Monday at John F. Kennedy Airport in New York City, whereupon the documents related to his case were unsealed....

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2019/06/george-nader-child-pornography-indictment-trump-russia.html

I didn't say Trump had sex with him.

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AG William Barr: "I'm recused from that matter because one of the law firms that represented Epstein long ago was a firm that I subsequently joined for a period of time."

Alexander Acosta Labor Secretary resigned under pressure concerning his "sweetheart deal" with Jeffrey Epstein.  He was under consideration for AG after Sessions was removed, but was forced to resign instead.

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This guy was an informal advisor to the team, not as you have scooted them elbow to elbow, a "Trump associate".

You keep trying to close that distance and make them shower buddies. Why?

Hey, its a living.

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George Nader, the United Arab Emirates lobbyist who set up a much-scrutinized meeting between a Trump administration emissary and an associate of Vladimir Putin’s in early 2017—and who reportedly appeared at the White House “frequently” early in Trump’s tenure to discuss Middle East policy—has been arrested and indicted on previously sealed charges of possessing child pornography, the Justice Department says. An affidavit filed by an FBI agent in April 2018, when Nader was initially charged, says 12 videos “that appear to be visual depictions of minors engaged in sexually explicit conduct” were discovered on an iPhone seized when he was stopped at Dulles airport in Virginia on Jan. 17, 2018 during an unnamed and “unrelated” investigation; previous reporting indicates that Nader was questioned on that day by investigators working for special counsel Robert Mueller. Nader subsequently became a cooperating witness in Mueller’s investigation. The DOJ says he was arrested Monday at John F. Kennedy Airport in New York City, whereupon the documents related to his case were unsealed.
Okay, and this still does not mean Trump was aware of the guy's proclivities. I know a lot of people, but have no idea what they do in their 'spare' time.

Who sealed the charges? Someone at the FBI? Now, why would they do that? An 'ace in the hole'? Or were they sealed to get his cooperation in Mueller's witch hunt? Now that that failed, they can crack the seal and get the guy?

Why did they arrest him and then unseal the documents? Seems if the charges had been sealed, they would have had to unseal them in order to arrest him? Ya think?

I'm not fond of the tactic of smear by association. This reeks of a scheme that went sour, and then getting the guy the FBI (under Mueller's guidance) made the deal with. Want to bet this guy does an Epstein?

Not that I care, I'm no fan of child porn types.

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I didn't say Trump had sex with him.

Neither did I.
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This guy was an informal advisor to the team, not as you have scooted them elbow to elbow, a "Trump associate".

You keep trying to close that distance and make them shower buddies. Why?

Its OK he was advised by Manafort too.  That guy was a sleazy lobbyist with foreign government ties too.  I can understand why Trump would want to distance himself from these deep state losers. 

Yeah, they have ties to the Clintons also.  Just like Jeffrey Epstein was a friend of Trumps and a friend of the Clintons too.  Friend of Trumps attorney Dershowitz.  Manafort didn't care about political parties either.  He didn't care if it was Democratic deep state, or Republican deep state.  Is there a difference?  They will all get in bed with perverts and criminals to get what they want.  Even ones with foreign government ties.

https://nypost.com/2019/12/05/george-nader-key-mueller-witness-charged-with-funneling-money-to-clinton-campaign/

Well he might pardon Manafort so maybe he will pardon Nader too.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-manafort-pardon-not-off-the-table
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AG William Barr: "I'm recused from that matter because one of the law firms that represented Epstein long ago was a firm that I subsequently joined for a period of time."

Alexander Acosta Labor Secretary resigned under pressure concerning his "sweetheart deal" with Jeffrey Epstein.  He was under consideration for AG after Sessions was removed, but was forced to resign instead.

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Its OK he was advised by Manafort too.  That guy was a sleazy lobbyist with foreign government ties too.  I can understand why Trump would want to distance himself from these deep state losers. 

Yeah, they have ties to the Clintons also.  Just like Jeffrey Epstein was a friend of Trumps and a friend of the Clintons too.  Friend of Trumps attorney Dershowitz.  Manafort didn't care about political parties either.  He didn't care if it was Democratic deep state, or Republican deep state.  Is there a difference?  They will all get in bed with perverts and criminals to get what they want.  Even ones with foreign government ties.

https://nypost.com/2019/12/05/george-nader-key-mueller-witness-charged-with-funneling-money-to-clinton-campaign/

Well he might pardon Manafort so maybe he will pardon Nader too.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-manafort-pardon-not-off-the-table
He might Pardon Chuck Manson, too, but I doubt it.
 
Let's put it this way, at the nine figure level doing business in NY and NYC, your social circles are limited, and if you offend too many you are out of business. Sure he met some nasty folks. Scum, like cream, rises to the top.
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