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At this point...I'm of the mid t pul out the Feds and just let the domestic terroristic assholes burn these Liberal sh*tholes burn to the ground.

People voted for the "leadership" that's allowing this to happen...so they should reap the results of their own actions.

While I agree that the voters got the government that they voted for, pulling the feds out would, in my opinion, set a bad precedent because they are FEDERAL officers protecting FEDERAL property.  This has nothing to do with the local voters nor with the local government in spite of the $500/hour fine being leveled by the city against the feds because they put up a fence.

Absolutely agree.  A bad precedent has been set; the anarchists have been allowed to get away with their destruction.  Things should have never been allowed to get out of control.

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Absolutely agree.  A bad precedent has been set; the anarchists have been allowed to get away with their destruction.  Things should have never been allowed to get out of control.

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I agree, but they should have been stopped by the Mayors or Governors of the respective states.

The seminal difference between now and the 60s is that in the 60s the governors did call in the National Guard and shut this crap down.
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bele wrote:
"A bad precedent has been set; the anarchists have been allowed to get away with their destruction.  Things should have never been allowed to get out of control."

To which Joe replied:
"I agree, but they should have been stopped by the Mayors or Governors of the respective states."

Joe, don't you see that this approach cannot work when the "mayors or governors" are ON THE SIDE of the communist insurgents?

It not 3 sides:
1. the insurgents
2. the mayors/governors
3. us

It's JUST TWO.

This is why the ONLY way to stop them is to use "the force we have" -- federal agents and the U.S. Army.

Same as in 1861, except that the communists will become a much more tenacious enemy...

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bele wrote:
"A bad precedent has been set; the anarchists have been allowed to get away with their destruction.  Things should have never been allowed to get out of control."

To which Joe replied:
"I agree, but they should have been stopped by the Mayors or Governors of the respective states."

Joe, don't you see that this approach cannot work when the "mayors or governors" are ON THE SIDE of the communist insurgents?

It not 3 sides:
1. the insurgents
2. the mayors/governors
3. us

It's JUST TWO.

This is why the ONLY way to stop them is to use "the force we have" -- federal agents and the U.S. Army.

Same as in 1861, except that the communists will become a much more tenacious enemy...

Yeah, back them the Democrats just wanted to own other people.
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Yeah, back them the Democrats just wanted to own other people.
Back then, my ancestors defended their land from invasion, best they could.
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Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

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Back then, my ancestors defended their land from invasion, best they could.

I guess we all got burned....
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bele wrote:
"A bad precedent has been set; the anarchists have been allowed to get away with their destruction.  Things should have never been allowed to get out of control."

To which Joe replied:
"I agree, but they should have been stopped by the Mayors or Governors of the respective states."

Joe, don't you see that this approach cannot work when the "mayors or governors" are ON THE SIDE of the communist insurgents?

It not 3 sides:
1. the insurgents
2. the mayors/governors
3. us

It's JUST TWO.

This is why the ONLY way to stop them is to use "the force we have" -- federal agents and the U.S. Army.

Same as in 1861, except that the communists will become a much more tenacious enemy...
1861 had decades of attempted negotiations to prevent the final Well, I agree with you, in that those who were ostensibly the people charged with upholding the law have engaged in some outrageous acts of nonfeasance which indicate they are tacitly, if not overtly, on the side of the rioters. 

They are in egregious violation of their oaths of office, but their removal, short of a declaration of hostilities with the Federal Government, remains a State of Local issue UNTIL the Federal Government is petitioned for aid in the restoration of order and the rule of Law. What form or particulars such a petition would have to assume is beyond my knowledge, but carefully worded, such could go down as one of the seminal documents of American History.

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Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

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The silent majority is officially PISSED OFF!!! Play stupid games win stupid prizes!!!!

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He will just go to mommy and get money for a new one... lol

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Trump can let them destroy local areas all they wants, but there is federal property in a lot of those areas and Trump has every right to defend those properties with any lawful means he chooses.

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That time you’re driving in Virginia and the Attorney General spots a group of people in front of a police precinct showing their support for the police.

AG to FBI Detail: “Can we make a quick U-Turn? I want to jump out and thank those people.”

Watch!

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That time you’re driving in Virginia and the Attorney General spots a group of people in front of a police precinct showing their support for the police.

AG to FBI Detail: “Can we make a quick U-Turn? I want to jump out and thank those people.”

Watch!

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https://twitter.com/KerriKupecDOJ/status/1291530264229945344

I'm surprised Governor Blackface didn't have him arrested for not wearing a mask.
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I'm surprised Governor Blackface didn't have him arrested for not wearing a mask.

 000hehehehe Even Gov. Blackface isn't THAT stupid!
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Trump can let them destroy local areas all they wants, but there is federal property in a lot of those areas and Trump has every right to defend those properties with any lawful means he chooses.
No, it is an obligation he swore to do.
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000hehehehe Even Gov. Blackface isn't THAT stupid!

Not sure I would put money on that... lol

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No, it is an obligation he swore to do.

Actually no where in the Constitution is the President sworn to defend property or protect citizens; his duty is to uphold the Constitution.
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Here's a good way to stop this s--t.

Charge them with potential life sentence.

Protester charged with felony criminal mischief, riot
Several protesters have been arrested for their involvement in a protest against police brutality in Salt Lake City last month.

On July 9, hundreds of demonstrators marched outside the office of Salt Lake County District Attorney Sim Gill after the officers involved in the deadly shooting of Bernardo Palacios were cleared of any wrongdoing.

The demonstration escalated when some people poured paint on the street and the walls of the D.A.’s office. Salt Lake City police eventually confronted protesters.

Tuesday, Madalena McNeil was arrested. She’s charged with felony criminal mischief and riot. Because several people were involved, the charges carry a gang enhancement. That elevates one charge to a first-degree felony carrying a maximum possible punishment of life in prison.


https://www.fox13now.com/news/local-news/protester-charged-with-felony-criminal-mischief-riot
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Actually no where in the Constitution is the President sworn to defend property or protect citizens; his duty is to uphold the Constitution.
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Sorry, Ed, but the Federal Protective Service Mission Statement is not part of the US Constitution.

The clear path I see is to declare ANTIFA a terrorist organization (there are a few others I'd put on that list, but ANTIFA is a great start).  Track their funding and seize it. It is for terrorist or terrorist support activities. Sort their networks, and round up the leaders. Prosecute for conspiracy, for domestic terrorism, etc. There is all that room in the prisons thanks to the COVID releases, fill it.
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C S Lewis

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Sorry, Ed, but the Federal Protective Service Mission Statement is not part of the US Constitution.

The clear path I see is to declare ANTIFA a terrorist organization (there are a few others I'd put on that list, but ANTIFA is a great start).  Track their funding and seize it. It is for terrorist or terrorist support activities. Sort their networks, and round up the leaders. Prosecute for conspiracy, for domestic terrorism, etc. There is all that room in the prisons thanks to the COVID releases, fill it.

Neither is the FAA but it is legally authorized by statute. 

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Neither is the FAA but it is legally authorized by statute.
Back to the President's mission, his oath is to protect and defend the Constitution of the United States...
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Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

C S Lewis

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Back to the President's mission, his oath is to protect and defend the Constitution of the United States...

So, then the president has no obligation for border security, quelling riots or even balancing the budget.. Not in the constitution either

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Actually no where in the Constitution is the President sworn to defend property or protect citizens; his duty is to uphold the Constitution.
Which is exactly what he is doing, defending the Constitution.

And I remind you I spoke of an obligation, not a right.
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So, then the president has no obligation for border security, quelling riots or even balancing the budget.. Not in the constitution either
...to provide for the common defense... is right there in the preamble.

If we went by the Constitution, (Original Intent), the Federal Government would do much less, and balancing the budget would be far easier. Damaging the full faith and credit of the United States by letting a banking cartel manage our money supply isn't exactly in the Constitution. Take that up with the Jekyl Island Crowd who pass out the promissory notes we call "money".

As for quelling riots, the military is constrained by the Posse Comitatus act, even with the NDAA powers.
Quelling riots is first and foremost the responsibility of local and State Governments, and they can call upon the Federal Government for assistance, but have universally FAILED to do so, and abdicated their responsibilities within their own jurisdictions. Short of a 'regime change' within those jurisdictions, the riots will continue, unless the people take matters into their own hands or the Mayors and Governors decide to finally get the situation under control.
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Seventeen Techniques for Truth Suppression

Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

C S Lewis