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Trump Wanted to Fire Esper Over Troops Dispute (WSJ)
« on: June 09, 2020, 08:15:15 pm »
Trump Wanted to Fire Esper Over Troops Dispute

Gordon Lubold 40 mins ago


WASHINGTON—President Trump last week was on the brink of firing Defense Secretary Mark Esper over their differing views of domestic use of active-duty military, before advisers and allies on Capitol Hill talked him out of it, according to several officials.

The officials said Mr. Trump was furious with Mr. Esper for not supporting his inclination to use active-duty troops to quell protests in Washington, D.C., Minneapolis and elsewhere following the killing of George Floyd in Minneapolis on May 25.

The president consulted several advisers to ask their opinion of the disagreement, intent that day on removing Mr. Esper, his fourth defense secretary since taking office in January 2017, according to the officials. After talks with the advisers, who cautioned against the move, Mr. Trump set aside the plans to immediately fire Mr. Esper.

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Re: Trump Wanted to Fire Esper Over Troops Dispute (WSJ)
« Reply #1 on: June 09, 2020, 08:16:50 pm »
Just do it!

He does a lot of threatening but he never seems to follow through.

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Re: Trump Wanted to Fire Esper Over Troops Dispute (WSJ)
« Reply #2 on: June 09, 2020, 08:17:46 pm »
Annoymorously sourced.
If, as anti-Covid-vaxxers claim, https://www.poynter.org/fact-checking/2021/robert-f-kennedy-jr-said-the-covid-19-vaccine-is-the-deadliest-vaccine-ever-made-thats-not-true/ , https://gospelnewsnetwork.org/2021/11/23/covid-shots-are-the-deadliest-vaccines-in-medical-history/ , The Vaccine is deadly, where in the US have Pfizer and Moderna hidden the millions of bodies of those who died of "vaccine injury"? Is reality a Big Pharma Shill?

Millions now living should have died. Anti-Covid-Vaxxer ghouls hardest hit.

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Re: Trump Wanted to Fire Esper Over Troops Dispute (WSJ)
« Reply #3 on: June 09, 2020, 08:19:17 pm »
Does this mean he's not gonna sack Esper?  Rats.  :soangry:
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Trump was talked out of firing Esper last week: report
« Reply #4 on: June 09, 2020, 10:15:51 pm »
Trump was talked out of firing Esper last week: report
By Ellen Mitchell - 06/09/20 05:39 PM EDT

President Trump reportedly wanted to dismiss Defense Secretary Mark Esper last week over conflicting views on the use of active-duty troops to quell nationwide protests, but was talked out of it by advisers and lawmakers.

Officials told The Wall Street Journal that Trump — angry with Esper for not backing his threats to use active-duty forces to quash unrest in Washington, D.C., Minneapolis and other cities — was focused on sacking the Pentagon chief last Wednesday.

But when Trump asked several advisers for their opinions on the matter, he was reportedly counseled to shelve such a plan.


Esper at the same time had started to prepare a letter of resignation as he was aware of Trump’s anger, but stopped after aides and other advisers pressed against it, some of the officials told the Journal.

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Re: Trump Wanted to Fire Esper Over Troops Dispute (WSJ)
« Reply #5 on: June 09, 2020, 10:37:53 pm »
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Re: Trump Wanted to Fire Esper Over Troops Dispute (WSJ)
« Reply #6 on: June 09, 2020, 10:44:04 pm »
May I suggest a template for future stories like the above?

Trump Wanted to Fire Esper Over Troops Dispute

Trump Wanted to Fire {Insert Name} Over {Subject} Dispute

Might save some time. I expect to see the SecDef and Army Secretary gone before the 4th of July.
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Re: Trump Wanted to Fire Esper Over Troops Dispute (WSJ)
« Reply #7 on: June 09, 2020, 10:51:57 pm »
May I suggest a template for future stories like the above?

Trump Wanted to Fire Esper Over Troops Dispute

Trump Wanted to Fire {Insert Name} Over {Subject} Dispute

Might save some time. I expect to see the SecDef and Army Secretary gone before the 4th of July.

We'd better.  You don't get more effed up than "I refuse to follow a legal order from the Commander in Chief!"
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Re: Trump Wanted to Fire Esper Over Troops Dispute (WSJ)
« Reply #8 on: June 09, 2020, 10:53:21 pm »
Would have been 100% justified. Was this Kushner's doing?

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Re: Trump Wanted to Fire Esper Over Troops Dispute (WSJ)
« Reply #9 on: June 09, 2020, 10:53:43 pm »
   He goes through SecofDef's like I go through Girlfriends.
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Re: Trump Wanted to Fire Esper Over Troops Dispute (WSJ)
« Reply #10 on: June 09, 2020, 10:56:42 pm »
   He goes through SecofDef's like I go through Girlfriends.

@corbe

Y'all need to expand your dating pool a bit.  js.
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Re: Trump Wanted to Fire Esper Over Troops Dispute (WSJ)
« Reply #11 on: June 09, 2020, 10:59:57 pm »


   Just a suggestion
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Re: Trump Wanted to Fire Esper Over Troops Dispute (WSJ)
« Reply #12 on: June 09, 2020, 11:02:07 pm »