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Georgia shooting of Ahmaud Arbery spurs outcry
« on: May 07, 2020, 02:20:14 PM »
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Georgia shooting of Ahmaud Arbery spurs outcry
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The case of a black man in Georgia who was fatally shot in February after being pursued by two armed white men is gaining widespread attention among lawmakers, particularly after a graphic video of the incident was released this week.

"Ahmaud Arbery was murdered for being Black," Rep Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, D-N.Y., said in a Thursday morning tweet. "His White assailants were allowed to roam free *for months* after lynching him. They faced no charges, no arrests. Police had video of Ahmaud’s murder the day it happened. His family deserves justice. Our country deserves answers."

Ahmaud Arbery, 25, was killed on Feb. 23 when 64-year-old Gregory McMichael spotted Arbery jogging and called 911 to report a "black man running down the street" and said he suspected the man was involved in recent burglaries. McMichael called his son, Travis. The pair armed themselves, and then tracked Arbery down on the road.

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« Reply #1 on: May 07, 2020, 02:20:38 PM »
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« Reply #2 on: May 07, 2020, 02:26:31 PM »
As soon as people can this much for our white policeman, who are gunned down by people like AHMAN...then I might care.

OR THAT BIGOTED CASE OF LUTHER BY A BLACK JUDGE.  AOC....needs to put behind bars for inciting riots.

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Re: Georgia shooting of Ahmaud Arbery spurs outcry
« Reply #3 on: May 07, 2020, 02:56:13 PM »
Were any stolen items found on his person, or at his resiidence?



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Re: Georgia shooting of Ahmaud Arbery spurs outcry
« Reply #4 on: May 08, 2020, 10:21:26 AM »
Ahmaud Arbery case: Georgia father and son arrested, charged with murder



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« Reply #5 on: May 08, 2020, 10:26:44 AM »
It looks like the racialist parasites are off and running with their issue.

How about we just wait for the investigation and trial?

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« Reply #6 on: May 08, 2020, 12:24:34 PM »
The father and son were attempting a citizens arrest. Under GA law, the one making such an arrest must have witnessed the crime. The father and son did not witness any crime committed by the guy they chased. That makes them the aggressors in an attempted false imprisonment. What they did before the shooting was a criminal assault using deadly force (their vehicle). Therefore the guy who was killed had the right to defend himself with deadly force, regardless of whether or not he had the means.

Love it or hate it, that is why the father and son were indicted, and "murder" would not be over-charging.
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« Reply #7 on: May 10, 2020, 11:44:53 AM »
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Atlanta Mayor Keisha Lance Bottoms compared the shooting death of 25-year-old Ahmaud Arbery in February to lynchings in the Jim Crow-era South and said that President Trump’s rhetoric give racists “permission to do it in an overt way.”
Bottoms’ comments, made during an appearance on CNN’s “State of the Union,” come just days after a white father and son were charged with the February shooting death of Arbery as he was running through a Georgia neighborhood.
“It’s 2020 and this was a lynching of an African-American man,” Bottoms said. “My heart goes out to the family.”
“With the rhetoric we hear coming out of the White House,” she added, “many who are prone to being racist are given permission to do it in an overt way we wouldn’t see in 2020.”https://www.foxnews.com/politics/atlanta-mayor-calls-ahmaud-arbery-killing-a-lynching-says-trumps-rhetoric-gives-racists-permission

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Re: Georgia shooting of Ahmaud Arbery spurs outcry
« Reply #8 on: May 10, 2020, 11:47:42 AM »
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Daily mail has published the full 4 minute video of Ahmaud Avery WALKING* up the street, and then ENTERING a private property which was under construction.

As I said: He didn’t deserve to die but the “just a jogger” narrative was a race-baiting LIE.



Cops review new video of man who appears to be Ahmaud Arbery
The Georgia Bureau of Investigation has confirmed it is investigating additional video footage as part of the Ahmaud Arbery case.
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« Reply #9 on: May 10, 2020, 11:48:25 AM »
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We went from “just a jogger” to “just a trespasser” real quick.
 
That’s because a lie makes it way around the world before the truth gets out of bed.

Our media is despicable.




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Two things can be true at once:

-Ahmaud Arbery did not deserve to die.

-Ahmaud Arbery was not a jogger gunned down for the crime of being black.

It’s that simple. But the media cannot  resist a race narrative in a election cycle. And people struggle to think for themselves.
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« Reply #10 on: May 10, 2020, 11:52:20 AM »
Comments like that from the scoundrel Atlanta mayor make things worse.
Many more whites are murdered by blacks than vice versa.
But nobody knows the names of the whites murdered by blacks because the media rarely reports or blows them up nationally. They're not made a big deal.
For the matter, I think the two white nitwits who stalked and shot the black guy are guilty of at least manslaughter.
But the lib media will pump this case up like they do all others of whites killing blacks.

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« Reply #11 on: May 10, 2020, 11:58:05 AM »
THE TRUTH ABOUT AHMAUD ARBERY
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« Reply #12 on: May 10, 2020, 11:58:33 AM »
And we wonder why so many Trump supporters get upset.....

This is a very very terrible event.  But I'd venture there is more violent black on white crime, if the stats were truly shared.
Why won't the MSM give those events the same coverage?  (Answering my own question)
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« Reply #13 on: May 10, 2020, 11:58:39 AM »
Whatever motivated the shooting - IMO, at this point, I think it was murder - it was not President Trump. OTOH, politicizing this story risks, IMO, inciting riot.
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« Reply #14 on: May 10, 2020, 12:20:16 PM »
Recently another video appeared to show the young man entering a house that was under construction and he was in there for approx 3 minutes. At worst this trespassing. Trespassing is at worst a misdemeanor, if you are reasonably requested to leave and refuse. Clearly not a death penalty offense. I am wondering what the political affiliation is of the father and son. Of course given that it has not been plastered all over the media, maybe I don't have to wonder.
 
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« Reply #15 on: May 10, 2020, 02:01:41 PM »
This is a very very terrible event.  But I'd venture there is more violent black on white crime, if the stats were truly shared.
Why won't the MSM give those events the same coverage?  (Answering my own question)
Blacks murder 400-500 whites annually. Non-Hispanic whites murder about 50 blacks annually. I'm guesstimating because if there were more, we'd hear plenty about it as this case proves. The official stats say whites murder about 250 blacks annually.
The numbers for whites killing blacks are muddled by the fact that the official stats counters count Hispanics as whites. Since many blacks are murdered by Hispanic gang members, that screws up the  numbers.

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« Reply #16 on: May 10, 2020, 02:06:53 PM »
Pam Key 10 May 2020

Sunday on CNN’s “State of the Union,” Atlanta Mayor Keisha Lance Bottoms addressed unarmed black jogger Ahmaud Arbery being chased and shot dead allegedly by two white men, Gregory and Travis McMichael in Georgia on February 23.

Host Jake Tapper said, “The shooting happened back on February 23. Authorities had possession of a now-viral video of the shooting from the beginning. But the murder charges were not filed until this past week after the video emerged online and shocked and outraged millions of Americans. Do you think that the two men were only charged because the video became public?”

Lance Bottoms said, “I think that’s absolutely the reason that they were charged. I think had we not seen that video, I don’t believe that they would be charged. And it’s heartbreaking that it’s 2020. This was a lynching of an African-American man. And I think that, you know, my heart goes out to his family. But I think, again, it’s a part of this bigger issue that we are having in this country with the rhetoric we hear coming out of the White House in so many ways, I think that many who are prone to being racist are given permission to do it in an overt way that we otherwise would not see in 2020.”

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« Reply #17 on: May 10, 2020, 02:07:42 PM »
CNN’s Jake Tapper Does Not Challenge Atlanta Mayor Bottoms For Blaming Trump for Ahmaud Arbery Shooting
https://www.breitbart.com/the-media/2020/05/10/cnns-jake-tapper-does-not-challenge-atlanta-mayor-bottoms-for-blaming-trump-for-ahmaud-arbery-shooting/
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Re: Georgia shooting of Ahmaud Arbery spurs outcry
« Reply #18 on: May 10, 2020, 02:09:41 PM »
Recently another video appeared to show the young man entering a house that was under construction and he was in there for approx 3 minutes. At worst this trespassing. Trespassing is at worst a misdemeanor, if you are reasonably requested to leave and refuse. Clearly not a death penalty offense. I am wondering what the political affiliation is of the father and son. Of course given that it has not been plastered all over the media, maybe I don't have to wonder.
 
The problem for the white father and son is that they instigated the killing by approaching the guy with a loaded weapon.
You're running down the road and two people jump out of a car and approach you with a loaded weapon. You weren't doing anything wrong...just running.
It doesn't matter than the guy tried to wrestle the gun out of one of the whites' hands. He had no idea what they were going to do.
Not being duly authorized leos they had no business stopping someone and aiming a loaded weapon at him just because they thought he resembled a criminal.

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« Reply #19 on: May 10, 2020, 02:20:48 PM »
The use of deadly force is only legal to stop the abuse of deadly force.
You don't shoot someone for stealing a TV or 2x4.. that is murder no matter what colors are involved.

On a side note, not one person has condemned the slander against Trump.... interesting...

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« Reply #20 on: May 10, 2020, 02:30:15 PM »
Blacks murder 400-500 whites annually. Non-Hispanic whites murder about 50 blacks annually. I'm guesstimating because if there were more, we'd hear plenty about it as this case proves. The official stats say whites murder about 250 blacks annually.
The numbers for whites killing blacks are muddled by the fact that the official stats counters count Hispanics as whites. Since many blacks are murdered by Hispanic gang members, that screws up the  numbers.

My understanding is that most murders are intraracial —meaning the perpetrator and victim are of the same race. Those murders include so called crimes of passion and murder suicides but also drug related murders.

I know for example that the horrific murder rates in my former home town of Baltimore, the vast majority are black on black murders having to do with gang bangers and drugs and drug turfs wars. But in places, in many of the big cities like Baltimore, the vast majority of the drug trade – those dealing and buying are black.

Here in York PA where I current live however, the inner city of York were most crimes and murders occur, the demographics of the “inner city poor” and crimes including murder is pretty evenly spread among blacks, whites and Hispanics as both perpetrators and victims, but again mostly related to the drug trade and turf wars.

According to this article from 2016:

https://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2016-09-29/race-and-homicide-in-america-by-the-numbers

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The number of black people who killed whites and the number of whites who killed blacks climbed to levels not seen since 2008, accounting last year for their largest percentages of U.S. homicides of black and white victims since at least the start of the century, according to the crime data.

The statistics show that the 500 killings of white people attributed to blacks last year were the most since black perpetrators were determined to be responsible for the homicides of 504 white people nationwide in 2008. Last year's total was up 12 percent from the 446 recorded in 2014 and 22 percent from the 409 seen in 2013, a year that saw the lowest total this century and one that capped seven years of general declines in black-on-white homicides. Prior to that, 2006 saw the most black-on-white killings since 2001, with 573.

The 229 black lives taken by white killers last year, however, marked an even larger leap from 2014, jumping more than 22 percent from the 187 black victims killed by whites that year, which was the second-lowest total since 2001. The tally was last exceeded in 2008, when 230 blacks were slain by whites. The highest total in the last 15 years came in 2007, when 245 black people were killed by whites.
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« Reply #21 on: May 10, 2020, 02:33:01 PM »
Blacks murder 400-500 whites annually. Non-Hispanic whites murder about 50 blacks annually. I'm guesstimating because if there were more, we'd hear plenty about it as this case proves. The official stats say whites murder about 250 blacks annually.
The numbers for whites killing blacks are muddled by the fact that the official stats counters count Hispanics as whites. Since many blacks are murdered by Hispanic gang members, that screws up the  numbers.

What happened to Mr Abrery is an individual tragedy, in this case he deserves our sympathies and is deserving of the fullest and fairest application of the law it is possible to provide.

As do any of the other X 100s of people killed at the hands of others in this country every year, regardless of race.

That aside, it is unfortunate that the media and certain politicians have decided some killings in this country are more deserving of our attention and our sympathies than are others.  Especially so when clearly their purpose is to instigate hate and resentment.
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« Reply #22 on: May 10, 2020, 02:35:55 PM »
The use of deadly force is only legal to stop the abuse of deadly force.
You don't shoot someone for stealing a TV or 2x4.. that is murder no matter what colors are involved.

On a side note, not one person has condemned the slander against Trump.... interesting...

Trump called the incident disturbing from the outset.

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« Reply #24 on: May 10, 2020, 02:54:25 PM »
What happened to Mr Abrery is an individual tragedy, in this case he deserves our sympathies and is deserving of the fullest and fairest application of the law it is possible to provide.

As do any of the other X 100s of people killed at the hands of others in this country every year, regardless of race.

That aside, it is unfortunate that the media and certain politicians have decided some killings in this country are more deserving of our attention and our sympathies than are others.

I agree. Absolutely.

However, this shooting resulting in a death took place on February 23rd.

The first prosecutor recused herself, pointing out that Gregory McMichael, a former Glynn County police officer, had been a longtime investigator in her office until his retirement last May.

Then a second prosecutor then finds no reason to charge citing insufficient cause to arrest Mr. Arbery’s pursuers. He argued that they had acted legally under Georgia’s citizen arrest and self-defense laws. But he too then recused himself from the case because but only after it was learned that his son had worked in the Brunswick prosecutor’s office with Gregory McMichael.

It seems that there was perhaps an early effort to not further investigate or prosecute the case based on personal biases and professional acquaintances. Not unheard of in small towns and communities.

This has only really come to light on a national level just in the last week, after the video of the shooting was released, obsensivly by a lawyer of the shooters but not their "official lawyer" who though the video would exonorate his friends.

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