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What is the Level of your Current Misery, Politically (or otherwise)?

Start Praying and buying ammo, this experiment is over
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It's Pretty Bad
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The Glass is still half full
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    I've been shucking my duties as the Poll Thread Moderator and First and Foremost I want to apologize, for that (only).   wink777

    I've just been so busy lately working on my ol house trying to divert my attention away from all this $hit of late, Covid AND Riots.

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    I've been shucking my duties as the Poll Thread Moderator and First and Foremost I want to apologize, for that (only).   wink777

    I've just been so busy lately working on my ol house trying to divert my attention away from all this $hit of late, Covid AND Riots.

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I hear ya ... diversion is necessary --- with what's happening on the home front, COVID crap and the race riots ... I needed a moment of sanity...so I've redecorated the bedroom and am working on landscaping along the fence.  These past couple of months have been difficult.
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Live in harmony with one another; do not be haughty, but associate with the lowly, do not claim to be wiser than you are.  Do not repay anyone evil for evil, but take thought for what is noble in the sight of all.  If it is possible, so far as it depends on you, live peaceably with all…do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good.

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I voted for praying and more ammo.  Praying is a daily thing of mine ... and ammo ... can't hurt to have a goodly supply on hand.  :yowsa:

I'm 60 something and I don't ever remember things being this bad -- the liberal DEMS are even more nuts, Antifa & BLM are beyond bat crap crazy, the GOPe is even more screwed up then ever, so yes ... prayers and more ammo.
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Romans 12:16-21

Live in harmony with one another; do not be haughty, but associate with the lowly, do not claim to be wiser than you are.  Do not repay anyone evil for evil, but take thought for what is noble in the sight of all.  If it is possible, so far as it depends on you, live peaceably with all…do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good.

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No government in the 12,000 years of modern mankind history has led its people into anything but the history books with a simple lesson, don't let this happen to you.

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Civil War is Coming, no doubt.

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Meh - Praying and ammo is normal around here anyway...

And other than eating my stores down near to the nub, not really much different around here. And my pantry is getting better...

Don't let the bastards grind you down man. Maybe time to sell and head for that river country you keep on about...

That's all I will do if it goes cattywompus... Just fade back into the sticks and wait it out. If I never come down again, suits me fine.

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Civil War is Coming, no doubt.

A few years ago, I would have laughed at that notion...

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Civil War is Coming, no doubt.

Well, the way I see it, I believe that the civil war has already started; neither party, nor Trump is doing a darn thing to stop it, and we are headed towards total anarchy in which every man will need to fend for himself.  Nope ... not real optimistic these days and in fact, I have doubts that we are going to see another election. 
Romans 12:16-21

Live in harmony with one another; do not be haughty, but associate with the lowly, do not claim to be wiser than you are.  Do not repay anyone evil for evil, but take thought for what is noble in the sight of all.  If it is possible, so far as it depends on you, live peaceably with all…do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good.

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Well, the way I see it, I believe that the civil war has already started; neither party, nor Trump is doing a darn thing to stop it, and we are headed towards total anarchy in which every man will need to fend for himself.  Nope ... not real optimistic these days and in fact, I have doubts that we are going to see another election.

That or we need a Kent State moment. Not sure what that would look like though.

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That or we need a Kent State moment. Not sure what that would look like though.

Unfortunately, Trump seems to have walked back the idea of using the military.  So, they've called his bluff.
Romans 12:16-21

Live in harmony with one another; do not be haughty, but associate with the lowly, do not claim to be wiser than you are.  Do not repay anyone evil for evil, but take thought for what is noble in the sight of all.  If it is possible, so far as it depends on you, live peaceably with all…do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good.

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Re: What is the Level of your Current Misery, Politically (or orherwise)?
« Reply #10 on: June 08, 2020, 01:58:39 am »
   I spent yesterday doing the Community thing first, Met the Mayor who said 'Good to see ya, Mark, didn't recognize you with the Long Hair' (my hairs been long since 75), he lied, I was invited by his FIL who was celebrating 90.
   Then I went for what would pass today as a 'Trump Rallye', My Mothers 87th BD, at least it was Family, but still somewhat surreal, they blocked my car in so I'd have to stay and listen to them, it was painful.

    *Still a little of a Jagged Disposition.
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Re: What is the Level of your Current Misery, Politically (or orherwise)?
« Reply #11 on: June 08, 2020, 02:06:25 am »
Unfortunately, Trump seems to have walked back the idea of using the military.  So, they've called his bluff.

Trump is literally all alone.

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Re: What is the Level of your Current Misery, Politically (or orherwise)?
« Reply #12 on: June 08, 2020, 02:07:15 am »
   I spent yesterday doing the Community thing first, Met the Mayor who said 'Go to see ya, Mark, didn't recognize you with the Long Hair' (my hairs been long since 75), he lied, I was invited by his FIL who was celebrating 90.
   Then I went for what would pass today as a 'Trump Rallye', My Mothers 87th BD, at least it was Family, but still somewhat surreal, they blocked my car in so I'd have to stay and listen to them, it was painful.

    *Still a little of a Jagged Disposition.

Sounds just as stressful as dealing with COVID and the riots. Joy!
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Live in harmony with one another; do not be haughty, but associate with the lowly, do not claim to be wiser than you are.  Do not repay anyone evil for evil, but take thought for what is noble in the sight of all.  If it is possible, so far as it depends on you, live peaceably with all…do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good.

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Re: What is the Level of your Current Misery, Politically (or orherwise)?
« Reply #13 on: June 08, 2020, 04:00:27 am »
Unfortunately, Trump seems to have walked back the idea of using the military.  So, they've called his bluff.

He was tweeting before thinking again, because he couldn't use the military unless he was invited... and DC was controllable with non-lethal rounds. That's another thing, Trump suppressed a major civil disturbance with, as far as I know, not a single person getting killed (in DC, which arguably fell under his jurisdiction). Yet he's still criticized.

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Re: What is the Level of your Current Misery, Politically (or orherwise)?
« Reply #14 on: June 08, 2020, 04:26:35 am »
He was tweeting before thinking again, because he couldn't use the military unless he was invited... and DC was controllable with non-lethal rounds. That's another thing, Trump suppressed a major civil disturbance with, as far as I know, not a single person getting killed (in DC, which arguably fell under his jurisdiction). Yet he's still criticized.

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Re: What is the Level of your Current Misery, Politically (or orherwise)?
« Reply #15 on: June 08, 2020, 10:42:14 am »
I’m miserable. The upshot?  I’m preppin’ for a colonoscopy.
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Re: What is the Level of your Current Misery, Politically (or orherwise)?
« Reply #16 on: June 08, 2020, 04:38:55 pm »
Trump is not a complicated individual.  He always threatens to do something extreme, or beyond expectation only to settle for something less.  I doubt he intended to use the military, he just wanted people on their toes.

There is no revolution coming unless the shelves are going to be bare of food.  Apathy is still well entrenched in American society.

And in regard to BLACK LIVES MATTER, that whole movement which has steam one moment and dissipates into nothing the next, it doesn't get wheels either.  Until the day comes that black lives matter to blacks, and that day just does not exist, then again, nothing much changes.  In one week recently, I believe 28 people were shot and killed in just Chicago.  Nothing much was said about it.  It is expected.  The jungle of south Chicago is largely ignored.

I have never owned a gun.  When I decided recently it was time to get one and stock up on some ammo, the weapon I wanted for home defense was nowhere to be found.  When I went to Bass Pro to meet a friend one day, I went on a walk about through the store, landed at the gun counter to find the shelves basically bare.  I asked one of the sales reps if they had a Mossberg shotgun, and he chuckled and said no.  When I asked if they carried them he said yes, but he had no idea when they would be restocked.  So, for the moment, all I have for home defense is a baseball bat from my youth.

In terms of misery level, I was slated for a consulting gig in February, and a tornado blew through Tennessee, which delayed the project, then the virus flared up, and I sit here waiting for a project that might just not come to fruition.  So, my misery is the lost income.

And that brings me to one major irritant about Trump.  He could create 1 - 1.5 million jobs over night by fulfilling a campaign promise from 2016 that he flip flopped on, that being the elimination of the H1-b Visa Program.  We have a huge number of largely folks from India working on system development projects in the USA at half the income and no benefits, having displaced AMerican workers.  But Trump sold out to the tech power brokers.  Better to kiss their *ss apparently.  I know quite a few conservative people that lost jobs that are disappointed in Trump, many threatening not to vote for Trump in November.  His decision on this might just cost him the election, because a lot of these folks are in Florida and Michigan, two states he definitely needs to win in November.

I have worked on so many projects staffed with folks from India, and I know that these low cost folks bring little to the job.  Also we are outsourcing a lot of development to India, China and the Ukraine, and the only group I thought were productive were the folks in Ukraine.  However, there is additional cost with folks flying back and forth from the Ukraine, and the language differences in working together.

Due to the greed of the tech power brokers, the USA will ultimately be left behind with China, India or other nations leaving the USA in the dust.  We just do not care about our people in this country any longer.  That is why Trump's certain election is in doubt for me.  His failure to deliver on this one issue proves how he just does not care about the American people, that his stances are nothing more than empty rhetoric.

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Re: What is the Level of your Current Misery, Politically (or orherwise)?
« Reply #17 on: June 08, 2020, 04:44:50 pm »
As a young adult in the Carter administration, I well remember how disheartening it was to have the price shoot up everytime you went to grocery or department store.  In fact back in that day, you didn't need expiration date or "use by" dates.   You just used the item from the pantry with lowest price first.

People were pissed, and miserable.
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Re: What is the Level of your Current Misery, Politically (or orherwise)?
« Reply #18 on: June 08, 2020, 04:52:58 pm »
He was tweeting before thinking again, because he couldn't use the military unless he was invited... and DC was controllable with non-lethal rounds. That's another thing, Trump suppressed a major civil disturbance with, as far as I know, not a single person getting killed (in DC, which arguably fell under his jurisdiction). Yet he's still criticized.

People are being injured all over the country with businesses being destroyed and 60 of his SS were injured. "They" stormed the white house, they are demanding that law enforcement be dismantled. He's being criticized because one again, he's back pedaled when he should be showing strength.  That is the last thing this country needed right now; a President who doesn't do what he says he's going to do. 
Romans 12:16-21

Live in harmony with one another; do not be haughty, but associate with the lowly, do not claim to be wiser than you are.  Do not repay anyone evil for evil, but take thought for what is noble in the sight of all.  If it is possible, so far as it depends on you, live peaceably with all…do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good.

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Re: What is the Level of your Current Misery, Politically (or orherwise)?
« Reply #19 on: June 10, 2020, 12:46:12 pm »
I don't think even ammo will save us at this point, and God is sitting on His hands. It's over.
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Re: What is the Level of your Current Misery, Politically (or orherwise)?
« Reply #20 on: June 10, 2020, 12:59:23 pm »
I don't think even ammo will save us at this point, and God is sitting on His hands. It's over.

Um.... God told us pretty much what was going to happen so that his followers could prepare.   He just didn't tell us the "exact" timing.  Be grateful that at least we know this is all going according to His plan and His word.
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Re: What is the Level of your Current Misery, Politically (or orherwise)?
« Reply #21 on: June 10, 2020, 02:42:32 pm »
I'm past worrying about it,and even past planning for it.

I'm waiting for the opening ceremony and hoping it happens soon because I see it as inevitable at this point,and the sooner it begins the fewer people that will die or lose loved ones.

I am determined to survive this thing because the one thing I dream of in life now is to attend the public hangings.
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Re: What is the Level of your Current Misery, Politically (or orherwise)?
« Reply #22 on: June 10, 2020, 02:45:50 pm »
People are being injured all over the country with businesses being destroyed and 60 of his SS were injured. "They" stormed the white house, they are demanding that law enforcement be dismantled. He's being criticized because one again, he's back pedaled when he should be showing strength.  That is the last thing this country needed right now; a President who doesn't do what he says he's going to do.

And nobody died from Trump's actions. Some snowflakes got some gas and rubber bullets but that's it.

Why isn't anyone pointing that out?

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Re: What is the Level of your Current Misery, Politically (or orherwise)?
« Reply #23 on: June 10, 2020, 02:48:23 pm »
Trump is literally all alone.

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I agree. I seriously doubt anyone has flat refused to cooperate with him,but I also seriously doubt that no one has whispered into his ear to not ask for things he can't get,and for the most part,our military leadership is shit. Most seem to be paving the way for corporate board seats on seats in "think tanks" once they retire,and we know that the only way to assure either is to kiss the asses of the globalists causing the problems.

I am HOPING that Trump get's re-elected,and after the election he starts cleaning house at the Pentagram by forcing senior officers into retirement,and most important of all,passing a law that makes it illegal for retired military officers to have seats on the boards of corporations with links or contracts to the US military.

ONLY a President that will never face an election again can get away with that,but it's one of the most important things that needs to be done or we will never end this state of perpetual war for profits.

Either that,or we should just be honest enough to rename it "The Offense Department" and be done with it.
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Re: What is the Level of your Current Misery, Politically (or orherwise)?
« Reply #24 on: June 10, 2020, 03:45:25 pm »
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Trump is not a complicated individual.  He always threatens to do something extreme, or beyond expectation only to settle for something less.  I doubt he intended to use the military, he just wanted people on their toes.

@jafo2010

It's called "negoiating". It's such a simple concept,I can't understand why so many people can't understand it.
 

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And that brings me to one major irritant about Trump.  He could create 1 - 1.5 million jobs over night by fulfilling a campaign promise from 2016 that he flip flopped on, that being the elimination of the H1-b Visa Program.  We have a huge number of largely folks from India working on system development projects in the USA at half the income and no benefits, having displaced AMerican workers.  But Trump sold out to the tech power brokers.  Better to kiss their *ss apparently.


You have your finger stuck in your eye,so you can't see clearly.

Trump is our President,NOT our dictator,and he is facing a re-election. He has to focus on the things he CAN do at the moment,and set other things aside until after he no longer needs political and financial support.

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I know quite a few conservative people that lost jobs that are disappointed in Trump, many threatening not to vote for Trump in November.


These people have all the intellectual depth and political understanding of a gold fish. We elect Presidents to represent ALL the people of America,not just a few.

The fact that in the last 50 years the majority of our Presidents have mostly represented donors and political supporters with influence is WHY we are where we are today.

It's ain't about "me". It's about "us".

 
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His decision on this might just cost him the election, because a lot of these folks are in Florida and Michigan, two states he definitely needs to win in November.

In that case,those people need to be bitching at their mirrors when they start to spread the blame around about President Hilderbeast sitting in the WH.

 BTW,PLEASE do me a favor and ask them "How do you like THESE apples you helped put in office by not supporting Trump?",and let us know what their whines tell you.

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I have worked on so many projects staffed with folks from India, and I know that these low cost folks bring little to the job.  Also we are outsourcing a lot of development to India, China and the Ukraine, and the only group I thought were productive were the folks in Ukraine.  However, there is additional cost with folks flying back and forth from the Ukraine, and the language differences in working together.

This is what you will ALWAYS end up with when you have Presidents and legislators that are essentially elected by international corporations AND THE AMERICANS THAT WORK FOR THEM AND WANT TO KEEP ALL THAT SWEET MONEY ROLLING IN TO BENEFIT THEM.

The ONLY way to break that chain is to vote for the best interests of the nation,not your personal bank account.

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Due to the greed of the tech power brokers, the USA will ultimately be left behind with China, India or other nations leaving the USA in the dust.  We just do not care about our people in this country any longer.

Complete agreement!

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That is why Trump's certain election is in doubt for me.  His failure to deliver on this one issue proves how he just does not care about the American people, that his stances are nothing more than empty rhetoric.

You can't see the writing on the wall because of one finger being stuck in your eye and your head is stuck up your ass?

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Due to the greed of the tech power brokers, the USA will ultimately be left behind with China, India or other nations leaving the USA in the dust.


Not really. If we end up with a Dim President,America will no longer exist as a free and independent nation 8 years from now. We,and most likely Canada and Mexico,will become something with a name like "The North America Trade Zone",and we will be governed locally be an appointed corporate board that in turn reports to the board of something with a name like "World Wide Government,Inc".

Just wait until you see what THOSE guys pay you and your high-tech buds!

Not that you will need much cash because you will be living free in housing provided by "The Company",and your children will be going to company schools. Providing of course that you behave yourself and are a good little cog in the machine,and they behave themselves in school.

 
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We just do not care about our people in this country any longer.


I know. You can look at the selfish self-interest voting blocks for proof of that.


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That is why Trump's certain election is in doubt for me.  His failure to deliver on this one issue proves how he just does not care about the American people, that his stances are nothing more than empty rhetoric.

Uh,huh.
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