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Virginia lawmakers reject Northam's assault-weapons ban, as Dems balk

By Tyler Olson | Fox News

A bill backed by Gov. Ralph Northam that would ban the sale of assault-style weapons in Virginia failed on a committee vote Monday morning, setting back one of the biggest priorities for the newly minted Democrat-controlled government in the state.

A crowd of gun-rights activists packed into the committee room cheered as the vote came in, with four moderate Democrats joining Republicans to shelve the bill until next year. Heated exchanges over guns have dominated this year's legislative session. They were also a key topic of last year's legislative elections – particularly after a mass shooting in Virginia Beach claimed a dozen lives – and gun control groups heavily funded Democratic candidates.

Gun-rights protesters have been out in force for weeks in Richmond, Va., the state's capital, over Democrats' gun control agenda.

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Re: Virginia lawmakers reject Northam's assault-weapons ban, as Dems balk
« Reply #1 on: February 17, 2020, 05:21:03 pm »
This is just a reprieve, not a pardon.

The bill will be shelved for study until next year.

IOW, the legislature has reserved the right to revisit this same bill. It isn't over, it just isn't going to happen now.
This means proponents have a year to push their agenda, use the media to try and convince gun owners (and others) they are somehow wrong, and turn the tide of public opinion against a class of inert objects.
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Re: Virginia lawmakers reject Northam's assault-weapons ban, as Dems balk
« Reply #2 on: February 17, 2020, 09:42:10 pm »
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Re: Virginia lawmakers reject Northam's assault-weapons ban, as Dems balk
« Reply #3 on: February 18, 2020, 06:31:16 pm »
Bill to ban sale of assault-style weapons dies in Va. state Senate committee

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An assault weapons ban, one of several Virginia bills that prompted armed protests at the state Capitol earlier this year, died in committee Monday despite the backing of Gov. Ralph Northam (D) and the legislature’s Democratic majority.

Three Democrats, state Sens. Creigh Deeds, Chap Petersen and John Edwards, joined Republicans on the Senate Judiciary Committee to reject the bill, sending it back to the state’s Crime Commission in a 10-5 vote, The Washington Post reported. Sen. L. Louise Lucas (D) audibly referred to the three as a “bunch of wimps” from the dais.

The bill would have prohibited the sale or transfer of such weapons as of July 1, a compromise from an earlier version that would also have banned possession of them, as well as possession of high-capacity magazines as of Jan. 1, 2021. Critics claimed the measure was not clear enough on how it defined assault weapons.

https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/483352-bill-to-ban-sale-of-assault-style-weapons-dies-in-va-state-senate

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Re: Virginia lawmakers reject Northam's assault-weapons ban, as Dems balk
« Reply #4 on: February 18, 2020, 06:37:52 pm »
So @EdinVA , what's the turnover possible this election gov/state houses?

Do you think they pissed off the hillbillies enough to turn it over?

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Re: Virginia lawmakers reject Northam's assault-weapons ban, as Dems balk
« Reply #6 on: February 18, 2020, 06:49:49 pm »
So @EdinVA , what's the turnover possible this election gov/state houses?

Do you think they pissed off the hillbillies enough to turn it over?
You know @roamer_1 I am not sure... We have been running about 40% voter participation so it depends on the non-leftists if they are pizzed off enough to go vote this time then I think the prospects are good but if the conservatives cannot get past their purity test then it will be the status quo.  Unfortunately, Northam is not up this time but hopefully we can take the senate back.

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Re: Virginia lawmakers reject Northam's assault-weapons ban, as Dems balk
« Reply #7 on: February 18, 2020, 06:52:12 pm »
Unfortunately, Northam is not up this time but hopefully we can take the senate back.

That'd be enough to block.  :beer:

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Re: Virginia lawmakers reject Northam's assault-weapons ban, as Dems balk
« Reply #8 on: February 18, 2020, 06:55:24 pm »
Thanks @mystery-ak   My old tired eyes didn't see the story was already posted.

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Re: Virginia lawmakers reject Northam's assault-weapons ban, as Dems balk
« Reply #9 on: February 18, 2020, 06:58:24 pm »
This is just a reprieve, not a pardon.

The bill will be shelved for study until next year.

IOW, the legislature has reserved the right to revisit this same bill. It isn't over, it just isn't going to happen now.
This means proponents have a year to push their agenda, use the media to try and convince gun owners (and others) they are somehow wrong, and turn the tide of public opinion against a class of inert objects.

The legislature could wait a few months or a year, then one night around 2 am, pass the bill when no one is looking.  Pennsylvania used to do that when it wanted to give itself a raise.

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Re: Virginia lawmakers reject Northam's assault-weapons ban, as Dems balk
« Reply #10 on: February 18, 2020, 07:00:01 pm »
The legislature could wait a few months or a year, then one night around 2 am, pass the bill when no one is looking.  Pennsylvania used to do that when it wanted to give itself a raise.

That would be true, but the bill failed in committee so it never cam to the full senate

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Re: Virginia lawmakers reject Northam's assault-weapons ban, as Dems balk
« Reply #11 on: February 18, 2020, 07:01:05 pm »
The legislature could wait a few months or a year, then one night around 2 am, pass the bill when no one is looking.  Pennsylvania used to do that when it wanted to give itself a raise.
Virginians (conservatives) need to take back at least one of the houses of the Legislature to stop this sort of crap. Preferably both houses, but just one will keep the Governor's pen away.
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