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Re: Facebook takes down Trump campaign ads with Nazi symbol
« Reply #75 on: June 20, 2020, 10:46:38 pm »
I in no way support Antifa

Well of course you don't.

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but Trump should clarify why he used the symbol.  It is not a symbol of the Antifa.  He didn't just put a huge inverted triangle because he likes shapes.

I don't care about the Tump angle, but yes, a red down-arrow is a symbol of Antifa, often paired with a black up-arrow.. Often stylized as flags. As I said, I noticed from the 'as above so below' angle. SO YES, I have seen that much with my own eyes.

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Re: Facebook takes down Trump campaign ads with Nazi symbol
« Reply #76 on: June 20, 2020, 10:47:15 pm »
It amazes me how they're just doing it all over again.. I mean dusting off the exact same play books, to include barely changed symbology, and nobody knows it.

Since public schools have sworn off teaching actual history it has been up to Hollywood to educate Americans on what the Nazis were. As a consequence all we know about them amounts to an amalgamation of Hogans Heroes, Schindlers List and Inglourious Basterds.

It wouldn't do to have the similarities between the early National Socialists, Communists and American left too well vetted.

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Re: Facebook takes down Trump campaign ads with Nazi symbol
« Reply #77 on: June 20, 2020, 10:51:27 pm »
One of the things I DO see in Antifa symbology is a red triangle pointing down, next to a black triangle pointing up... That's 'as above, so below' symbology with occult origins, which is why I noticed it.

Doesn't make it so, but I can see where people could put two and two together...

I haven't found that.  Could you give a link?

This is what Snopes says

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The ADL disputed that the red triangle was commonly used as an antifa symbol.
It's certainly not a commonly used antifa symbol (a time-restricted google search - for before the Trump scandal - returns almost no results.) and thus not an obvious choice for an attack ad on antifa - like the red and black flag or three arrows would be.

There are some occasional antifacist groups (when using a broad definition of antifa) which do use the symbol, such as the Union of Persecutees of the Nazi Regime*, but it is always a reference to the Nazi symbol which was used to mark political prisoners and because of that is a poor choice for usage in an attack ad.

I did see an Antifa symbol with an A in the middle of a circle.  The top of the A was red and the bottom was black.  It was a red and black flag.  But the A wasn't inverted so the Triangle wasn't either.
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Re: Facebook takes down Trump campaign ads with Nazi symbol
« Reply #78 on: June 20, 2020, 10:52:03 pm »
Since public schools have sworn off teaching actual history it has been up to Hollywood to educate Americans on what the Nazis were. As a consequence all we know about them amounts to an amalgamation of Hogans Heroes, Schindlers List and Inglourious Basterds.

It wouldn't do to have the similarities between the early National Socialists, Communists and American left too well vetted.

That's very probably right... But informs the old adage: "Them that don't know history are doomed to repeat it."

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Re: Facebook takes down Trump campaign ads with Nazi symbol
« Reply #79 on: June 20, 2020, 10:56:11 pm »
I haven't found that.  Could you give a link?

This is what Snopes says

snopes states:
The ADL disputed that the red triangle was commonly used as an antifa symbol.
It's certainly not a commonly used antifa symbol (a time-restricted google search - for before the Trump scandal - returns almost no results.) and thus not an obvious choice for an attack ad on antifa - like the red and black flag or three arrows would be.

There are some occasional antifacist groups (when using a broad definition of antifa) which do use the symbol, such as the Union of Persecutees of the Nazi Regime*, but it is always a reference to the Nazi symbol which was used to mark political prisoners and because of that is a poor choice for usage in an attack ad.

I did see an Antifa symbol with an A in the middle of a circle.  The top of the A was red and the bottom was black.  It was a red and black flag.  But the A wasn't inverted so the Triangle wasn't either.

Snopes?  Really?  I went round and round with them about 10 years ago.  Long story short at that time I discovered that they were a husband and wife team.  The only research they did was via the internet ... they didn't make trips to actually investigate anything, nor even make phone calls.  They are about as unreliable and biased as you can get.
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Re: Facebook takes down Trump campaign ads with Nazi symbol
« Reply #81 on: June 20, 2020, 10:57:33 pm »
Snopes?  Really?  I went round and round with them about 10 years ago.  Long story short at that time I discovered that they were a husband and wife team.  The only research they did was via the internet ... they didn't make trips to actually investigate anything, nor even make phone calls.  They are about as unreliable and biased as you can get.

Husband and wife and as committed to progressivism to the exclusion of the truth as a husband and wife can be.

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Re: Facebook takes down Trump campaign ads with Nazi symbol
« Reply #82 on: June 20, 2020, 11:07:30 pm »
Husband and wife and as committed to progressivism to the exclusion of the truth as a husband and wife can be.

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Re: Facebook takes down Trump campaign ads with Nazi symbol
« Reply #83 on: June 20, 2020, 11:10:03 pm »
Snopes?  Really?  I went round and round with them about 10 years ago.  Long story short at that time I discovered that they were a husband and wife team.  The only research they did was via the internet ... they didn't make trips to actually investigate anything, nor even make phone calls.  They are about as unreliable and biased as you can get.

Snopes!  LOLOLOL!!!  LMFAO!

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Re: Facebook takes down Trump campaign ads with Nazi symbol
« Reply #84 on: June 20, 2020, 11:12:24 pm »
Nope... Seen it in passing with passing interest.

https://images.search.yahoo.com/search/images;_ylt=Awr9ImTFk.5e0CIA2g5XNyoA;_ylu=X3oDMTB0NjZjZzZhBGNvbG8DZ3ExBHBvcwMxBHZ0aWQDBHNlYwNwaXZz?p=antifa+symbols&fr2=piv-web&fr=opensearch#id=4&iurl=https%3A%2F%2Fi.stack.imgur.com%2FI6P4Q.jpg&action=close

It doesn't matter, if Trump can be painted as a Nazi/Illuminati/CFR/Trilateralist/Bilderburger/Pastafarian, it's all good.  Somebody here has gone completely around the bend, and it ain't you.
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Re: Facebook takes down Trump campaign ads with Nazi symbol
« Reply #85 on: June 20, 2020, 11:55:15 pm »
It doesn't matter, if Trump can be painted as a Nazi/Illuminati/CFR/Trilateralist/Bilderburger/Pastafarian, it's all good.  Somebody here has gone completely around the bend, and it ain't you.

Funny that... Because I agree with Chosen far more than I don't, sooo...  :shrug: :whistle:

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Re: Facebook takes down Trump campaign ads with Nazi symbol
« Reply #86 on: June 21, 2020, 12:17:54 am »
Funny that... Because I agree with Chosen far more than I don't, sooo...  :shrug: :whistle:

I did too...until I had to move this thread to Alternate Realities.  The conspiracy theories are where I get off the bus.
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Re: Facebook takes down Trump campaign ads with Nazi symbol
« Reply #87 on: June 21, 2020, 12:28:37 am »
It doesn't matter, if Trump can be painted as a Nazi/Illuminati/CFR/Trilateralist/Bilderburger/Pastafarian, it's all good.  Somebody here has gone completely around the bend, and it ain't you.

Doesn't really matter anyway because Trump lives on this kind of discussion.  He loves it.  You should appreciate me more because Trump posts crap like this so someone like me will come along and bring attention to him.
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Re: Facebook takes down Trump campaign ads with Nazi symbol
« Reply #88 on: June 21, 2020, 12:30:37 am »
Doesn't really matter anyway because Trump lives on this kind of discussion.  He loves it.  You should appreciate me more because Trump posts crap like this so someone like me will come along and bring attention to him.

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that must be why I moved the thread.
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AG William Barr: "I'm recused from that matter because one of the law firms that represented Epstein long ago was a firm that I subsequently joined for a period of time."

Alexander Acosta Labor Secretary resigned under pressure concerning his "sweetheart deal" with Jeffrey Epstein.  He was under consideration for AG after Sessions was removed, but was forced to resign instead.

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Re: Facebook takes down Trump campaign ads with Nazi symbol
« Reply #90 on: June 21, 2020, 12:31:58 am »
:happyhappy:

that must be why I moved the thread.

Yeah, why did you?
AG William Barr: "I'm recused from that matter because one of the law firms that represented Epstein long ago was a firm that I subsequently joined for a period of time."

Alexander Acosta Labor Secretary resigned under pressure concerning his "sweetheart deal" with Jeffrey Epstein.  He was under consideration for AG after Sessions was removed, but was forced to resign instead.

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Re: Facebook takes down Trump campaign ads with Nazi symbol
« Reply #92 on: June 21, 2020, 12:45:21 am »
I saw something like that in your link.  A red up arrow and a black down arrow.   It said anarcho Communism.

... which lends itself to the symbology @Smokin Joe quoted upthread from the Nazis.

And Antifa likely IS anarcho-communist, albeit a self-canceling term... Creating chaos and destruction so that the phoenix of pure communism can rise from the ashes... That is so occult and satanic that it may as well be Luciferian doctrine.

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Re: Facebook takes down Trump campaign ads with Nazi symbol
« Reply #93 on: June 21, 2020, 01:04:53 am »
... which lends itself to the symbology @Smokin Joe quoted upthread from the Nazis.

And Antifa likely IS anarcho-communist, albeit a self-canceling term... Creating chaos and destruction so that the phoenix of pure communism can rise from the ashes... That is so occult and satanic that it may as well be Luciferian doctrine.

No doubt they are.  I am sure they are anarchist and communist, but still that wasn't the symbol posted by Trump.  I just wanted someone to say what the purpose of putting that upside down triangle there.  No explanation written.  Nothing indicating it was Antifa, and even if it had been why would they advertise for Antifa?

I would have never assumed that the triangle was something saying Antifa.  It wasn't needed for a petition.  Perhaps I think differently than many, but it doesn't make any sense at all.  And the emoty and Antifa cover up is like saying my dog ate my homework.  Its a child like coverup.
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AG William Barr: "I'm recused from that matter because one of the law firms that represented Epstein long ago was a firm that I subsequently joined for a period of time."

Alexander Acosta Labor Secretary resigned under pressure concerning his "sweetheart deal" with Jeffrey Epstein.  He was under consideration for AG after Sessions was removed, but was forced to resign instead.

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Re: Facebook takes down Trump campaign ads with Nazi symbol
« Reply #94 on: June 21, 2020, 01:10:59 am »
No doubt they are.  I am sure they are anarchist and communist, but still that wasn't the symbol posted by Trump.  I just wanted someone to say what the purpose of putting that upside down triangle there.  No explanation written.  Nothing indicating it was Antifa, and even if it had been why would they advertise for Antifa?

I would have never assumed that the triangle was something saying Antifa.  It wasn't needed for a petition.  Perhaps I think differently than many, but it doesn't make any sense at all.  And the emoty and Antifa cover up is like saying my dog ate my homework.  Its a child like coverup.

Do you have any idea that your raising such questions only benefits Trump?  Just like O'Bastard made book for years on the Birther conspiracies (that were true).  O'Bastard was strengthened by the Birthers, not weakened.  So will be Trump.

Just watch.
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Re: Facebook takes down Trump campaign ads with Nazi symbol
« Reply #95 on: June 21, 2020, 01:47:25 am »
Do you have any idea that your raising such questions only benefits Trump?  Just like O'Bastard made book for years on the Birther conspiracies (that were true).  O'Bastard was strengthened by the Birthers, not weakened.  So will be Trump.

Just watch.

Isn't that what I said earlier?  But you moved it here.  Jokes on you.

Trump is evil and every evil thing he does benefits him.
AG William Barr: "I'm recused from that matter because one of the law firms that represented Epstein long ago was a firm that I subsequently joined for a period of time."

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Re: Facebook takes down Trump campaign ads with Nazi symbol
« Reply #96 on: June 21, 2020, 02:07:30 am »
Isn't that what I said earlier?  But you moved it here.  Jokes on you.

Not a problem.  It's all good.   :hattip:
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Re: Facebook takes down Trump campaign ads with Nazi symbol
« Reply #97 on: June 21, 2020, 02:29:04 am »
Not a problem.  It's all good.   :hattip:

No problem with me either.  I guess you put me in my place.  In the alternate reality.  I live there, and wouldn't want it any other way.
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Alexander Acosta Labor Secretary resigned under pressure concerning his "sweetheart deal" with Jeffrey Epstein.  He was under consideration for AG after Sessions was removed, but was forced to resign instead.

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Re: Facebook takes down Trump campaign ads with Nazi symbol
« Reply #98 on: June 21, 2020, 02:59:54 am »
No problem with me either.  I guess you put me in my place.  In the alternate reality.  I live there, and wouldn't want it any other way.

It's a good Category.  @Quix is the Moderator, and one of my best friends!
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Re: Facebook takes down Trump campaign ads with Nazi symbol
« Reply #99 on: June 21, 2020, 03:57:03 am »
I went looking on YouTube and in the first BLM/Antifa protest I saw there is a flag with two red triangles painted on a flag they are holding in the background of this interview back in Dec 2019


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