More good news: DACA has been upheld

[Bigun]

Roberts spelled "penalty" T A X and upheld one of the most disastrous crap bits of legislation, ever, costing millions of Americans any health insurancethey had.

Recently he rewrote "sex" (as used, the obvious original intent of the legislation being a "binary" biological determination of male versus female) into an act, a preference, an "identification", a practice, in order to encompass the right of perverts and sick people to a job anywhere.

Someone has some career ending dirt on him, and something that could possible put him in prison, and they are pulling his strings. Either that or anything conservative he ever did was just an act.

 

And it is my strong belief has to do with his adopted daughters and how they were adopted.

[Jazzhead]

@Smokin Joe

It would have hardly been "conservative" to blow up the Affordable Care Act:  an arbitrary decision by an unelected judge to nullify an individual insurance market that millions, for better or worse, had come to rely on.     If the ACA is to be reformed or abolished, that is the job of the legislature.  Roberts knows that, and you do too, if you'd be honest about the limits that ought to be respected by judges with lifetime tenure.     

[Smokin Joe]

@Smokin Joe

It would have hardly been "conservative" to blow up the Affordable Care Act:  an arbitrary decision by an unelected judge to nullify an individual insurance market that millions, for better or worse, had come to rely on.     If the ACA is to be reformed or abolished, that is the job of the legislature.  Roberts knows that, and you do too, if you'd be honest about the limits that ought to be respected by judges with lifetime tenure.     

It would be hardly conservative to rewrite legislation from the bench.
The penalty was not a tax, according to the authors and proponents of the bill. We, the people, were repeatedly assured of that, too many times to count.
To rewrite that penalty as a tax, (that penalty which had effectively mandated the purchase of goods or services or be penalized just for breathing), was completely out of the legitimate powers of the Judicial branch at any level.
THAT is completely Unconstitutional.
He can rule on it, but he cannot rewrite it.
The absence of a severability clause would have voided the entire act.

As for relying on the ACA, what about the millions of US who LOST our health insurance because of that legislation? You think WE didn't rely on that? Instead, we get to pay for levels of health care we, ourselves often still cannot enjoy. That isn't one bleep bit conservative, and furthermore, it just isn't right.

Calling something good because some people who should never have benefited from it did, does not make it right, it only perpetuates the injustice upon those who suffer as a result.

[FeelNoPain]

@Smokin Joe

It would have hardly been "conservative" to blow up the Affordable Care Act:  an arbitrary decision by an unelected judge to nullify an individual insurance market that millions, for better or worse, had come to rely on.     If the ACA is to be reformed or abolished, that is the job of the legislature. Roberts knows that, and you do too, if you'd be honest about the limits that ought to be respected by judges with lifetime tenure.     

     @Jazzhead Please help me with something. I never see this question answered and I'm certain that I have to be missing something.

          https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/elections/midterm-exit-polls-2018-n932516
  1. The number one issue behind the ass-kicking that the GOP took in the midterms of 2018 was healthcare.
  2. As of now, the GOP has no viable alternative plan to the ACA
  3. Yet, the GOP is trying to end the ACA. During a pandemic. When millions have lost their jobs (and job-based healthcare).
  4. The Democrats are likely going to run on the issue of healthcare again in the autumn.
  5. Are all these suppositions correct, or am I missing something?

   

[sneakypete]

Roberts spelled "penalty" T A X and upheld one of the most disastrous crap bits of legislation, ever, costing millions of Americans any health insurancethey had.

Recently he rewrote "sex" (as used, the obvious original intent of the legislation being a "binary" biological determination of male versus female) into an act, a preference, an "identification", a practice, in order to encompass the right of perverts and sick people to a job anywhere.

Someone has some career ending dirt on him, and something that could possible put him in prison, and they are pulling his strings. Either that or anything conservative he ever did was just an act.

@Smokin Joe

Hmmmm,let's see,here. Nominated by a homosexual president still living in the closet,never known to have dated a woman before he married one,and adopted two babies from Argentina (guess there were no blonde babies to adopt in America?) that are white,blonde,and have blue eyes.

Nope,nothing to be seen there.

I was trying to warn people about him right after Boy Jorge nominated him,and nobody wanted to listen. Then again,most of those people were still claiming that Boy Jorge was a conservative,so it shouldn't have surprised me.

[sneakypete]

And it is my strong belief has to do with his adopted daughters and how they were adopted.

@Bigun

Not to mention WHY those particular children were adopted. Were there no white babies up for adoption in the US?

[Slide Rule]

Roberts spelled "penalty" T A X and upheld one of the most disastrous crap bits of legislation, ever, costing millions of Americans any health insurancethey had.

Recently he rewrote "sex" (as used, the obvious original intent of the legislation being a "binary" biological determination of male versus female) into an act, a preference, an "identification", a practice, in order to encompass the right of perverts and sick people to a job anywhere.

Someone has some career ending dirt on him, and something that could possible put him in prison, and they are pulling his strings. Either that or anything conservative he ever did was just an act.

It would seem this act that Roberts did can be known by many. Why not put some investigators on it. Discover it and ask
for his resignation along with a full disclosure by Roberts himself. One of those deep sorrow kind of things.

If he has been blackmailed, then let him talk about it to the nation.

[Smokin Joe]

It would seem this act that Roberts did can be known by many. Why not put some investigators on it. Discover it and ask
for his resignation along with a full disclosure by Roberts himself. One of those deep sorrow kind of things.

If he has been blackmailed, then let him talk about it to the nation.

That's a dream, but you forget the political ecology of Washington DC is an intricate balance of everyone knowing dirt on everyone else. They, with rare exception have dirt on each other. Not just ordinary 'paid to have a parking ticket ignored' event (that's a perk, anyway), but the sort of Federal hard time career-ending dirt (unless they are Democrats, then it's called a resume).

Recall, the first thing Hillary did was grab over 900 FBI raw data files on Republicans, both the powerful and the up-and-comers, which provides a wealth of rumor and gossip, as well as some hard info that can be turned to political advantage. They even know where to look for the poster children to make 11th hour allegations in election years.
They carefully avoid digging up each other's graveyards. Once it is out, there's no leverage.

Anyway, that delicate balance of not spilling the beans on people who might spill beans back (or have a mentor who will) is one of the reasons nothing seems to ever get rolled back, even when the opportunity is presented, not to mention why people like Epstein ("service providers" whose only power is having dirt on everyone) wake up dead in the morning if they are caught, lest they spill the beans they have.

Despite us knowing full well that frequent flyers for such providers have abundant reason for being relieved at the thought of convenient accidents, plane crashes, and yes, even 'suicides', the obvious layer yet unturned is whether they were the only, or even the most motivated to celebrate the unfortunate passing of some potential bean-spiller in a botched robbery, accident, of fire.

It's more pervasive than most would like to believe, and both sides of the aisle are involved. We just tend to blame the 'other guys'.
So, it is likely the people still surviving who have any dirt on Roberts either would go down as a result of releasing that dirt, criminally in court, or criminally, in their untimely but 'convenient' demise, with the exception of those who value it for leverage or potential reprisal. One way or another, their lips are sealed.

[Slide Rule]

If Roberts is inconsistent with base principles, that is a problem. Has Roberts asked for relief from
anyone? Yep, that would be tightly held.

In the end if Roberts declines there could be a general outing by Tucker, Gutfeld or even Hannity.
There are things worse than exposure. This is a hard business. Independent of threat, men stand.

[catfish1957]

In the end if Roberts declines there could be a general outing by Tucker, Gutfeld or even Hannity.

For years there have been whispers for years around how Robert''s votes seem to align left when the vote is close due to extortion.
This shit has to stop if correct.

[dancer]

That's a dream, but you forget the political ecology of Washington DC is an intricate balance of everyone knowing dirt on everyone else. They, with rare exception have dirt on each other. Not just ordinary 'paid to have a parking ticket ignored' event (that's a perk, anyway), but the sort of Federal hard time career-ending dirt (unless they are Democrats, then it's called a resume).

Recall, the first thing Hillary did was grab over 900 FBI raw data files on Republicans, both the powerful and the up-and-comers, which provides a wealth of rumor and gossip, as well as some hard info that can be turned to political advantage. They even know where to look for the poster children to make 11th hour allegations in election years.
They carefully avoid digging up each other's graveyards. Once it is out, there's no leverage.

Anyway, that delicate balance of not spilling the beans on people who might spill beans back (or have a mentor who will) is one of the reasons nothing seems to ever get rolled back, even when the opportunity is presented, not to mention why people like Epstein ("service providers" whose only power is having dirt on everyone) wake up dead in the morning if they are caught, lest they spill the beans they have.

Despite us knowing full well that frequent flyers for such providers have abundant reason for being relieved at the thought of convenient accidents, plane crashes, and yes, even 'suicides', the obvious layer yet unturned is whether they were the only, or even the most motivated to celebrate the unfortunate passing of some potential bean-spiller in a botched robbery, accident, of fire.

It's more pervasive than most would like to believe, and both sides of the aisle are involved. We just tend to blame the 'other guys'.
So, it is likely the people still surviving who have any dirt on Roberts either would go down as a result of releasing that dirt, criminally in court, or criminally, in their untimely but 'convenient' demise, with the exception of those who value it for leverage or potential reprisal. One way or another, their lips are sealed.

Roberts is in the Epstein flight logs.  It's a bit more than mere adoptions.

[Slide Rule]

Roberts is in the Epstein flight logs.  It's a bit more than mere adoptions.

If that is the deal then the job goes to Bush and Trump should inform him of his assignment.
Certainly Bush could be more gracious and presidential about it than anyone else. Something
about cleaning up your own messes.

Time for Roberts to develop some cover story, maybe liver cancer, and resign.

[sneakypete]

That's a dream, but you forget the political ecology of Washington DC is an intricate balance of everyone knowing dirt on everyone else. They, with rare exception have dirt on each other. Not just ordinary 'paid to have a parking ticket ignored' event (that's a perk, anyway), but the sort of Federal hard time career-ending dirt (unless they are Democrats, then it's called a resume).

Recall, the first thing Hillary did was grab over 900 FBI raw data files on Republicans,

@Smokin Joe

You fail to give her the credit she is due. She also grabbed all the raw Feeb files on Dims,Independents,union leaders,newspaper editors,and EVERY OTHER "influencer" in the FBI vaults
including people who are not involved in professional politics.

People like relatives of those who are politicians or on the fringe of politics.

[LegalAmerican]

It would be hardly conservative to rewrite legislation from the bench.
The penalty was not a tax, according to the authors and proponents of the bill. We, the people, were repeatedly assured of that, too many times to count.
To rewrite that penalty as a tax, (that penalty which had effectively mandated the purchase of goods or services or be penalized just for breathing), was completely out of the legitimate powers of the Judicial branch at any level.
THAT is completely Unconstitutional.
He can rule on it, but he cannot rewrite it.
The absence of a severability clause would have voided the entire act.

As for relying on the ACA, what about the millions of US who LOST our health insurance because of that legislation? You think WE didn't rely on that? Instead, we get to pay for levels of health care we, ourselves often still cannot enjoy. That isn't one bleep bit conservative, and furthermore, it just isn't right.

Calling something good because some people who should never have benefited from it did, does not make it right, it only perpetuates the injustice upon those who suffer as a result.

 

[LegalAmerican]

     @Jazzhead Please help me with something. I never see this question answered and I'm certain that I have to be missing something.

          https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/elections/midterm-exit-polls-2018-n932516
  1. The number one issue behind the ass-kicking that the GOP took in the midterms of 2018 was healthcare.
  2. As of now, the GOP has no viable alternative plan to the ACA
  3. Yet, the GOP is trying to end the ACA. During a pandemic. When millions have lost their jobs (and job-based healthcare).
  4. The Democrats are likely going to run on the issue of healthcare again in the autumn.
  5. Are all these suppositions correct, or am I missing something?

 

NOT-AFFORDABLE...was NEVER about health.  It was a ploy for re-distribution of wealth and to put in 18,19 new taxes and JOB KILLING REGULATIONS.   The mandated, makes it a dictator event.  LENIN used 'heath' as a way to control people for 70 years.  PRESIDENT Trump was able to remove the ugly mandate part. NO PENALTY.  He has reworked it some, to allow those still on it, for some benefits.  We never needed this, not about health, health plan.  POTUS also removed the job killing REGULATIONS, as company's' could not grow and people could NOT work a 40 hour job.   The people needed, 2 to 3 part time jobs, to survive.  (Artificial jobs increase)  The many millions of dollars it required to implement this on computer , went to Mancheel Obama, school friend in Canada. Remember all the glitches? 
We have medicaid.  That is welfare and each state has their own budget for this freebie.  Illegals have run it out in Arizona and probably other states.  MEDICARE, monthly paid  premium to government health care, mostly for the  elderly. Co-pays and deductibles. INDIGENT CARE, comes from the years property taxes, as homeowner.  Emergency care.  No one can be turned away.  Military (Tri-care ? ) health insurance.  Veterans health care.  PRIVATE HEALTH INSURANCE.  FREE CLINICS. PLANNED PARENTHOOD, PAID ON SLIDIG SCALE FOR WOMEN TO USE. CATHOLIC CHARITYS. 

ACA is just another MEDICAID plan.  WE DON'T NEED IT.   Again, not about 'health'.  Need to stop thinking of it as any kind  of "care".  UNIONS have their health care plans too.  (blue color workers, construction)  CULINARY UNONS.  Nothing about Obamacare was good. You also were mandated to give all your health issues to them.  Cancer was redefined under ACA. to avoid treatment payment.  Remember Obama, " no surgery, you may only need a pill"?  THOUSANDS of IRS agents were hired to be gestapo and make sure you paid.  When ACA was on the floor for total REPEAL, the ONE vote that destroyed that plan, was John McCain. No-name. Screwed over the American people. Please, don't believe socialized health care means better treatment or care.  How does government run the post office?  Any program, before TRUMP?  He fixed the V.A. for Veterans.  Then 'the right to try' for people who are told terminal.  One does not have to travel or go to Europe to find the best cure or help from cancer, now.  It can be done in USA .

AGAIN...obamcare was NEVER about health.  Wrong premiss.   I like private health insurance. One can buy catastrophic insurance if young.    And NO, 2018 was NOT about health care.  2018 WAS PURE VOTER FRAUD BY DEMON-RATS. IT WAS PROVEN. BRENDA SNIPES.  Voter fraud , is the ONLY way demon-rats can get into office. PROVEN TOO?  PROJECT VERITAS, O'KEEFE.   This is all by memory.  There is more, but this should address most of your desires/issues.

[LegalAmerican]

DACA...was sent back to POTUS to rework technicality.  Is this the result/update or old news? I need to look at OP.

[libertybele]

NOT-AFFORDABLE...was NEVER about health.  It was a ploy for re-distribution of wealth and to put in 18,19 new taxes and JOB KILLING REGULATIONS.   The mandated, makes it a dictator event.  LENIN used 'heath' as a way to control people for 70 years.  PRESIDENT Trump was able to remove the ugly mandate part. NO PENALTY.  He has reworked it some, to allow those still on it, for some benefits.  We never needed this, not about health, health plan.  POTUS also removed the job killing REGULATIONS, as company's' could not grow and people could NOT work a 40 hour job.   The people needed, 2 to 3 part time jobs, to survive.  (Artificial jobs increase)  The many millions of dollars it required to implement this on computer , went to Mancheel Obama, school friend in Canada. Remember all the glitches? 
We have medicaid.  That is welfare and each state has their own budget for this freebie.  Illegals have run it out in Arizona and probably other states.  MEDICARE, monthly paid  premium to government health care, mostly for the  elderly. Co-pays and deductibles. INDIGENT CARE, comes from the years property taxes, as homeowner.  Emergency care.  No one can be turned away.  Military (Tri-care ? ) health insurance.  Veterans health care.  PRIVATE HEALTH INSURANCE.  FREE CLINICS. PLANNED PARENTHOOD, PAID ON SLIDIG SCALE FOR WOMEN TO USE. CATHOLIC CHARITYS. 

ACA is just another MEDICAID plan.  WE DON'T NEED IT.   Again, not about 'health'.  Need to stop thinking of it as any kind  of "care".  UNIONS have their health care plans too.  (blue color workers, construction)  CULINARY UNONS.  Nothing about Obamacare was good. You also were mandated to give all your health issues to them.  Cancer was redefined under ACA. to avoid treatment payment.  Remember Obama, " no surgery, you may only need a pill"?  THOUSANDS of IRS agents were hired to be gestapo and make sure you paid.  When ACA was on the floor for total REPEAL, the ONE vote that destroyed that plan, was John McCain. No-name. Screwed over the American people. Please, don't believe socialized health care means better treatment or care.  How does government run the post office?  Any program, before TRUMP?  He fixed the V.A. for Veterans.  Then 'the right to try' for people who are told terminal.  One does not have to travel or go to Europe to find the best cure or help from cancer, now.  It can be done in USA .

AGAIN...obamcare was NEVER about health.  Wrong premiss.  I like private health insurance. One can buy catastrophic insurance if young.    And NO, 2018 was NOT about health care.  2018 WAS PURE VOTER FRAUD BY DEMON-RATS. IT WAS PROVEN. BRENDA SNIPES.  Voter fraud , is the ONLY way demon-rats can get into office. PROVEN TOO?  PROJECT VERITAS, O'KEEFE.   This is all by memory.  There is more, but this should address most of your desires/issues.

    

[LegalAmerican]

Sounds unstable. He should resign immediately and seek professional help.

Correct.  He sees people sitting in chairs, that aren't there.  HALLUCINATIONS. Could be early Parkinson's, for sure, some mental issue.  Like DEMENTIA PELOSI, who thinks BUSH is still president, neither care about America.  (skips over the obama years.)

[FeelNoPain]

AGAIN...obamcare was NEVER about health.  Wrong premiss.   I like private health insurance. One can buy catastrophic insurance if young.    And NO, 2018 was NOT about health care.  2018 WAS PURE VOTER FRAUD BY DEMON-RATS. IT WAS PROVEN.

@LegalAmerican

Thank you for the reply.
I have to disagree with you. Are you saying that a man as brilliant, as genius (DID YOU SEE HIS SCORE ON THE COGNITIVE TEST?) as President Donald JOHN Trump would let the DEMON-RATS, led by the enfeebled NANCY PELOUSY steal an election? SERIOUSLY? That a true fighter, a PATRIOT who loves this country such as POTUS #45 would sit idly by and let the DIMS take control of the House by cheating? Nay, I say, NAY! President Trump would use EVERY MEANS at his disposal, the full weight of his investigatory powers to root out such nefariousness. I have TOO MUCH FAITH in the President's STRENGTH, HIS FORESIGHT, HIS MENTAL ACUITY, and HIS LEADERSHIP to even consider such a possibility. You are severely UNDERESTIMATING how special a man that our POTUS truly is. SHAME!

[LegalAmerican]

   

Thank you!    

[LegalAmerican]

AGAIN...obamcare was NEVER about health.  Wrong premiss.   I like private health insurance. One can buy catastrophic insurance if young.    And NO, 2018 was NOT about health care.  2018 WAS PURE VOTER FRAUD BY DEMON-RATS. IT WAS PROVEN.

@LegalAmerican

Thank you for the reply.
I have to disagree with you. Are you saying that a man as brilliant, as genius (DID YOU SEE HIS SCORE ON THE COGNITIVE TEST?) as President Donald JOHN Trump would let the DEMON-RATS, led by the enfeebled NANCY PELOUSY steal an election? SERIOUSLY? That a true fighter, a PATRIOT who loves this country such as POTUS #45 would sit idly by and let the DIMS take control of the House by cheating? Nay, I say, NAY! President Trump would use EVERY MEANS at his disposal, the full weight of his investigatory powers to root out such nefariousness. I have TOO MUCH FAITH in the President's STRENGTH, HIS FORESIGHT, HIS MENTAL ACUITY, and HIS LEADERSHIP to even consider such a possibility. You are severely UNDERESTIMATING how special a man that our POTUS truly is. SHAME!

 .  Lol. I am talking about corruption.  Everyone on here knows I support my POTUS....BIG TIME. 

I have to chuckle a bit.  WWW.MAGAPILL.COM   

[rustynail]

Breaking Now (7/21)  FBI makes arrests......of Republicans in Ohio.

[libertybele]

AGAIN...obamcare was NEVER about health.  Wrong premiss.   I like private health insurance. One can buy catastrophic insurance if young.    And NO, 2018 was NOT about health care.  2018 WAS PURE VOTER FRAUD BY DEMON-RATS. IT WAS PROVEN.

@LegalAmerican

Thank you for the reply.
I have to disagree with you. Are you saying that a man as brilliant, as genius (DID YOU SEE HIS SCORE ON THE COGNITIVE TEST?) as President Donald JOHN Trump would let the DEMON-RATS, led by the enfeebled NANCY PELOUSY steal an election? SERIOUSLY? That a true fighter, a PATRIOT who loves this country such as POTUS #45 would sit idly by and let the DIMS take control of the House by cheating? Nay, I say, NAY! President Trump would use EVERY MEANS at his disposal, the full weight of his investigatory powers to root out such nefariousness. I have TOO MUCH FAITH in the President's STRENGTH, HIS FORESIGHT, HIS MENTAL ACUITY, and HIS LEADERSHIP to even consider such a possibility. You are severely UNDERESTIMATING how special a man that our POTUS truly is. SHAME!

???? Correct me if I am wrong, but overseeing elections is not a duty of the executive branch.  Federal elections are conducted by state and local governments. Election laws are determined at the state level. Each county has a supervisor of elections.

[Bigun]

Breaking Now (7/21)  FBI makes arrests......of Republicans in Ohio.

Ohio House Speaker Larry Householder arrested in $60 million bribery case

Must be an Ohio style republican.  Much like the son of a mailman former governor of that state.

[Smokin Joe]

NOT-AFFORDABLE...was NEVER about health.  It was a ploy for re-distribution of wealth and to put in 18,19 new taxes and JOB KILLING REGULATIONS.   The mandated, makes it a dictator event.  LENIN used 'heath' as a way to control people for 70 years.  PRESIDENT Trump was able to remove the ugly mandate part. NO PENALTY.  He has reworked it some, to allow those still on it, for some benefits.  We never needed this, not about health, health plan.  POTUS also removed the job killing REGULATIONS, as company's' could not grow and people could NOT work a 40 hour job.   The people needed, 2 to 3 part time jobs, to survive.  (Artificial jobs increase)  The many millions of dollars it required to implement this on computer , went to Mancheel Obama, school friend in Canada. Remember all the glitches? 
We have medicaid.  That is welfare and each state has their own budget for this freebie.  Illegals have run it out in Arizona and probably other states.  MEDICARE, monthly paid  premium to government health care, mostly for the  elderly. Co-pays and deductibles. INDIGENT CARE, comes from the years property taxes, as homeowner.  Emergency care.  No one can be turned away.  Military (Tri-care ? ) health insurance.  Veterans health care.  PRIVATE HEALTH INSURANCE.  FREE CLINICS. PLANNED PARENTHOOD, PAID ON SLIDIG SCALE FOR WOMEN TO USE. CATHOLIC CHARITYS. 

ACA is just another MEDICAID plan.  WE DON'T NEED IT.   Again, not about 'health'.  Need to stop thinking of it as any kind  of "care".  UNIONS have their health care plans too.  (blue color workers, construction)  CULINARY UNONS.  Nothing about Obamacare was good. You also were mandated to give all your health issues to them.  Cancer was redefined under ACA. to avoid treatment payment.  Remember Obama, " no surgery, you may only need a pill"?  THOUSANDS of IRS agents were hired to be gestapo and make sure you paid.  When ACA was on the floor for total REPEAL, the ONE vote that destroyed that plan, was John McCain. No-name. Screwed over the American people. Please, don't believe socialized health care means better treatment or care.  How does government run the post office?  Any program, before TRUMP?  He fixed the V.A. for Veterans.  Then 'the right to try' for people who are told terminal.  One does not have to travel or go to Europe to find the best cure or help from cancer, now.  It can be done in USA .

AGAIN...obamcare was NEVER about health.  Wrong premiss.   I like private health insurance. One can buy catastrophic insurance if young.    And NO, 2018 was NOT about health care.  2018 WAS PURE VOTER FRAUD BY DEMON-RATS. IT WAS PROVEN. BRENDA SNIPES.  Voter fraud , is the ONLY way demon-rats can get into office. PROVEN TOO?  PROJECT VERITAS, O'KEEFE.   This is all by memory.  There is more, but this should address most of your desires/issues.