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Putting Jared Kushner In Charge Is Utter Madness
« on: April 03, 2020, 05:15:35 am »
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/02/opinion/jared-kushner-coronavirus.html

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According to Sherman, when New York’s governor, Andrew Cuomo, said that the state would need 30,000 ventilators at the apex of the coronavirus outbreak, Kushner decided that Cuomo was being alarmist. “I have all this data about I.C.U. capacity,” Kushner reportedly said. “I’m doing my own projections, and I’ve gotten a lot smarter about this. New York doesn’t need all the ventilators.” (Dr. Anthony Fauci, the country’s top expert on infectious diseases, has said he trusts Cuomo’s estimate.)

Even now, it’s hard to believe that someone with as little expertise as Kushner could be so arrogant, but he said something similar on Thursday, when he made his debut at the White House’s daily coronavirus briefing: “People who have requests for different products and supplies, a lot of them are doing it based on projections which are not the realistic projections.”

Kushner has succeeded at exactly three things in his life. He was born to the right parents, married well and learned how to influence his father-in-law. Most of his other endeavors — his biggest real estate deal, his foray into newspaper ownership, his attempt to broker a peace deal between the Israelis and the Palestinians — have been failures.

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There is video of Kuschner all over twitter from today where he says "The notion of the federal stockpile was it's supposed to be our stockpile. It's not supposed to be states stockpiles that they then use."

IT'S A NATIONAL CRISIS JARED   :nono:

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Jared didn't buy his way into Harvard to listen to your stupid governor's demands for "live-saving medical supplies". That's HIS stockpile.

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Re: Jared Kushner Is Going to Get Us All Killed
« Reply #1 on: April 03, 2020, 05:37:01 am »
Oy vavoy.  So much venom toward such a smart, rich, white, Jewish boy, Ms. Goldberg.  I'm guessing he lost your phone number.   :smokin:

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Re: Jared Kushner Is Going to Get Us All Killed
« Reply #2 on: April 03, 2020, 05:39:54 am »
All? That's a pretty tall order.
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Re: Jared Kushner Is Going to Get Us All Killed
« Reply #3 on: April 03, 2020, 05:43:04 am »
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/02/opinion/jared-kushner-coronavirus.html

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There is video of Kuschner all over twitter from today where he says "The notion of the federal stockpile was it's supposed to be our stockpile. It's not supposed to be states stockpiles that they then use."

IT'S A NATIONAL CRISIS JARED   :nono:

Tommy Vietor @TVietor08
Jared didn't buy his way into Harvard to listen to your stupid governor's demands for "live-saving medical supplies". That's HIS stockpile.
Somewhere on this site is a timeline of when the fun folks in Noo Yawk neglected to stockpile the medical supplies they were short of the last time there was an outbreak of contagious disease. On multiple occasions, they failed to look out for the citizens of NYC and the State, and now they want to blame that on the Federal Government?

What happened to the money that was supposed to go to medical supplies? Who used that, directly or indirectly to get reelected?
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Seventeen Techniques for Truth Suppression

Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

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Re: Jared Kushner Is Going to Get Us All Killed
« Reply #4 on: April 03, 2020, 04:23:53 pm »
Somewhere on this site is a timeline of when the fun folks in Noo Yawk neglected to stockpile the medical supplies they were short of the last time there was an outbreak of contagious disease. On multiple occasions, they failed to look out for the citizens of NYC and the State, and now they want to blame that on the Federal Government?

What happened to the money that was supposed to go to medical supplies? Who used that, directly or indirectly to get reelected?

Ask and ye shall receive, @Smokin Joe: https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/national-international/new-york-modeled-a-pandemic-and-found-a-15000-ventilator-shortfall-2/2331057/

New York Modeled A Pandemic and Found a 15,000 Ventilator Shortfall
By Tom Winter   â€¢ Published March 17, 2020   â€¢ Updated on March 17, 2020 at 12:07 pm

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A study that modeled what a pandemic would look like in New York found that the state might face a significant shortfall in ventilators, with many of the deaths relating to the pandemic happening in hospital.

But the year was not 2020. It was 2015 and the virus was fictitious one modeled as part of a study into what would happen in New York under a pandemic conducted by the New York State Task Force on Life and the Law.
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Using a “severe scenario” modeling the 1918 ‘Spanish Flu’ the state determined there would be a ventilator shortfall of 15,783 during the peak of the pandemic .

So whether or not Jared knew it, Goobernor Cuomo pulled a spectacular number out of his rectum that was nearly double what the State of New York's task force had said would be needed for the peak of a worst-case model. The study to which the NBC article refers was released in late 2015, so the State of new York failed to buy what it knew were needed. New York did not buy the ventilators in 2016. New York did not buy the ventilators in 2017. New York did not buy the ventilators in 2018. New York did not buy the ventilators in 2019.

And then when the Feds sent NY several thousand ventilators, the State of New York placed them in stockpiles, because they were not yet needed. https://nypost.com/2020/03/27/coronavirus-in-ny-cuomo-defends-need-for-30k-ventilators-after-trump-called-it-overblown/ That move makes logistical sense, but it demonstrates that Cuomo was basing his demand on false urgency.

ETA: BTW, Jared Kushner is not "in charge" of the Trump Administration response to this coronavirus. Jared Kushner, last I checked, is not a member of the White House Coronavirus Response Task Force, let alone it head. So the NYT article's title is a straw man argument, fundamentally dishonest.
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If, as anti-Covid-vaxxers claim, https://www.poynter.org/fact-checking/2021/robert-f-kennedy-jr-said-the-covid-19-vaccine-is-the-deadliest-vaccine-ever-made-thats-not-true/ , https://gospelnewsnetwork.org/2021/11/23/covid-shots-are-the-deadliest-vaccines-in-medical-history/ , The Vaccine is deadly, where in the US have Pfizer and Moderna hidden the millions of bodies of those who died of "vaccine injury"? Is reality a Big Pharma Shill?

Millions now living should have died. Anti-Covid-Vaxxer ghouls hardest hit.

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Re: Jared Kushner Is Going to Get Us All Killed
« Reply #5 on: April 03, 2020, 04:56:47 pm »
Ask and ye shall receive, @Smokin Joe: https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/national-international/new-york-modeled-a-pandemic-and-found-a-15000-ventilator-shortfall-2/2331057/

New York Modeled A Pandemic and Found a 15,000 Ventilator Shortfall
By Tom Winter   â€¢ Published March 17, 2020   â€¢ Updated on March 17, 2020 at 12:07 pm

So whether or not Jared knew it, Goobernor Cuomo pulled a spectacular number out of his rectum that was nearly double what the State of New York's task force had said would be needed for the peak of a worst-case model. The study to which the NBC article refers was released in late 2015, so the State of new York failed to buy what it knew were needed. New York did not buy the ventilators in 2016. New York did not buy the ventilators in 2017. New York did not buy the ventilators in 2018. New York did not buy the ventilators in 2019.

And then when the Feds sent NY several thousand ventilators, the State of New York placed them in stockpiles, because they were not yet needed. https://nypost.com/2020/03/27/coronavirus-in-ny-cuomo-defends-need-for-30k-ventilators-after-trump-called-it-overblown/ That move makes logistical sense, but it demonstrates that Cuomo was basing his demand on false urgency.

ETA: BTW, Jared Kushner is not "in charge" of the Trump Administration response to this coronavirus. Jared Kushner, last I checked, is not a member of the White House Coronavirus Response Task Force, let alone it head. So the NYT article's title is a straw man argument, fundamentally dishonest.
Thanks, @PeteS in CA !

I have read so many articles and bookmarked too few, but that's the stuff I was looking for! :beer:
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Re: Jared Kushner Is Going to Get Us All Killed
« Reply #6 on: April 03, 2020, 05:23:01 pm »
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I have read so many articles and bookmarked too few, but that's the stuff I was looking for! :beer:

You should see the ever-growing file I have with coronavirus-related stuff. I knew back in February or even January that this would be Katrina-ized and started collecting stuff, a dangerous thing for an info-packrat like me tri22 .
If, as anti-Covid-vaxxers claim, https://www.poynter.org/fact-checking/2021/robert-f-kennedy-jr-said-the-covid-19-vaccine-is-the-deadliest-vaccine-ever-made-thats-not-true/ , https://gospelnewsnetwork.org/2021/11/23/covid-shots-are-the-deadliest-vaccines-in-medical-history/ , The Vaccine is deadly, where in the US have Pfizer and Moderna hidden the millions of bodies of those who died of "vaccine injury"? Is reality a Big Pharma Shill?

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Re: Putting Jared Kushner In Charge Is Utter Madness
« Reply #7 on: April 03, 2020, 05:33:30 pm »
Strategic National Stockpile description altered online after Kushner's remarks
The government website for the emergency repository appears to have been updated this morning.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/04/03/strategic-national-stockpile-description-altered-after-kushners-remarks-163181


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Re: Jared Kushner Is Going to Get Us All Killed
« Reply #8 on: April 03, 2020, 05:42:41 pm »
Ask and ye shall receive, @Smokin Joe: https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/national-international/new-york-modeled-a-pandemic-and-found-a-15000-ventilator-shortfall-2/2331057/

New York Modeled A Pandemic and Found a 15,000 Ventilator Shortfall
By Tom Winter   â€¢ Published March 17, 2020   â€¢ Updated on March 17, 2020 at 12:07 pm

So whether or not Jared knew it, Goobernor Cuomo pulled a spectacular number out of his rectum that was nearly double what the State of New York's task force had said would be needed for the peak of a worst-case model. The study to which the NBC article refers was released in late 2015, so the State of new York failed to buy what it knew were needed. New York did not buy the ventilators in 2016. New York did not buy the ventilators in 2017. New York did not buy the ventilators in 2018. New York did not buy the ventilators in 2019.

And then when the Feds sent NY several thousand ventilators, the State of New York placed them in stockpiles, because they were not yet needed. https://nypost.com/2020/03/27/coronavirus-in-ny-cuomo-defends-need-for-30k-ventilators-after-trump-called-it-overblown/ That move makes logistical sense, but it demonstrates that Cuomo was basing his demand on false urgency.

ETA: BTW, Jared Kushner is not "in charge" of the Trump Administration response to this coronavirus. Jared Kushner, last I checked, is not a member of the White House Coronavirus Response Task Force, let alone it head. So the NYT article's title is a straw man argument, fundamentally dishonest.

Kushner is working under the direction of Mike Pence who IS a member of the WH Coronavirus Response Task Force -- Kushner attended the press conference yesterday and answered questions from the press and laid out his role to the task force and what he is doing.  Period.
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Re: Putting Jared Kushner In Charge Is Utter Madness
« Reply #9 on: April 03, 2020, 05:47:59 pm »
Strategic National Stockpile description altered online after Kushner's remarks
The government website for the emergency repository appears to have been updated this morning.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/04/03/strategic-national-stockpile-description-altered-after-kushners-remarks-163181

How is this relevant? Kushner is not in charge of anything coronavirus-related. Further, the change is just a rewording with the same basic meaning, so even if Kushner's irrelevance is ignored, so what? Is every rewording of every Federal webpage suddenly scandal-fodder?

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« Last Edit: April 03, 2020, 05:48:53 pm by PeteS in CA »
If, as anti-Covid-vaxxers claim, https://www.poynter.org/fact-checking/2021/robert-f-kennedy-jr-said-the-covid-19-vaccine-is-the-deadliest-vaccine-ever-made-thats-not-true/ , https://gospelnewsnetwork.org/2021/11/23/covid-shots-are-the-deadliest-vaccines-in-medical-history/ , The Vaccine is deadly, where in the US have Pfizer and Moderna hidden the millions of bodies of those who died of "vaccine injury"? Is reality a Big Pharma Shill?

Millions now living should have died. Anti-Covid-Vaxxer ghouls hardest hit.

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Re: Putting Jared Kushner In Charge Is Utter Madness
« Reply #10 on: April 03, 2020, 05:51:27 pm »
Nothing rallies the men around here more than beating up Jared Kushner.

Bless their hearts.   :laugh:

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Re: Putting Jared Kushner In Charge Is Utter Madness
« Reply #11 on: April 03, 2020, 10:05:09 pm »
Nothing rallies the men around here more than beating up Jared Kushner.

Bless their hearts.   :laugh:

So, MSM lies should go unanswered if Jared Kushner is the lies' target? *****rollingeyes*****
If, as anti-Covid-vaxxers claim, https://www.poynter.org/fact-checking/2021/robert-f-kennedy-jr-said-the-covid-19-vaccine-is-the-deadliest-vaccine-ever-made-thats-not-true/ , https://gospelnewsnetwork.org/2021/11/23/covid-shots-are-the-deadliest-vaccines-in-medical-history/ , The Vaccine is deadly, where in the US have Pfizer and Moderna hidden the millions of bodies of those who died of "vaccine injury"? Is reality a Big Pharma Shill?

Millions now living should have died. Anti-Covid-Vaxxer ghouls hardest hit.

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Re: Putting Jared Kushner In Charge Is Utter Madness
« Reply #12 on: April 03, 2020, 10:36:57 pm »
So, MSM lies should go unanswered if Jared Kushner is the lies' target? *****rollingeyes*****

What has your post got to do with my comment @PeteS in CA  .... And why are you trying so hard to start an argument with me today?

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Re: Putting Jared Kushner In Charge Is Utter Madness
« Reply #13 on: April 03, 2020, 10:46:33 pm »
What has your post got to do with my comment @PeteS in CA  .... And why are you trying so hard to start an argument with me today?

1. This comment wasn't criticizing people pointing out the OP article's lie concerning Kushner?
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Nothing rallies the men around here more than beating up Jared Kushner.

Bless their hearts.
Please explain.

2. I did not pay particular attention to who had made the comment. Because I responded to the comment.

3. I guess you missed this post, http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,396860.msg2183032.html#msg2183032 .
« Last Edit: April 03, 2020, 10:53:31 pm by PeteS in CA »
If, as anti-Covid-vaxxers claim, https://www.poynter.org/fact-checking/2021/robert-f-kennedy-jr-said-the-covid-19-vaccine-is-the-deadliest-vaccine-ever-made-thats-not-true/ , https://gospelnewsnetwork.org/2021/11/23/covid-shots-are-the-deadliest-vaccines-in-medical-history/ , The Vaccine is deadly, where in the US have Pfizer and Moderna hidden the millions of bodies of those who died of "vaccine injury"? Is reality a Big Pharma Shill?

Millions now living should have died. Anti-Covid-Vaxxer ghouls hardest hit.