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If Trump had gone in knocking heads it would be have been futile. We would have lost the next election for sure. The liberals who still have a couple of synapses firing are slowly waking up in the past week because they are seeing that the little Utopia they were dreaming of is going to be run by these useless figureheads and a bunch of anarchist.

If you take the time to check out WalkAway and some of the conservative black YouTube and Instagram accounts you will see there is an awakening happening. I am gaining more and more hope by the day. They are thinking Wait this is not what I wanted. This is totally backfiring. The corporations hopping on and the celeb virtue signaling is becoming too much for even them. The blacks turning on them calling them racist for questioning anything about the agitators and violence. They are eating their own and it’s beautiful for us.



Wow.  Therein lies the problem!  First and foremost he needs to do his job and protect the very people that will vote for him.  IMHO, he doesn't get this under control, he'll lose anyways due to massive corruption that is being allowed to further develop or we won't see another election.
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It's all in the timing.  Go in too late and there's nothing left to save, but if troops go in too early, then both sides will turn on the soldiers to the great delight of the leftist press.  It's like trying to break up a barroom fight. 

As long as the Rats claim they don't want the help, help cannot be forced upon them.  You want the President to win reelection, don't you? 
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Most innocent citizens have the smarts to realize that they shouldn't go into an area that is rioting...or stay home lock their doors with arms ready. 

Trump made a comment that he would bring in the military and now he's made this comment about Seattle. 

If he had no intent of doing anything he should have kept his mouth shut.  If he indeed he is talking to all his "players" ... he still should have kept his mouth shut until he was ready to act.

So far, he's done nothing.  So the rioters, protesters, takeovers will proceed as they darn well please and that's exactly what they're doing with little to no resistance. Meanwhile we have squat teams walking off the force and police making an exodus.

Are you saying the President should send the Army into a city when the governor and mayor don't want him to?   @libertybele

Asking for a friend.   happy77

(BTW  the report I read stated 10 swat team members resigned.  Worth watching, but not quite an exodus)


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Are you saying the President should send the Army into a city when the governor and mayor don't want him to?   @libertybele

Asking for a friend.   happy77

(BTW  the report I read stated 10 swat team members resigned.  Worth watching, but not quite an exodus)

I really don't understand the war-mongering.  :shrug:

I'd be pretty upset if O'Bastard sent troops into recalcitrant cities at the drop of a hat, why would I root for Trump to do it?
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Whatever "Trump" now says on this issue is absolutely futile. 

@libertybele

100 percent true. He,as President,is OBLIGATED by his oath and the law to subdue violence in the streets and outright rebellion,and that is EXACTLY what he,and we as a nation,are now facing.

The Trust Fund Children and their parents that are behind this have realized there is zero chance of Biden winning election and decades of their planning will be flushed down the toilet if he isn't,have decided to straight to violent revolution in order to maintain power and establish the Global Government they have been working towards all their lives.

To do this they MUST create a state of anarchy in order to destabilize the government to the point where the typical America loses all faith in it,and quits supporting it. In other words,essentially demands we surrender control to the globalists in order to have a return to peace.

"Peace with Slavery" would be an apt slogan,but they would never use it in public,even though that is their goal.

They are using the blacks for Storm Troopers (with white and Jewish Trust Fund Children supervision,of course because they know the darkies would just get ripped on stolen Ripple if left without adult supervision) because our black population has been conditioned to believe they are professional victims for the last 50 + years,and are ready and raring to go.

Also,the government could put down a violent rebellion by white thugs,and the result would be "Who cares? They needed to be put down!" 

That is not the case with black rioters. Whites have been conditioned to accept "White Guilt" as a burden they MUST carry for things their ancestors may,or may not have done prior to 1865. These fools actually think they have been HELPING blacks obtain true equality,and the exact opposite is true. All they have done is make blacks even more dependent on the welfare state.

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The movement is already underway.


Yes,it is,and unless the feral government goes after the leadership in the way the leadership needs to be gone after,it is only going to get worse until eventually a State of National Emergency is called,and the BoR are suspended "for the duration of the troubles". Which will be "forever".

Gee,if you didn't know better,you would almost think that was the plan from the beginning,wouldn't you?

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What is he going to do?


All he CAN do is try to bluster them into compliance at first with threats of "bringing down the hammer by bringing in armed Federal troops to stop the rioting and seize back the private property stolen by the left.

I am about as far from being a "insider" in DC or the Pentagram,but I rate Trump's chances of getting the army to cooperate at 50/50 at BEST. The US Military is too "Powellized" by now with Affirmative Action appointments and promotions. I don't like saying this,but I fully expect at least half the senior serving officers today are more likely to take the side of the black rioters than the side of the Constitution.

Speaking of hangings once the dust settles........ They are going to happen regardless of which  side is still left standing.

The Second American Revolution is ON,because the Globalists realize they have zero chance of obtaining their goals politically because Biden is the best they have to offer,and he is a certified fool and crook and everybody knows it. So they are left with violent revolution as their only hope.

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Ask the police officers to come back with a "pretty please" and a cherry on top?? 

Well,since their PC AA leadership have all sided with the rioters,and so will the Dims in Congress,they would be fools to come back to put their lives on the line,and end up facing felony charges if the left wins. SOMEBODY is going to end up being blamed for all the deaths and destruction,and it damn sure ain't going to be any of the Saintly blacks!

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He should have calmed the riots long before and certainly when they attacked the WH.


When was the WH assaulted?

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He talked the talk and then walked it back with no action.

Only a fool would blame him for trying. You can back off from words,but there is no backing off from bloodletting.
 
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You sound the protesters who were screaming not 24 hrs after Floyd died that they weren’t getting any justice. Don’t mind that they had to investigate because the officers had rights and they had to charge them with the right thought out charges.

Trump HAS to give them time to Work their own business out. He couldn’t march in the next day. He could voice a warning that’s it!  Now he has to talk behind scenes to all the players, watch, access and make plans
for the most strategic way to go into an area with innocent US civilians and anarchist all bunched together and sort the good, the bad and the ugly out with as little collateral damage as possible.

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You are making too much sense. STOP THAT IMMEDIATELY!

Don't you know there are people here who have too much "moral" hatred for Trump to back anything he says?

If Trump were to say he likes ice cream,these people would immediately be against it being legal to sell ice cream.

We need to focus on the IMPORTANT things!

BTW,did you know that Trump has had sex with women he wasn't married to? No kidding!
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You might as well be because you are a part of the problem,not the solution.
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Actually, you and your fellow Trump supporters are part of the problem because you don't demand he do what he was elected to do.    You just blindly listen to his BS and make excuses when he doesn't do his job.

The problem here is that we are faced with two terrible candidates for the election in November.  One choice is obviously wrong -- a member of the party that has gone full-on communist, determined to take down this nation.  But the other choice makes promises, threatens to take action, but does nothing.  I keep hearing how we have to vote for Trump to "save us" from the evil on the other side.  But what has Trump done in four years to prevent the situation we are in now?  Do you really believe he is going to really do anything he didn't do in his first term if he is re-elected to a second term?  I can guarantee you, if the Republicans lose the senate in addition to the house they have already lost -- even if Trump wanted to be a real leader and fight the evil from the other side, he won't be able to do it.   We will have a eunuch in the White House, a puppet who will sign whatever monstrous legislation put in front of him.  Hell, he does that now with the spending spree bills.

Trump and the Republicans had their chance to "save us" from Democrat evil  -- back when the party owned both houses of congress and the presidency.  It was their laziness in not doing their jobs that has brought us into the situation we are in now.  Why would you and other Trump supporters think they are going to "save us" now?  Why would you continue to vote for them?

My friend, it is obvious to anyone not a Trump supporter that he is not our savior, not our last line of defense against the evil that is already here.  We cannot look to him or his party to defend us.  Right now, we are all on our own.
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Some are overcomplicating this.

For the most part, the President can do little until the people of Washington actually want him to intervene...and that pressure will eventually come from the bottom up and will be applied, IMHO, most heavily on the Governor. If the Governor does nothing, that will have a consequence and the more outrage amongst the citizenry grows...the better. Intervention from the Fed let's all of these idiots off the hook. So by all means, the President should apply pressure and suggest that he will intervene if necessary...this makes it crystal clear that the Feds are ready and able to restore order and that the one allowing this fiasco to continue is Governor Inslee.

Tennessee, as mentioned, is entirely different because the Governor there will either handle it directly...or will ask for help. Once asked, the Fed becomes a savior...not an oppressor. Further, with public support on the ground, the mission to clear these idiots out because exponentially more manageable.
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@sneakypete

Actually, you and your fellow Trump supporters are part of the problem because you don't demand he do what he was elected to do.    You just blindly listen to his BS and make excuses when he doesn't do his job.

The problem here is that we are faced with two terrible candidates for the election in November.  One choice is obviously wrong -- a member of the party that has gone full-on communist, determined to take down this nation.  But the other choice makes promises, threatens to take action, but does nothing.  I keep hearing how we have to vote for Trump to "save us" from the evil on the other side.  But what has Trump done in four years to prevent the situation we are in now?  Do you really believe he is going to really do anything he didn't do in his first term if he is re-elected to a second term?  I can guarantee you, if the Republicans lose the senate in addition to the house they have already lost -- even if Trump wanted to be a real leader and fight the evil from the other side, he won't be able to do it.   We will have a eunuch in the White House, a puppet who will sign whatever monstrous legislation put in front of him.  Hell, he does that now with the spending spree bills.

Trump and the Republicans had their chance to "save us" from Democrat evil  -- back when the party owned both houses of congress and the presidency.  It was their laziness in not doing their jobs that has brought us into the situation we are in now.  Why would you and other Trump supporters think they are going to "save us" now?  Why would you continue to vote for them?


Obviously you haven't been paying attention these past 3+ years.

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@sneakypete

Actually, you and your fellow Trump supporters are part of the problem because you don't demand he do what he was elected to do.    You just blindly listen to his BS and make excuses when he doesn't do his job.

@Applewood

Orange man bad,blah,blah,blah.

You should copy and paste the above and save yourself a lot of typing because that is ALL you have.
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@sneakypete

Actually, you and your fellow Trump supporters are part of the problem because you don't demand he do what he was elected to do.    You just blindly listen to his BS and make excuses when he doesn't do his job.

What isn't he doing right now?  @Applewood   Or put another way, what would you like him to do?

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Some are overcomplicating this.

For the most part, the President can do little until the people of Washington actually want him to intervene...and that pressure will eventually come from the bottom up and will be applied, IMHO, most heavily on the Governor. If the Governor does nothing, that will have a consequence and the more outrage amongst the citizenry grows...the better. Intervention from the Fed let's all of these idiots off the hook. So by all means, the President should apply pressure and suggest that he will intervene if necessary...this makes it crystal clear that the Feds are ready and able to restore order and that the one allowing this fiasco to continue is Governor Inslee.

Tennessee, as mentioned, is entirely different because the Governor there will either handle it directly...or will ask for help. Once asked, the Fed becomes a savior...not an oppressor. Further, with public support on the ground, the mission to clear these idiots out because exponentially more manageable.

@Mesaclone

Every word true,and 90  percent of the people you are directing it to as seasoned political observers who have been reading and posting to political message boards for years,and know it.

NONE of that matters.

The ONLY thing that matters to them is "Orange man bad".
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@Mesaclone

Every word true,and 90  percent of the people you are directing it to as seasoned political observers who have been reading and posting to political message boards for years,and know it.

NONE of that matters.

The ONLY thing that matters to them is "Orange man bad".

Sadly, you are 100% correct.
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I think Trump should have a press conference and give the country a civics lesson on the duties in State government of Mayors and Governors and the duties in the federal government and the President to control the events in sovereign states. Break it down like Mr. Rogers and put the shame on those idiotic pandering officials.  Tell the people of Seattle to let their voices be heard if they are being ignored and put in danger by the people they elected. If they don’t speak up and demand the federal governments help, that he is more than willing to give, then enjoy the free state of Chaz.

Trump is slated to give the Commencement address at West Point today. Maybe he’ll address some of your points. He has a habit of always incorporating current issues into every speaking opportunity.

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@Mesaclone

Every word true,and 90  percent of the people you are directing it to as seasoned political observers who have been reading and posting to political message boards for years,and know it.

NONE of that matters.

The ONLY thing that matters to them is "Orange man bad".

Sadly, you are 100% correct.

Not a lot of big picture people around these day. But, enough of that. Let’s talk about Trump’s bad manners.

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Not a lot of big picture people around these day. But, enough of that. Let’s talk about Trump’s bad manners.

No matter what you think of Trump, the alternative is a dementia laden Biden POTUS, an ultra left wing VPOTUS, and dim senate and house.
That will allow them to implement their plan to expand SCOTUS to 11 judges.  We will not have any defenses against the socialist onslaught.

Even our most ardent Trump haters need to realize this.
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Trump is slated to give the Commencement address at West Point today. Maybe he’ll address some of your points. He has a habit of always incorporating current issues into every speaking opportunity.

POTUS is giving the speech live now     happy77

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No matter what you think of Trump, the alternative is a dementia laden Biden POTUS, an ultra left wing VPOTUS, and dim senate and house.
That will allow them to implement their plan to expand SCOTUS to 11 judges.  We will not have any defenses against the socialist onslaught.

Even our most ardent Trump haters need to realize this.

There seems to be a school of thought that society, as we know it, must completely collapse before it can be fixed.  This is, coincidentally, the desire of both the far left and far right, both so far away from the center they are more alike than different.  They're all nihilists.
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POTUS is giving the speech live now     happy77

Yikes, I’m behind the curve. Too busy flattening it, I guess.

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There seems to be a school of thought that society, as we know it, must completely collapse before it can be fixed.  This is, coincidentally, the desire of both the far left and far right, both so far away from the center they are more alike than different.  They're all nihilists.

That’s what happens when you try to be 99 and 44/100 percent pure. :smokin:

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POTUS is giving the speech live now     happy77

Watching.

What a contrast to the dung in Seattle.

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No matter what you think of Trump, the alternative is a dementia laden Biden POTUS, an ultra left wing VPOTUS, and dim senate and house.
That will allow them to implement their plan to expand SCOTUS to 11 judges.  We will not have any defenses against the socialist onslaught.

Even our most ardent Trump haters need to realize this.

You are right....but they won't.

Their self-righteousness outweighs their common sense...and its not a close contest.
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Whatever "Trump" now says on this issue is absolutely futile.  The movement is already underway.  What is he going to do?  Ask the police officers to come back with a "pretty please" and a cherry on top??  He should have calmed the riots long before and certainly when they attacked the WH.  He talked the talk and then walked it back with no action.
The local authorities should have stopped this crap early. The studies were done in the '60s of what force levels should be used when to get the rioters and looters off the streets to shut the whole mess down.
It isn't anything we haven't seen before, and when law and order were prized over political correctness in the Media and our society, those actions were figured out and used where those in power had the fortitude to do so.
This transcends mere ignorance on the part of officials, for which there is no excuse, and instead represents betrayal of their constituencies by officials, elected and appointed alike.
While yes, Virginia, the POTUS does have the power to order insurrection quelled, to do so prematurely and without the request of those more immediately responsible to do so only invites charges and claims that he used his authority to override solutions the others had put in place or were about to implement and abused his power.

He can do nothing from a political standpoint until either requested, or the situation is such that it is clear intervention is  matter of national import.
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@sneakypete

Actually, you and your fellow Trump supporters are part of the problem because you don't demand he do what he was elected to do.    You just blindly listen to his BS and make excuses when he doesn't do his job.

The problem here is that we are faced with two terrible candidates for the election in November.  One choice is obviously wrong -- a member of the party that has gone full-on communist, determined to take down this nation.  But the other choice makes promises, threatens to take action, but does nothing.  I keep hearing how we have to vote for Trump to "save us" from the evil on the other side.  But what has Trump done in four years to prevent the situation we are in now?  Do you really believe he is going to really do anything he didn't do in his first term if he is re-elected to a second term?  I can guarantee you, if the Republicans lose the senate in addition to the house they have already lost -- even if Trump wanted to be a real leader and fight the evil from the other side, he won't be able to do it.   We will have a eunuch in the White House, a puppet who will sign whatever monstrous legislation put in front of him.  Hell, he does that now with the spending spree bills.

Trump and the Republicans had their chance to "save us" from Democrat evil  -- back when the party owned both houses of congress and the presidency.  It was their laziness in not doing their jobs that has brought us into the situation we are in now.  Why would you and other Trump supporters think they are going to "save us" now?  Why would you continue to vote for them?

My friend, it is obvious to anyone not a Trump supporter that he is not our savior, not our last line of defense against the evil that is already here.  We cannot look to him or his party to defend us.  Right now, we are all on our own.

Dear heart, there is only One Saviour, and he isn't in politics.
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Dear heart, there is only One Saviour, and he isn't in politics.

I know that, but apparently, some do not.