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Russian GRU unit paid bounties to Afghan militants for killing U.S. troops
John SextonPosted at 6:41 pm on June 26, 2020

A Russian GRU unit connected to assassinations around the world, including the poisoning of Sergei Skripal and his daughter in the UK, also offered bounties to Afghan militants for killing U.S. troops. The NY Times reports that the information was gathered from captured Afghan soldiers and was presented to the White House a few months ago:

Islamist militants, or armed criminal elements closely associated with them, are believed to have collected some bounty money, the officials said. Twenty Americans were killed in combat in Afghanistan in 2019, but it was not clear which killings were under suspicion.

The intelligence finding was briefed to President Trump, and the White House’s National Security Council discussed the problem at an interagency meeting in late March, the officials said. Officials developed a menu of potential options — starting with making a diplomatic complaint to Moscow and a demand that it stop, along with an escalating series of sanctions and other possible responses, but the White House has yet to authorize any step, the officials said…

https://hotair.com/archives/john-s-2/2020/06/26/russia-gru-unit-paid-bounties-afghan-militants-killing-u-s-troops/

Trump Has Reportedly Known for Months That Russia Offered the Taliban Bounties to Kill US Soldiers in Afghanistan

By Reed RichardsonJun 26th, 2020, 5:49 pm

https://www.mediaite.com/news/trump-has-reportedly-known-for-months-that-russia-offered-the-taliban-bounties-to-kill-us-soldiers-in-afghanistan/
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      Wait a second.
      This article is alleging that Trump has known about Putin paying to slaughter American soldiers since March and that there has been no response from the Trump administration.

      Not only that, since that time Trump has been vociferously advocating to allow Russia back into the G7. Even sent them respirators.
     
      This story is being run by the WSJ, the NYT, Fox etc. I'm expecting the Trump Administration to vehemently, "very strongly and powerfully" deny this traitorous libel and I wonder what the hell is taking so long to do so. Where's the f---ing tweet about this?

   

 
       
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      Wait a second.
      This article is alleging that Trump has known about Putin paying to slaughter American soldiers since March and that there has been no response from the Trump administration.

      Not only that, since that time Trump has been vociferously advocating to allow Russia back into the G7. Even sent them respirators.
     
      This story is being run by the WSJ, the NYT, Fox etc. I'm expecting the Trump Administration to vehemently, "very strongly and powerfully" deny this traitorous libel and I wonder what the hell is taking so long to do so. Where's the f---ing tweet about this?


Possibilities:

1) he's waiting for Putin to tell him what to say
2) he's waiting for Hannity or Ingrahm to tell him what to say
3) he's waiting for Javanka to tell him what to say
4) he won't say anything about it but will instead remind us how his not playing golf in NJ this weekend is keeping Merica safe
5) he will eventually respond by calling it "FAKE NEWS!"
6) all of the above

 
     
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Well, the origin of this piece is the New York Times which in Trump's world, automatically makes it fake news. 

But whether this is for real or not, or whether Trump knew about it or not -- some people here think Putin and Russia are our friends.  Russia may no longer be communist, but it is not our friend.  I believe Russia still has ambitions of destroying America and becoming the one and only superpower.  It might be the origin or one of the origins of so much communist teaching in our schools and the rise of various anti-American groups that are trying to bring this country down. 

And Trump cozying up to Putin, Kim in North Korea and others has always made me uneasy.  Trump supporters tell me all this fawning is a negotiation tactic.  I'm not so sure about that. 
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 Well. Trump just tweeted about his amazing, boffo television ratings from his Hannity interview!

  **nononono*  :yowsa: 
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Well. Trump just tweeted about his amazing, boffo television ratings from his Hannity interview!

  **nononono*  :yowsa:

I forgot one:

7) my TV ratings are very good. 
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I forgot one:

7) my TV ratings are very good.

Need televised hearings to get to the bottom of this. They would bring tremendous ratings.

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Wow, @FeelNoPain, you know nothing has been said to Russia? You must be a Trump Administration uber-insider, :sarc: . But what do you propose? Public words that accomplish little or nothing? Staring a war with Russia? Hurt the Russian economy by becoming a net exporter of oil and gas? Oh wait, Trump did that. Hurt the Russian economy by NASA no longer having to use Soyuz to launch astronauts into space? Oh wait, Trump did that.
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Wow, @FeelNoPain, you know nothing has been said to Russia? You must be a Trump Administration uber-insider, :sarc: . But what do you propose? Public words that accomplish little or nothing? Staring a war with Russia? Hurt the Russian economy by becoming a net exporter of oil and gas? Oh wait, Trump did that. Hurt the Russian economy by NASA no longer having to use Soyuz to launch astronauts into space? Oh wait, Trump did that.

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I was wondering where all the site's deep thinkers had gone.

How you spellin that?  (deep stinkers)

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Well, the origin of this piece is the New York Times which in Trump's world, automatically makes it fake news. 

But whether this is for real or not, or whether Trump knew about it or not -- some people here think Putin and Russia are our friends.  Russia may no longer be communist, but it is not our friend.  I believe Russia still has ambitions of destroying America and becoming the one and only superpower.  It might be the origin or one of the origins of so much communist teaching in our schools and the rise of various anti-American groups that are trying to bring this country down. 

And Trump cozying up to Putin, Kim in North Korea and others has always made me uneasy.  Trump supporters tell me all this fawning is a negotiation tactic.  I'm not so sure about that.


This is being reported in Military News now too.  It is widely being reported and British Coalition troops also were targeted.  I know Guardian is reporting also.  This all happened when Trump was making peace deals with the Taliban.

I don't think that New York Times could get away with this kind of Fake News.  Just wouldn't believe it.  And if this is true Trump deserves whatever is coming.  He will not be able to cover this one up.  And believe me I take no pleasure in reporting this.  It makes me want to puke.  His entire foreign policy has been against good and supporting evil.  Same with Syria where he said there was nothing there but sand and death.

This will be worse than Benghazi.  If true Trump should submit resignation of office.  We are talking about American lives.  Our own troops and he apparently has tried to cover it up.

https://americanmilitarynews.com/2020/06/report-russia-paid-taliban-bounties-for-killing-us-troops/
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Wow, @FeelNoPain, you know nothing has been said to Russia? You must be a Trump Administration uber-insider, :sarc: . But what do you propose? Public words that accomplish little or nothing? Staring a war with Russia? Hurt the Russian economy by becoming a net exporter of oil and gas? Oh wait, Trump did that. Hurt the Russian economy by NASA no longer having to use Soyuz to launch astronauts into space? Oh wait, Trump did that.

    Yeah, Trump has always been so circumspect and judicious about using "Public words that accomplish little or nothing." Like braying, "LAW & ORDER!" or "Don't make me come in there, Seattle!" and the like.

    I saw enough of how Trump deals with Putin in Helsinki. Shameful, Vile and Embarrassing.

    Soyuz? @PeteS in CA Employing Soyuz as some counterweight to how Trump laid down with his legs akimbo and let Putin violate him in Helsinki or how he has not come out with a STRONG denial of allowing Russia to slaughter American soldiers with impunity is just silly. I'm tired of giving him the benefit of the doubt when it comes to his meekness and affection for Putin, and I'm betting that most Americans are, too. I have seen enough Putin ass-kissing. Eff the nuance.

   Similarly, I appreciate the meticulous research you put together for your coronavirus timeline--I really do. However, you and I both know that means less than nothing this autumn when the Dems play ad after ad of Trump dismissing the Coronavirus like he did on TV in February. In the same vein, I don't want to hear about Soyuz when I have been told that 3 months have passed since Trump was informed about Putin slaughtering our soldiers and the only visible response has been to invite Russia into the G-7 and send them PPE.

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I was wondering where all the site's deep thinkers had gone.

Agreed. I miss edpc and onceler, too!

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PRESS RELEASEJeff Van Drew Consistently Voted Against Trump on Immigration While in Congress

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All news are now reporting

https://www.bing.com/search?q=military%20news%20Russia%20pays%20taliban%20to%20kill%20us%20soldiers&qs=ds&form=QBRE

         Russia has denied it. I'm sure that's good enough. Maybe POTUS will give us another Helsinki classic: "The sentence should have been, 'I don't see any reason why it wouldn't be Russia.' Sort of a double negative."
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Agreed. I miss edpc and onceler, too!

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U.S. Army Gen. John Nicholson, the former top commander in Afghanistan, previously accused Russians of supplying weapons to Taliban, saying in 2018, "Clearly, they are acting to undermine our interests." The Russian embassy in Kabul responded by calling it "absolutely baseless."

https://www.forbes.com/sites/mattperez/2020/06/26/report-russia-offered-bounties-for-taliban-militants-to-kill-us-soldiers-and-other-allies/#16fb45de7330

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Well, I couldn't find the clip on FOX news, but this media posted FOX making light of the story.  You can see the clip here:

https://www.mediaite.com/category/opinion/

But they also ran the story here:

MILITARYPublished 12 hours ago
Russian spy unit paid Taliban to attack US troops, US intelligence says

It couldn’t be determined whether Russian bounties paid to Taliban fighters resulted in any American combat deaths in Afghanistan.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/russian-spy-unit-paid-taliban-to-attack-us-troops-us-intelligence-says

And here on FOX News in May 2017 they acknowledge Russia military support for Taliban

AfghanistanPublished May 17, 2017Last Update May 24, 2017

Evidence of Russian military support for Afghan Taliban is growing

https://www.foxnews.com/world/evidence-of-russian-military-support-for-afghan-taliban-is-growing

The clip is "and get this".  Where they highlighted Russia and the Taliban denying it.  We should trust Russia and the Taliban?  It is surprising its been nearly 24 hours since the story broke and nothing from the White House.


I can't find the clip now on that link but it was there.
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I guess Kellyanne can't control her husband.

New Ad Hits Trump on Putin’s Bounty on U.S. Troops

June 27, 2020 at 8:49 pm EDT By Taegan Goddard 112 Comments
The Lincoln Project released a tough new ad:

“In the last year, flag-draped coffins have returned from Afghanistan. Now we know Vladimir Putin pays a bounty for the murder of American soldiers.”
“Donald Trump knows too — and does nothing. Putin pays the Taliban cash to slaughter our men and women in uniform and Trump is silent.”
Earlier for members: Trump Apparently Knew Russia Was Killing Americans

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I guess Kellyanne can't control her husband.
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Is she supposed to?  That marriage is a bit odd to me.  I should think they would be divorced by now.

I was reading something today that questioned how effective the Lincoln Project ads will be to woo away Trump voters.  I don't know the answer to that, but I'm sure those ads give Trump fits. 
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Is she supposed to?  That marriage is a bit odd to me.  I should think they would be divorced by now.

I was reading something today that questioned how effective the Lincoln Project ads will be to woo away Trump voters.  I don't know the answer to that, but I'm sure those ads give Trump fits.

It is odd isn't it?  I'm split on this one.  I don't like the murder of our troops being used for politics.  But if this is true then people need to know about it.  I would think it would be highly effective.  Horribly hurtful also.
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Well if this is true (I state if true), then Trump is in deep s**t.
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This is beingf reported in Military News now too.  It is widely being reported and British Coalition troops also were targeted.  I know Guardian is reporting also.  This all happened when Trump was making peace deals with the Taliban.

I don't think that New York Times could get away with this kind of Fake News.  Just wouldn't believe it.  And if this is true Trump deserves whatever is coming.  He will not be able to cover this one up.  And believe me I take no pleasure in reporting this.  It makes me want to puke.  His entire foreign policy has been against good and supporting evil.  Same with Syria where he said there was nothing there but sand and death.

This will be worse than Benghazi.  If true Trump should submit resignation of office.  We are talking about American lives.  Our own troops and he apparently has tried to cover it up.

https://americanmilitarynews.com/2020/06/report-russia-paid-taliban-bounties-for-killing-us-troops/

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Wouldn't surprise me (Russia paying)... face it, we armed Afghanistan against them and laughed about it later. They have memories too.
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