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Well, the mayor has at least shown some restraint in not having the officers canned as a kneejerk reaction to the video and all the resulting hoopla.  I knew here had to be more to the story than what the video showed and the narrative the media was pushing. 

By the way, I see Fox too is saying the man was "shoved to the ground."  Sorry, but I don't buy that.  Still looks to me like he was barely tapped. 

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Well, the mayor has at least shown some restraint in not having the officers canned as a kneejerk reaction to the video and all the resulting hoopla.  I knew here had to be more to the story than what the video showed and the narrative the media was pushing. 

By the way, I see Fox too is saying the man was "shoved to the ground."  Sorry, but I don't buy that.  Still looks to me like he was barely tapped.
Knocked off balance, sure. But it wasn't a takedown.
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Knocked off balance, sure. But it wasn't a takedown.
Exactly. And his age and (from what I've heard) not-great health may have contributed to his unsteadiness.
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He had been told to move several times.  Seems to me whatever injuries he sustained, he brought upon himself.

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A question, or three.

1. Doesn't this incident prove that it (police ""brutality"") isn't "racist-based"?  That guy was about as white as you can get.

2. What was an old guy like that doing confronting police (in their face)?  If he was that unsteady on his feet, he shouldn't have been out of his abode.  So what was he doing there?

3. What were the approaching police supposed to do.  Pick him up and carry him forward with them???

What is the guy's name?  I'm betting that when his identity is revealed, it will be found that it's an older version of Antifa (old commie community organizer).  Hell, his trip and fall could have even been pre-planned.... but whether or not it was a faked incident, the radical left got what they wanted anyway.   The police force resigned.   They're encouraged now to pull this everywhere.   They now have hope that they can get other police forces to up and quit.
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A question, or three.

1. Doesn't this incident prove that it (police ""brutality"") isn't "racist-based"?  That guy was about as white as you can get.

2. What was an old guy like that doing confronting police (in their face)?  If he was that unsteady on his feet, he shouldn't have been out of his abode.  So what was he doing there?

3. What were the approaching police supposed to do.  Pick him up and carry him forward with them???

What is the guy's name?  I'm betting that when his identity is revealed, it will be found that it's an older version of Antifa (old commie community organizer).  Hell, his trip and fall could have even been pre-planned.... but whether or not it was a faked incident, the radical left got what they wanted anyway.   The police force resigned.   They're encouraged now to pull this everywhere.   They now have hope that they can get other police forces to up and quit.
Martin Gugino is the guy's name. And yes, he's an old activist from the hippie era.
https://www.newsweek.com/protest-martin-gugino-fall-police-1509083
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Martin Gugino is the guy's name. And yes, he's an old activist from the hippie era.
https://www.newsweek.com/protest-martin-gugino-fall-police-1509083

Thank you!

And.... figures.
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When he got to the hospital, did they miss the "fake" blood, too?

It is sure good that the internet crime team is on the job.

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When he got to the hospital, did they miss the "fake" blood, too?

It is sure good that the internet crime team is on the job.

When CBS and Dan Rather were hyping those phony military records of President Bush, I learned not to accept what the media tells me at face value.   I've been reviewing the video of this altercation, stopping and starting it, frame by frame.  I still don't think the incident happened as has been claimed. 

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Buffalo cops caught on video pushing 75-year-old to the ground plead not guilty after mayor described man as 'agitator'
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If you play the video back slowly, stopping and starting it... it clearly shows that the officer that touched him didn't put any force behind that "shove".  Yet the old guy, who was a foot or more taller than the officers, managed to stumble backwards... much delayed after the so-called shove.  Also... why is the agitator's head area blurred in the video after the fall?   What were they trying to cover up?  So many questions.   So much fakery and malicious motivations.   Hmmm.....

Oh...and yet another question.   Who crosses their legs after a supposedly bad fall?   Is this guy a crisis actor?

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2020/06/05/martin-gugino-pushed-ground-buffalo-police-known-peaceful-man/3160820001/

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Knocked off balance, sure. But it wasn't a takedown.

He feigned “off balance” to pull off his stunt. I don’t trust the Left, it’s all psyops, assisted by their partners in this insurrection, the propagandists media, protected by the first amendment.

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He got into it with some protesters before the incident with police. They perceived him as a provocateur.
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There is no excuse for police brutality, but it looks like the old guy that Buffalo PD roughed up was looking for trouble. Another protester says he was looking to get punched in the face and that he even brought a helmet.
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I don't know how to link a video from Twitter, but it's at

https://twitter.com/stillgray/status/1269318996278435841
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This story gets better and better.  Thanks @mountaineer

So he did have a helmet with him, huh?  I guess that explains the story going around that he was merely trying to return a police helmet he found.   Untrue. 

The moral here is don't believe everything you see, hear and read -- especially right after an incident occurs. 

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He got into it with some protesters before the incident with police. They perceived him as a provocateur. I don't know how to link a video from Twitter, but it's at

https://twitter.com/stillgray/status/1269318996278435841

Well there it is.  Proof that the old hippie is, and probably always has been, a trouble-maker.   And for this the entire force quit?   Talk about being played by the left.
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