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Re: Calm Down, Breathe Through Your Nose - Covid19 NO BIG DEAL
« Reply #25 on: March 13, 2020, 10:12:47 pm »
Call it fake news if you want.

We don't need to have happen to us, what has happened to Iran, Italy or China.

Sometimes, you have to learn from others.

No country, not Russia, the UK, no one is taking this lightly.

H1N1,  ah, yes, 2009  and people like Cotton talk about it and Cruz self-isolates. So, their voices mean something too.

H1N1, not on the sign.

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« Reply #26 on: March 13, 2020, 10:26:13 pm »
Everyone is panicking. What if you have a regular normal 24 hour bug but you’re afraid it’s something more sinister?

Find the symptoms of Coronavirus such as dry cough and breathlesnes. I saw a chart on how it compares to flu.

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« Reply #27 on: March 13, 2020, 10:55:04 pm »
Call it fake news if you want.



No one here is calling it fake.  No one here is saying it isn't serious.  What it is is a hysteric panic that you have helped pertpetuate.  You've taken the dim and MSM narrative, like a hook and sinker.  This week my wife and I both visited our physcians for physicals, and they pretty much echo what I am saying on thisi post. 

Good common sense public health measures should be in effect, with focus and resources directed mostly toward those who are elderly and /or with pre-existing conditons.  Yes, sadly some people will die who are mostly in the two groups I mentioned.  Including potentially me, who is 63.  Am I taking common sense precautions....Yes.  Should everyone else?  Yes.   But OTOH, shutting down our economy will do much more hardship and damage to our society than this virus.
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Re: Calm Down, Breathe Through Your Nose - Covid19 NO BIG DEAL
« Reply #28 on: March 14, 2020, 03:34:07 am »
Corona is more severe than the flu. 

Than what you and I are used to as flu absolutely.  More severe than the 1918 flu?  That's not so clear.  Right now Covid-19 has a mortality rate among those identified as having it of about 2.8%.  To be as deadly as the 1918 flu, everyone on the face of the globe will have to come down with it.  It might happen, but seems unlikely.
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« Reply #29 on: March 14, 2020, 03:52:21 am »
Exactly Dr. Wolf.  Sad that the dims and their complicit MSM would stoop so low to destroy our economy to get Trump out of office.

If people just realize we have a better chance of rebuilding a panic/pandemic damaged economy under the current administration than any of the proposed alternatives so far, I don't think this will work in the Communists/Socialists/Leftists/Progressives/fellow travelers & useful idiots favor.
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« Reply #30 on: March 14, 2020, 04:05:22 am »
Than what you and I are used to as flu absolutely.  More severe than the 1918 flu?  That's not so clear.  Right now Covid-19 has a mortality rate among those identified as having it of about 2.8%.  To be as deadly as the 1918 flu, everyone on the face of the globe will have to come down with it.  It might happen, but seems unlikely.

If the reports are coming out of China are accurate, their cases are declining, so that is a bit of good news.  Keep in mind, that in 1918, people didn't live close to each other in cities like we do now.  That is the concern.  In my county cases are continuing to double every day.
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Re: Calm Down, Breathe Through Your Nose - Covid19 NO BIG DEAL
« Reply #31 on: March 14, 2020, 04:17:13 am »
Already heard this from Q friend.  Feeding conspiracy that this was a Rothchild manipulation.
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« Reply #32 on: March 14, 2020, 04:50:13 am »
Exactly Dr. Wolf.  Sad that the dims and their complict MSM would stoop so low to destroy our economy to get Trump out of office.

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« Reply #33 on: March 14, 2020, 06:12:46 am »
This post didn't age well... Corona needs to be taken seriously because the virus has several factors in it that help it's spread... and so far we don't know how many of them are not fully known... Factors like the life span on surfaces has been reported longer than expected... the ability for normally healthy looking folks to be carriers... the number of mutations of this virus... whether you can get it more than once... stuff I pointed out several times and basically got ignored...
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« Reply #34 on: March 14, 2020, 07:47:53 am »
SIGN ON A DOCTOR'S OFFICE

Every election year has a disease

SARS   2004
AVIAN   2008
SWINE  2010
MERS   2012
EBOLA  2014
ZIKA  2016
EBOLA 2018
CORONA 2020 

FACTS

Coronavirus has a contagion factor of 2.  Sars was 4.  Measles is 18.
Coronavirus has a cure rate of 99.7% for those under 50 it infects. 
Coronavirus spread is leveling off.

This is a viral pneumonia being hyped as the Black Plague before an election.

Partly false claim: “Every election year has a disease”

https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-election-year-diseases/partly-false-claim-every-election-year-has-a-disease-idUSKBN20S2X0

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/mar/11/facebook-posts/no-connection-between-us-national-elections-and-in/

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https://healthfeedback.org/claimreview/no-not-every-u-s-election-year-has-had-a-disease-outbreak-and-covid-19-transmissibility-is-unconfirmed/
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« Reply #35 on: March 14, 2020, 07:51:44 am »
What it is is a hysteric panic that you have helped pertpetuate.  You've taken the dim and MSM narrative, like a hook and sinker. 
I really like @catfish1957 but I don't think @TomSea is responsible for our collapsing economy.

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« Reply #36 on: March 14, 2020, 07:55:19 am »
Should have been more fear for Ebola than this event.  Now that is a scary contagin.

Ebola is scary. It is highly infectious and has a high case fatality rate (CFR). However, it is not highly contagious. And there is a difference. In order to contract Ebola, you have to come in direct contact with the bodily fluids of an infected person - urine, saliva, sweat, feces, vomit, breast milk, and semen. A person can only spread Ebola to other people after they develop signs and symptoms of Ebola. It is not a respiratory disease and therefore not spread by coughing or sneezing such as colds, influenza or COVID-19 and those can be passed on to others by people who are asymptomatic.
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Re: Calm Down, Breathe Through Your Nose - Covid19 NO BIG DEAL
« Reply #37 on: March 14, 2020, 11:12:56 am »
I really like @catfish1957 but I don't think @TomSea is responsible for our collapsing economy.

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Brilliant play but Cordelia died! :(

Btw, I’m pretty sure my tri state area will go to quarantines too soon. I hope I’m wrong.
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« Reply #38 on: March 14, 2020, 11:46:50 am »
I really like @catfish1957 but I don't think @TomSea is responsible for our collapsing economy.

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« Reply #40 on: March 14, 2020, 12:33:25 pm »
No one here is calling it fake.  No one here is saying it isn't serious. 

Hmmm, the title of this thread is "Calm Down, Breathe Through Your Nose - Covid19 NO BIG DEAL" it appears the author is not taking the virus seriously.

Numbers from China and Iran can not be trusted. The numbers coming from Italy (a modern, western nation) look bad so I think it would be a good idea to take this very seriously, particularly if you are over 50 or if you have health issues. This is not the flu and it is not a common cold. We will know in a few weeks that exactly we are dealing with. Until then it is wise to be cautious.

Curious how does breathing thru your noise prevent a virus from infecting you? Nasal hairs catch large particles not tiny viruses.
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« Reply #41 on: March 14, 2020, 12:38:25 pm »
Did @TomSea post the story about 250 people dying in Italy last night?  Coronavirus in Italy is like ‘a world war’ as death toll soars https://nypost.com/2020/03/13/coronavirus-in-italy-is-like-a-world-war-as-death-toll-soars/

Ignorance is bliss.

250?  Yes, and that is sad.  Again, though what was the demographic?  The very old, and the very ill are very susceptible. 

p.s., not sounding callous, as I am old myself.   On another thread, I noted that I thought  the whole mess has been mis-directed, by not moblizing resources toward those most a risk. 

BTW...  Do you also realize that about 3,000 people in the U.S. have died this year's flu season?
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« Reply #42 on: March 14, 2020, 01:46:28 pm »
250?  Yes, and that is sad.  Again, though what was the demographic?  The very old, and the very ill are very susceptible. 

p.s., not sounding callous, as I am old myself.   On another thread, I noted that I thought  the whole mess has been mis-directed, by not moblizing resources toward those most a risk. 

BTW...  Do you also realize that about 3,000 people in the U.S. have died this year's flu season?

22K deaths this season.  We agree on the underlying facts.  You do sound callous, but you are not my President. 

The problem is the message, attitude, and response of my President.  I think he sucks at crises because he is a Narcissistic sociopath and has no personal experience with human emotions like sympathy, empathy or respect for people as valuable in and of themselves, even when they couldn't satiate his desire for sexual gratification, ego-stroking, wealth production, or power.

I pray I'm wrong, but I think the deaths are just starting now, and it will be hundreds if not thousands, because of the delay in taking it seriously.

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« Reply #43 on: March 14, 2020, 03:39:39 pm »
One of the articles I read said the virus can mutate... it can go the way of the common cold and get weaker or it could mutate and get more deadlier.

I don't know how much that should influence how we look at this. What if it mutated and got deadlier. What are the chances of it doing something like that? What if the chance of it doing that is even?

It certainly seems like something that is not good to have in the general population, to spread at a basketball game or however.

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« Reply #44 on: March 14, 2020, 04:33:07 pm »
Hmmm, the title of this thread is "Calm Down, Breathe Through Your Nose - Covid19 NO BIG DEAL" it appears the author is not taking the virus seriously.

40 Americans dead to date.  Panic all you want.  2017-2018 flu killed 80,000 Americans.  How did you act two years ago? Did YOU take that "seriously"?  No.


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Until then it is wise to be cautious.

Panicking and buying oversupplies of toilet paper, water and food is not "caution." It is silliness prompted by Fake News.


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Curious how does breathing thru your noise prevent a virus from infecting you? Nasal hairs catch large particles not tiny viruses.

My but aren't you clever.  "Breathe through your nose" is a phrase meant to convey calm, rather than panic, when people hyperventilate and breathe through their open mouths.  Why don't you look up the etiology. I already know what it means.
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« Reply #45 on: March 14, 2020, 04:37:56 pm »
One of the articles I read said the virus can mutate... it can go the way of the common cold and get weaker or it could mutate and get more deadlier.

Oh my !! If it gets any "more deadlier" that will be "more scarier"!  40 people dead so far when the 2017-2018 flu killed 80,000. 

Do you even understand what "mutate" means?   Pathogens which are said to "develop resistance" were already resistant to antimicrobial drugs.  They simply multiplied as those NOT resistant died off.

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I don't know how much that should influence how we look at this. What if it mutated and got deadlier. What are the chances of it doing something like that? What if the chance of it doing that is even?

What if the fatality rate went from 0.7%, as it currently is in South Korea where they have done extensive testing, to 1.4%!

Wouldn't that be more scarier and more deadlier.  200 Americans could die instead of the 80,000 who died of flu in 2017-2018.
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« Reply #46 on: March 14, 2020, 04:52:35 pm »
One of the articles I read said the virus can mutate... it can go the way of the common cold and get weaker or it could mutate and get more deadlier.

I don't know how much that should influence how we look at this. What if it mutated and got deadlier. What are the chances of it doing something like that? What if the chance of it doing that is even?

It certainly seems like something that is not good to have in the general population, to spread at a basketball game or however.
ANY virus can mutate, from Ebola to the common cold.

Influenza mutates commonly, so commonly that the vaccines proffered each year contain varying hemagglutinin (H) and neuraminidase (N) subtypes, sometimes successfully anticipating that year's subtypes, sometimes not.

In most viral outbreaks, the mutations have been away from more deadly to more contagious forms.

The first person to die in the US, was in Washington State, two weeks ago. Forty nine have died as of this morning, over half related to that facility in Washington.

To put that in perspective, in the US in the same time, some 240 people have been killed in pedestrian/vehicle accidents:

You are roughly 5 times more likely to die crossing the street.

In that time period, using average numbers, 1530 people have died in car accidents.

You are 50 times more likely to get killed driving to the store looking for toilet paper or bottled water than of the virus.

No one in the US under 40 has died of the virus.

Now being in the under 40 age group is a dim memory for me, but I remain unconcerned because of the virus itself, and far more worried about the effects of the ginned up panic over it.

It is inherently obvious that there are political motivations to destroy the economy, crash the markets and generally cause pain to people in America, that can and will be used for political purposes.

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« Reply #47 on: March 14, 2020, 04:53:31 pm »
40 Americans dead to date.  Panic all you want.  2017-2018 flu killed 80,000 Americans.  How did you act two years ago? Did YOU take that "seriously"?  No.


Panicking and buying oversupplies of toilet paper, water and food is not "caution." It is silliness prompted by Fake News.


My but aren't you clever.  "Breathe through your nose" is a phrase meant to convey calm, rather than panic, when people hyperventilate and breathe through their open mouths.  Why don't you look up the etiology. I already know what it means.

Yes, but....it just proves how easy it is for the deep state elitists to "herd" the morons into doing whatever they want them to do.   That's the really scary part.   That this is probably just a run-up to what 'else' they plan on testing.
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« Reply #48 on: March 14, 2020, 05:45:56 pm »
Yes, but....it just proves how easy it is for the deep state elitists to "herd" the morons into doing whatever they want them to do.   That's the really scary part.   That this is probably just a run-up to what 'else' they plan on testing.

Maybe the tinfoil brigade can point to us as to what country is not taking actions? Canada? Nope, Russia? Nope. Australia? Nope... Poland? Nope. Doesn't seem to fit in to the conspiracy.

"DeBlasio, NYC schools to stay open",  well, how about that, the heart of liberalism isn't exercising control here.
https://www.usnews.com/news/education-news/articles/2020-03-14/bill-de-blasio-new-york-city-schools-to-stay-open-for-now

Just fun to say, this is an attempt to control our lives.

To play the Devil's advocate, tin foil conspiracies could also say, these views benefit Beijing, it kind of takes them off the hook for spreading this disease in the first place and their government hiding what they knew or at least, what they were told.

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« Reply #49 on: March 14, 2020, 05:52:20 pm »
"Disinformation" is a mark of Communist propagandists, I certainly do not call anyone that... but sometimes, we must be alert to what we hear,

As shown, China has come out with conspiracies blaming the US which of course, we know is a joke. Undoubtedly some, are blaming the Deep State and Feds and Elites. I'm not sure if it adds up.